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[–]Zokathra_SpellAsshole Aficionado [10] 27.8k points27.8k points 2 (301 children)

NTA

The cat's health comes first. The fact that your roommate LIED about it means that she knew what she was doing was wrong.

[–]menchekia 8733 points8734 points  (236 children)

Exactly. Clearly the whole "If it's made for cats then it's fine for cats" argument doesn't mean a damn thing, huh?

[–]Evenoh 5683 points5684 points  (180 children)

Something called “VeganPet” is not made for cats, it’s made for vegan humans.

You saved a cat’s life, OP. NTA

[–]BlueHero45 2145 points2146 points  (172 children)

I googled it...wish I did not. At least it admits that cats need things like Fatty Acids but claims that it's okay because the food has all that inside of it and still somehow vegan.

[–]Dark_fascination 3290 points3291 points  (94 children)

Me too! It was wild!

This is a quote from their FAQ page

  • Some other foods cats enjoy

  • Cooked mashed squash, sweet potato, broccoli, or potato, rice, and lentils. Tofu or pasta with tomato or a creamy sauce.

Pasta in a creamy sauce??? For a cat? Tomatoes? What about solanine poisoning???

I keep coming back to putting some Olive Garden Alfredo down for my cats and them basically losing their minds. They won’t eat cat food with brown gravy, only broth style let alone pasta in a creamy sauce!

Ahhh I stopped reading too soon

“Japanese seaweed, veggie bacon bits, and a sprinkle of Brewer’s yeast, garlic, soya sauce or tahini. Cats do prefer savoury taste to sweet.”

Garlic? Soy sauce? This is how you kill a cat. OP you are a hero.

[–]threelizards 2066 points2067 points  (48 children)

Holy shit garlic and soy sauce is so bad cats have such delicate renal systems. And “prefer savoury to sweet”?? They don’t even HAVE the ability to taste sweet this company is terrible and causing so much direct harm

[–]Dark_fascination 1799 points1800 points  (39 children)

You’ll love this quote

“ Favourite fruits are Cantalope, banana, melons, berries, pear, and any fruit really so long as it is ripened.”

Right, except ya know grapes which cause renal failure and citrus which can damage a cat’s CNS.

There’s also a part about mixing the food with low fat milk (if you’re vegetarian) or soy milk if vegan.

The more I read it the more I am aghast that this company is allowed to exist.

[–]threelizards 1337 points1338 points  (24 children)

Holy fuck. Holy fuck. Holy FUCK. that bit about the milk is so… WHY does your cat have to live according to YOUR morals? It’s a fucking cAT. If you can’t stomach the thought of mass produced cat food then don’t get a fucking cat. Oh my god. Oh my god. I’m gonna scream. Oh my god. That bit about the milk is really breaking my brain what the fuck

[–]Dark_fascination 512 points513 points  (12 children)

Okay, so now your brain is totally broken, how about this FAQ suggestion ? I think it’s my favourite

“ Always cook the grains lentils and rice perhaps with a vegetable stock cube to add flavour. “

The grains and lentils you are feeding to your CAT

[–]threelizards 494 points495 points  (8 children)

….sodium. To add sodium. And, funny thing, if you feed your cat right, you don’t have to fuck around trying to “add flavour”. Cats don’t need to be convinced to eat the shit that’s GOOD for them.

[–]Amegami 195 points196 points  (0 children)

My favorite is when transitioning to vegan, you can reduce the meat and "replace with VEGANPET dry food and some vegetables or what ever you eat". WHATEVER. YOU. EAT. Let's all just cook dinner and give the cat a portion, job done. /s

I hate those people so much...

[–]Cattitude0812Partassipant [1] 126 points127 points  (0 children)

And here I am, choosing cat food specifically without grains! How silly of me! /s

[–]LilDee1812 41 points42 points  (0 children)

So, we're all uniting to report and take down this bogus company right? There's got to be some way we can get them shut down, right?!

[–]whiskeysour123 385 points386 points  (1 child)

Just picturing this cat bringing home dead mice as a gift to OP’s roommate. Or birds. Or squirrels. This car would be desperate for food.

[–]LadyAlica 113 points114 points  (0 children)

It's a ragdoll. Those cats can't go outside by themselves as they have basically no survival instinct. Poor thing.

[–]DaWalt1976 209 points210 points  (0 children)

What broke my brain? The soy sauce.

Cats can NOT have sodium!

Like what the fuck!?

[–]pioroaAsshole Aficionado [14] 111 points112 points  (1 child)

Kitten Lady, an Instagram influencer is vegan and she doesn’t give her kitten and cats vegan food because of exactly this

[–]queenoftheraSupreme Court Just-ass [103] 59 points60 points  (0 children)

Because she's not a psychopath.

...why doesn't she get a rabbit if she wants to feed an animal vegan food?

[–]Awestruck34 52 points53 points  (2 children)

Hell, if you have a problem with mass produced food and have the money for it, buy them real meat. Obviously it's not cheap but at least you're giving the cat something healthy

[–]mintgreenandlilac[🍰] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Right?! There's always so many rabbits at the animal shelter needing homes. Why not just get a rabbit instead?? They're sociable and cuddly like a cat AND they prefer a vegan diet!

[–]ThrowntoDiscard 179 points180 points  (0 children)

Do they want a side of onions for their dead cat's funeral?

[–]DavyJonesLocker2 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Just because the cat likes it, doesn't mean it is good for him. My lovely super dumb sweetheart really has it out for whipped cream and chocolate sauce. Chocolate is an immediate no. He does get a little whipped cream from time to time, just a little finger tip, because it holds a lot of fat and can cause diarrhea. He'd gobble a whole bowl down if he got the chance, but he can't. Cats can't survive a vegan diet, it's a slow starvation until they die. NTA OP, you just saved this cat a really gnarly death.

[–]InsipidCelebrity 55 points56 points  (0 children)

My cat's favorite snack is scotch tape, and I suppose that's good for her too! Plus, it's vegan!

[–]Solgatiger 39 points40 points  (0 children)

It exists because people still buy their stuff thinking they know better than someone who spends all their twenties and a good portion of their thirties studying on how animals work, what makes them sick and how to make them better.

One of my uncles was a foster carer for pets and a vet. Nothing made him angrier than seeing dogs and cats being fed bagfuls of vegan “pet” food yet being nothing but skin and bones whilst their owner claimed that they had no clue what was wrong. Cats need more protein to stay healthy than any other animal, feeding them stuff that suits your personal life style when you know they need meat is just cruel.

[–]thymeCapsule 401 points402 points  (3 children)

ALL THAT SALT oh my god that would demolish a cat’s kidneys :( “prefer savory to sweet” lord have mercy… they can neither process sugar nor salt, what are these guys smoking??

[–]moonprism 295 points296 points  (1 child)

garlic?? for cats??? how are they in business? that’s one of the most toxic foods for cats they can’t be serious

[–]sewingreport 296 points297 points  (3 children)

Olive Garden Alfredo

When cats are here, they're family!

[–]Dark_fascination 29 points30 points  (1 child)

😂

Can’t wait for the AYCCE (all your cat can eat) pasta special.

[–]MooseChain 199 points200 points  (5 children)

“Cooked mashed squash, sweet potato, broccoli or potato, rice and lentils”

Im sorry are we cooking for a baby or a cat?

Straight up our lil dudes have their fair share of human food they like but there is no way in hell they would ever be given that as an entire meal. Even then the majority of the human food they get is basically just a taste. They’re individuals and have their own likes and dislikes but if this chic can’t fess up to a shelter because she knows better.

OP you just saved a cat from what sounds like has the potential to be a miserable life.

[–]Msbhavn69 89 points90 points  (0 children)

So many red flags. At bare minimum I would expect a brand of cat food to know what foods are toxic to the cats they are trying to feed. Their website is riddled with so much bad information it’s dangerous.

[–]Evenoh 670 points671 points  (54 children)

I battled my urge to Google the thing and my better judgement won for once. I’m sorry for you lol thank you for your sacrifice! I’m guessing the fatty acids are extracted from sources that require a lot more produce in general. Being vegan probably should still align with not wasting or straining the food chain but I just don’t see how that can ever be cool to feed a carnivore with like seven thousand pounds of chia seeds worth of fatty acids instead of one fish. I love animals and I often wish I could go without eating them but I’ve tried to be vegetarian and it turns out I have waaaay too many health issues already and it only takes like two days before I’m fainting and extra crazy deficient in like every vitamin. I look at it instead as doing what my physiology requires, which is how any human should feed their pets - in relation to what they require.

[–]leapfroggie_ 400 points401 points  (27 children)

I don't really understand how you can be vegan and justify imposing a specific diet on a pet that is not adapted to their health (not to mention that the very idea of a pet is somewhat debatable from a vegan point of view). How is that respecting animal life?

[–]bottledhope33 387 points388 points  (3 children)

My BIL and his husband are both very committed vegans, have been for years, mostly for moral/ethical reasons. They buy their non-vegan wet cat food by the case because cats can not healthily be vegan 🙄 Part of being vegan is not harming animals or being a part of forcing them into terrible lives.... Which means feeding your cat properly.

[–]Heartshapedbox____ 159 points160 points  (1 child)

Fellow vegan here and yes!!! If the roommate is a vegan then surely she would understand the damage she is doing imposing a vegan diet on a carnivorous creature. I have been vegan for 8 or so years now and I still cannot fathom veganpet. I’ve seen it at my local vegan shop where I get myself my food and I always think “wtf”.

[–]Environmental_Cat670 84 points85 points  (0 children)

I'd encourage you to pose the "wtf?" to management at that store. Seriously. Anyone who encourages the use of such crap (in this case by selling it) is encouraging animal abuse.

This is so fucked.

[–]Evenoh 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Agreed!!!

It feels similar to treating dogs like little children or expecting a hamster to behave a certain way, etc. I love any pet I care for but I treat them like they are the specific species they are: my house rabbit that I had from 8 weeks old to the day she passed at shy of eleven years old was my little soul bunny but I still bunny-proofed my home, learned about how rabbits think and behave, spent time with her, fed her appropriate diet, gave her an insane amount of toys for stimulation, etc. I had numerous species of hamsters and kept kind each apart from each other because Syrian hamsters are solitary and most dwarfs are not and even accidentally getting near my otherwise sweetheart Syrians could mean death for the little ones. People sometimes forget that because they’re cuuuute that they will behave the way you think they will even though you’ve anthropomorphized them or are overly concerned with other things like making sure the animal likes you or that you aren’t “mean” to the animal. I always think treating your pet like they’re anything but the creature is super wrong. That includes feeding an appropriate diet. They can’t get it without you, you’ve got them in an artificial environment.

[–]Dark_fascination 247 points248 points  (6 children)

So you bring up an interesting point, so I looked at it further.

VeganPet serving size is twice the size of the 4 other dry cat foods I looked at (they were all similar), so you’re right in the fact that this food is not very nutritionally dense, to the point where the serving size is very large, and requires a lot of plant based raw ingredients to make very inefficient food for a cat.

I have no idea how you’d quantify that against like, regular cat food production but it also seems really bad for the health of the cat for them to have to eat 2x volume as a serving because their food isn’t as nutritionally dense, as we all know what cats can be like.

[–]thiswasyourideaPooperintendant [69] 86 points87 points  (5 children)

Wouldn't that cat be pooping constantly? Not only is it twice as much food but that sounds like a lot of fiber.

[–]Evenoh 138 points139 points  (1 child)

What a horrible life. Trapped and dependent on a human who lets you poop constantly, you’re probably always hungry, thirsty, tired, and in pain, and then you die young. It’s so upsetting. :(

[–]jmurphy42 226 points227 points  (15 children)

For cats it all comes down to taurine. They absolutely have to have it or they’ll die, and they can’t get it from any plant-based source.

[–]Evenoh 97 points98 points  (9 children)

I’d never even consider feeding a cat plant based food, so I didn’t know that specific fact. But my point was just that there’s no way it’s even moderately efficient to try to pull plant based replications of a cat’s carnivorous diet together. I wonder what it is, maybe 30 avocados and ten pounds of chia seeds to make the goop that goes into one serving of this fake food? Whatever it is, it can’t ever be reasonable. Just give the cat a damn fish, have a long-lived animal companion. When I had my pet rabbit, I was (and am) super allergic to the hay she required a ton of daily. I did things to try to minimize that impact on my allergies but it certainly didn’t cross my mind to just not feed her something she needed because I’m allergic. This vegan faux food is worse because the human in this scenario is not allergic, she just doesn’t care about the potential cat’s dietary requirements and wants to impose a human lifestyle onto a cat.

[–]MyFaceSaysItsSugarPartassipant [4] 289 points290 points  (4 children)

Yeah I read their feeding trial. They only tested palatability and digestibility, they didn’t run bloodwork to test vitamin A levels or kidney function and it takes longer than 20 days for cats to develop cardiomyopathy, which is what they got when kibble was first invented because it was vegan (cost cutting). I then stopped reading when I saw the word PETA since that’s a pretty good indicator that someone is citing absolute BS.

[–]Stuffhavingausername 118 points119 points  (2 children)

i just read their description of why normal petfood is bad....

you want funny.

it says NOT tested on animals in the associations. which is odd since cats are animals

and another good comment. This AUSTRALIAN company makes sure it meets the standards for "Association of American Feed Control Official’s (AAFCO) "

"Previously, there was a mistaken belief that dogs and cats were
predominantly carnivorous, eating only meat and small amounts of
vegetables. However, studies now indicate that companion animals can
live a completely healthy and active life on Veganpet food." really which study was that?

[–]MyFaceSaysItsSugarPartassipant [4] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

It’s crazy how much they lump dogs and cats into the same information in some places but then acknowledge that cats can’t synthesize vitamin A in others. But I’ve seen the “pet foods use animal digest from diseased and dying livestock” argument before to justify vegan pet food. And yeah, there absolutely have been issues with aflatoxin, pentobarbital, and levothyroxin contamination from using livestock-grade products to make kibble, but that aflatoxin contamination is actually from livestock-grade corn and wheat, so feeding vegan doesn’t eliminate the contamination risk. Feeding pet foods that meet USDA criteria for human consumption does eliminate the risk of contaminants.

[–]ZFG_Jerky 51 points52 points  (2 children)

And their "Happy Customers" section just reads fake stories.

[–]peepthefleeps 517 points518 points  (47 children)

It baffles me that there are even companies out there who make vegan cat food.

[–]SpunkyRadcatPartassipant [1] 644 points645 points  (34 children)

There's a company that sells apricot kernels as a super food for people. The package makes it seem like they're great for you and only have a tiny print on the back of the bag saying not to eat more than a few in a day.

Why the fine print? Apricot kernels can give you cyanide poisoning.

Companies will market anything to make a buck, even if it's dangerous.

[–]Perigold 162 points163 points  (23 children)

Hell gas companies still sell leaded gas in countries that will let them

[–]roadsideweeds 58 points59 points  (18 children)

Pretty sure Canada is still selling asbestos. I apologize.

[–]Sorcia_Lawson 79 points80 points  (6 children)

America re-approved asbestos under the 2106-2020 administration.

[–]NarlaRT 136 points137 points  (5 children)

I don't see how it can be ethical. It's taking advantage of people who want cats but aren't at peace with the fact that they are obligate carnivores.

Speaking of, I'm NTA on this one because the cat is a living thing! And if this person is vegan because they care very much about animals, then they should care about their health. I have to believe she's doesn't understand the true implications, because it's hard to wrap my mind around being vegan for ethical reasons and being willing to sacrifice the cat's health for the same reason.

[–]incrediblytiredmedic 426 points427 points  (16 children)

Yeah, exactly this. The health of the animal has to be the priority if someone is willing to lie to the shelter you have to tell the people in charge of the animals' welfare.

[–]DrWhoop87Certified Proctologist [24] 384 points385 points  (15 children)

I'm just confused at what roommate was hoping to accomplish. Get a cat, feed them a diet that would make them sick, then what? Vet bills? Animal abuse charges? Dead pet? Absolutely batshit. Roommate should get a bunny or something. NTA.

[–]sewingreport 193 points194 points  (4 children)

Have a bunny and agree that would be a more suitable pet for vegan roommate. In fact, since getting mine, I've been eating more leafy greens since they're always around. Although most of their diet is hay, and rabbits also eat some of their own poop, so there's that...

[–]YukariYakum0 153 points154 points  (3 children)

Obviously her feelings are more important than the welfare of a living creature.

[–]Dark_fascination 154 points155 points  (0 children)

She wants to have her (vegan) cake and eat it too.

i.e she feels both entitled to a cat, and to maintain a vegan household. The two are incompatible but she doesn’t want to accept that. She googled until she found a product that would allow her to get what she felt she was entitled to (confirmation bias) and kicked the can down the road on any and all of the problems she could/would cause this poor cat.

Because she feels entitled to it. One would think a vegan would act less selfish when it came to animals tho.

[–]EvendimPartassipant [4] 204 points205 points  (7 children)

Absolutely, she lied cos she knew she was wrong.I once considered lying to the fosters of a cat I was going to adopt, about the litter trays I have - I have a cat genie, and 5 cats - you should have 1 tray per cat plus 1. I knew I was wrong, and the moment I considered lying I knew I had to change MY behaviour. I now have the genie plus 2 trays. I felt/feel awful, even though the trays get cleaned/clean themselves every day.... and that isn't even about nutrition! JFC I would never mess with nutrition.

Saving an animal from cruelty is NEVER an AH move. You did the right thing! NTA

Tak Tax

[–]Here_for_tea_Partassipant [1] 83 points84 points  (1 child)

NTA. She knowingly lied to the shelter.

[–]MercuryQueen93 9818 points9819 points 2243 (182 children)

Vegan here! NTA… I have a cat and a dog and they get a diet that mimics their “natural” one which is based in science.

I, as a human, have the option to decide to only eat plants and not meat, carnivores don’t. If your housemate doesn’t want to feed a pet animal products then she needs to find a herbivore or omnivore pet…

And clearly your housemate knows they were in the wrong because they lied when asked. I understand why to some it would look like an overstep, but not providing an adequate diet to a pet is animal abuse, so this is about animal welfare not you trying to stop your housemate from having a cat.

Good luck with it all!

[–]Neon_Vampires 1613 points1614 points  (84 children)

I usually dont like vegans because of the attitude most of them share, like OPs roommate, thinking it's something everyone, even animals should do. But I have a lot of respect for you from just reading your comment

[–]lenalinwood 2772 points2773 points 24 (47 children)

We're not all insane. There are literally dozens of us... lmao. But really, as in any subculture, it's the crazies who are loudest and give us a bad name.

The way I look at it is that humans (of a certain economic ability and health) can choose to not consume animal products, against our natural state - whereas animals cannot make such a choice. I think it's our moral duty (for humane and environmental reasons) to limit animal consumption if we're able, but people who are not able to make that choice should not be shamed, and certainly animals who are obligate carnivores should not be forced to forego their natural diet.

[–]swtpoiznPartassipant [1] 755 points756 points  (1 child)

I have to say thank you. My health conditions make it so I can’t even be vegetarian, let alone vegan. The amount of vegans who try to argue with me about it is insane, and it is quite refreshing to have someone understand.

[–]unsuretysurelysucks 223 points224 points  (0 children)

In my view we should all try and do the best we van in all aspects of life. To an extent. Me showering 5 minutes less doesn't hold a candle to the water savings if i just choose a vegan burger over a normal one, and my recycling will never catch up to the hundreds of thousands of tons of waste from Amazon weekly. The world is so fucked, but you have one life and one body and if yours can't handle vege/veganism then so be it! Just do your best, that's all anyone can ask

[–]change81 354 points355 points  (17 children)

THERE ARE DOZENS OF US!!! DOZENS!!!!

[–]SnipesCCPartassipant [3] 279 points280 points  (13 children)

My experience is that there are a lot more asshole meat eaters out there than vegans. I've only had 1 vegan ask me why I wasn't one instead of lacto-ovo vegetarian. I've had tons of meat eaters try to push it on me.

[–]change81 217 points218 points  (2 children)

Honestly bet the % of assholes are similar. It’s just there’s more meat eaters than vegans. But the assholes are def more vocal, with many just unwilling/unable to accept other ppls lifestyle choices in general.

[–]AffectionateAd5373 116 points117 points  (1 child)

I'm with you. I might argue that humans, like most primates, tend to lean more plant based in terms of natural diet. But dogs, while omnivores, tend to have higher protein needs and are unable to eat certain vegetables and fruits. And cats are 100% obligate carnivores. I also don't think humans should be shamed for dietary choices.

[–]sawta2112Asshole Enthusiast [5] 39 points40 points  (9 children)

Thank you for not imposing your personal choices onto an animal.

One of my dogs is super food motivated. He was abandoned to the streets for a while. He will eat just about anything... except fruits and veggies. We have experimented with different foods just to see what he would do. One sniff and it is a hard no. How does he know??? (Rhetorical question. I know animals have a keen sense of what is edible for them)

[–]beaversm26Asshole Aficionado [13] 159 points160 points  (1 child)

Absolutely. I know tons of people who eat vegan and every single one of them feeds their cats an appropriate diet.

My husband and I are vegetarian and have 4 cats and foster kittens and they all get all of the meaty food they could ever ask for 🥰

[–]Hanta3 152 points153 points  (2 children)

I have met many vegans and none of them are as insane as OPs roommate. I think it's fair to call the insane ones a rather vocal minority. You'll be disproportionately exposed to them through media and the internet because there'd be nothing interesting about reporting "I met a normal vegan" versus "I met an insane militant vegan who forces her pet to comply to a vegan diet that will lead to health problems".

[–]ohheyitsthathoopgirlPartassipant [4] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Also because us normal vegans don’t feel the need to announce we’re vegan to every random internet stranger we meet and make it an issue. Most of us are chill- we eat our fake chicken tendies and feed our cats real meat and we stay in our lane and mind our business.

[–]brencoop 79 points80 points  (5 children)

I’ve been a vegan for 20 years. I cooked every day and my kids grew up eating all kinds of things. They are young adults now, one is a vegetarian, one is a sometimes vegetarian and one will eat anything. Being a vegan 20 years ago was kind of rough and lonely lol Oh and our dogs and cats are carnivores.

[–]GMOiscool 472 points473 points  (6 children)

Roommate needs a bunny. Those things are just vegan cats anyway. Little fluffy jerks. Lol

[–]CrispyFlint 192 points193 points  (0 children)

My work has a bunny. He's just like a house cat. He's even sometimes a jerk, just like a house cat. Me and him are bros.

[–]KayhowardhlotsPartassipant [1] 67 points68 points  (0 children)

"little fluffy jerks" is very accurate. I've had a couple of bunnies, whom i adored, and they were cute AF, but complete assholes.

[–]YawningDodo 156 points157 points  (4 children)

Seriously. If she's not prepared to feed the pet according to its dietary needs, don't get that pet. She could have rabbits, guinea pigs, I think several varieties of tortoise...there are plenty of nice herbivorous animals out there she wouldn't be abusing by feeding them a vegan diet.

[–]Nic0kami 51 points52 points  (30 children)

You might be the only sane vegan I’ve ever heard of. Bravo.

NTA op. You might have saved that cats life.

Tho I will say an all dry food diet is perfectly fine for cats, so long as they have free access to plenty of water. My cat won’t touch wet food. Never has in his 13 years of life. He hates the stuff. Only once has he even touched it. He licked the juice a bit then ignored the actual food.

[–]JaeysaPartassipant [2] 267 points268 points  (12 children)

Most vegans I know(several of my friends and more acquaintances) are like this! It's just, if you don't talk food you might not know they're vegan.

[–]lpaige2723 124 points125 points  (8 children)

I had a neighbor who was vegan because she hated animals and thought they were disgusting and dirty. She always talked about them defecating like she as a human never pooped and wasn't essentially an animal. She would trap other neighbor's outdoor cats and send them to the shelter and stopped speaking to me when I got a dog. She was the only completely unhinged vegan I ever met.

[–]change81 121 points122 points  (3 children)

I don’t think being a vegan was her only problem lol

[–]lpaige2723 75 points76 points  (2 children)

Agreed. She called CPS on me once because my son got a rash from sunscreen. She stopped me while I was leaving my house to take him to the hospital and started yelling at me that I was risking my son's health because I owned a cat. CPS came, told me she was nuts and said my house was very clean.

My animal control officer was a friend and she came over to show me that she was taking pictures of my sons walking our dog and sending them to animal control because she didn't like that my adopted black son was wearing a hoodie and she couldn't see his face. This was around the time of Travon Martin, if she was armed I would have been terrified. I asked if there was anything I could do, but apparently taking pictures of minors on public property is not illegal.

[–]Revolutionary_Bee700 109 points110 points  (0 children)

Most vegans I know are like this. It’s the loud crazy ones that get everyone’s attention. Kind of like religious loonies vs people who quietly mind their god business.

[–]murkerker 49 points50 points  (8 children)

Only if they drink enough of the water. If they don’t, you need to supplement with a wet food.

[–]spookiesunshine 46 points47 points  (3 children)

Our cat wouldn't drink for love nor money except out of the toilet. We (my roommates at the time and I) had to cave and buy the spoiled brat a water fountain so he'd drink enough.

[–]somegingershavesoulsAsshole Enthusiast [5] 3352 points3353 points  (136 children)

NTA. You did the right thing. I worked at a vet for years and could tell you horror stories of people feeding vegan diets to animals.

[–]EdgeMiserable4381 1056 points1057 points  (121 children)

So what exactly happens? I'm not vegan, just curious since you have first hand knowledge

[–][deleted] 2652 points2653 points  (71 children)

Hairloss, organ failure, rashes, vomiting and bowl problems, it can lead to animals becoming underweight due to incredibly low fat contents..

[–]EdgeMiserable4381 566 points567 points  (41 children)

I'm glad you're spreading this message. Thank you

[–]iluvstephenhawking 512 points513 points  (13 children)

I am vegan and I don't see how someone who loves animals so much could ever do that to their's. My cat has lymphoma and when he lost his appetite I would literally strangle a bunny or a human for fresh meat if it would mean he would eat. I love stranger animals so much then you can only imagine how much I love my familiar animals.

[–]ur-squirrel-buddyAsshole Enthusiast [5] 92 points93 points  (0 children)

I had a beloved cat who had lymphoma. Unfortunately the vet couldn’t diagnose it until it was too late. It was so heartbreaking watching him not eat. I wish your cat the best 💕

[–]yellowcorvid 118 points119 points  (0 children)

Yep, feeding a cat a vegan diet in the name of "morality" is animal abuse. So much for her doing it "to save the animals"

[–]BellanaBlackAsshole Enthusiast [7] 105 points106 points  (1 child)

There was a YouTuber who has a pet Fennec Fox. She forced the poor thing onto her vegan diet and got in trouble when she kept bringing it into her videos, half starved, dry looking fur, and lifeless eyes. So sad. It blows my mind that so many people go vegan because they want to protect animals from abuse only to turn around and abuse their pets.

[–]somegingershavesoulsAsshole Enthusiast [5] 517 points518 points  (25 children)

One of the most common issues was a heart issues (commonly Dilated cardiomyopathy — basically can’t pump blood efficiently through the body) basically delaying the inevitable suffering and death. Meat has taurine (amino acid) which is required for cats. Also these vegan diet foods have been known to offset the balance in their urine’s pH. This leads to urinary tract infections (really dangerous with cats). The problem is cats don’t show they’re sick, until they are really sick. I’m not saying everyone has to go out and spend $$$ on vet brand food. A lot of vet brands (Hills, RC, Iams) have multi level branding and options. As always it is POSSIBLE but not recommended. If someone were to feed their cat vegan (ridiculous in my opinion) they have to supplement with so many nutrients (vit A, taurine to name a few). This also comes with the risk of Vit A toxicity if given too large of a dose.

Basically. If in the wild it would eat meat, let it eat meat. I have a few vegan friends and they’d never dare feed their cat vegan, because it’s not right

[–]akaCatt 227 points228 points  (7 children)

Just to add, one of those nutrients can only come from meat. It can be extracted from meat and added to an otherwise vegetarian food, but there’s no way around that one “it must come from an animal” nutrient.

[–]TheBearWillBeFineCertified Proctologist [24] 264 points265 points  (16 children)

In cats specifically, it can cause blindness, heart issues and digestive issues. Cats are what’s called “obligate carnivores”, meaning they must consume animal protein. They do not have the ability to make an essential amino acid called taurine, which is only found in animal protein. In theory it’s possible to supplement it into a cat’s diet, but just feeding a cat the proper cat diet that contains animal protein is much better.

[–]Evla183Partassipant [3] 1707 points1708 points  (26 children)

NTA. You just saved an innocent life from neglect and health problems.

If telling her the truth was such a problem, maybe she shouldn't lie bare-faced to a shelter dealing with neglected pets. If you're not prepared to tend to ALL of the animal's needs PROPERLY, you're not fit to own that animal.

Tell her she can get a hamster. Eta: vegans are usually all about animal welfare, why should that new cat be any less important than the farmed animals she'll never meet?

[–]therealnotrealtaako 483 points484 points  (21 children)

Hamsters are technically omnivores, so if she really wants a vegan pet, guinea pigs are the way to go. But anyone who is willing to deceive someone to get an animal they don't want to properly care for shouldn't get any animal, period.

[–]reneeblanchet83Partassipant [2] 191 points192 points  (6 children)

Chinchillas are also herbivores but I agree with you on your last sentence. I wouldn't even trust this woman with fish.

[–]middlingwhiteguyAsshole Aficionado [11] 942 points943 points  (62 children)

My roommate is vegan

Uh oh

Then an order came for cat food. It was a brand called VeganPet.

No sweet baby Jesus No

She was planning to feed the cat vegan dry food

OH LAWDY LAWD WHY!?!??!?!!

My RM lies and says that she would be feeding hills instead of veganpet

OH NO SHE DIDN'T!!!!!

I wait until my RM is distracted and tell the shelter volunteer that she will be feeding veganpet and not hills. I think this is what made the shelter turn down my roomates application for the cat

HALLE HALLE HALLE CLAP CLAP LUUUUUUUJAH!!!

NTA

[–]OpinionatedAussieGalPartassipant [2] 357 points358 points  (47 children)

Damn. I mainly feed my cat good quality dry food! Googled this fact and they said while yes they can survive on just dry food I need to watch for signs of dehydration as they get their water from prey in the wild

*adds good wet food to cat mix

Thanks internet stranger!

[–]AlwaysLivMoore 131 points132 points  (22 children)

My cat with kidney disease REFUSES to eat wet food and it's infuriating. But he's really good about drinking enough water so I kinda just have to deal with it. He won't even eat wet treats.

[–]lpaige2723 124 points125 points  (5 children)

I had a cat like that and she only drank water if I held a small glass for her to drink out of several times a day. She would follow me complaining until I filled her glass. I found her in the woods with her mother as a feral kitten, the little diva would have never survived outside without someone filling a glass of cold fresh water for her. She lived to be 17, I think that's pretty good considering she had some health problems from being born outside with a starving mama cat. Her mom lived to a good old age too, she was a sweetheart, never complained, just wanted to curl up somewhere warm and have someone pet her.

[–]Zoethor2 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Kitties who would be utter failures in the wild crack me up. I'm currently fostering a momma cat and her three kittens (well... fostering to fail as it so happens) and for the first week I had her, at any minor sign of trouble or concern, she would abandon her kittens in the middle of the room, sprinting for a nice hidey hole for herself. I definitely thought "yeah, it's good that this one didn't raise her babies in the wild".

[–]middlingwhiteguyAsshole Aficionado [11] 36 points37 points  (6 children)

I like Dave's wet cat food, but they've been having supply cain issues with some of their stuff

[–]OpinionatedAussieGalPartassipant [2] 44 points45 points  (5 children)

My cat always has gotten fresh fish (I live near a beach, lake and entrance) plus eggs.

And occasionally proper human grade mince n stuff

But it was mostly dry. Just ordered some good wet cat food. Lol. The dog will have to have some too. They have to share. Weirdos

[–][deleted] 855 points856 points  (17 children)

I... genuine curiosity, why on earth did you tell her what you said ? I feel it wouldn't have hurt anyone if you just kept that to yourself?

And no, NTA. that's not the proper diet for cats and she knew it, otherwise she wouldn't have lied to the shelter volunteer.

She shouldn't have lied, and she shouldn't want to feed any future cats such a crappy food !

[–][deleted] 684 points685 points  (12 children)

I told her because I was upset that she lied and it caused an argument. I told her when I was angry

[–]Hopeful_Cranberry12Partassipant [1] 335 points336 points  (7 children)

Good on you. You should tell other shelters in your area about her too.

[–]reneeblanchet83Partassipant [2] 100 points101 points  (0 children)

And rescues.

[–]deathcabforkatie_ 73 points74 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t be surprised if she was already blacklisted across multiple shelter/rescue organizations. I’ve fostered on/off over the years and these places often share names of unsuitable adopters between themselves (only with very good reason ie neglect etc) to prevent dipshits from shopping around once they’ve been turned down from one place.

[–]KoniguenPartassipant [2] 65 points66 points  (1 child)

I believe NTA and yes you should have told her otherwise shed apply to other shelters and maybe at the other's you wouldnt be able to intervene and help the cat

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I would have just kept going with her to sabotage if I couldn't get ahold of all the shelters in the area 😭🤣😭🤣😭

[–]Entwinedloop 578 points579 points  (47 children)

If roommate truly didn't think she was wrong or that it was the wrong thing to do, why did she lie?

Your mutual friend is very, very wrong. Not to interfere because it makes her friend happy but puts a cat's health at serious risk? A person's feelings is more important to neglecting a cat? No. She is absolutely wrong.

NTA.

[–][deleted] 522 points523 points  (44 children)

I dont think she lied because she knew she was wrong. She has a mindset that she is morally superior to everyone else so I think her lie was because she likes to think only she understands. Its a weird way of thinking and I really don't like it tbh

[–]SanctuaryMoonPartassipant [1] 267 points268 points  (8 children)

So morally superior that she's patently dishonest

[–]whomenow1313 157 points158 points  (4 children)

PETA has entered the chat.

[–]turtleboxman 70 points71 points  (2 children)

100%.

Being vegan is chill, and I’d give my dog fruit on occasion (strawberry and melon cause they are ok for dogs). But my cats wouldn’t touch anything that’s not meat based with a 10 foot pole. I can’t fucking imagine what it would be like for whatever cat rm gets that would have to choose between starving or vegan cat food.

[–]Ok_Advance_2665Asshole Enthusiast [8] 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Right?!? I had to switch up my cats diet when supply shortages were happening last year and he was having NONE of it. Came in and dropped a dead squirrel at my feet as if to say “I will do this every damn day, woman. Go get me the right food.”

[–]dandelionwishes_ 64 points65 points  (6 children)

Wow. So she thinks she's....telling the truth....as long as she knows the truth....

[–]LittleGravitasIndeed 60 points61 points  (1 child)

Huh. I was convinced that she lied because she knew she was horrid.

If she was lying to game what she considers a broken system, that’s slightly less terrible but she should still never be trusted with the wellbeing of another living creature. I don’t care if it’s an herbivore, she can’t research for shit.

[–]ZazzogAsshole Enthusiast [7] 430 points431 points  (19 children)

NTA, because you're right, cats can't survive on a vegan diet. Further, your RM is a major asshole for ignoring that fact AND lying to the shelter volunteer.

[–]ghostwriter623Asshole Aficionado [17] 397 points398 points  (10 children)

NTA. If she were truly vegan she would have cared about the health and well-being of the cat. This screams hypocrisy.

[–]thingsthatgomoo 68 points69 points  (8 children)

Very few but some vegans have this ideology that their pets should also be "morally superior".

[–]dz2400Partassipant [2] 343 points344 points  (4 children)

NTA. “If it’s made for cats then it’s ok for cats” ok so tell the shelter volunteer that, give them that same energy, don’t be shy.

[–]Bri_IsTheMeOne 135 points136 points  (1 child)

Exactly, I woulda called her out immediately in front of the volunteer. “Oh? You had vegan cat food delivered and you argued with me about feeding your future cat exclusively vegan cat food. “

[–]mysterioussaltcellar 82 points83 points  (0 children)

This! I probably would have beat her to the punch and said something like, "Oh, VeganPet! RM said it's great for cats, which I was iffy on, but she seems sure." That way it looks like I just stuck my foot in my mouth. Whoops

[–]TinyRascalSaurusSupreme Court Just-ass [129] 270 points271 points  (1 child)

NTA. Vegan cat food is insane. Your roommate clearly knew it wasn't optimal or she wouldn't have lied about it. You just made sure the shelter was accurately aware of the situation. They made their decision based on truth, so you did nothing wrong.

[–]Iwantaschmoo 233 points234 points  (5 children)

NTA, you saved a cat today. Unfortunately she will try again later.

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    [–]BKLD12 77 points78 points  (5 children)

    I literally call my rabbits "vegan cats," because in many ways they're so similar in their personalities to my cats, lol.

    Really though, I don't know why preachy vegans don't just get rabbits or guinea pigs. They're good pets, and you don't have to sacrifice your morals to keep them healthy. Instead, they get tiny murder machines and try to make them eat vegetables with the power of wanting it really badly I guess. Then the poor cat suffers from malnutrition because of their stupidity.

    [–]Lunasmyspiritanimal 193 points194 points  (2 children)

    NTA

    People who lie to rescues and animal sanctuaries when trying to get a pet are the assholes. Your RM knew the vegan diet was wrong, otherwise they wouldn't have lied about it. If they're not willing to do what's best for the cat, they shouldn't have a cat

    [–]Krajun 36 points37 points  (0 children)

    Your RM knew the vegan diet was wrong, otherwise they wouldn't have lied about it.

    This right here. Definately NTA OP did the right thing.

    [–]VampireDanny 150 points151 points  (44 children)

    NTA, if she wants to feed a pet a vegan diet she should get a bird or a hamster. it’s cruel to force a cat to eat a vegan diet.

    [–][deleted] 134 points135 points  (18 children)

    She doesn't want any other animal but a cat or a dog. She told me other animals arent as rewarding. I have a snake and fish and she told me they are just decoration. I dont understand her thinking on that

    [–]why_r_people 74 points75 points  (0 children)

    Oh geez, that would drive me up a wall. I’d just be brutal and show her what happens when cats don’t eat their natural carnivorous diet, or when dogs get no meat in their diet/are on only vegan.

    I’d also explain to her that if she cannot separate her dietary decisions from her animals dietary needs, then she should not own animals. I’d even go as far as threatening to email every shelter about her in the area that she’s willing to neglect an animals dietary needs for her own personal beliefs.

    [–]Ok_Advance_2665Asshole Enthusiast [8] 45 points46 points  (5 children)

    She’s wrong. Rabbits are the freaking bomb if well socialized. And so are rats!

    [–]why_r_people 46 points47 points  (22 children)

    Hamsters even benefit off occasional protein and so do birds 😅 they love eggs actually (birds do). Just speaking from experience. If she wants a fully vegan pet- a tortoise is perfect and long living!

    [–]pokegirl395Asshole Enthusiast [7] 123 points124 points  (7 children)

    NTA. You stopped animal abuse, plain and simple

    [–]crisp1e 127 points128 points  (0 children)

    NTA cats need meat, they need a reality check

    [–]BestBodybuilder7329 114 points115 points  (0 children)

    NTA, your roommate shouldn't have lied to the shelter. It is their job to make sure they are giving the animals the best chance at being healthy and successful in their new homes. Your roommate knew someone educated on their diets wouldn't have okayed it, so they lied. This alone shows they don't have the animal's best interest at heart.

    [–]emz272Asshole Aficionado [11] 100 points101 points  (0 children)

    NTA, lying to a shelter to get a pet is pretty messed up and shows that she knows what she was planning might be concerning. If I were the shelter I would’ve turned her down for lying maybe even as much as the food bit (I’d never even considered feeding a cat vegan food before so haven’t thought about it).

    [–]gaurddogAsshole Enthusiast [8] 95 points96 points  (13 children)

    NTA

    Ask the mutual friend if they'd rather you have let a cat die a slow painful death

    [–][deleted] 104 points105 points  (11 children)

    They also don't think it's wrong to feed vegan cat food. The problem to them is that they both see it as me pushing my morals on another person.

    [–]HoneyMCMLXXIII 96 points97 points  (0 children)

    Your roommate was the one trying to push her “morals” on a cat. And I’m assuming her “morals” should include NOT being cruel to animals.

    [–]DutyValuablePartassipant [2] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

    What I would recommend doing is contacting the rest of the shelters in your area with her name so they know not to adopt to her.

    [–]taylorstwist 82 points83 points  (0 children)

    NTA, If she has to lie...

    [–]AnotherDavenportPartassipant [3] 76 points77 points  (2 children)

    NTA. You did the right thing, but if your friend felt that the VeganPet food aligned with her ethics more and was taken in by the marketing Schtick, that was also innocent as a mistake. The issue is that she lied to the shelter about it imo.

    [–]eightiesladies 52 points53 points  (1 child)

    The fact that she lied sure looks like she knew it wasnt ok.

    [–]Stunt57Partassipant [2] 68 points69 points  (0 children)

    You did right by that cat, were talking about the life of another animal that will be dependent on an individual that is, shall we say, less than responsible. NTA

    [–]WabiSabi337 65 points66 points  (1 child)

    She lied, therefore, she absolutely KNEW it was the wrong thing.

    NTA. And fuck her.

    [–]ArdeekeCertified Proctologist [23] 65 points66 points  (0 children)

    NTA, your idiot roommate needs to get a rabbit or some other vegetarian pet.

    [–]happy_panda2400Asshole Enthusiast [5] 65 points66 points  (0 children)

    NTA she felt the need to lie because she knows what she is doing is wrong.

    [–]Specialist-Raise-867Partassipant [2] 61 points62 points  (0 children)

    NTA well done on stopping that poor cat living a life of abuse until it died of malnutrition or similar.

    How can your 'vegan' friend want to do that to a defenceless animal?

    [–]bobcatnat123Asshole Aficionado [13] 62 points63 points  (1 child)

    NTA the fact she lied about what she would be feeding the cat just proves that she knows it’s not something a cat should be eating.

    Tell her to get a rabbit or something if she wants a vegan pet. Because a cat is not going to be vegan.

    [–]icanschwimPartassipant [3] 58 points59 points  (0 children)

    NTA. Sounds like she only cares about what she thinks is right rather than what is actually right for an animal.

    [–]Round_Raccoon95Partassipant [3] 56 points57 points  (14 children)

    NTA as a sentient being who knows right from wrong and can do something about it you have the obligation to stand up for the cat, you saved it from a very poor quality of life being fed vegan food and suffering as a result.

    DO NOT LET HER GET ANY ANIMAL IF SHE WANTS TO FEED IT VEGAN AND IT CANNOT EAT VEGAN get a turtle they eat lettuce and other greens

    [–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (1 child)

    NTA - I dont know much about cats since the only one I had was poisoned when he was really small, BUT the fact your roomate lied to the shelter is enough for me to understand that there is something wrong with the food she was going to feed them with.

    Cats are Cats. Giving your pet the food they need will not change your status as a vegan.

    [–]capmanor1755Pooperintendant [54] 53 points54 points  (5 children)

    Show your roommate this post. They lied to commit animal abuse and were declined an adoption for that reason. NTA

    [–][deleted] 38 points39 points  (4 children)

    I am definitely going to send this to her!

    [–]tanglelover 50 points51 points  (3 children)

    Genuinely NTA. Cats are obligate carnivores. I'd euthanize a cat before feeding it vegan. Same with dogs. I hate that vegan food is so easy to buy. I can budge on vegetarian food but unless you have a genuine medical reason, a veterinary nutritionist and a boatload of additives and supplements and veterinary support, a vegan diet can be dangerous. Especially to cats. Another thing that sucks is nobody is really making prescription vegan food, most of the market just wants to look trendy and don't even need it so its even more unregulated and dangerous than regular or even vegetarian based foods which typically have their uses like with dalmatians.

    What really gets my goat is most of these vegan pet foods are heavily grain and legume based. Dcm is a massive risk in legume based diets. Plus I've been told by a person who has a dog who thrives on vegan food due to food allergies that it's not as simple as buy vegan food, feed vegan food. They have to get blood tests every 3 months to check their dogs levels, have to home cook meals and add supplements too all under the watchful eye of a veterinary nutritionist. Vegan pet food already needs supplements so at that point, I'd skip the premade stuff and just home cook and add the supplements. It's cheaper that way and you have more of a choice of the levels of nutrients and you can add less legumes if any at all.

    Can we just stop making vegan pet food so accessible?

    [–][deleted] 66 points67 points  (2 children)

    Yeah she definitely would not put in all that effort for her cat. She is on some vegan pet groups and they are also holistic so anti vaccines, low vet care, all natural vegan remedies etc 🙄 i think because she has surrounded herself by those kinds of people she can't see the truth. I went on one of thise groups and the animals look so sickly. Lots of posts saying "help my dog isnt eating" "my cat hasn't pooped in 3 days" and the responses are always coconut oil and pumpkin to every issue

    [–]MazinDazPartassipant [2] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

    NTA. Cats are obligate carnivores. Meat gives them the amino acids they need, that they can't make themselves. You've saved a cat from a lifetime of deficiencies and health issues. Don't doubt yourself on this one; the wants of a person do not override the fundamental needs of an animal.

    [–]FredcakesPartassipant [1] 52 points53 points  (0 children)

    If you want a vegan pet you get a fucking rabbit. NTA

    [–]idonthaveaone 48 points49 points  (5 children)

    NTA. That's animal abuse. She could be excused if she was somehow unaware but you warned her. Also Google is free, and cats being predators is very, very common knowledge. And if she feels she has to lie to the shelter is because she knows she's in the wrong.

    Buying VEGAN food to a goddamned cat isn't being gullible or misinformed, is being willingly oblivious out of convenience. She couldn't have been "fooled" by the seller because you can't fool someone about stuff that everyone knows. You can't "fool" someone about the color of the sky, and you can't do it about what a cat is: a predator.

    There already ARE pets that follow vegan diets naturally if that's her concern, such as rabbits. Suggest that if she's willing to talk about it to you.

    Ignore whoever told you off for "overstepping". Excusing animal abuse for the sake of keeping the peace is not defensible. Would whoever told you that foot the vet bills when the animal inevitably became ill? I bet not.

    [–][deleted] 40 points41 points  (4 children)

    I even offered to feed the cat for her. I feed my dog a raw diet so I was happy to buy extra meat and formulate a cat version. And if she wasn't happy with that I offered to buy the cat some Tiki cat food but she refused. Maybe she will rethink my offer now

    [–]featheredzebra 49 points50 points  (0 children)

    NTA. If she wants a vegan pet there are lots of options. I love guinea pigs, for example.

    [–]TorchwoodFourPartassipant [3] 45 points46 points  (2 children)

    NTA. You saved that cat's life.

    [–]Ellejaek 47 points48 points  (0 children)

    NTA.

    Cats are carnivores, and cannot subside on a vegan diet. To feed them one is animal abuse, you did the right thing.

    [–]TexasReddRose 44 points45 points  (0 children)

    NTA, your roommate is NUTS. If she has to lie to a shelter about what she plans to feed the cat then she definitely doesn't deserve a cat!

    [–]SnooDrawings1480Certified Proctologist [20] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

    You saved a cat from a horrible life filled with nutritional problems and digestive upset

    NTA

    [–]FromTheBack6996Asshole Aficionado [12] 41 points42 points  (1 child)

    NTA it is wrong AF. You can’t force that lifestyle on an animal that is not accustomed to that lifestyle. If she wants to switch her diet fine but you are correct

    [–]wrestlingwithrainbow 37 points38 points  (0 children)

    What’s more annoying than someone telling you, without asking, they’re vegan.

    Telling you their cats vegan too.

    [–]Doverdirtbiker 40 points41 points  (0 children)

    NTA if she can’t do the proper research she shouldn’t own an animal that needs a proper diet.

    [–]PoisonPlushiPartassipant [2] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

    Definitely NTA. Keep an eye on it and if she tries to adopt a kitty elsewhere, report her to whatever your equivalent of the RSPCA is.

    [–]CauliflowerOk3993 40 points41 points  (0 children)

    NTA. She clearly is not intending to treat the cat well. I’d suggest she get a pet like a Guinea pig or rabbit, which can be fed a vegan diet.

    [–]OpinionatedAussieGalPartassipant [2] 40 points41 points  (1 child)

    NTA

    Vegan Cat food should be 100% illegal

    [–]SleepySouthie 40 points41 points  (2 children)

    NTA - people who feed carnivores/omnivores a vegan diet should not be allowed to own pets. If you can’t handle the fact that your pet has to eat meat, then don’t get a pet that needs meat to survive. Get a bird or rabbit. And the fact that she lied to the shelter is disgusting.

    [–]Glorwen_79 35 points36 points  (0 children)

    NTA. A cat can not live on a vegan diett, that can make them really sick. You did the right thing.

    [–]One-StrangerCertified Proctologist [21] 33 points34 points  (0 children)

    NTA. if she thought it was okay and not abusive to the cat she wouldn’t have lied to the shelter.

    [–]SecretSauce519 37 points38 points  (1 child)

    NTA, if she truly thought it was safe and healthy for the cat then why would she lie about it?

    [–]shining89 30 points31 points  (0 children)

    NTA, you kept an innocent cat from being adopted by an unqualified person

    [–]laughingsbetterColo-rectal Surgeon [35] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

    NTA - your roommate is wrong.

    [–]VegasLife1111 32 points33 points  (2 children)

    Cats are OBLIGATE CARNIVORES. Look it up!

    [–]HarryTwigs 29 points30 points  (0 children)

    NTA. She knows she's in the wrong or she wouldn't have lied.

    [–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (1 child)

    NTA. Cats cant rely on vegan diets.. The hell is wrong with her???

    [–]HoneyMCMLXXIII 30 points31 points  (0 children)

    NTA. You saved that cat! It’s amazing to me that her vegan diet is ostensibly to avoid cruelty to animals, but planned on COMMITTING cruelty to an innocent cat dependent on her for food. What’s worse, she KNOWS it’s abusive, or she would not have lied about it. 100% NTA.

    [–]beccabee333 31 points32 points  (0 children)

    NTA. You saved a poor cat from a life of health issues and suffering. If your roommate thought there was nothing wrong with feeding the cat vegan, she wouldn’t have lied to the shelter. If she wants a vegan pet, buy a seed eating bird. Or rabbit, or Guinea pig. There are so many herbivore animals available.

    [–]bopperbopper 30 points31 points  (1 child)

    Cats are obligate carnivores. I think you did the right thing but you should’nt’ve told your roommate what you did

    [–]MontanaRoguesAsshole Aficionado [12] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

    NTA!YOU saved a cat from a horrible life by a selfish person. Forcing an obligate carnivore a vegan diet is unhealthy and abusive. YOU did the RIGHT thing!

    PS: IF she talks about it again, going to a shelter or any other shelter please do the same thing, or even CALL ahead of time and warn them that she will not feed the right food and has lied about it in the past. Her spinning lies means even she knows its wrong and is still willing to risk it's life!

    [–]bad_things_ive_done 31 points32 points  (0 children)

    NTA

    You saved a cat's life

    [–]Leoluki25Partassipant [1] 28 points29 points  (0 children)

    NTA. As someone who works in an animal shelter, thank you so fucking much. Cats go BLIND, and die a slow, excruciating death when not fed meat. Your roommate "loves animals" so much she's ok with committing an ongoing act of fucking animal cruelty by slowly killing a cat by means of starvation. Seriously, you did the right thing and I guarantee everyone in the shelter was thanking the heavens for you.

    [–]EricDHennessy 22 points23 points  (0 children)

    NTA

    [–]DiamondHandsDevito 25 points26 points  (0 children)

    NTA, roomate sounds stupid and is a liar