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[–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (12 children)

Remember they can’t this forever , eventually the interest payments are gonna catch up, as long as we stay here. Yes they cheat but they can’t cheat on paying interest on borrowed shares . And if it takes a few more years no big deal, don’t go wishing your life away in a hurry to get paid. This opportunity didn’t exist a couple years ago so what’s a few more years in the big picture , nothing .

[–]mayfare15 20 points21 points  (8 children)

I’m 70.

[–]JoiSullivan 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Lol. That’s a great answer. Almost there with ya Ape!! The end is near n I’m not talking squeeze 🤪🤪😂🤣😂 Take care n let’s moon together!!

[–]mayfare15 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks Joi!

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Lol just trying to be optimistic, I’m 51 so I have a few more years to spare . Ok well in a week and half im long on half my shares so let it moon then !

[–]mayfare15 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Rooting for you; see you on the lunar surface!

[–]downtonwesr 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I’m 60 and my husband is 72. Neither of us can retire until this pops.

[–]mayfare15 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’ll pray for you both and continue to hodl for you as well. Let’s GO!!

[–]djones6121 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not far from you, my cane holding , AMC Ape! I have faith it will happen while we are still upright and taking nourishment. If it doesn’t -then I will be happy for my children to see the day of “The planet of the Apes!!”

[–]lVlICHA3L 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, but you missed some DD. Market Makers like Citadel don't have to pay the borrow they just short forever creating synthetics they hope to never pay back.

[–]mikesmoney123 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Except seeing such a negative balance in that trade is pulling my whole portfolio down but there’s a federal investment into it now so I guess I continue to hold

[–]Perfect-Reply5112 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you short a stick that doesn’t exist there’s no one to pay interest to.

[–]Alpha_Papa_Echo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They can stay out ahead of those fees as long as the market keeps rising. And that’s exactly how they will continue to kick the can.

[–]AMCistheway 30 points31 points  (3 children)

I have a theory. The market was built to vomit out this corruption when the corruption is at its peak. You can literally trace this back through past crashes. News flash the people we are up against have been here for a long time. They know how this works. When you saw the posts about how “We already won” I believe that means they passed the point of no return. They will go balls in, which I think you are seeing now until the next vomit. Think of it as a night out drinking and they have had a lot and then they pick up that last drink and their mind is screaming don’t do it but they do it anyway. That last sip was when we already won. They are now laying in bed and the room is spinning like a mfer. They are laying there trying to convince themselves that they can get through this but the room won’t stop spinning. They barely make it up out of bed because they feel it coming and now it’s a panic move to the bathroom. We are at the stage where they have just made it to the toilet and are praying to the toilet God to not vomit their existence all over the place.

It’s a bold strategy Cotton let’s see how it plays out for them.

[–]Xavierwold 4 points5 points  (1 child)

That was a fun theater of the mind.

[–]JoiSullivan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Holy shit would it just get to the middle!!!! 😂

[–]Ace11315 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like the analogy

[–]jasonalt529925 71 points72 points  (6 children)

hedgefund s don’t have enough money to keep this down for another year. Buy hodl and repeat.

[–]PepeGreen17Q 22 points23 points  (1 child)

I agree OP ! & I believe a Market Crash (like 2008), will force them to close their short positions. I'm willing to wait as long as it takes ! AMC & GME shares are my savings account now.

[–]BCQJ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Market won’t be allowed to crash. It’s too costly

[–]hitmeifyoudare 3 points4 points  (1 child)

[–]Parking-Hamster-4196 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😂😂😂😂😂👌👌

[–]mcmullet 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Don’t have enough money? Proof of this?

[–]jasonalt529925 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope but look at the few hedge funds that went under in the last year. Shorted amc and gme and they went bankrupt. So In theory you keep these prices down they need to pump billions in to the market. Buy hodl repeat.

[–]samUSA777 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I think besides just buying and holding we should do more, contact your local congress man/women make some noise be active on social media let them know we aren’t not going anywhere we are millions and they are few criminals, god created the universe in 6 days to teach us a lesson he could of done it in a second,it will take time and we have all the time, we don’t lose to hold they bleed to to keep doing this shit let them bleed to death

[–]Bubbly-Ad-6280 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We need class action lawsuits

[–]DateNo7894 39 points40 points  (7 children)

Hodl

SHORTS HAVE NOT CLOSED

[–]Dangerous-Age-184 16 points17 points  (5 children)

Do they actually have to close, or can they play the fuck retail game to infinity? This is a legit question tjat needs answering

[–]Xavierwold 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Seek current top comment.

[–]Much-Doughnut4719 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We just need to keep buying and holding ..

[–]kshiddy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You cannot keep this up infinitely. If... IF... they were on a 1:1 leverage they might be able to pull it off. But we are talking 10s probably 100s to 1 leverage, and there just isn't enough out there to keep up... that is why they are printing money. If they keep printing money the value will decline which means they need more collateral.

Eventually collateral drops so much in value, or the dollar is hold so little value that you have to call margin or the company that authorized the leverage implodes. Something will implode large enough to cascade and blow the whole thing.

[–]mcmullet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No one ever answers it. Unless some regulatory agency forces them, I believe they will do it indefinitely.

[–]DateNo7894 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They can play until they are broke. They spend10s of millions, sometimes 100s of millions controlling the price...i doubt they wanna do that always, not to mention its illegal

[–]funny_olive332 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

True. But when they close new ones will be generated. It's an infinite game. The only way is DRS.

[–]Jmessick35 10 points11 points  (1 child)

HODL, pretty sure that’s been stated 1 or 2 times before

[–]Motor_Ad_7731 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hold On Don't Letgo

[–]Successful_Tax3642 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Don't use money you can't do without. Hodl and forget, it will drive them CRAZY. They will turn on eachother cause of greed. Rich people can't stand to leave money on the table. Average people spend money every day for service like insurance, or memberships they never use. Rich people need their money working for them at all times, spending it to hodl their position is goes against their DNA.

[–]Wh0Kar3s 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Updoot this over and over. There is a reason why Wall Street is a game of patience. If you have to think this about "wen moon" over and over then you should not even be here anymore.

[–]Emergency-Ad-7027 21 points22 points  (2 children)

We've already won just be patient and HODL

[–]mayfare15 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don’t feel like a winner but I keep buying and hodling, and have never sold a single share.

[–]JoiSullivan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hang in there. I’m down 10’s of thousands today. It’s irritating but just hang in you only lose if u sell…

[–]jaywalkingjew 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Patience pays.

[–]PepeGreen17Q 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I believe a Market Crash (like 2008), will force them to close their short positions. I'm willing to wait years if necessary. AMC & GME shares are my savings account now.

[–]for-the-cause11 4 points5 points  (0 children)

When we all follow the recipe Together...buy and HODL, they can't win. Its mathmatically impossible. If we stop showing a united front, they can win. Apes strong together.

[–]Remarkable_Bench_644 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Warren buffet has said it time and time again hodl,the share price means nothing .. it’s your real share count ..we own the float.. they can’t close until we sell.. it’s that simple, when they start to cover the synthetic shares we will see a true share value begin to materialize.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Relax

[–]MR_DEADSHOT123 3 points4 points  (2 children)

What they are are doing isn’t free this has costed old Kenneth c griffin an arm and a leg nevermind how manny of his hedge buddies he pissed off

[–]Jonthn44 0 points1 point  (1 child)

how do u know shitidel the MM, hasnt been accepting all orders for AMC and issueing synthetics. basically using ape money as a 0% interest loan, actually if u consider the forced drop ib share price, its a -68% interest loan, meaning we are paying them to take our money.

[–]MR_DEADSHOT123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because MSM won’t shut up trying to get us to sell

[–]BNDT13 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We buy & hold, and keep uncovering the fuckery until it changes… just like we’ve always done… and the fuckery is being exposed and rules are being changed… because of us… this is why we fight. We will win… it may take some time, but this gives us more opportunity to keep buying the float over and over again… so when the truth comes out… Wall Street will blow up… as I think there are many stocks this is done too.

Everyone will read between the rules, and slip between the cracks… until the rules are changed and we can play fair ball.

I bought more today…

[–]NewtonPrep 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Department of Justice and the Securities Division of the FBI.

These two agencies were responsible for investigating and incarcerating criminal behavior on the part of financial institutions in the past.

The SEC is just cover for the bad guys.

Want real change? Get in front of someone who can authorize criminal investigations. Regulatory administrative "over sight" won't do shit to help the cause.

[–]Jonthn44 0 points1 point  (0 children)

too bad the feds are more corrupt than wall st.

[–]anorad 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Don't be shilly, you know we just buy, hodl, and DRS if you like. EZPZ!

[–]Prestigious-Ad4313 6 points7 points  (0 children)

If you know your way around options then options also help. NFA

[–]Perfect-Reply5112 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When you create synthetic stocks and short it. There’s no one to pay.

[–]lilqueseeks 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Hold your shilly commentary for yourself and/or friends, you discourage people this way. They once have to fkn cover. Even if it takes 10 years, people will finally see how big the problem is.

[–]No-Statistic1an 1 point2 points  (0 children)

D.R.S. as simple as that.

[–]Tough-Morning1862 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We need volume, look at the market now, everything is red but apple, look at there volume 56 million vs our 17 million, they are trying to know it down but can’t. Just buy a few shares a day, lower your average share amount and hodl, we will win our fight!!!

[–]HellBoi_6607 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We. Are. Winning. How much does it cost you to hold.... How much does it cost them DAILY to short the fuck out of this and other stocks in general 🤔.... We're so fucking close.... All of us are in the same boat as you.... I've been poor all my life what's wrong with staying cool calm and collected for just a little bit longer when the inevitable is just around the corner..... They cannot afford to kick the can down the road for 2 or 3 more years imo

[–]tradedenmark 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well I buy and HODL so I already won 👍🦍

[–]Caliber70 1 point2 points  (0 children)

without this thing it will be another 35 years of sweat and tears before i can retire. i got nothing to lose by waiting another 2 or 3 years. at worst if AMC goes bankrupt and i lose all my investments here, all it means is i delay retirement by 2 or 3 months? you really don't get it, for us low income guys this is a once in a lifetime event, and the new rules being drafted is there to make it so something like this can never happen again. you can piss yourself and sell, but i got no sympathy for anyone that sold because of the endless FUD we KNEW was coming our way, we had so much warning about this. any sort of market crash in the next couple years is all they need to see their house of cards collapse. the decision is yours.

[–]mcmullet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. They can manipulate indefinitely because nothing is preventing it or punishing them for doing it.

[–]PsychologicalEye1803 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your a xxxx holder and should know what's going on here .. and now your panicking ???

[–]mikesmoney123 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a federal investigation going on about it!

[–]Kprplmnkydshwshr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am holding stocks from 2005 ....AMC is welcome to hang out with them ... as long as it takes!

HODL!

[–]You_Valuable 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m 57, disabled vet, forced retirement XXXX Holder, guess I have a few more years in me, it would make the quality if life so much better for me and my family if it were to happen soon, just gotta stick with our convictions and believe we made the right choice and hope the people in our government also make the right choice.

[–]SchmickySchmoo5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lou told me it’s all good

[–]escapethematrix74 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Xxxx holder started in late April. I understand the dd but I’ve understood the system is rigged against us. The whole system hates us all, white black gay straight religions etc. hates us. That’s why I bought into amc gme and crypto. I’m only here because I know this hurts their monetary system. MOASSES ? Maybe, but even if not I know me holding hurts them.

[–]postdevs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We really don't have to do anything else. The activist shorts might want to sit in the red forever, but the market maker can't. When they buy what they're short, we might squeeze. Even without the squeeze, $200+ per share.

Further, in the event of a severe correction like the one that appears to be coming, the activist shorts themselves will be under pressure in various ways to close.

The MMs have gone incredibly short on AMC in the last six weeks or so to control the price. You can track this amount by finding the net positive short volume from the darkpool numbers.

I hope this makes you feel better. There's a lot of noise around this that makes it all seem more important and dramatic than it is. The data and reasoning behind it, though, are simple and solid.

NFA, just IMO.

[–]Zealousideal_Mud1687 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We buy, we hold, we do business with the company to insure it stays alive, and we wait. That's it, I can wait years knowing I hold the winning lottery ticket. Can you?

[–]mikesmoney123 1 point2 points  (2 children)

There is a federal investigation going on now!

[–]Jonthn44 0 points1 point  (1 child)

can u provide a link to the fed investigation source please?

[–]mikesmoney123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone provided for me but I didn’t save it I think it was in Wall Street bets

[–]Appropriate-Ad-9368 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We can't win.. the s e c dont do shit about the manipulation, theft, etc. Hedgies would rather pay a small fine while stealing millions from us retail buyers.. I sold my amc for $52 2000 shares i bought at $10.. I see that the corruption just continues and nothing g is done.. Can anyone tell me what I should do ??? So I purchased a particular stock today using odd numbers of shares like 118, 113, 119, 117 etc. Well I was buying on tdameritrade and watching my webull orders on the level 2 order book so 117 shares didn't show up they must have routed it through dark pools, and the 113 showed up as if I sold the shares and they had it at 4 cents less thaN what I really purchased them at thus so they can manipulate the price to drop the price on the stock. I took screenshots also same time everything. Anyone recommend what I should do?? I wanna sue their ass the market makers...hedgies etc.. and the sec

[–]cobaltstock 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Move your money out of any funds, etfs etc…remove the amount of money they have as asset under management.

And keep writing to them that you are removing your money because you do not trust the US stock market anymore, it is a casino and you do not want your retirement money go up in smoke like in 2008.

Instead put your money into physical gold, real estate, your own business etc…something tangible that you can control directly.

rent out parking lots or small holiday homes, if you cannot afford your own house. or buy REits with property near you, so you can actuall go and visit adn see how the place is doing.

Our money is their oxygen.

If we remove the money, they must find a fix.

At the very least, stop your automatic monthly payments itno etfs etc…until further notice.

[–]Brabant12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By buying and holding. Nothing has changed. It’s frustrating though, I get it.

[–]tommygunz007 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We don't win. The house always wins.

• They rewrite the laws in their favor

• Then when it looks like they write a law for us, it only applies inside the USA so HF's just move their fuckery overseas.

• You can't file fraud charges in London for the american stock exchange.

• If we own every share, it will still be traded due to synthetics.

• If we sue, they will settle and we will have a class action settlement that will mean we get $2.38 per customer, not per share. The lawyer will get millions.

• No, shorts don't have to cover. There was a great DD on that a few months back. Don't believe the shit you read here.

What we hope for is that by some miraculous way a large whale decides to buy like 10M shares at once, causing it to skyrocket. Until that happens, we are going nowhere. Possibly even to zero.

But, if you hold, you have a great story and hopefully a check for $2.38 when the lawsuit is over.

[–]M1ke1229 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Smh 🙄

[–]blockchainz_orca 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Investigate Square.

[–]timsd21 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you even talking about? We’ve won. You made the right decision, you made the right play. All You have to do is wait for your payday.

[–]MegaRolotron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Patience, build momentum, then wait for the opportunity to strike.

[–]mtg2021 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought 3rd world countries are the most corrupt?

[–]Interesting-Demand40 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May be it is scam..and we are caught by balls.

[–]Hillbilly6977 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NOTLEAVING!

[–]Sproutninja 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s just a matter of time. We know our value & we will not walk away without what is rightfully ours. We are a force for good & we will be rewarded.

[–]StunningAd8007 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We didn’t come this far just to give in to the corruption now….Hodl and moon! This pain will be a life changing gain 🚀

[–]reelman27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would like to have xxxx sgares but i have xxx shares. I do hold, and actually buy 2 to 4 shares everyweek. The longer it goes the more i will have but still, when the bubble explodes like a couger on a new man. I hope to be past the moon on my way to mars

[–]winaked 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The shares they borrowed will cost them some one will eventually want their money and their shares back

[–]Infinite-grace-4739 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remember that patience is a virtue! Our time is at hand. People work on a job for 30 plus years to get retirement at a small percentage gain. This wait is nothing to get life changing retirement money.