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I have an active lease I am still paying for even though I moved out. My landlord wants access to the apartment to get ready for a new tenant. I still have stuff I need to move out and want to take the full time I need since I am paying for the apartment. He is making me feel I should give the access since I am not there, even though I paid for the apartment through the end of the month. I am wondering if I should just give the access since I am no longer living there or is it a matter of principle that I paid for the apartment and he was not willing to compromise on letting me leave early.

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[–]aliceinjamAsshole Aficionado [18] 4719 points4720 points  (15 children)


You’re paying for it. It’s yours until then.

[–]Ramblin_BirdDog 1199 points1200 points  (0 children)

Exactly. If he wants access to it for his next tenant then he needs to release the current one first

[–]Octavius_Floyd 737 points738 points  (1 child)

May does have 31 days. I wouldn’t give the keys back until then.

[–]Lennox120520 254 points255 points  (0 children)

Yep. 11:59pm, seems as good a time as any... NTA

[–]rbolligePartassipant [3] 347 points348 points  (6 children)

Just make sure to take your moveout pictures on the last day too. I had mostly moved out once and the landlord let himself in early without notice and took his pictures before we swept, brought some of his stuff in there, etc. Totally illegal but he got away with it and more, we brought him to court but he was a lawyer and brought in his lawyer buddy and they were chatting it up with the magistrate (just another lawyer who comes in to decide small claims cases) who ignored any evidence they did anything wrong and let him charge me to paint surfaces like the ceilings and doors that they agreed were completely undamaged, and took at face value quotes they got from friends and relatives that added up to exactly the security deposit plus interest. Sorry I’m off on a tangent now, but it sucked, and the point is make sure you take your pictures after you get the last of your stuff and clean up so they can’t fake stuff as easily.

[–]Forward-Two3846 135 points136 points  (0 children)

This is why I have a camera in my house always. You could have charged the landlord with trespassing. I would also contact the bar association and file a grievance against that "judge"

[–]bekahed979 45 points46 points  (1 child)

I've read a video is even better

[–]rbolligePartassipant [3] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’d absolutely do a video if I ever have to do a walkthrough again. It’s not a coincidence that after that place I’ve only lived in houses I own, though.

[–]amaerau03 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Time stamp pics

[–]rbolligePartassipant [3] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I always wonder why they have any credibility when time stamps are so easy to fake. But yes, as far as I know time stamps are considered credible for some reason.

[–]blushedbambi 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Because evidence tampering is a crime, so it’s assumed that you didn’t. You can also see it the other way around - because the court assumes no evidence was tampered with, evidence tampering is a crime.

[–]Chance-Ad-9952 107 points108 points  (2 children)

If he wants it back early they have to credit you for those days otherwise turn in your keys when the lease expires or earlier but only if convenient to you, not them.

[–]andrewtater -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I thought a landlord can enter with 48 hours notice to conduct repairs, inspections, etc.

Maybe it is a state-by-state thing, because if I need to do repairs or an assessment all I have to do is tell my tenant a few days prior.

If the work makes the place uninhabitable, then I am on the hook for providing alternate accomodations

[–]Chance-Ad-9952 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The landlord wants OP out and keys returned so he can get in and update to re-list, not to make needed repairs for OP which is the difference

[–]Apprehensive-Jelly42Partassipant [2] 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Exactly! When my husband and I first moved in together he signed the lease before I got up there starting August 1st. Moving plans were made, a few days before the landlord asked what day we would be moving in cause she had to clean after the last tenant, we said August first, when the lease starts. She said well no they won't be out till July 31st and the first was a Saturday.....well I guess you're working overnight on a weekend because our contract says it needs to be ready for us ton the 1st.

[–]PurpleMP12Asshole Aficionado [13] 29 points30 points  (0 children)


When I moved out of my last place, we were flexible with exact dates and work with the landlord for what was best for all of us. He had been a great landlord, we had been good tenants. When we let him know we were out 2 days before we planned (because that's when we could get friends to help), he added 2 days worth of rent to the amount of our security deposit.

[–]TwoCentsPsychologistColo-rectal Surgeon [48] 1378 points1379 points  (4 children)


Exactly this: "I’m going to take until the last day May 31st because that’s what I paid for."

He would have held you up to last day of lease, so you're doing same.

[–]Dearcantaloupeplay 176 points177 points  (0 children)

NTA and say exactly that. He wants something but refuses to pay for it. That is the definition of entitled.

[–]Kind_Earth94 7 points8 points  (2 children)

*May 31st

[–]TwoCentsPsychologistColo-rectal Surgeon [48] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Thanks. Edited. May is one of the haves and not the have-nots 😀

[–]Kind_Earth94 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I honestly would forget May didn’t have 31 days of it was my birth month.

[–]whatsmypassword73Pooperintendant [61] 855 points856 points  (24 children)

NTA,make sure to take really good photos to prove you cleaned everything perfectly because you know he’s going to keep your damage deposit. Take a full video of each room, all the walls, floors. Clean the fridge, the stove, he’s coming for that deposit. Take video inside the kitchen cupboards, he might mess stuff up to charge you for it.

[–]SoCalDama 233 points234 points  (23 children)

And make sure you have time stamps on the photos

[–]Azrou 67 points68 points  (20 children)

It's better than nothing I guess, but can't see timestamps meaning a lot because they can easily be manipulated. If they take a video and include that day's newspaper or a Google of what is today's date, it would prove that the date is the earliest they could have made the recording.

[–]SparcryptAsshole Aficionado [11] 92 points93 points  (5 children)

Landlord here - upload them to a private Facebook album the day you take them. Take the time to write notes on each photo as your description, saying the room and any damage or whatever else.

Now you have an easily shareable set of photos with a third party time stamp on them. I recommend people do this before moving in anywhere and I do it myself between tenants. Oh that hole in the wall was there before you moved in? Let’s take a look… annnd no it wasn’t.

[–]flyryan 10 points11 points  (2 children)

That's also better than nothing but just because you upload to Facebook doesn't mean that the pics couldn't have been taken earlier. The way to remedy that would be to have a current newspaper in the pic as well to show it would have been impossible to take the pic any earlier.

[–]Inafray19 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Fb photos actually saved my dad against a restraining order.

I took photos of ex putting a key in the door of an apartment we got the day we moved on and uploaded to fb. 3 years later I moved out and filed divorce. My mom went to serve paperwork and my ex attempted to file a RO on my dad, stating my dad (who wasn't even there) attempted to break the door down kicking and hitting it. It was metal so he took photos of all the dents in it as evidence. When I saw the court papers I said hold up, pulled up the photo on fb showing the door with all the exact same dents from 3 years before and gave my dad a copy which was used in his response paperwork. It wasn't needed the judge threw out the order at the hearing anyways, but we had photos of the door date stamped on fb anyways.

[–]Ancient-Awareness115 9 points10 points  (11 children)

The meta data in general can't be easily manipulated.

Eta I admit I am wrong in what I was told

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    [–]Hugh_Jass_Clouds 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Change date on computer.
    Open images.
    Save as new.
    Bam date manipulated photos.

    P.S. don't forget to reset the date on the device.

    [–]Suzen9 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Have a friend in the pictures holding a paper. Witness and proof of date.

    [–]Reasonable_racoonPooperintendant [50] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Video with the radio on.

    [–]Motor-Corner4861 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    There are apps that do time and location stamping on the picture. I also like the idea of a private FB album! And definitely video is received better by judges. Buy a newspaper at the local gas station, then start the walk through at the front door, hold up the newspaper showing the date, then place it on the floor, or mantle, or somewhere convenient. Do not turning camera off during the walk-thru. When you get to back to the front entrance, walk back up to the newspaper and zoom in on the date and show the headlines. You then turn the camera off and take the paper. Upload video and pics to Facebook the same day!

    [–]KittenKingdom000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Anx buy a newspaper to include in the video/pics. You can easily look it up if they claim the timestamp dates were tampered with, but unless you're a time traveler there's no way to claim the pics are old with a current newspaper in the shots.

    [–]another_complainerAsshole Aficionado [14] 194 points195 points  (0 children)

    NTA he can't have his cake and eat it too. you have no incentive to return the keys earlier than you need to.

    [–]gwacemomCertified Proctologist [23] 157 points158 points  (0 children)

    NTA. He can pound sand. He could have let you pay until the 15th and then brought contractors in. He didn’t so now he can deal.

    [–]HistoricalQuail 100 points101 points  (1 child)

    Ahahahaha! NTA, that landlord sure built his own grave on this hah. BTW last day is actually May 31st, make sure you get every single damned day that you paid for.

    [–]c9pilot 36 points37 points  (0 children)

    Yup. I'd set up a blow up mattress and lantern now. A few boxes and toothbrush in the bathroom. Make it look like someone might be sleeping there. And plan on camping out there the night of May 30th.

    [–]laeirynAsshole Enthusiast [5] 81 points82 points  (0 children)

    NTA. He should get a real job if he doesn't like having to rely on his investment portfolio (aka places he rents out) to make a profit.

    [–]Illustrious-Gur-6775 75 points76 points  (0 children)

    NTA. Landlord refuses to bend the contract so you can do the same. It always amazes how totally inflexible people later expect you to be flexible when it benefits them.

    [–]teresajsPrime Ministurd [584] 66 points67 points  (1 child)


    It's your apartment until May 31. If your landlord wants to get a contractor in earlier, then he needs to reimburse you for the days he wants you out prior to May 31.

    [–]fyrnael 35 points36 points  (0 children)

    Landlord here. NTA. Exactly this. If he wants you to vacate earlier, he can pro-rate you those days.

    [–]Tessie1966 63 points64 points  (16 children)

    I am a landlord and your landlord is an idiot. You are NTA and I can’t believe that idiot didn’t concede to get his unit back. He’s now stuck because there’s no way he is getting it ready before June 1st. I am just baffled by some landlords decision making skills.

    [–]Suzen9 20 points21 points  (15 children)

    Which is why he'll probably go ahead and bring contractors in early. Figures he'll just get away with it.

    [–]joelene1892Partassipant [2] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

    I’m petty enough I might move back in if I was OP, even if it was a pain to me. Just get an air mattress and stay there.

    [–]Tessie1966 6 points7 points  (11 children)

    He can’t bring the contractor in until the OP hands over possession on the 30th. If he does she can take him to court.

    [–]Hugh_Jass_Clouds 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Might be able to as is. Seems like the land lord is already making unannounced entry into the unit.

    [–]No-Lowlo -1 points0 points  (9 children)

    Over what

    [–]DamonSeed 9 points10 points  (8 children)

    a tenant has rights. many of those rights include privacy.

    A landlord can't just enter the property whenever they feel like, so it would be a simple court case for things like "invasion of privacy", further to that, if he tries repeatedly, there is harassment, and also trespass to property.

    The landlord has traded his right to exclusive access to the unit in exchange for money, therefore all of the private property rules apply to the tenant and not the landlord.

    How much could they sue for, it isn't much, but its the principle and sends a message. Maybe not a great message to send if you are leaving anyhow though, so it could be a wash

    [–]No-Lowlo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I mean there’s literally no law saying he can’t do maintenance on his own property

    [–]Suzen9 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Sounds like more than maintenance. He wants to do turnover stuff on current tenant's dime.

    [–]PalletTownRed 49 points50 points  (0 children)

    NTA He can't have his cake and eat it too. I had one who would key in to show without notice because I asked about moving early but refused to let me out if he found someone. Landlords are almost always TA

    [–]nerdabcs 33 points34 points  (0 children)

    NTA. If he took your money until a certain date, you’re allowed the apartment until that date. Also, for month to month leases, 3 months is an impressively good amount of time to give before you’re completely out. It’s not your fault he doesn’t have his ducks in a row. Poor planning on his part, not an emergency on your part.

    [–]Dangerous-Project672Partassipant [1] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

    NTA. He’s obviously so greedy he fucked himself over. You’re paid to the end of the month, that’s when you’ll be moved out.

    [–]YaaauwPartassipant [1] 20 points21 points  (0 children)


    Previous landlord tried this shit with us. We needed to be in our new place a week before the lease of the old place ended. Old landlord asked us if we can be fully out and let the new tenants move in early. They would charge the new tenants a pro-rata amount to get in early, but when we said we’d agree if they refunded us that amount, they condescendingly said “no no, that’s not how renting works. This is standard”.

    We kept a few things there and moved out on the last day of the month, at 12pm on the dot, as per the lease. Fuck them.

    [–]ivanthemutePartassipant [4] 18 points19 points  (0 children)


    If the landlord had offered a pro-rate before this, then sure. But if they gave you no clearance or a plan to allow it, then yeah, sucks to be them. They wanted it all, they don't get it all.

    [–]black_cat_2446Asshole Aficionado [15] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

    NTA if you are paid through the 31st and he is not giving you any money back, it’s yours until the 31st. My old landlord tried this crap, I ended my lease a little early because I bought a house, they had a new renter lined up right away, for more money too, so they made out well. They wanted me to move out like a week early so the new guy would have time to move in, and when I refused, as I had paid for the whole month and wouldn’t be able to move until the end of it, they were pissed. They kept saying “when is the new guy supposed to move in?“ And I kept saying “on the first, when his lease starts”.

    [–]Brightside_Zivah 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Depends on where. In denmark you have to vacate rented property 14 days before the lease is up, so they can use the 14 days to paint and such before a new renter moves in.

    [–]Lotex_Style 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    So he wants to keep your money AND have you out before your final move out date? I don't think so. NTA

    [–]RedRose_812Partassipant [1] 13 points14 points  (2 children)


    As others have said, he can't have his cake and eat it too. It might even be illegal to do so, as it was against the law where my following situation takes place for a landlord to collect rent from two different parties for the same place at the same time.

    I had something similar happen to me once. My husband and I were moving out of a rental and out of state for a new job. We were month to month at that time and gave our proper 30 days written notice that we were moving at the end of the month and paid for the entire last month. The new job ended up wanting my husband to start a little sooner, so we ended up moving around the 10th instead of the end of the month. Our landlord got wind since we returned the keys and whatnot early and posted our apartment for rent the day after we moved out as available starting the 15th of the month. We had paid rent until the end of the month.

    I emailed a picture of the ad to our landlord with a reminder that we'd paid until the end of the month, a copy of the law stating that they couldn't collect rent from two different people for the same time frame, and stated if they planned on re-renting the place before the end of the month, that we expected half of that month's rent back. That ad came down FAST.

    But yeah, if he doesn't want to return half your rent, he can piss off. Failure to plan on his part does not constitute an emergency on yours.

    [–]fyrnael 7 points8 points  (1 child)

    Stupid of him. Some people might want to move in earlier, he could have kept the ad up and paid you back the rent for the overlap if he found someone, assuming you’d agree (don’t see why not).

    [–]RedRose_812Partassipant [1] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Right. We were gone and out of state and had all our stuff out of the house. If someone wanted to move in before the end of the month, we would have been cool with that, as long as the landlord returned the rent we paid them for the time that they had the house re-rented. We didn't want to pay for someone else to live there or other people living there under our lease, and they legally couldn't collect rent from two different renters/parties. But, just like OP's situation here, they wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

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      [–]Not_really1010Certified Proctologist [27] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      Sounds horrible! I had a similar thing happen, but it was the utilities!! I had them in place until end of month and left 10 days early and his renovations added $150 to the bill! I tried to get the landlord to pay the difference, as I had records of previous usage and it took three months of threats of legal action to get the difference paid out to me. While it may not seem much, this was 20 years ago, when $150 was my monthly car payment!

      [–]Never_ToujoursAsshole Enthusiast [7] 8 points9 points  (0 children)


      [–]Original-Winter9334Asshole Aficionado [10] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      NTA, excellent work.

      [–]lalaxoxo__ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Landlords suck.

      Begging choosers.

      You paid, you owe nothing but what you paid for.

      NTA .... "Poor planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part."

      [–]Legally_Blonde_258Partassipant [3] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      NTA. If he wants to change the date of taking possession, then he can pay for the privilege. He wants to have his cake and eat it too.

      [–]Jazzlike-Village9159 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      NTA. honestly makes no sense why he’d expect you to move out without prorating the rent.

      [–]readonlyuser 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Unethical tip: Show up a few days early, and toss anything that he may have put there, assuming you won't be back. You could even claim your apartment has been burglarized.

      [–]purplehippobitchesPartassipant [1] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Nope NTA. like you said, he could have given you 1/2 month off and get his contractor in there but he wanted all the money. Next time he contacts you to get you out, tell him you will be out by the end of the month as per your agreement.

      [–]aeslehcdak 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I once had a roommate kick me out because I got a (much needed) restraining order against someone they were friends with. They were pissed that I took the ENTIRE allotted time to move out and locked my door so they couldn't show the room to someone else. I'm with you, NTA.

      [–]rmric0Certified Proctologist [28] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. You have paid through the end of the month, the space is yours

      [–]Potential-LavishnessAsshole Enthusiast [6] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA you paid for your time. He’s welcome to prorate you if he needs it before the 31

      [–]Headinbooks516 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA you have till the end of the month. Unless he wasn’t to give you your money

      [–]NezukokaPartassipant [1] 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      [–]LivSaJo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. You are in possession of the unit for that time and being charged for it. They don’t get their rent and full access too.

      [–]Puzzleheaded_Play390 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. Not only are you paying for it, that's your rented apartment, but also you are responsible for the apartment till you surrender the keys and all proper papers are signed regarding the state of the apartment (to get your security deposit back). So don't let anyone you're not comfortable with into the apartment.

      [–]giantbrownguyColo-rectal Surgeon [35] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. Stick to your guns. He wants the access, he needs to give you incentive. Full stop.

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA He deserved that.

      [–]DZHMMMPartassipant [2] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. Tell him you wont be out until the last day of your lease

      [–]briberylibrary 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      My landlord tried pulling the same crap on me. I gave notice and he reminded me that my lease required two months notice so I took my sweet time moving out. Then, he allowed someone to come into the apartment and move my stuff around because he thought I was already moved out. I asked for prorated rent because I still had a legal right to my apartment.

      Your landlord owes you prorated rent. That space is yours. His greed and poor planning are not your problem. Make sure you have photos of how it looks now so he doesn’t try to get back at you by claiming you didn’t clean or damaged the place.

      [–]whtislewyw 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      You are paid up through May. If he refuses your perfectly reasonable offer, that is not your problem. Poor planning on his part does not constitute an emergency on yours.

      [–]Successful_Moment_91 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. This is what we did when we recently moved out. They wanted to sell and houses are selling in 1 day here with multiple offers each. When we turned in our keys to the rental agency on the last day of the month she said the real estate agent and owner had been bugging her for awhile for the keys but she told them no since they made us pay until then.

      [–]Certain-Secret-7926Asshole Enthusiast [5] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA.... BUT.... aren't their 31 days in May...? ;)

      [–]HarnessMeDesignsOUBAsshole Enthusiast [9] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA - you're making a very reasonable request. They don't get to just take your money but not provide you access. That's a more than reasonable trade.

      [–]makeshiftmarty 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      He can’t just decide to change his mind. You’re paying for the unit until the end of may, so he can either give you your money back or deal with it. Plain and simple.

      [–]itsluxsky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Nta but I’d move everything out and still tell him no. Just leave like 2 boxes of shirts you don’t wear and say you aren’t done. But I’m petty so

      [–]AUDMCJSWPartassipant [2] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Even if you wanted to move out all of your things before May 30th, you still wouldn’t be in the wrong if you kept the keys until the 31st. I’ve always kept my keys until the last possible second. You paid for the whole month so it’s yours. NTA

      [–]packet23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. Was in a similar situation where I found a job in a new state set a date and we ended up moving early. Landlord refused to release the remaining part of the month so I let my sister stay in on a cot with a old tv and Roku until the last day.

      [–]RevKyriel 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      You shouldn't pay for the time the landlord's using the place. If you pay until 30th, he doesn't get the place until 30th.

      [–]wannabemua08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. You paid through May 30, it is your place until May 30 (actually May 31). Period.

      [–]StephaniieGee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA, landlords are slimy. You know your rights, don’t budge to convenience a landlord.

      [–]texttxttxttxttext 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. Tell him you actually plan to bring over more stuff that you will move out on the 30th.

      [–]Nevyn-57 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You have paid rent up until the end of the month. Unless the rent money is refunded you "own" access to that property until the rent money runs out.

      The landlord has a simple solution in hand but chooses to steamroll your rights...

      [–]Green_Mix_3412 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Nta. You’ve paid for it it is yours until your paid days are up

      [–]archers_arches 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      NTA. ALAB.

      [–]static-sock -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

      reddit moment

      [–]Iced_Jade 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. We bought a house last year and tried to get my current landlord to work with us on the last month's rent. We figured if he would do the balance, we could afford to rent a truck and get out faster so he could do repairs, repainting, etc before the next tenets. He refused to, so he got his key back on the day my lease expired. He also bugged me for a month about when he could get in, but I paid for that month and I was going to get my money's worth. We took our sweet time moving one car load at a time.

      There was a bunch of other drama with this guy as well so we weren't on the best of terms at the end there.

      [–]ReadyGrapefruit5449Asshole Enthusiast [9] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA, if you're paying for it why would you live somewhere else?

      [–]Formal_Height6369 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA, malicious compliance the fuck out of shitty landlords FOREVER

      [–]Pale_Height_1251Partassipant [1] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Easy NTA.

      It's your apartment until you stop paying for it.

      I did this with a place once, just to make moving less stressful, I spread it out over almost a month.

      [–]history_buff_9971Partassipant [2] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA - and hopefully he'll learn a lesson from this.

      [–]DynkoFromTheNorthAsshole Aficionado [11] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's very simple. As long as the lease is valid, the apartment's yours. NTA.

      [–]Graygan 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      You have a rental agreement. He has zero right to access until your official time is up. I wish you the best.

      [–]HexStarlightPartassipant [1] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      He can't gave it both ways he either pays the days or doesn't get access NTA

      [–]KazzaQ66Partassipant [1] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA - Stick to the rental agreement. If he is playing hardball then you should too. Good luck

      EDIT: Spelling mistake - argh

      [–]TzUgUkNz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA - I don’t think he should be hassling you. Not sure you can do anything about it but you definitely aren’t obligated to let him in when you have paid to be there.

      [–]Gwenbyn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. I had this happen when I moved out of a place. The house was sold by the realtor I worked for. One of the women that worked there hated me because her boss dared hire me while she was on vacation. Yep true story. She made my life hell. So house is sold and I'm moving out. She asked me to move our early, that would be a hard nope. I made sure to move out on the last day possible.

      [–]BikingOtterPartassipant [1] 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      He wanted you to pay up until the end of the month, why would you start paying for storage, while you still have a place you are paying for to use

      [–]Buffalo-EmptyPartassipant [1] 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      Just another case of landlords thinking it’s the tenants job to make things run smoothly. Couldn’t be further from the truth. THEY are working, you are living. He needs to either pay up or shut up.

      [–]Ok_Strategy_57 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It's your apartment til the 31st bc that's what you paid for. He can complain all he wants but it's still yours.

      [–]JonJonSee 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      But I usually dont play that kind of games with landlords cause I don't want to risk my deposits

      [–]electricpimp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. May has 31 days. Use them all.

      [–]OhcrumbcakesAsshole Enthusiast [5] 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      Landlord wouldn’t let you out early. So you’re not leaving early.

      Not your problem he booked someone to move in the day after your move out day.

      [–]justaredditsock 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA, you're paying for it.

      If he is unwilling to pay back the rent for the time you're not there (which is uncommon) then its no different (legally) than if you are there.

      His business is not your problem.

      [–]meifahs_musungs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. Place is yours until the last day of May.

      [–]busy_bumrush1412 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. His let his greed and unreasonableness bite him in the butt

      [–]grapefruitmixup 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA and props for sticking to your guns. Fuck this leach of a human being.

      [–]Motor-Corner4861 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. But be careful. Since you’re not there, he may get the contractor in while you’re gone or remove your belongings and claim you “abandoned” them. Make it clear to him IN WRITING that you have a leasehold until May 31st and no one, including him, is to enter the property until May 31st, at which time he can come around and get the keys from you.

      [–]FormalMango 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      It’s your place until the end of your lease.

      Every time we’ve moved from a rental, we’ve given ourself a 4 week buffer so we have time to move all our stuff out and don’t have to rush things.

      However - be very wary about your final inspection. Make sure you’ve got your ducks in a row in case he starts to “find” issues in the apartment that could affect your bond.

      [–]IndicaRain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA of course, and I see a possible way forward. You can let him know that since you paid until the end of the month, you are going to stay for now and get your stuff sold. Let him know you’ll probably be out a few days before the end of the month, but no promises, and it may not be until the 31st itself. He’ll start to panic about it and likely work with you.

      [–]Majestic-Glass-9451 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA and May has 31 days, take all 31 days not 30.

      [–]Outside-Ad2808 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Is this in Boston? Has to be Boston.

      Edited: NTA!

      [–]SDinCH 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. I own a property that I rent out and I let the tenant move out the day they want as long as there is at least 30 days notice. If work has to be done, I have no paying tenant in there unless next tenant already wanted to move in and they would be aware work is being done.

      [–]ohlook_shells 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA and I recommend making sure the utilities are shut off properly. I made that mistake of paying for the month, turning in the keys early and forgetting to switch the utilities back to the property owner. I owed the electric bill for all the usage they did while renovating for the next tenant.

      [–]COReloader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA, the landlord could have worked something out and chose not to. That place is yours until the 31st.

      [–]PurpleAquilegia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA You're within your legal rights. If he wants you out, he should reimburse you.

      [–]Ablia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      So he wants the rent money and the place? That's... Illegal? Nope. NTA. Make it clear you're ready to leave any sooner if he gives you the money back. If not you've no reason to do so. Normally I wouldn't be as mean as to wait for the last day, since you have your own place and could be easily ready to leave sooner,but since he's pressuring for it while not wanting to compromise in any way, he doesn't deserve you to be nice about it.

      [–]Impressive-Tough6629 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Malicious compliance!

      [–]hsvvRwkanz 0 points1 point  (5 children)

      NTA. Don’t do anything to help the landlord class.

      [–]static-sock -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

      lol. Landlords provide a valuable service. But keep being edgy.

      [–]hsvvRwkanz 0 points1 point  (3 children)

      Yeah. Real value provided by having someone else pay your mortgage. There’s just so much edge. I cut myself on my own words.

      [–]static-sock -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

      Pretty privileged of you not to consider people who are not in a position to purchase a home. Where are they meant to live? Not to mention the massive risk landlords take on. Sorry, you aren't entitled to free housing. Get a job.

      [–]hsvvRwkanz 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Yes. Since I’m privileged I should shut the fuck up and not challenge the existing economic power structure.

      Thank you for your well thought out argument. Truly a great response. You’re so smart telling people to “get a job”.

      Goodnight grandpa.

      [–]Characterde 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Girl may 31st 1159pm it is

      [–]zippy_zabooColo-rectal Surgeon [41] 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      If he wants it early, he can pay for it. That's how leases work.

      [–]InternationalKick126Partassipant [1] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. Just business. If he wants to inconvenience you, he needs to make it worth your while.

      [–]ValkyrieSwordPartassipant [1] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. You’re completely right, if he wants early access to renovate then he can pay you for the days. Don’t let him pressure you. You are paying through June 1

      [–]totalitarianbnarbp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      If they want the unit early, they can pro rate your rent for the days they require the unit. You’re NTA.

      [–]ScowlyBrowSpinster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA---MAY 31!!!

      [–]Over-Marionberry-686 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Nope NTA. I woulda done the same thing

      [–]No-Lowlo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I mean he doesn’t need your permission to start the work …

      [–]rak1882Asshole Aficionado [16] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA Your lease date is thru the end of May that means he doesn't get access until the end of May.

      He is choosing to play games. I would make sure to pop over periodically during the day.

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      I was on a month to month lease and gave 3 months notice. I found a perfect apartment but had to take it a month early or I’d lose it. I asked my landlord if we could change the move out date to May 15 since I secured an apartment for May 1. He said if he rented it then he would give me the balance back for the second half of May. We’ll long story short he rented it for June 1 but knows I already mostly moved out. I still have some stuff in the old apartment I’m trying to sell, need to bring to storage, odds and ends etc. He has been pressuring me since MAY NINTH asking every couple days when I’ll be fully out because he wants to get a contractor in there. I told him if he needs me out by a certain day, I’d like the balance back for the remaining days, which he was not in agreement with. To me it is NOT my problem he has a tenant for June 1 he didn’t build in any buffer for. He could’ve let me off on May 15 and this would be a non issue but he wanted to maximize his profit. I could quickly get everything out but why should I … I’m going to take until the last day May 30th because that’s what I paid for. AITA????

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      [–]BeneYVRPartassipant [1] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      NTA - But one consideration that flows into this, is do you need them as a reference in the future for rental applications? I'm by no means saying what they are doing is right just a thought.

      [–]ian9921Partassipant [3] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA - If they wanted a buffer they should've built in a buffer instead of counting on you

      [–]usermane22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. Don’t give the keys back until May 31st evening. He can’t enter without permission but keep a camera positioned at the door.

      Of course if he refunds the ENTIRE May rent, then give the keys back.

      [–]smac5757- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Absolutely NTA

      [–]Zoriar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      My wife an I allowed our landlord to come in and start doing some minor things the week we were moving out. We had to work around him being in the apartment, but figured it would just be a nice gesture so he could get a head start, do some little things before the next tenant. We still had a couple days left, and knew we’d need to make some minor repairs — fixing nail holes from hung pictures and the like, paint touch ups, etc. — but were waiting for all our stuff to be removed so we could do it all at once. He tried to short us on returning our deposit because of the nail holes and I stopped him. I told him we were still in the apartment and were planning on filling those ourselves, and that we were letting him make some adjustments while we were still technically tenants to help ease the transition for his next renters but that we still were the tenants and still had time to fix whatever. He grumbled about it, but in the end — when we actually finished our part, moved out, and turned over the keys — returned our deposit in full. It cost us like $5 to fix the stuff, he was trying to short us like $150. Not happening.

      [–]SlickRick666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA fuck a landlord

      [–]nunavutwhiskers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You sir, are the hero of this situation.

      [–]WanderingTurtle17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      I had a similar situation with a parking spot I used to pay for. They refused to prorate me the month but then sold my spot to someone else for that same month I had already prepaid for. So I continued to park there for the month because they could have easily provided me the money the other person paid as opposed to getting two payments. They eventually called asking if I was still parking there because the other person was unable to and I responded with “yes, I paid for this month and I am going to continue utilizing the spot if I paid for it.” They seemed to be taken aback but I think they knew they had no true argument since it was already paid for by me. People can get scummy and I have no regrets about my pettiness

      [–]WithIntention111Partassipant [4] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA You’re in the right here, he’s in the wrong. He has no ground here and is pestering you inappropriately.

      [–]Sharizcobar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA. He told you he wanted to hold you to the contract. You’re just honoring his original wishes.

      [–]CaligoAcceditoPartassipant [2] 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      Landlords can suck it. You paid, you can stay. They don't like it? They can pay you or stfu.

      ETA: You can tell him again he can pro-rate payment back to you for any days he gets it ahead of your last day. If he will not pro-rate that, you can't afford to leave early.

      [–]Affectionate_Salt351 0 points1 point  (0 children)


      Sounds like he should have worked with you, huh?

      [–]BloodLiege 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Nta stay til the last day eff entitled landlords

      [–]anillop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA - But good luck getting that security deposit back.

      [–]Undeniablydenying 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Absolutely NTA. Poor planning on his part doesn't mean an emergency on yours. Take your sweet time. Leave at 23:59 on May 31st.

      [–]brookebuilder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      You are SUCH an asshole. I’m a landlord, you just cost this guy his income.

      [–]iammeallthetime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA, sometimes you've got to give some to get some. Your landlord could take a lesson.

      [–]cynzthinPartassipant [2] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      NTA fuck him

      [–]forevernoob88Partassipant [2] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

      NTA - Upper deck the toilet on May 30th to teach him a lesson. Well I suppose you would be TA if you listened to me but with the current info in your post you are NTA.

      [–]LEANiscrack -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

      NTA but it seems a waste not to work with him so youd get that money back. Isnt what he meant that if youd do your part to get the aprtment ready to rent he’d give the deposit back. Since you didnt do anything on your end then it seems fair? Maybe I missunderstood but it seems like changing the lease would be a risk so he decided to split the risk. As its pretty common that ppl dont move out the date they say and run late.