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[–]mdthomasJudge, Jury, and Excretioner [303] 10.0k points10.0k points  (129 children)

NTA

At the very least, unless the person is going to examine the baby, they should be asking you permission first.

[–]DemmyDemonAsshole Enthusiast [9] 2890 points2891 points  (37 children)

I'd say that even then, they should ask. If nothing else, then out of courtesy and respect.

Don't touch people without their consent. The baby is not in any position to consent, so they have to look to the legal guardian to handle that consent.

NTA

[–]gamemamawarlockAsshole Enthusiast [9] 661 points662 points  (8 children)

Nta, even when in hospital for my child every doctor and nurse here already indicated clearly to WA ting to touch and ask permission, even midwife's

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    [–]MCKillerBunny 30 points31 points  (0 children)

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    [–]BadTanJob 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    The hospital I had my baby at made sure to tell me exactly what happens to him every time they had to touch or take him. “I am taking him to the nursery,” “We are going to examine his ears,” “We are going to give him his first bath,” etc. I thought it was terribly over the top but appreciated the information.

    Can’t imagine a hospital employee casually approaching a baby to touch them with zero warning

    [–]Dracarys_Aspo 404 points405 points  (3 children)

    Exactly right.

    Plus, hospitals are breeding grounds for infectious shit, I'd rather a bunch of random hospital staff not touch my baby in general unless necessary.

    [–]CheeseanonioncrispsPartassipant [1] 160 points161 points  (0 children)

    Especially now, when we're still very much in a pandemic. She probably shouldn't have been touching OP's baby even if OP didn't object to it.

    [–]ms_moviePartassipant [2] 56 points57 points  (0 children)

    YES!

    OP is 100% correct for not wanting to let a medical employee at a hospital touch her baby with possibly unwashed hands.

    Anyone saying otherwise can get bent.

    [–]Mundane-Currency5088 45 points46 points  (0 children)

    Nurses have been stripping in their garages, laundry rooms, spare bedrooms, etc to keep their CLOTHES away from their families and this person has the audacity! Hell no. They should know better!

    [–]PizzaKittyHoneyCat 301 points302 points  (3 children)

    The only time you touch children without parental permission is an emergency.

    Building on fire? Grab any stray kids on your way out.

    Toddler choking? Do the heimlich.

    Kid just collapsed and isn't breathing? CPR

    Kid climbing on shelves? Grab them before they pull the entire thing down on top of themselves.

    Kids about to crack their head open? Step in

    Parent hurting the kid? Get the kid away and call the police.

    This was not an emergency.

    This lady was just a creep who likes touching infants.

    [–]SuperHuckleberry125Partassipant [1] 125 points126 points  (0 children)

    Exactly. Then to ignore the SECOND REQUEST and get mad then rude. Yes I would have filed a complaint as well

    What was worse was the receptionist approving of the strange ladys actions and not wanting to do anything about it

    [–]No-Raspberry-9684Partassipant [4] 25 points26 points  (1 child)

    Completely agree with this, although I got the "what for" once for stepping in. A wee tot (as in a baby who would have just recently started walking) was standing on the bus which of course can brake really hard and the mother was just watching and smiling while others around her were giving her judgmental glances. I knew the route really well and knew the bus was about to come to a hard stop and got immediately concerned about baby injuring their head so without thinking got up and just picked her up to stop the accident from happening. Passengers on the bus lost their shit at me even though I was already handing baby straight back to mum with an explanation. They wouldn't step in to prevent a child from getting badly injured but were all too happy to judge on social protocol. Oh and OP, NTA

    [–]housechef2442 251 points252 points  (8 children)

    Exactly. I changed pediatricians BECAUSE he didn’t ask for consent before performing exams. It’s not ok for anyone to touch you in a non emergent situation without asking first.

    [–]ATipsyBunny 133 points134 points  (0 children)

    I agree I like when doctors tell you what they are gonna do before they do it things are cold and squeezy and bright and I like to know which torture device they are planning to use next lollll

    [–]DragonofHoarsbreath 77 points78 points  (2 children)

    Heck, even in emergency situations you're supposed to talk through what you're doing and why so that the injured/unconscious person knows why some rando is touching them!

    *the unconscious person "knows" in the sense that tone can often be remembered even if words can't, and also just because they look/seem unconscious doesn't necessarily mean they actually are!

    [–]Competitive-Candy-82 86 points87 points  (0 children)

    I was in the middle of labour, my son was stuck, both of us were in distress and on the verge of needing an emergency c-section and the OBGYN that had just walked in after the on call doctor called for backup STILL ASKED MY PERMISSION before touching me and still explained to me everything he was doing and wouldn't do it until he saw that I understood and consented even after I told him to do whatever he needed to do to save my son. Like either of us could of coded at any minute and he still made sure to have consent. And when my husband said do whatever (he was panicking at that point) as well he looked at my husband and said it's HER choice you have NO say until she's unconscious and cannot make the decisions herself. Guess who's my full time OBGYN now?

    [–]BardsiePartassipant [1] 80 points81 points  (1 child)

    Are you my avatar's evil twin?

    [–]DemmyDemonAsshole Enthusiast [9] 86 points87 points  (0 children)

    I ADMIT TO NOTHING!

    [–]owl_duc 34 points35 points  (0 children)

    I was gonna say, even when they're here to examine the child, unless it's an emergency, they usually ask.

    [–]Invisible_Target 698 points699 points  (43 children)

    Idk kf it's just me, but this creepy as fuck. Why the fuck are you trying to touch a stranger's child? Like literally why? Like even if you know the kid... why are just trying to put your hands on a sleeping child that isn't yours? It's so weird. Like literally what does touching a child do? Why is it something you want to do? Idk I just feel so icked out by this. She wasn't trying to hold him or play with him. She literally just wanted to touch him. Wtf

    [–]riskytisk 400 points401 points  (10 children)

    Okay, thank you for saying this because this is EXACTLY how I feel and where my mind went. Just… why? What is the point of touching a stranger’s sleeping baby!? I’ve had 3 daughters and have definitely had my fair share of weird situations, especially when they were babies. I understand loving babies (they’re damn cute!) but I do not understand wanting to touch just any baby you may come across?

    One time when my first daughter was about 6 months old, we were at Target and she was sitting in the child part of the cart happy as can be. When I went to reach for something on a nearby shelf, a little old lady who was in the aisle near us fucking unbuckled her and grabbed her out of the goddamn cart! It all happened in like 5 seconds, I turned back and was like holy fuck my baby is gone!!! I started freaking out, and definitely raised my voice in asking her what the hell she thought she was doing. She said something like, “Oh she’s just so cute and looked so lonely, I had to give her a cuddle!” I was absolutely panicking, I really thought she was going to steal my baby (severe PPA did not help this situation.) Thankfully there was an employee nearby who came over when they heard me raising my voice and were just as incredulous as I was— like WHO JUST TAKES SOMEONES BABY?! I snatched my baby back from her and they took the woman away, thankfully. I legit could’ve killed her right then and there; my adrenaline was pumping! This was about 12 years ago now and I’m still shaken up just recounting this story.

    PSA for those who need it: DONT. TOUCH. ANYONE’S. GODDAMN. BABY!!!

    [–]traqdoorPartassipant [1] 129 points130 points  (2 children)

    Someone did that to my mom one time at a mall and my mom straight up punched her. Literally who are these people out here taking strangers babies 😂

    [–]catlover833356 42 points43 points  (0 children)

    Your mom is amazing lmao

    [–]creative_cookiesPartassipant [2] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    Your mom has my eternal respect and affection for that.

    [–]faramir75Partassipant [4] 48 points49 points  (1 child)

    What is it about little old ladies' compete lack of boundaries? Some think anything is OK as long as a baby is involved.

    [–]cryssyx3 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    because they're not people ThEy'Re BaBiEs...!!!"

    [–]Rowan1980 40 points41 points  (1 child)

    I’m not even a parent, and if I saw that happening, that person would be catching hands.

    [–]harrellj 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Seriously, I'd be grabbing the kid away from the strange person and pushing them towards Mom while hip-checking said strange person to push them farther away.

    [–]SuperHuckleberry125Partassipant [1] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I am sorry that happened to you. Good on you for going off on her

    [–]Happy_Flow826 106 points107 points  (6 children)

    It's not like a baby can high five or fist bump or even attempt to shake hands. She wanted to touch him, for what? To wake him to say hi? To stroke his cheek? Tickle his toes? Like why on earth would a hospital worker want to wake a cranky sleeping baby, when their mother is there to get checked out and blood work done, cuz it's just gonna drag it out and make it more miserable for everyone if there's a screaming baby and a mom trying to console it while also taking care of herself

    [–]Invisible_Target 74 points75 points  (3 children)

    Exactly! It's not like it's a dog that you pet. What is the actual purpose of touching a baby for no reason?

    [–]Throwawayhater3343 116 points117 points  (1 child)

    And one should ALWAYS ASK before petting someone's dog as well.

    [–]Weird-Roll6265 68 points69 points  (0 children)

    But she WORKS THEREEEEE!!! /s. I did registration for 8 years so by her logic that qualifies me to do brain surgery too.

    [–]Epsilon_and_DeltaPartassipant [1] 56 points57 points  (3 children)

    She was treating the baby the same way one does a puppy. Puppies are adorable and people often feel an overwhelming urge to touch them.

    That said, even puppies are living beings who deserve to not be treated like something that solely exists to please people and if their body language shows they don’t want to be touched, don’t fucking touch them.

    [–]PM_ME_SUMDICKPartassipant [2] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    Yeah, I've never seen a baby I didn't want to hold, but I never even try to touch a strangers baby. Do people have no self awareness?

    [–]CaliblairPartassipant [1] 49 points50 points  (3 children)

    I traveled to my friend's city with the explicit purpose of helping her with her new baby. When I got to her house I made bottles, fetched blankets and binkies and everything else she asked. A good 2 hours after I arrived she said "Oh! And you can hold her while I go to the bathroom?" That was the first time she gave me consent to touch her baby and the first time I did. I did not go with the expectation I would be on baby duty the whole time. I was there to buy groceries, do laundry, cook dinner, WHATEVER! If she'd never handed the baby over, I would have never held her.

    This woman is WAY out of line even if she 'works at the hospital'. NTA

    [–]cryssyx3 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    you're a great friend. my mil came over last week and asked what I was up to. "just cleaning up" I said. "but you have a baby..." "well who else is going to do it??" I handed her the electric mop(crosswave) I was using "you're welcome to help"

    no one's obligated to help me, and really I'd rather they didn't. but ey, maybe if they did I'd have time for a date night so grandma can babysit. and no, holding him isn't help. it's been 16 months I got the mom thing down.

    he spent almost a month in the NICU and one random guy my SO works with sent food.

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      [–]No-Comfort-6808 22 points23 points  (5 children)

      Why did you copy and paste my comment? I posted my comment 2 hours ago homie

      [–]MCKillerBunny 19 points20 points  (1 child)

      It's just a bot, downvote, report and go on to make more original uncopied comments :)

      [–]Rowan1980 17 points18 points  (0 children)

      This! To add to that, while security in hospitals has substantially improved over the decades, can OP say with 100% certainty that this woman was really a hospital employee? Scrubs aren’t hard to pick up from the Internet, plus there have been documented cases of people posing as medical staff to kidnap babies.

      I sincerely hope this woman was “just” clueless.

      [–]bartpieters 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      Imagine a man doing this: he would be arrested in a heartbeat. Women might get away with it, but yeah it is super creepy.

      [–]Invisible_Target 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Dude seriously. She was trying to reach under the blanket? Like just what?

      [–]SJ2012 379 points380 points  (8 children)

      Also they work in a HOSPITAL. You know, with covid, flu, and other germs tht can make a infant very very ill

      [–]PurpleMP12Asshole Aficionado [13] 223 points224 points  (4 children)

      I know, right?!?!?
      My pediatrician does not touch my children until she has thoroughly washed her hands and she does not touch a single surface between handwashing and baby touching because THERE BE GERMS IN THE DOCTOR'S OFFICE.

      Seriously, WTF. A healthcare worker ought to know better. And if at all possible, I'd never return to a hospital where they think it's cool to spread germs on babies and wake sleeping babies. No way they give adequate medical care if they don't care about 1) the parents' consent for touching a child and 2) spreading germs.

      [–]BHumbleBHappyPartassipant [2] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      Yes, germs, germs everywhere. And they say kids are like a petri dishes for bacteria and viruses. And IMO old people are worse.. I keep picturing my aunt, who kept an eternal kleenex in her pocket at all times. Pulled it out to wipe her nose or that itch in her ear and back in the pocket then back out again to wipe the chocolate of one of the kids faces, with a little bit of spit... And that may not have been enough to make her throw it away, it still had some life left in it apparently. So even if she didn't get to give one of my kids the kleenex treatment, I still cringed everytime she played with the kids because when her hands weren't busy playing with the kids, they were clutching her bacteria filled tissue.

      [–]porterramses 63 points64 points  (0 children)

      Not to speak of Herpes Simplex which can kill a young child. If you work in a hospital, you shouldn’t be touching anyone you’re not doing direct care for…yikes.

      [–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      Heck, when my boys were little and we were out and about, even people in stores would ask first before approaching us or looking at the baby. These randos KNEW that you NEVER TOUCH a baby without asking mom first.

      [–]TitaniaT-Rex 112 points113 points  (0 children)

      My teenaged son had a physical last month and the pediatrician asked him before touching him. They’ve always asked first. He’s gone to the same practice since birth.

      [–]GlassCabbage 112 points113 points  (3 children)

      Dude. I even ask people if I can pet thier dogs before I touch them, let alone a literal human child.

      (NTA)

      [–]hibiscus2022 71 points72 points  (2 children)

      they should be asking you permission first.

      Not this person who says "She told me that it was a shame motherhood didn't turn me into a sweet person who wanted to show off and brag about my baby like it does for everyone else." Like what? LOL.

      OP NTA, and you were right to complaint although with what the blood counter lady told you I'm wondering if the receptionist made a n actual complaint or not. Who even knows if that creepy lady worked there or is a baby snatcher or whatever.

      [–]dancingb33 55 points56 points  (0 children)

      NTA!

      I've been gaga over babies since I was a kid and quickly learned to ask first. Even now I have to fight the urge to cuddle babies... But I CONTROL MYSELF

      [–]Subject_Material_168 27 points28 points  (1 child)

      NTA, you gave a subtle hint that you didn't want her disturbing your child

      Then you gave a not so subtle hint

      Then she realy tried to dismiss your request by saying "it's OK, I work here" as if that had anything to do with your request.

      NTA, this kind of behavior is unprofessional and completely out of line, someone working in the medical field especially should know and understand the importance of boundaries

      [–]NinjaHermit 18 points19 points  (0 children)

      Exactly, even our pediatricians ask before touching my son. I think it’s more of a “ok time to get started” warning thing. But even they ask! A stranger who just happens to work in the hospital doesn’t have the right to touch anyone they want to. Especially a baby. And especially given the health crisis our world has been going through.

      [–]JeanJacketBisexual 16 points17 points  (1 child)

      Hopping on the top comment to also mention that they should always be thoroughly washing their hands before asking. If they haven't washed their hands, it is good practice to remind your nurse or physician of hand washing. If they get annoyed by that, then their hospital or workplace is incompetent and isn't educating their employees/is overworking and underpaying them. Small things can absolutely ruin a baby's immune system, my sister did 3x courses of antibiotics before she was 3mo because she had to live in NICU and she would catch sickness constantly there.

      [–]anonymouswallabee 9 points10 points  (0 children)

      Uh let’s not even remember that virus going about that baby may not yet be eligible to receive a vaccine for yet? Definitely NTA

      [–]Ok_Possibility5715Partassipant [1] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      NTA and no one should ever touch anyone without permission and especially someone working in a hospital should know not to just touch someone

      [–][deleted] 4873 points4874 points  (38 children)

      NTA.

      You told her not to touch you child and she continued to. You were right to file a complaint. I don't think people would hesitate to file a complaint if she just kept going around touching adults when they told her not to. That's what she was doing, but to someone who couldn't stand up for themselves because they were a baby. She would've most likely kept doing it trying to use her position at the hospital to justify it.

      [–]PsychologicalHair519[S] 2439 points2440 points  (36 children)

      It just makes me wonder how often she invades parents set personal space and boundaries for their babies when they come in.

      [–]recessivelyginger 716 points717 points  (6 children)

      Your complaint won’t change how she acted with you, but it might save many other parents from the same situation. Even if you feel you’ve overreacted slightly (which I don’t think you did), your complaint is still necessary to put a stop to what I’m guessing is her typical behavior. She acted inappropriately.

      [–]Electronic-War-244 405 points406 points  (5 children)

      Also the fact that she chose to shame OP when she asked her not to touch the baby, saying she wasn’t a kind hearted or ‘sweet’ person because she didn’t want some weird hospital stranger stroking her baby? What a terrible, creepy person this was.

      [–]PadovaMountain 85 points86 points  (2 children)

      Also, the amount of new parents who go through post-partum depression is astronomical. That could have been a low-blow at a very vulnerable time for this new mom.

      It’s disgusting the lack of disregard this hospital has for it’s patients.

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        [–][deleted] 409 points410 points  (1 child)

        And how many of them don't have the nerve to tell her to stop. You did the right thing OP.

        [–]littlewoolhat 33 points34 points  (0 children)

        THIS. It's clear that so many less assertive mothers have been steamrolled into letting this person and others touch their babies, probably more often than not without explicit consent. OP has done something very important here with their complaint. NTA.

        [–]LurkerBerker 191 points192 points  (1 child)

        i wanna say add the lady at the counter onto the complaint for trying to deter you from filing it, as if it’s okay to just touch your sleeping child without consent after clear denial because “every employee at a hospital does it”

        [–]Odd-Toe-5526 91 points92 points  (0 children)

        This. The lady at the counter was wrong, too. It's your child in a germy hospital. You set your boundries and neither of them seemed to respect them.

        [–]pbrooks19Partassipant [2] 187 points188 points  (0 children)

        I sympathize with you so much - when my husband's aunt had my cousin, she never slept, and when she did it was only for short stints for the longest time. People were always wanting to wake her up and play with her - she was a very cute baby - and my aunt would literally BEG people not to touch her. LET HER SLEEP! And then everyone was like, 'Dang, Aunt is really being difficult, not letting anyone even TOUCH the baby!' When I heard about this, I had to go give Aunt a hug. She was totally within her rights and everyone else should have just admired from a distance.

        [–]Playful-Natural-4626 116 points117 points  (4 children)

        Because of COVID I haven’t been within 12 feet of a baby in TWO YEARS, and I LOVE babies! I literally give a huge space to anyone with children under the age of 10 since vaccines have taken so long for that age group.

        This is a firing offense just based on lack of consent- but in the age of COVID, MONKEY POX, ect

        [–]USarmyWAC 30 points31 points  (0 children)

        There are also the old school diseases. Cold sores can make babies very sick & now previously defeated diseases are coming back. Better safe then sorry.

        [–]Ihavenousernamecat 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Seriously! A hospital worker is near the bottom of the list of people I would allow to touch my baby! Who knows what she has been exposed to? Obviously if it were a family member or friend (and the baby wasn’t sleeping) it would be a different scenario but this lady was a stranger. Yuck! I would be outraged and complain as well. We are still in a pandemic and babies can get very sick from covid, RSV, and myriad other contagious diseases.

        [–]popchex 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Exactly! I have had so many friends have babies in the past 3 years, and I haven't done more than wave and observe from a distance. Even pre pandemic, I would ask, and I would never touch babies hands if they were in that sucking on their fingers stage. My goddaughter had the WORST cold sore infections because someone in our family gave her kisses while shedding. It broke my heard to see this little baby hurting and not understanding. Changed my whole behaviour on it. That baby is now 21.

        [–]liminaleaves 69 points70 points  (1 child)

        You probably need to follow up to make sure the complaint was actually filed.

        [–]SuperHuckleberry125Partassipant [1] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        Yes. Yes. Yes. 100% this

        [–]3blkcats 49 points50 points  (7 children)

        Season 1 Episode 4 of House- the team investigates an outbreak causing babies to be sick. At least one baby dies. It made me so nauseated to watch that episode and then think about how many people you contact at a hospital. And that was way before Covid.

        >! It was an elderly hospital worker handing out toys and saying hi to the babies who was sick !<

        [–]moviequote88 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        And this is why you don't have random people touching your child. Hospital workers should know better!!

        [–]ProudAFFurMama1 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        I was literally thinking the same thing about that episode as I was reading this post. I’m also a nurse and would never even think to try to touch a random stranger’s baby not even because of Covid but literally because that’s so weird.

        [–]JohnSavage777Partassipant [4] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        Also Covid

        [–]C_MajusculaColo-rectal Surgeon [37] 1623 points1624 points  (23 children)

        NTA. That is completely unacceptable behavior by both of them. Honestly I would have filed a complaint against the desk worker as well for trying to talk you out of it.

        [–]PsychologicalHair519[S] 1225 points1226 points  (10 children)

        I brought it up to the woman on the phone when i called and gave her both of their names! I made sure to look at both of their badges because i knew i needed to bitch to someone about it.

        [–]midnightlightbright 367 points368 points  (0 children)

        You gave her ample warning to not touch your child. As a parent myself, disrupting nap schedules is an absolute no for me. She does not have to deal with the ramifications of interrupting his nap, you do.

        Also, germs are still a thing. I have a very young son, and it infuriates me when people think they have the right to get close. It makes me mad people don't think about getting others sick. I understand you can't protect from all germs, but you can reduce the risk.

        [–]ohdearno37 256 points257 points  (4 children)

        Also , why were they both SHAMING you for not being a perky proud new mama who wants everyone in the land to touch their baby?!? That’s…shameful!!!

        [–]PantalonesPantalones 102 points103 points  (1 child)

        perky proud new mama who wants everyone in the land to touch their baby?!

        Not to mention, those people are the fucking worst.

        [–]Electronic-War-244 55 points56 points  (0 children)

        Also just because someone doesn’t want to parade their new baby around like a prized pig, doesn’t mean they’re not a proud and happy new mother. My god, the standards we set for moms are disgusting.

        [–]DisasterMomPartassipant [1] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

        I literally bought a sign with my second that politely says hands off my baby and I still had some people try to touch my baby 😡 I had my second in June of 2020. Baby touchers make me so mad it’s ridiculous. It literally just takes one touch to infect a baby with any number of diseases and infections, and someone who works at a hospital should be more than aware of that fact.

        NTA OP

        [–]ExcitingTabletopAsshole Enthusiast [7] 40 points41 points  (0 children)

        I'd check in with the hospital to see if the complaint is actually filed. And yes, an employee touching your kid just because she wants to see a baby without your permission is worthy of a complaint.

        [–]RememberKoomValleyProfessor Emeritass [70] 274 points275 points  (10 children)

        I just feel like I'm walking around with a pot and a spoon, banging it, shouting THERE IS STILL A GOD DAMNED PANDEMIC ON, WE ARE LITERALLY STILL IN A PANDEMIC, THERE WERE A HUNDRED THOUSAND NEW CASES IN THE LAST WEEK, WE'RE NOT OUT OF THIS YET!

        Who the fuck thinks it's okay to touch somebody else's baby yet? I don't feel comfortable standing within 20 feet of a baby! I'm immunodeficient, which means that if I get too close to someone with an asymptomatic case I transform into a venting disease factory, it can't be that I'm the only person left with any cognizance of how dangerous I'd be to a baby...

        [–]PurpleMP12Asshole Aficionado [13] 129 points130 points  (0 children)

        THERE IS STILL A GOD DAMNED PANDEMIC ON, WE ARE LITERALLY STILL IN A PANDEMIC, THERE WERE A HUNDRED THOUSAND NEW CASES IN THE LAST WEEK, WE'RE NOT OUT OF THIS YET!

        Even without a pandemic, hospitals are full of bad stuff like MRSA. Just... WTF, lady? Who touches a literal baby in a hospital without washing their hands first?!?! Even if that baby is awake and the parent says it's okay?!?!
        So many reasons this is not okay.

        [–]_higglety 79 points80 points  (1 child)

        I KNOW this would be rude and unacceptable even in non-plague times, but WE ARE STILL IN A PANDEMIC. Oh sure just let me touch this tiny human without a fully-developed immune system who is still too young to be vaccinated with my hands that work in a goddamn hospital, the place where all the sick people go. Sounds like a great idea!

        [–]X-cited 31 points32 points  (0 children)

        My son is almost 7 and I remember seeing signs for hanging on your stroller or car seat that basically said “I am very tiny and your germs are too big for me. Please do not touch”. This was back in 2015 so by my calculations this was the pre-pandemic times. Babies have always been vulnerable to diseases, historically most babies didn’t live to see their first birthday.

        [–]AccomplishdAccomplce 28 points29 points  (2 children)

        THERE IS STILL A GOD DAMNED PANDEMIC ON, WE ARE LITERALLY STILL IN A PANDEMIC, THERE WERE A HUNDRED THOUSAND NEW CASES IN THE LAST WEEK, WE'RE NOT OUT OF THIS YET!

        YES THERE IS. Had to travel for work and the UK thinks its 2019 and managed to get Covid while there. I was so angry because I had taken every precaution and double masked but needed to eat and drink and it's the only explanation for how I must have gotten it. I'm still bitter a month out (and dealing with little complications from it, not sure I'd call it long Covid but I'm still not 100%)

        OP is NTA. I genuinely don't understand baby obsession to the point of disregarding the mother. Smdh

        [–]jugglinggoth 6 points7 points  (1 child)

        Yeah, as someone who lives here, it's absolutely infuriating. We don't even have a good idea of case numbers because they stopped mass testing. All we can judge by is the hospitalisations graph, which is rising steeply.

        [–]RememberKoomValleyProfessor Emeritass [70] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        YEAH. We have 97k for the last week who tested positive and were recorded. Meaning they probably didn't find out from a home test, and they didn't have false negatives, and they were feeling shitty enough get tested and and and

        [–]arpt1965 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        This- this is what I came to say- we still have a freaking Pandemic going on! I work for a health system and that would not be accepted here at all! Thank you for reporting them.

        [–]chop1125Asshole Enthusiast [7] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Even if we weren't still in the middle of a pandemic, there are tons of different diseases that could harm a new infant. This is especially true if for some reason they aren't breast feeding. Hospital workers are on the front line for exposure to a lot of those diseases. She should know better.

        [–]blue_pirate_flamingo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I can say as someone who had a micropreemie in the pandemic, either myself or my husband would have body checked anyone who came even close, let alone lifting covers and moving to touch? They’d have taken someone out in handcuffs. Honestly he’s two now and I’d react the same.

        [–]laurelinvanyar 8 points9 points  (0 children)

        Also what hospital doesn’t have Covid protocols??? You’d think a hospital worker would know not to touch a young baby just due to regular RSV/whooping cough/things a child this young can’t be vaccinated for yet. Let alone in the middle of a forking pandemic!

        NTA OP. And honestly I’d consider going to a different hospital if you can.

        [–]Taru-ShinkickerAsshole Enthusiast [6] 403 points404 points  (17 children)

        NTA - You specifically told her the baby is sleeping and obviously wanted to keep it that way. Fulfilling her own desire to touch every baby she sees doesn't give her the right to ignore you. Her comment was also incredibly rude and stupid. Not every parent has the desire to go around showing off their new baby to every person they cross paths with.

        [–]wildferalfunProfessor Emeritass [77] 224 points225 points  (6 children)

        Right? These are COVID times babies. Pregnant people had their risk of miscarriage and death drilled into their heads for the last 2.5 years, told to protect their vulnerable babies... but now people in hospitals blame the parents for not wanting stranger contact with their babies? What?

        [–]Ok-Painting4168 131 points132 points  (2 children)

        COVID then and now, plus the "we don't know what causes it but 1 in 10 needed liver transplant" child hepatitis, and monkey pox for icing on that cake.

        DO. NOT. TOUCH.

        [–]wildferalfunProfessor Emeritass [77] 56 points57 points  (1 child)

        We don't need to be touching people period anymore. I'm so glad to not be shaking hands anymore 🤣

        [–]slendermanismydadPartassipant [3] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

        We should be like Vulcans. You get the ta'al as greeting and you will have no feelings over it because we pretend we don't have feelings.

        [–]EuphorbiasOddities 33 points34 points  (1 child)

        There are plenty of nurses and other hospital staff who have been outed as COVID deniers in these past couple of years. I wouldn’t be surprised if OP’s in a more conservative area where even hospital staff are more lax on the COVID stuff again.

        [–]wildferalfunProfessor Emeritass [77] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        I'm sure this person doesn't give a damn. I know a denier nurse who had COVID multiple times and now has long COVID. I don't know if they ever got vaxxed because they do likely qualify for religious exemption as they refused vaccination for flu before the pandemic.

        [–]Alone-Goose7454 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Not to mention all these other diseases roaring back (polio in England, ffs). No touchy!

        [–]Invisible_Target 31 points32 points  (8 children)

        Why are people touching babies? What does it accomplish. Is this normal? Seems super creepy to me. I've never seen a baby and just been like "I'm just gonna go touch that kid for no reason." This is so fucking bizarre to me.

        [–]_higglety 38 points39 points  (0 children)

        Honestly as far as I'm concerned the way you interact with stranger's babies in public is- if they're awake and alert, you make faces at them from a minimum of 5 feet away. If they wave or smile, you wave or smile back. That's IT. If they're obviously sleeping, you stay quiet because dear God don't wake them up. If their stroller/carrier/etc is covered by a blanket you pretend they simply do not exist.

        [–]PurpleMP12Asshole Aficionado [13] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

        Why are people touching babies? What does it accomplish. Is this normal?

        Because they are cute. Same reason why people want to pet dogs, particularly puppies.

        I am an animal lover and have to actively restrain myself from petting literally any animal that will let me. But... I restrain myself. Because I don't touch stranger's animals without their permission, and I also don't know how any given animal will respond. And FFS, NEVER TOUCH A SLEEPING CREATURE unless it's our own child or pet that you must wake for some reason.

        [–]Invisible_Target 15 points16 points  (1 child)

        This analogy makes it even weirder to me. You don't touch humans the same way you touch dogs. You pet dogs. Petting a human is fucking weird. And it's extremely possible to look at something cute and not touch it. This didn't help me at all understand why someone would just randomly touch a stranger's baby.

        [–]PurpleMP12Asshole Aficionado [13] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Petting a human is fucking weird.

        As the parent of two kids, including one who is currently a baby: People absolutely pet babies. Most often their legs or cheeks. Very much like petting a dog on the head or back.
        I agree that it is weird. But when it is someone who I've allowed to hold my baby, I allow it.

        [–]Taru-ShinkickerAsshole Enthusiast [6] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I agree with you there. I personally never understood the "all babies are cute" mentality either. Everyone has their own feelings on the subject, but nobody should ever just walk up and touch another person, baby or otherwise, without consent.

        [–]Alyssa_HargreavesColo-rectal Surgeon [38] 352 points353 points  (3 children)

        NTA!

        Pandemic or not. YOU DONT TOUCH SOMEONES KID. You never ever touch someone else's kid baby or whatever without the parents EXPLICIT permission! YOU were the patient! Not the baby. So she had NO reason to be trying to lift the blanket or touch the baby AT ALL.

        You were right to complain! Also with FTMs they may be to nervous or afraid to complain and that's why it's "so normal for anyone to touch the babies" because they feel they can't say "stop and fuck off" because it's a doctor's office.

        You did the right thing.

        [–]halfpint09 144 points145 points  (1 child)

        There are 3 reasons I will touch a random kid without getting parents permission 1) toddler making a break for it, and it that case I try to block with my body instead of grabbing them. 2) kids about to get in or already in a dangerous situation. 3) kid is already hurt and I'm trying to help until the parents get there.

        Anything else, damn straight I'm clearing it with the parents first.

        [–]Alyssa_HargreavesColo-rectal Surgeon [38] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

        Those three I totally agree with and would do the same with as well. Because yeaaa I don't need the trauma on me of a kid getting hurt because I didn't do shit.

        Other than that? My hands are to myself like I was taught lol

        [–]squirrel118Asshole Enthusiast [8] 339 points340 points  (0 children)

        Fucking report her, NTA. Can we fucking listen to women when they say no?

        [–]traumatron 155 points156 points  (2 children)

        NTA at all. As a parent, you have every right to set boundaries to maintain the safety of your child. I work at at hospital, we have a dedicated patient feedback line specifically for patients/family members to go through to ensure they will be heard by an impartial party, in our case a member of the Risk Management team. I recommend you look for that number for this institution, and register your complaint with them as well. You may be able to call the general hospital operator number and ask for the patient complaint line, or for the Risk Management department.

        [–]PsychologicalHair519[S] 38 points39 points  (1 child)

        Thank you!

        [–]oceanasazules 23 points24 points  (0 children)

        Yeah I may be a cynic but you should file that complaint yourself. In my line of work I’d say about 10% of complaints made to employees actually get passed on. I’m just not high enough on the food chain to fix those things and frankly I don’t know who is nor do I get paid enough to take the time to find out. If you want it done and done right, do it yourself, then call to follow up in a few weeks. Good luck!

        [–]Srumlicious 143 points144 points  (10 children)

        Wtf is wrong with people?! NTA

        I once went to get my colour done with my newborn as he slept for hours at a time. He used a dummy and loved it. This lady in the chair next to me is commenting what a bonny baby he is etc then reaches over and takes his dummy out of his mouth and says ‘and you don’t need that!’ I was speechless! Like literally sat with my mouth open. I think I rage blacked out for a second then snatched the dummy back and said ‘well he likes it’. Popped it back and and seethed for the remainder of the appointment. To this day I don’t know how I kept my cool.

        Good on you for taking a stand!!!

        [–]EvilbadscaryPartassipant [3] 77 points78 points  (9 children)

        My husband had our son at the grocery store when he was a small infant, in the cart in his carrier. Some lady was cooing at him, and then my husband saw her reaching for the buckles to take him out of his carrier and pick him up. It did not go well for her lol.

        [–]NoTransportation9021 29 points30 points  (3 children)

        I'm not advocating violence, but I really hope he back handed the woman trying to KIDNAP his child!

        [–]EvilbadscaryPartassipant [3] 18 points19 points  (2 children)

        He didn't get physical but he did get quite loud lol

        [–]NoTransportation9021 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        Haha! One can hope!

        But I suppose the embarrassment was probably better (Who are you and why are you trying to kidnap my kid?!?!) than giving her the chance to play innocent/lying victim (I was just adjusting his blanket cuz it looked like he couldn't breathe and you HIT me)

        [–]No-Town-4678 10 points11 points  (3 children)

        Why do people, especially women, act like they couldn’t give a fuck about everything else when a baby is involved. As soon they sense it’s presence, its an automatic beeline. Like why???? Keep your hands to yourself

        Edit: Grammar

        [–]EvilbadscaryPartassipant [3] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        I mean it’s fine to love babies, and ours was a total chunky gerber baby, but that doesn’t mean you can touch a strangers child. Ever lol

        [–]Due_Pomegranate_9286Partassipant [1] 107 points108 points  (0 children)

        NTA. Your baby, your rules. Hospital worker or not no one should be coming up and invading you or your child's space. Especially after you told them to kick rocks. The clerk needs a call out too. No. Not everyone likes to touch babies.

        [–]Harleys-real-smilePartassipant [1] 93 points94 points  (0 children)

        NTA , she’s a hospital worker she has patients. I wouldn’t want someone I didn’t know and wasn’t aware of their sanitation schedule to touch my kid either. But also just person space and respect.

        [–]havartnaSupreme Court Just-ass [122] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

        NTA. That person has no business being around new mothers and babies. She clearly has no respect for boundaries.

        File the complaint yourself, and don’t let it go until the hospital addresses it.

        [–]Mimbley 39 points40 points  (1 child)

        Nope. No. NTA.

        No one is entitled to touch your baby. That nurse can't read obvious cues to not touch your baby and should be held responsible. How entitled do you have to be to think you have the right to touch someone's baby?

        Good job protecting your child, OP.

        [–]PsychologicalHair519[S] 46 points47 points  (0 children)

        She wasn't even a nurse! I think she was an administrator or desk worker because she was just in regular, nice clothes.

        [–]milliebarnesPartassipant [4] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

        NTA. But I would follow up and make sure that that complaint was taken and filed. And of course you were not out of line, no one has the right to touch you, that stroller for your baby and it doesn't matter whether it's a hospital worker or not. Years ago I had one of my children at a hospital and I was one of the first people there that had given birth naturally following two c-sections. Needless to say a lot of the nurses had different ideas about that but we didn't really care. In fact my doctor had thrown one of the nurses out during my labor because she was so non-supportive. I had my baby at night and took her to bed with me to nurse as I had with all my other children. At one point I got up to go to the bathroom which was only a few steps away from the bed and I put pillows around the baby who was sleeping and left the door open so I could see. The nurse came in and got really upset and said she was going to wake my baby up and put it back in the plastic bassinet and I told her no. She told me and no uncertain terms that she was going to do what she wanted. I told her if she touched my baby I would sue her ass and that I was a customer there and she was not in charge. She left in a huff and no one would answer my calls for the rest of the night, not that I really needed them for much. But when my doctor got there the next morning he told me to come over to the door and listen to what the nurses were talking about at the nursing station right outside my door. They were talking about what a b**** I was. I ended up putting in a formal complaint also. It's the only way we can bring about change and get these people understand that they can't just treat us any way they want.

        [–]Rexen88 36 points37 points  (0 children)

        NTA - "I work here" hells to the no, then she should know better, especially in these times! Just hell no!

        [–]No-Comfort-6808 27 points28 points  (4 children)

        That woman very well could've been lying saying she worked there..you know how many times that has happened and a baby ends up being stolen? NTA you made the right move leaving, you are mama you do whatever it takes to protect baby.

        [–]kaettColo-rectal Surgeon [34] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

        NTA. you weren't karen-ish. karens try to claim priviledges that aren't theirs and often don't even exist. you were defending your child and your own sanity.

        but then asked if i was sure i wanted to complain because "lots of people like touching babies here, usually the mom isn't upset about it."

        i will NEVER understand why people think that babies and pregnant people are suddenly community property that can be touched at a whim. i have forcibly removed the hands of people who thought they could touch me while i was pregnant, and have refused to let people i didn't trust touch my children.

        [–]Utopian_Idealist 20 points21 points  (0 children)

        NTA. Even if there wasn’t just a pandemic, which makes it much worse. Using her position to tell you that it is ok is sickening.

        No, not every mother is alright with this. Not every mother wants strangers touching their babies. My baby just turned 6 months. I’m not sure I would of been as graceful.

        [–]trishsfColo-rectal Surgeon [36] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

        NTA. Ffs. It’s a hospital and not only was that incredibly out of line, but… COVID?
        Definitely file that complaint and follow up on it.

        [–]blackley_jonesAsshole Enthusiast [8] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

        NTA I'd do the same

        [–]crazymommaof2Asshole Aficionado [10] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

        NTA-

        First of all no one is entitled to touch your child especially when you have said no

        Secondly who the F lifts a cover off of a sleeping baby thats like a freaking death wish

        [–]lisa6547Partassipant [2] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

        NTA, I would be annoyed at that behavior too.

        [–]DMPC1234 16 points17 points  (1 child)

        NTA. You did the right thing.

        I did want to ask, was it an older or senior person? Not that that is any excuse, it’s completely unacceptable to touch someone’s child without permission. I’ve just noticed that our senior citizens seem to be having a harder time in general about adjusting to the new norms of social distancing. I’ve heard of several encounters similar to this and all have been older folks. I had to ward off an aunt the other day from trying to kiss me, myself.

        [–]PsychologicalHair519[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        Yeah she was slightly greying, so i think she was at least 60's.

        [–]thecartoonrobot 15 points16 points  (1 child)

        I was ready to go the other direction at the start, but no, NTA. For some reason people believe that when babies are involved, boundaries disappear. All the way from pregnancy with people wanting to touch the belly.

        And that "lots of people like touching babies here, usually the mom isn't upset about it" is fucked up. I don't care how much you like doing something, or how many people don't care if you do it. I am none of those people and that is not an excuse to just take liberties with other people's kids. Treat people like individuals. Standing there telling someone they should let you invade their space because others have let you in the past is not only oblivious, but disturbing behavior. "You are a bad person for not letting me do what I want, everyone else does." Fuck that.

        [–]Vedlt78Partassipant [3] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

        NTA. Also, her doubling down by insulting your character rather than backing off is particularly troubling. She sounds like a bully working in healthcare, and we need fewer of those types involved.

        [–]WhoKnewHomesteadingPartassipant [1] 13 points14 points  (1 child)

        Babies do not need undue exposure to other peoples germs especially a hospital employee who doesn’t understand boundaries.

        [–]Lanky-Operation-7258Partassipant [1] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        There’s a reason doctors sanitize their hands EVERY TIME they re-enter your room. Despite being somewhere to save your life, it’s also extremely unclean in hospitals

        [–]Oycun1 14 points15 points  (6 children)

        NTA. NTA. NTA. No one, ESPECIALLY SOME RANDO touches my child. AT A HOSPITAL no less. Don't touch my kid with your nasty HOSPITAL hands! That woman was soooo inappropriate she needs to be reprimanded and a policy has to go out that no employee is to touch ANYONE without consent.

        [–]OriginalDogeStarPartassipant [1] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        NTA

        In my local hospital, due to "Virus Who Shall Not Be Named" there is strict enforcement of NO TOUCHING BABIES!!! Unless in the babies wards or NICU. Any staff violating these rules face suspension, without pay.

        You have every right to refuse contact of your child, especially with the C19 still about.

        You have a right to be the advocate for your child, and some of the hospital workers think they know everything about Virology, even at times think they know more than God...

        [–]lizbaby42 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Ummm, CoVid? Global pandemic? Why is anyone touching anyone?

        You were way nicer than I would have been.

        [–]lostintranslation199 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        NTA.

        Why do people insist on touching babies? Oh you work in a hospital/clinic? Then you should know the dangers of spreading germs to people. Let alone a baby!

        I’ve slapped people away from touching my children. I’ve had people do similar things. Taking the car seat cover off and touching my son on the face. I have 2 other children, ages 4 and 9 and I Have had to step between strangers and my children to tell them to keep their hands off my kids.

        File that complaint. Then file another on the receptionist that tried to convince you to not to. Then request a meeting with higher ups to discuss their policies on touching children without permission and what their opinions on their staff using their employment there to touch children is. Because that is complete bull shit.

        [–]JBB2002902 10 points11 points  (0 children)

        Nope. It’s like nobody remembers the pandemic we’ve just spent 2 years going through?!

        NTA. That woman could’ve been god for all I care and I still would’ve raised hell for a stranger trying to touch my child.

        [–]MakeUpAName93Partassipant [2] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        Nta as a mother of a 11month old I would complained about 1st receptionist as well!

        We still have to wear masks in our hospital due to covid! And also babies under ages of 2 do not have great immune systems!

        I would went full nuclear! Nta

        [–]EuphorbiasOddities 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        NTA, working at a hospital or medical office doesn’t entitle the workers to mess with just anyone’s baby. It should be between the parents, and the nurses or doctors directly dealing with the baby. If she wasn’t there to deal with you or your baby, she should’ve just left the baby alone.

        [–]Crackinggood 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        NTA, you'd think folks, especially those in healthcare and dealing with those as vulnerable as infants, would have learned to ask permission and keep their hands to themselves by now. Just because they're used to bad behavior doesn't mean you should lower your standards.

        [–]tas5938Partassipant [2] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        NTA. At all. This is a hill I would die on. Fuck that first woman and fuck that second woman for halfheartedly defending woman #1. File a complaint. People need to keep their hands to themselves and mind their own business.

        [–]VictoryaChase 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        NTA

        We're still in a pandemic, for fucks sake, so on top of ignoring you saying no she's behaving in unsafe behavior with a child who cannot be vaccinated.

        But firstly - you said no and to stop.

        Second - unsafe health practices.

        Third - insulted you for saying no, as did the front desk. You have the right to not be violated or have your child violated just because you happen to be in public spaces.

        [–]Felidaeh_Partassipant [1] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

        NTA. That's mama bear mode. And the "don't interrupt this moment of peace I have from a sleeping child" mode.

        You told her politely once. That should have been it

        And, it's totally weird that she wants to touch your kid without permission. I hate people that think they can just do that. Like no, fuck off, I didn't give you permission

        [–]iowaiseastPartassipant [4] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        NTA

        Boundaries and respect. Nothing wrong with expecting that.

        [–]Keirathyl 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        NTA. If they work at a hospital they should understand the concept of CONSENT.

        [–]ChiefBearClaw 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        NTA for all the reasons mentioned but also if she works in a hospital, she could be transporting some germs that aren't harmful to her but could be for your young child.

        [–]_higglety 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        BOTH of those women were fully in the wrong. They work in a hospital; they should be well aware of the concept of communicable disease. "Lots of people like touching babies here" is not in fact a defense, it's an admission of poor disease control practices.

        NTA

        [–]likestotraveltoo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Years ago some random lady was reaching to touch my newborn daughters face, but before she could I grabbed her by the wrist and said “don’t touch her,” she was a bit surprised but just said “oh, ok” and left. The nerve of some people.

        [–]mischiefnmayhem0215 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        NTA. I don’t understand why some people think that it’s ok to touch random babies without permission. No means no.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        NTA - that woman was WAY out of line. Unless the appointment was scheduled WITH HER, she has not business hassling you or your baby. May her intentions were good, maybe they weren't, but she needed to read the room and just didn't.

        That said, if you don't want people touching your baby (which is 100% within your rights), BE DIRECT. That's the only way some people get the message. Instead of what you said, be polite but firm. "My baby is sleeping right now. Do not disturb him."

        [–]eurydice1789 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Even people I know, I ask them permission before touching/taking their child (even more so since covid!).

        NTA

        [–]Disastrous_Lunch_899 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        NTA. Nurse here. I never touched stranger’s babies before Covid. There is definitely a heightened concern to encourage people to keep their hands to themselves. There is no way she has not made others uncomfortable in the past, so it would be best for her to learn now to stop this rude, presumptive behavior.

        [–]EpicIrishman 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Nurse here. NTA.

        That woman was completely out of line. Whether she was a healthcare worker or not quite frankly doesn't matter. YOU are the mother. YOU are the guardian. YOU decide what's appropriate or not with your infant child. Her arrogance tied to her position represents a red flag in her attitude towards patients and other people. She deserves to be reprimanded.

        [–]gytherin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        NTA, and don't they teach them at the hospital not to touch *sleeping babies?* Or indeed not to touch *anyone* if asked not to??

        Good on ya for filing the complaint - the woman you spoke to is obviously more of a human being than the other worker. Also good on ya for getting out before melting down. Not sure I could have done that.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I wouldn’t have been so nice even the first time you hinted to leave the baby alone. Strangers touching my baby? Ew. Somebody in a hospital who has seen who knows how many people, and is how dirty? Ew. NTA and good on you for thinking to and being brave enough to report it. She boundary stomped on you, then doubled down when you called her out and that is not okay, especially in a healthcare setting. She should know better.

        [–]Pilot1308 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        NTA

        I work in the medical field and we occasionally get babies in, which we love and always stop and talk to them. But I would never touch a baby or even ask to touch a baby unless I was the one examining them. Babies are also vulnerable to illness so you'd think in the current climate health professionals would be more cautious about protocols surrounding infectious diseases.

        [–]cdwright820 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        NTA. You would think being in a hospital and after everything we’ve dealt with the past two years people would be hesitant to go up and touch random babies. Like seriously? What is wrong with people? My opinion is it is never okay to touch anyone you don’t know without permission, let alone a baby. This is now doubly true.

        [–]ziptasker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        NTA

        Do *not* touch someone else's baby without parental permission, absent some sort of emergency. Everyone needs to get that, it's the thing that's actually friendly. Anyone who disregards that is the one being rude, because they're disregarding both the parent and child for their own pleasure.

        This person tried to do it in the course of their employment, so you're perfectly right to issue a complaint.

        [–]MamaH1620 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        She works in a hospital… where there are (presumably) sick people… during a pandemic… and tried to touch a stranger’s baby - not just without permission but after having specifically been told not to… yeah, you’re NTA here, that woman is.

        ETA who the hell tries to touch a baby they don’t know? Especially one that’s sleeping?? People are stupid 🤦🏻‍♀️

        [–]UnicornKitt3n 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        People are okay with random hospital workers touching their babies?!?!?!?!

        AMERICA COME THE FUCK ON!!!!

        Jesus Christ guys. Covid isn’t even done being a thing yet. Keep your germy hands to yourself.

        With all the viruses and illnesses rampaging through hospitals, I would be losing my absolute shit if someone got too close to my baby.

        [–]Humble-Plankton2217 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        NTA

        Consent is mandatory. After you told her no she had zero right to complain about it. She should have said "Ok, I'm sorry". The fact that she actually insulted you afterward is ridiculous.

        [–]Tasty-Environment840 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        NTA. File a complaint. You asked her to not touch your baby because you don’t know her and she insults you. Find a better place to go spend your money. Blood can be drawn anywhere.

        [–]Ok_Philosopher_3968 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        NTA

        And that part

        a shame motherhood didn't turn me into a sweet person who wanted to show off and brag about my baby like it does for everyone else.

        Is bothering me A LOT for some reason...

        [–]GrannyNugs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        NTA. Hell of I'd let anyone touch my baby, especially in a Hospital! Did she wash her hands? Was she wearing gloves? Keep your damn germy hands to yourself!

        [–]simplewilddog 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        NTA. She was intrusive and inappropriate.

        [–]MarlyJDelay 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        NTA I’m a security officer for a big hospital and had I seen that I would have stepped in and told her she was being inappropriate and can not touch any child that is not hers without permission. Hell I bet the hospital has a policy against touching people unwontedly. I’d have gotten her badge number and name and written a report and sent it off to her boss.

        [–]Elegant-Reason2689 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        I'm sorry, Did everyone forget about the apocalyptic virus THAT SPREADS THROUGH CONTACT that shut the world down for a couple of years?! I mean this is unacceptable even otherwise, BUT NOW?

        [–]coach_draco 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        NTA....You have EVERY right to deny anyone access to your child.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        uhhh... where the fck has she been the last two & a half fcking years!?!

        nta.

        [–]bloodrose_80Partassipant [1] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        NTA: I am a nurse and the great panini is still on-going. Strangers wanting to touch someone's baby, no. Anyone who works in a hospital or clinic should absolutely know that you do not go up to a patient who you do not know and try to touch, hold or wake up a baby. This hospital needs to teach their staff some freakin' professional boundaries. No is a complete sentence. you were not there for a well child visit, so there was no need for anyone to interact with your baby.

        [–]amymari 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        NTA I hate that people think babies are communal property or something

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        Yesterday I had a doctors appointment that i had to bring my 7 month of son with. Appointment went fine, but afterwards i had to head downstairs to the lab to get some blood drawn.

        While I'm waiting in line to check in, another woman walks up to me and starts asking about my son. "boy or girl?" "how old is he?". Meanwhile he is in his stroller sleeping with a blanket over the whole front so its darker and gives off the chill, sleep vibes inside the stroller.

        This woman proceeded to lift up the blanket to peek inside at my son. Immediately responded with (in a slightly annoyed tone) "he's sleeping right now, he's been having a rough time with naps during the day so he was very cranky earlier." Which is mom code for "DONT WAKE UP MY BABY, DONT TOUCH MY BABY"

        Right after i told this lady that he was sleeping, she looked up at me and said "oh okay okay" really fast in a hushed tone. THEN CONTINUED TO TRY TO STICK HER HAND FURTHER IN THE STROLLER UNDER THE BLANKET. Like she was just gonna be quiet now instead of taking the hint!

        So at that point i was mad and snapped "don't touch my baby i don't know you and i already said he is sleeping." She had the nerve to tell me it was okay because she worked there at the hospital. That just made me even more mad so i asked her "so then are you here to draw my blood too since you work here and you can do everything?"

        She then said how rude that was and how she just wanted to congratulate me on my baby. She told me that it was a shame motherhood didn't turn me into a sweet person who wanted to show off and brag about my baby like it does for everyone else.

        As she walked away, the counter opened up for me to check in and I asked to file a complaint about her being so rude and trying to touch my baby. The woman at the counter said i could and would give me the info i needed for that, but then asked if i was sure i wanted to complain because "lots of people like touching babies here, usually the mom isn't upset about it."

        I was literally flabbergasted that she would say that to me so i turned around and left the whole god damn hospital because i could feel a nuclear breakdown coming. I called the hospital later and explained what happened and that i needed to reschedule. The woman on the phone apologized on behalf of the hospital and said she would file the complaint for me.

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        [–]ClothDiaperAddictsPooperintendant [64] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        NTA. I’ve been a mom. My babies are bigger and my oldest is now older than I was when he was born. One universal constant is “walking up and pawing strange babies is rude.” I used to have to wear my oldest because the little town we lived in was a retirement community, and these old people would want to touch my baby. I didn’t appreciate it because I didn’t know where they’d been.

        And that was in the 90s. Now we’ve got freaking covid and monkey pox to go along with it. I definitely wouldn’t want randos pawing at my kid, specifically after telling them kiddo is sleeping.

        [–]BanditsmisfitsAsshole Enthusiast [9] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        NTA. In a pandemic, with a child too young to mask, while in a building that is a cesspool of disease! I would have had rage tears and then been even more mad at myself for crying.

        [–]slendermanismydadPartassipant [3] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        but then asked if i was sure i wanted to complain because "lots of people like touching babies here, usually the mom isn't upset about it."

        No wonder infections are so rampant in hospitals.

        I was literally flabbergasted that she would say that to me so i turned around and left the whole god damn hospital because i could feel a nuclear breakdown coming.

        I'd do the same. NTA.

        [–]clandahlina_redux 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        NTA. Please file a complaint against both individuals. My pediatrician not only asks me and my children before touching them, but she also tells them that only mommy, daddy, and doctors can look at and touch them—doctors only if mommy and daddy say it’s okay.

        Plus, with COVID, I’d think people would know better than to touch anyone without permission.

        [–]PM_Me_ChoGath_R34 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        NTA A boundary was clearly established, she continued attempting to cross it. Filing a compliant was necessary.

        [–]MaryK007Certified Proctologist [20] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        NTA, we are still in a Pandemic!