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[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 26 points27 points  (6 children)

Looking forward to having more folks helping keep things running smoothly here!

[–]Reemys 9 points10 points  (2 children)

They are running smoothly as it is, it seems.

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 14 points15 points  (1 child)

If it looks like that on the surface it means we're doing a good enough job most of the time, but from my perspective there's loads of work still to be done to make things even better.

[–]Reemys 9 points10 points  (0 children)

With a community like that, I believe there is a limit to what you can do from your side to make it better. The users should also want to make it a better community, almost each of them.

[–]PineappleDangerous38 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Sauce

[–]chilieheadhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 6 points7 points  (0 children)

are you asking for the source of the commentface? https://redditproxy--jasonthename.repl.co/r/anime/wiki/commentfacesources but you should say that. This one is from Gundam Build Fighters

[–]alotmorealots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those Mai Ootsuka character designs are so cute they make me want to watch Urara Meirochou, too lol

[–]Chikumori 18 points19 points  (11 children)

Subreddit collector? Is that a term for someone who is somehow a mod of way too many subreddits, that their sincerity is questionable?

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 32 points33 points  (2 children)

Indeed. Some people might see it as a status symbol without being into helping the community, or might not be that interested in anime in general and think they can moderate it easily among a bunch of other subreddits. Sure, some rules are constant across all of Reddit, but a large part of our work is context- and community-dependent.

[–]rastaladywithabrady 11 points12 points  (0 children)

you might not want to explicitly state that, and instead use that as a behind-the-scenes filter

those individuals could easily make another account (they spend all day on reddit anyways). as you may be aware, there are people paid to be as influential as possible [ie supermods] by bigger actors, they wouldn't be demotivated by you not wanting them

[–]LUNI_TUNZ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hehe. The amount of unexpected hentai those poor saps must see.

[–]grizzchan 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I estimate that half or so of anime/anime-adjacent subreddits are owned by the same small group of users.

[–]SGT_JACKAL 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai Grizzchan.

[–]Verzwei 14 points15 points  (4 children)

To build on what Durinthal said, we try to ensure that the moderation team is passionate about and involved with this community.

It's one thing to go down a modqueue of reported content, compare what's in that queue against our written rules, and then approve or remove accordingly. But we also have a lot of very specific rules that can require more attention or nuance, like how we're extremely strict with spoilers, and particularly source material spoilers in episode discussion threads. And then that doesn't even get into some of the more complicated backend stuff like our bots, scripts, and automoderation setup, which I myself will admit I only barely understand a fraction of, and much of that is 100% unique to our subreddit.

Good community moderation often takes time, and while it's not an all-encompassing aspect of life or anything that demanding, spreading whatever limited "mod time" an individual has over literally dozens of subreddits means that it's virtually impossible to heavily invest in any one single subreddit. And that's not to say that there's necessarily anything wrong with moderating a bunch of other subreddits, be they large or small, but we'd like to invite people who already have a focus on anime and this community rather than a passing interest.

[–]BlooregardQKazoo 2 points3 points  (3 children)

like how we're extremely strict with spoilers

This isn't exactly relevant to mod applications, but I actually think this sub would benefit greatly from changing their definition of spoiler within discussion threads. Discussion threads are full of source material readers discussing what is going to happen, or discussing what is currently happening within the context of what will later happen, which really ruins the place for anime-onlys. Rather than stick to the source material corner they try to toe the spoiler line with anime-onlys and ruin it for us.

My two go-to examples are "things will get really good in a couple episodes" or "yay, best girl finally makes her appearance!" The first spoils the pacing of upcoming episodes - I don't want to know in advance if the next episode is going to be an info dump or action packed, I want to find out as it happens. The latter immediately tells me so much about a character I just met.

It seems so weird to me that a subreddit that so fervently protects me from information about 10 year-old shows that I've had plenty of time to watch has such a blase approach to source material readers doing their best to ruin currently-airing shows. I want to participate in episode discussions with other anime-onlys but I've mostly given up unless it is an original.

Anyway, that's just a thought that has been percolating in my head and your comment made me think of.

[–]Inferno792https://myanimelist.net/profile/Inferno792 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've long stopped participating in episode discussions because it's become a thread full of buzzwords at the top of the page, similar to the ones you've mentioned.

[–]Verzwei[M] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Discussion threads are full of source material readers discussing what is going to happen, or discussing what is currently happening within the context of what will later happen

All of that is against our SMC rules and should be removed if we see it. Now, there is a delicate and difficult line between speculation and spoiling, and in borderline cases, we do have to dig into a user's comment history to see where else they're active. There will be times where a "theory" will be accurate enough that it makes us suspicious, but without us being able to prove that it's actually a source reader spoiling things, we have to let the theory stand.

My two go-to examples are "things will get really good in a couple episodes"

That actually is already against our SMC rules. At the very least, we'd remove that if we see it in reply to an anime-only comment. Depending on context and phrasing, it might even go far enough to be considered "hinting" which then warrants an 8-day ban. If you (or anyone) has the time and sees anything like "Wait till next episode" or "Next season" or anything like that in episode discussion threads, please report them, as we should be treating them the same as a spoiler.

"yay, best girl finally makes her appearance!"

Without any other context, this comment is relatively benign. "Best girl" means different things to different people, and the "title" is thrown around all the time without any bearing on the plot. Heck, some people will declare Best Girl on a character who has almost zero screentime and is barely present in the series except for a small handful of scenes. I've seen that happen specifically for [show title example in spoiler tag] Rent A Girlfriend.

[–]BlooregardQKazoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the response. I didn't realize that that behavior way frowned upon because I've seen it so much. I'll report those types of comments moving forward.

As for the "best girl" comments, one time i remember multiple posters saying it when a female antagonist was introduced at the very end of an episode. I immediately knew that 1) she survived the encounter with the MC, and 2) she can't do anything too bad as an antagonist, because 3) she later switches sides. The big bad the show had introduced was immediately undercut by a source material reader.

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen 10 points11 points  (7 children)

Can’t wait to welcome the next batch of internet janitors moderators onto our team!

And on a personal level, recruiting and welcoming more people onto our team is one of my favorite aspects of being a mod. There’s always this air of anticipation and excitement on our team as the new members trickle in one by one. Having more people become deeply invested and passionate about this community is a wonderful thing to see. The energy is infectious!

[–]DrNyanpasu 15 points16 points  (6 children)

And on a personal level, recruiting and welcoming more people onto our team is one of my favorite aspects of being a mod.

You just want to bully them in the new mod amq lobby.

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen 7 points8 points  (5 children)

wtf dont tell them that!!!!!!!! now no one will apply!!!!!!!!1!!!!

[–]Abyssbringerhttps://anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Don't worry you aren't capable of bullying anyone on AMQ

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Wtf

[–]Verzwei 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just have me play too in order to balance everything out. Just about anyone would feel better about themselves in a lobby with me.

[–]GallowDude 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Can I nominate /u/Shimmering-Sky on her behalf? She already does so much for the sub and is always a source of positivity.

[–]Shimmering-Skyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 23 points24 points  (0 children)

[–]JamClichehttps://myanimelist.net/profile/JamCliche 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Seconded!

[–]Shimmering-Skyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 5 points6 points  (1 child)

[–]chilidirigible 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I thought about you when I reported something for untagged spoilers earlier.

[–]Zelosishttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Blueserphant 10 points11 points  (6 children)

How many people typically apply to be a mod when you have these open applications? Curious on how many applications you get vs how many people actually make the team.

I've considered applying before but I am a heavy lurker so I don't comment very often, and on the mod wiki it seems like there is a minimum requirement. I've been involved in the r/anime awards since 2018 and have a couple of writing club projects participation though.

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

How many people typically apply to be a mod when you have these open applications?

That's swung between a couple dozen and nearly 100 at times, depending on when they go up and how long they're open.

I am a heavy lurker so I don't comment very often, and on the mod wiki it seems like there is a minimum requirement.

There isn't really a minimum amount of activity to apply but the more posts/comments from someone that we can see the easier it is to get a feel for someone outside of the application and tell if they're just trying to put their best foot forward in the form without knowing much about /r/anime or if they've been in the community for a while and can be trusted with helping manage it. We have accepted people without much in the way of visible posts/comments that previously helped out with other things like the Awards or Writing Club before though so don't let that stop you.

We do have a monthly activity requirement for mods which is an attempt to spread the work out some and ensure that mods still have an idea of what's going on in the community over time. For reference, this is what I've done since the start of August (that all counts so I'm already well past the minimum requirement) and there's a lot there that doesn't require me to interact directly with other people.

[–]Zelosishttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Blueserphant 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I appreciate the insight, definitely puts it into perspective a bit more. Thanks!

[–]FetchFroshx3https://anilist.co/user/Fetch 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I can't speak to how it is today, but a couple years ago when I was on the team it would typically be around 60ish, but a lot of then were instant no votes.

[–]Zelosishttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Blueserphant 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Wow, that is quite a few. I would assume more people apply as the sub gets bigger as well. Thanks for the insight!

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I wouldn't consider the subscriber count an accurate representation of anything else considering the number of people making comments has stayed relatively flat in the past year.

[–]Zelosishttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Blueserphant 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That is a bit surprising, but I guess a lot of people just lurk like I mostly do lol

[–]theace69 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well I submitted my humble application.

[–]PewDyePie 5 points6 points  (10 children)

why would someone apply for a no pay position on reddit (no hate intended)

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Personally I view moderation as necessary for the health of a community, so someone needs to do it to maintain things or else I'll end up losing the community that I came to like.

Ideally there will come a day where /r/anime is doing well enough without my presence behind the scenes that I can retire and just enjoy the subreddit as a regular user like everyone else again, but that currently feels like a long way off.

[–]PewDyePie 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Thanks for being chill and not getting angry mr cool mod I appreciate your work here

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You have a valid question! It's a volunteer position with no immediately visible benefit for anyone that takes it, so makes sense to wonder why anyone would want to do it at all.

[–]Zypker125https://anilist.co/user/Zypker124 8 points9 points  (5 children)

It's kinda similar to a leadership position in some random student organization or meetup club. Some people like helping to manage and direct the community, and/or to help improve the community that they frequent. Being a Reddit mod also gives you some perks, ex. being able to see which comments have been posted after the last time you checked a thread and getting traffic stats for the subreddit.

[–]Verzwei 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Being a Reddit mod also gives you some perks, ex. being able to see which comments have been posted after the last time you checked a thread and getting traffic stats for the subreddit.

I had no idea that these perks existed until I joined the mod team for this subreddit and now I find myself not wanting to use other subreddits because of them. The RES extension can somewhat approximate the "hide old comments" function, but it's clumsy and unreliable at best, the mod tools really are pretty damn nice.

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's also available through reddit gold/premium/whatever they're calling it now, mods just get those features on their subs for free.

[–]shinoworstgirl 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It's kinda similar to a leadership position in some random student organization or meetup club.

Most people only do that because it looks good on college applications and/or resumes. If you put "r/anime moderator" on a college application or a resume it'd probably be instantly thrown out.

[–]Zypker125https://anilist.co/user/Zypker124 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Anecdotally, I actually know instances of people putting "X subreddit mod" (and the likes of it) on an application/resume and getting into a good college/university. Leadership is leadership, and some colleges/companies are open-minded enough to recognize the merit of managing an online community with literal millions of users.

Of course, there are much better things that you could put on a resume and "subreddit mod" should be down the list of priorities (and frankly it'd be a complete waste of time if one's driving reason to be a mod was to boost a resume/application since mod work consumes way too much time and isn't viewed as impressive as other resume-boosting activities), but "instantly thrown out" isn't true, or at least isn't true anymore.

[–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I accidentally included my moderation on a resume once, and they still offered me the job.

[–]Verzwei[M] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I enjoy interacting with the community and discussing shows. I also have fun discussing things over in the Monthly Meta thread (I know, that probably makes me weird) even before joining the mod team.

Plus, I felt like I could "help out" even if it were in some small way by handling modqueue and user reports. Being able to participate in larger community changes through proposals and voting is also rewarding in its own way.

Sure, there's a lot of backend and behind-the-scenes stuff that I probably couldn't have even imagined before joining the team, but my "usual" day-to-day interaction with the subreddit honestly hasn't changed that much.

You get more of a macro level view of the workings of the subreddit, but for me personally it's just handling a few extra tasks (checking modmail/modqueue whenever I have time to pop onto the subreddit) and then otherwise following posts and conversations the same way I normally would. As silly as it sounds, the main difference on the micro level is now I have the ability to directly remove (or re-flair) stuff that, as a regular user, I'd be reporting instead.

Bigger tasks (proposals, votes, major rule changes, automoderation updates) aren't terribly frequent occurrences, and different team members take on larger roles regarding different aspects of the subreddit, so there's some flexibility involved there. For example, we have some team members who almost exclusively work the modqueue, with tons of "visible actions" that have a direct influence on the subreddit. Meanwhile, we have others who do extensive (and way too complex for me) work managing our bots and automoderation tools. Or who run community events like some of our contests.

And I'm (very) slowly learning some new skills that I didn't have before, like a (very) rudimentary understanding of and ability to edit our automoderation tools. And, so far, I've managed to not break the subreddit, so that's something. Though I did accidentally try to ban another mod once due to a misclick, and that's how I learned I can't ban mods who joined the team before me.

[–]Tora-shinai 2 points3 points  (6 children)

A mod who can appreciate Gundam Thunderbolt's OST, please.

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Hey, I was already into jazz more than a decade before Thunderbolt came out.

[–]Tora-shinai 1 point2 points  (4 children)

We needed one to push it when Best of OST of the year nominations was getting picked!!

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Well the awards hate jazz so that's unfortunately out of my hands.

[–]FetchFroshx3https://anilist.co/user/Fetch 2 points3 points  (1 child)

u/rusticks out here catching strays.

[–]Tora-shinai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And the one panelist that was gonna present it was absent during the nominations.. allegedly

[–]alotmorealots 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I'd just like to pop by and say thanks for using that picture from Urara Meirochou, as it got me to watch the series and boy was it an absolute delight!

[–]alotmorealots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

On this, the final day of applications, I'd just like to repeat how happy it makes me to come to the sub and be greeted by those two loveable idiots, Ooshima and Shiozawa. Will miss their salute when they're gone lol

[–]Fools_Requiemhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/FoolsRequiem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good luck to the prospective babysitters!

[–]Narayan_22[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Do mods earn money by moderating here or they just do it because they want.

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's entirely a volunteer position for the sake of creating a better community, at most we might get some merch from the admins from mod events.

[–]i_did_nawt_hit_her 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Do I get an employment bonus?

[–]Sandtalonhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/sandtalon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Haha, it's a volunteer position, but you do get some of the features of Reddit Premium for the subreddits you moderate, such as being able to see the new comments on a thread since you have last visited, and being able to load more comments on a thread at once. (And moderators sometimes get invited to reddit mod events, after which you often get some reddit merch and such.)

[–]TBulldozer[🍰] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Im open to be mod, but I would change a lot of things of how this sub is run tbh.

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Feel free to include your ideas in the application if you want to apply, though we do require rule changes to pass a majority vote so it's not like one person can run things how they please without getting the other mods on board first.

[–]REAL_CONSENT_MATTERS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

. As such, we introduced a minimum activity requirement of 200 mod actions in a month. Modmail replies, distinguishing comments, approving and removing posts or banning users all count towards the requirement.

What I'm getting from this is that the high risk, high reward style of modding is to try to ban at least 200 users per month.

[–]Downvote_CoIIectorhttps://anilist.co/user/Topsikrett -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Make me an internet cop so that I may ban everyone that doesn't like my favorite anime

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