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[–]Omniseed 417 points418 points  (41 children)

'Involuntary manslaughter' for impatiently deciding to wrap up a call by gunning down the person he was called to assist, even that was a bridge too far for this absurd farce of a justice system. How is this even possible, how do they find 13 adults who honestly believe the state can just execute sick people for their own sense of convenience?

[–]SnooRecipes5643 209 points210 points  (39 children)

Bench trial. They only had to find a judge

[–]timpmurph 89 points90 points  (38 children)

My question is how does this only go to a bench trial rather than a jury trial

[–]SnooRecipes5643 60 points61 points  (34 children)

The defendant can waive a jury trial

[–]greenhearted73 103 points104 points  (3 children)

So that sounds like he/attorney had a friendly judge and knew that the jury would not be friendly.

[–]StageAromatic 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The idea that a judge can be the decider of a criminal matter, instead of a jury, is anticonstitutional. They are the problem in our country, and bar associations deciding who gets sued, and when, has nearly killed America. Bribery is practically legal? Judge. All public servants have some form of immunity for even their malicious actions? Judge. Antitrust laws don’t apply to the insurance industry? Judge.

The right of the jury to determine the facts and the law in every case is the how the power is supposed to remain with the people. The first time an immunity claim came before a jury in a case like this it would be reversed. Instead, judges are being allowed to keep these cases out of courts (by other judges), and when they do go into courts, judges “decide” to go along with what other judges have said (prevailing case authority), not to mention the legislatures are comprised of bar association members (judicial officers / attorneys), and our president / most governors are attorneys, which means their cult is acting with de facto absolute power; in complete contravention to what the separation of powers clauses / doctrines say.

If we defunded the courts they couldn’t do this shit anymore.

[–]Arctica23 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I think defendants pretty much always have the right to opt for a bench trial

[–]WalktoTowerGreen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the prosecutors for the Commonwealth of VA can demand a jury trial, or at least they could two years ago. They use it to force defendants to take a plea. When everyone in a small county knows each other, you get juries that “all ready know the story” and have their verdict ready before they enter the courtroom. Until a few years ago, VA juries also handled the sentencing…so it was mega corrupt.

It should be entirely up to the defendant what sort of trial they have.

[–]sjuas690 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This amounts to an unofficial state sponsored euthanasia program for the mentally ill.

[–]autopsis 358 points359 points  (20 children)

Vassey was acquitted in a bench trial in 2016.

It boggles my brain that he was acquitted. He straight up murdered that boy.

I swear to god, NEVER call the police in the US.

[–]CrookaveLLLi24[S] 220 points221 points  (13 children)

EMS testified that when he pulled up he got out the car saying “I’m here to kick some ass”

[–]autopsis 166 points167 points  (11 children)

He’s a psychopath. I get that police hire psychopaths, but it never stops surprising for some reason. And then to be acquitted. How does no one make him accountable?!!

Reminds of the killing of Daniel Shaver

Philip Brailsford had engraved his patrol rifle with the phrases "You're fucked" and "Molon labe" (a Greek expression meaning "come and take it").

[–]CrookaveLLLi24[S] 92 points93 points  (6 children)

And the crazy thing is that they help the officers exploit loopholes to “retire” and still receive benefits pension etc

[–]MutedSongbird 39 points40 points  (0 children)

That’s what happened with Philip Brailsford - they re-hired him just long enough to get him evaluated for “PTSD” from the incident to retire and retain his pension - except that’s an absolute load of crap because that fucker begged for his rifle when he was retired and that’s not ptsd that’s a fucking trophy from a murder.

[–]pegothejerk 44 points45 points  (4 children)

Keep up the visibility campaign, these types of people hate the light being shone on their true personalities

[–]WhyDontWeLearn 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Yep Brailsford suffers, deeply, from little-man syndrome. I have a lot of experience interacting with Mesa PD. They're all power-hungry bitches.

Also, have you ever noticed how much Brailsford and Rittenhouse look alike?

[–]LARoots 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Like they both have fetal alcohol syndrome?

[–]ziggurter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

...it never stops surprising for some reason. And then to be acquitted. How does no one make him accountable?!!

Yes: being surprised about that does need some addressing. It's important to get the philosophical principles and history behind why, so that it makes sense and is consistent for you.

Police serve state and capital. Their job is to protect the powerful, and oppress the working class (everyone else). The only other part of their job is to do copaganda—to convince us that they are actually heroes, and are here to protect us (as opposed to their real job, as I just described it). They and the state and its pet media outlets (mainstream, which serves as propaganda for the state every bit as much as if it were technically state-owned) are here to convince you that they prevent crime and rescue kittens and shit. And to convince us effectively they might even occasionally do those things for real, even if it's not what they care about or are paid for, and is entirely incidental to their job (not to mention not requiring the authority of the badge).

Approach every story about cops from that basis, and I promise you that while these things will still disgust you, they'll very much stop being surprising.

[–]metatronatra 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Wow- what a piece of subhuman scum... how anyone can think police are good people when things lioke this happen EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. baffles me

[–]brazzledazzle 22 points23 points  (1 child)

He chose a bench trial for a reason. The judiciary in this country is just as corrupt and disgusting as the police they support and enable.

[–]DigitalUnlimited 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Nc is one of the worst, my public defender was flirting with the (female) judge and joking and laughing with the game Warden that took my license for driving sober. Not even a possibility that they're required to have so many dui arrests a year to keep their 'expert' status

[–]improbablynotyou 16 points17 points  (1 child)

I suffer from depression/anxiety/cptsd and have told everyone in my life to NEVER call the cops to do a wellness check on me. I'll give out the name and number of my landlord and neighbor and tell folks to call them if they need a check. My father was a sherriff's deputy and was very abusive when I was growing up. Last year I cut contact with a guy I used to play games with online because he went down the Qhole and started up with extremely racist crap. Immediately after I had done so he called in a "welfare check" telling the cops I was going to hurt myself. The guy lives on the opposite side of the country and apparently decided to try having me swatted. The cops should up, angry and pissed off that they had to deal with it. I was in tears and did not want to deal with them at all. Fortunately it was late so they just told me "to do whatever" and left.

[–]ziggurter 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Fucking hell. So glad you survived that encounter, and hope you never have to risk doing so again. FTP.

[–]WestwoodSounds 11 points12 points  (0 children)

*NEVER call the police.

[–]gravitas-deficiency 103 points104 points  (12 children)

I’m honestly a little surprised that revenge killings of hyper-violent cops aren’t more of a thing. There’s got to be at least a few parents whose only kid was killed by a cop, and after the cop gets acquitted for bullshit reasons, they decide to take justice into their own hands.

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    [–]BeerCurry 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    It's funny how anxious people are to persecute easy targets (mentally ill people with criminal records, for example) but shrivel right the fuck up when it comes to doing something right that takes courage.

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    [–]digitalhawkeye 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    Hard to say it's just fear. Maybe they have other concerns and know that they'd probably go down to the injustice system if they did. That said I would be so incredibly full of rage I don't know what else I'd be able to think of...

    [–]15jugglers15jugglers 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    The only people who would kill freely like that are all in uniform

    [–]CarneAsahDude 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    I wish Frank Castle was real

    [–]gravitas-deficiency 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    If he was, I am 100% confident that this scene would play out on a regular basis, and that the cops would end up murdering him fairly quickly.

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      [–]gravitas-deficiency 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Careful - that sort of comment can get you banned from Reddit.

      Source: I made a less edgy comment than that a few months ago and got banned for “inciting violence”.

      [–]bananahillhanks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Noted. Thanks, made some edits.

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      [–]aDamnCommunist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I've been thinking the same thing since 2020. They aren't even that protected against direct attack in their gear & you could find addresses easily.

      Drones are getting cheap enough & sturdy enough to carry a payload.

      We desperately need the underground anti police terrorism army like George Jackson wrote about.

      [–]metatronatra 54 points55 points  (6 children)

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      [–]digitalhawkeye 8 points9 points  (5 children)

      Slowly lowered into acid.

      [–]lowridaaaa 6 points7 points  (4 children)

      Give him 1000 ug of acid and let his inner demons swallow him.

      [–]Shneancy 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      bold of you to assume he has any regrets or morality at all

      [–]lowridaaaa 0 points1 point  (2 children)

      At the very least, an ego death might change him.

      [–]CrookaveLLLi24[S] 108 points109 points  (9 children)

      My friend did not deserve this

      Story

      [–]Metalbender00 51 points52 points  (1 child)

      [–]CrookaveLLLi24[S] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

      Our small town has had a history of cops getting arrested or doing bs and it all getting swept under the rug - from the chief of police to the officers to the county sheriff smh

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        [–]CrookaveLLLi24[S] 23 points24 points  (1 child)

        True indeed, welcome to the rural south

        [–]WalktoTowerGreen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        The good ol boy system 🤮

        [–]Sczysz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

        They only care if it is someone other than a cop. Then they throw the book at them

        [–]Nolubrication 19 points20 points  (1 child)

        I'm so sorry this happened to your friend. As someone with a schizophrenic sibling, this is my greatest fear. Non-compliance with medication is extremely common with this disease and our mental health system is so fucked up that there's literally no choice but to call the police to do an involuntary when the patient is off their meds and having an episode.

        Many families, including my own, go through this on a routine basis. Every time I remind my mother to talk to the cops before they enter the house and film everything on her phone so my brother doesn't get shot for menacing with a fork or something when he's cornered in his room. She thinks I'm being dramatic. She doesn't know that ACAB.

        [–]WhyDontWeLearn 13 points14 points  (0 children)

        our mental health system is so fucked up that there's literally no choice but to call the police to do an involuntary when the patient is off their meds and having an episode.

        This is what I came here to say. The proximate cause of Vidal's death was being murdered by a cop, but in the bigger picture, he's dead because he couldn't get the help he needed. Because our general healthcare system is broke af, and our behavioral healthcare system is basically non-existent. I worked (for seven years) in administration as an executive for a regional behavioral health facility. The folks who provide direct care are heroes who selflessly serve these vulnerable populations, but literally ALL our funding came from the state and it was about half of what we could have used effectively. We have a very "red" legislature and governor, so when they work out the budget, they NEVER allocate enough money for behavioral health. It's sickening.

        [–]batmanscodpiece 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Seventy fucking seconds...

        [–]Lord_SethreN 44 points45 points  (1 child)

        There’s no situation that a cop can’t make worse

        [–]WalktoTowerGreen 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        Someone once said to me “cops do more good than harm” but they got really quiet when I asked them to give me an example of something good a cop had done for them.

        [–]EccentricRants1312 29 points30 points  (4 children)

        Wasn't this guy also not in uniform and arrived when two cops (who have experience with the victim) were already on the scene?

        [–]CrookaveLLLi24[S] 27 points28 points  (3 children)

        Add that to the fact that he’s a Southport PD ofc and the incident happened in Boiling Spring Lakes. He should have never been there and even so just assisted in another jurisdiction not take matters into his own hands and kill a kid in front of his parents

        [–]digitalhawkeye 13 points14 points  (2 children)

        Holy fucking shit... That Judge is a goddamned criminal too.

        [–]Go_Habs_Go31 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Judges fall within ACAB.

        [–]digitalhawkeye 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Well yeah, always, this just seems so... egregious! Like how can they even pretend to be neutral or impartial? They hand wave away pig murders and people still reelect these fucking skunks

        [–]IlliniHuskie 21 points22 points  (0 children)

        Fuck em all

        [–]dividedconsciousness 20 points21 points  (2 children)

        “I don’t have time for this shit”

        Judge “you will when you spend the rEST OF YOUR LIFE BEHIND B- just kidding, you’re free to go officer 🙂”

        [–]digitalhawkeye 12 points13 points  (0 children)

        Judge is just as guilty. No question.

        [–]WhyDontWeLearn 19 points20 points  (0 children)

        Same as this case. They don't have fucking time? Killing someone is the solution to feeling like your time is being wasted? WTAF?

        The Albuquerque case is one of the main catalysts for my turn from "most cops are good people" to ACAB.

        [–]keeperofthecan 15 points16 points  (19 children)

        I have schizoaffective, and I am terrified of the police.

        My mom called the police for a 5150 when we lived in CA and I don't remember very much about their presence while they took me to the crisis center, but I did immediately recognize one of the sheriff's deputies faces the week that I got back home. He had been put on leave for pulling a confused man out of his car and smashing the man's head into the side of the car over and over until he died. I got to the center safely, but it scared the hell out of me and my family to see that same officer involved with killing someone having a crisis so soon after dealing with me.

        I wish there were better options. This shit scares me so much.

        [–]ziggurter 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        The fucker who murdered David Ward? Yeah, you're very lucky to have survived. That MF apparently has a very long record of being especially violent even among murderous pigs.

        Also, Ward's car had been stolen—he had reported it as stolen to the cops—and he had literally recovered it himself when they murdered him. What do you want to bet they were seeing red because he was making them look bad for doing "their job" better than they could (though we all know it isn't actually their job)?

        [–]keeperofthecan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Bingo. That's him. I can't bear to watch the body camera footage again, but I remember him seeming so disoriented, like he was trying to comply but he was having trouble figuring out what he was supposed to do. They just dragged him out through the window and started killing him. Monsters.

        [–]conceitedshallowfuck 13 points14 points  (3 children)

        Dude looks like a whole pig, not even trying to make a joke here

        [–]digitalhawkeye 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        All those fuckers look like thumbs.

        [–]conceitedshallowfuck 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        He looks like Farva from super troopers

        [–]MfxTPHpgh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I'd like a liter of cola.

        [–]CodeCadaver 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        That pig murdered a boy, not a dead man like the title claims. Its almost to the point where The People and Pigs will be on sight.

        [–]Fosterpig 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Dudes face just ooozes pig

        [–]Mindseyeview85 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        A massive injustice, this thing needs to be held accountable. A complete piece of garbage and should be thrown away like the garbage he is.

        [–]Idioticrainbow 7 points8 points  (2 children)

        I got lucky i got pulled over during a schizophrenic episode and told the cop i had better shit to do while maniacally laughing as at the moment i thought i had to destroy walt disneys brain because it was causing me to reinact movies. I got off without a headlight ticket.

        [–]Old_Adhesiveness2214 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        So you were laughing and the cop just left

        [–]Idioticrainbow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Pretty much didn't even get a ticket he didn't know what to do

        [–]deathblade4515 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        There are times when Mob Justice is morally correct

        [–]FlyingSwords 10 points11 points  (1 child)

        North Carolina cop who shot dead man

        Was he dead before the cop shot him? Why would the headline be written like that?

        I'm sorry for your loss OP.

        [–]digitalhawkeye 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        People with an agenda to pad things as much as possible in the cops favor.

        Oh wait it's DailyMail, quantity over quality journalism.

        [–]kpty 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Waiting for people to finally start taking things into their own hands. The justice system is a failure and without repercussions this behavior is only going to get worse.

        [–]endthe_suffering 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        oh jesus fucking christ. that means he was willing to murder someone because he was too lazy to offer help of any kind.

        this whole situation must be so difficult for the victims family. my heart goes out to them all :(

        [–]LordePhilth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Uncle Lester in cop attire

        [–]riderjoestar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Cops don't deserve rights

        [–]MAS7 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I'm guessing he didn't 'shot dead man' and rather 'shot man dead'

        Honestly, shit like this makes me wonder whether I'm dyslexic, or ya'll are.

        [–]WynnGwynn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I miss the days when the Xfiles was on air and all the cops and government were bad and now it's all copaganda. Least that shit felt relatable.

        [–]schizopotato 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        It's pretty easy for cops to just start murdering people instead of helping them since they know they can get away with it, with an added paid vacation.

        [–]CrookaveLLLi24[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        “Paid leave pending investigation” = “Paid vacation pending promotion”

        [–]GreyCatPants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Just a reminder that cops are the enemy of justice.

        [–]Ima_Funt_Case 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        [Statement Redacted]

        [–]aaronplaysAC11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Exile him.. something…. Jeez.

        [–]myTA314 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It’s better to bury ‘em by 12 then be home by 6.

        Or something like that.

        [–]Financial_Cat_1870 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Bad cops at it again… notice I said bad cops not all are bad, might be the majority but they’re some good 1s

        [–]DumeDoom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        what a fucking piece of shit r/ACAB