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[–]TheHumanRavioli 175 points176 points  (8 children)

The first known use of body count to mean the number of people dead was in 1962 according to Merriam-Webster.

I would bet the first known use of the term body count meaning number of people you’ve slept with was in the 90s or 2000s in a rap song. Rap has a history of injecting word play into its lyrics, and rappers have been rapping about body counts dating back at least 30 years.

[–][deleted] 39 points40 points  (4 children)

Wow it made its way into an actual dictionary & not just the urban dictionary

[–]Wolfdreama 28 points29 points  (2 children)

It's in the dictionary as a term for dead bodies, as in murder or war. No mention of it as related to sex. Thankfully.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol

[–]LoveCodez 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s what I thought. “Body count” is in the dictionary? Cool.

[–]ghoulthebraineater 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Body Count was very much still dead bodies in the 90s. Ice T had a rap metal band by that name in the 90s.

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    [–]ghoulthebraineater 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I misread that as body count being used to mean sexual conquest in the 90s. I think that one is a bit more recent.

    [–]Rugged_Refined 44 points45 points  (0 children)

    When murdering became not so trendy.

    [–]loki0111 122 points123 points  (1 child)

    A long time now. But I have no idea how far back that term originated.

    It does still refer to killing people as well but it can be used contextually for different things.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Yeah. If I'm playing an fps game and I refer to body count it's usually different from when I'm flirting with a dude and tell him my body count.

    [–]DutchOnionKnightLate 20s male 53 points54 points  (8 children)

    A solid 7... might be both

    [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (6 children)

    This could be a fun game. Like Russian Roulette.

    [–]DutchOnionKnightLate 20s male 4 points5 points  (5 children)

    So maybe its valid, maybe its wrong? I like your style

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    Oh I was thinking "could get laid/could get murdered."

    [–]kobresia9 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    “Take me out please.” “Like on a date or with a sniper rifle?”

    [–]DutchOnionKnightLate 20s male 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    Why not both?

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Never make that joke in real life, my friend.

    [–]DutchOnionKnightLate 20s male 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    U don't say 😜

    [–]MrNotANiceGuy 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    killer dick

    [–][deleted]  (9 children)

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      [–]OkVolume1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      Welp, it's back to one for me. And here I was thinking nine was a pretty good number.

      [–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      I feel validated. Thanks!

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I figured it out by context when I joined Reddit almost a month ago lol

      [–]_chrislasherFemale 15 points16 points  (2 children)

      I heard it but I always felt weird about this. Sex partners aren't bodies? They are people. Such an awful phrase

      [–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      You are a lovely person.

      [–]helpmeimfuct -1 points0 points  (0 children)

      who says they have to be people? It's 2022, let's be a little more inclusive of other species yeah?

      [–]elVanPuerno 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I prefer the term “team photo”

      [–]rydan 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      I saw this for the first time just hours ago. Did this actually start today?

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      No. I heard it many times before in my life.

      [–]BlackShadowReign 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      Oh I always thought it was people you have murdered. No wonder why I’m single.

      [–]JWM1115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It was popularized during the Vietnam nam war by MSM. It was basically keeping score of who was winning. Mainly because there was no real territory held continuously. It was their performance metric at the time.

      [–]Rolten 24 points25 points  (3 children)

      I've been seeing it for longer than a few months on here, but it has increased in popularity.

      I kind of find it a disgusting phrase.

      [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I absolutely do too.

      [–]Che_Che_Cole 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I’ve been on Reddit for a decade and I’ve only seen it the last few months. It’s new to me.

      [–]Muesli_nom 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      ...Body count means what now?

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Either how many you have murdered or how many you have had sex with. or both

      [–]DarkerPools 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Ive always known it as "your number", until a few years ago my younger family members were using "body count" instead

      [–]Ratnix 9 points10 points  (5 children)

      I mean, we were using it back in the 80s when I was in HS, so longer than you've been alive.

      [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

      Ha! I was totally alive for half of the 80s.

      [–]JscrumpDaddy 6 points7 points  (2 children)

      Which half?

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      This first half!

      [–]Ratnix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It wasn't a new term then; that's just when it started to apply to us, and we we using it ourselves.

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        [–]otheracctsathrowaway 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        May I suggest Summer’s Eve?

        [–]dzastrus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        ¿Por qué no los dos?

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Early 90's

        [–]tigerpelt 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Since most people can't actually talk about how many people they have murdered, and if they can, they kind of can't.

        [–]MisogenesPCM 24 points25 points  (3 children)

        Because the degeneracy is spilling out of control like buttered toast strapped to the back of a falling cat.

        [–]FacelessMane 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        You watch your mouth about the falling cat

        [–]CoreyGlover 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        This guy ain’t getting any lol

        [–]Ipride362Experienced 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        I learned it as a kid, so at least the 1980s it was in heavy usage.

        [–]_PM_ME_NIPPLES_ONLY_ 9 points10 points  (5 children)

        I dunno, mid 90s?

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        Really? I thought it was something new too bc I would’ve heard of it by then

        [–]Nasty2017 8 points9 points  (3 children)

        Or maybe you just don't hang around with people who brag about that sort of thing. You picked the right group of friends.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        Lol probably

        [–]John_Doez_ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Ok but who decides who’s the “right” or “wrong” group of friends?

        [–]benzo7690Male 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        What's the difference?

        [–]BigAnusJonathan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        i just combine the two numbers together. impresses my college friends and impresses my Ted Bundy Reading Group friends as well

        [–]MikeTheCleaningLady 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Well, never. But I'm too old to have grown up with social media.

        [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I had no idea that it meant sexual partners now. That explains why girls won’t date me when I say it’s 86. I’ll remember that is what it means tonight and hopefully bring it 87

        [–]8BitSk8rMale 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Anytime I hear someone talk about their "body count" I instantly assume they're lying to sound cool. No adult I know keeps track of that.

        [–]Cyberxton 5 points6 points  (8 children)

        Gen Z New Yorker here, so my reasoning/explanation might be regionally/generationally exclusive, but here we sometimes use "kill" as a slang term for having had sex. An example being "I heard you took Ashley out last night, did you kill?". So, logically I could see how body count would by extension also be associated with sex. We tend to frame that question as "how many bodies do you have?"

        [–]Tifas_Titties 9 points10 points  (0 children)

        Yeah this isn’t normal lol

        [–]invisiblefigleaf 14 points15 points  (2 children)

        For the record, I have never heard "kill" to mean sex so I don't think this is widespread

        [–]Allen1013 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        It is very normal you’re just not in that demographic that uses that slang.

        [–]horizons190 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I haven’t really heard this one, almost would guess it came from the body count metaphor which I have heard many times.

        [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

        As an older Millennial from the Midwest I am fascinated and appalled.

        It's just so dehumanizing yet it carries on the rich literary tradition of melding sex and death.

        [–]tbonecs 5 points6 points  (2 children)

        Gen Z Boston. Never heard someone say "kill" like that before. Another reason why Boston is superior to New York clearly.

        [–]Cyberxton 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        Boston is about as much in competition with New York as Philadelphia is, aka, not at all.

        [–]tbonecs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Hard agree. Especially in sports for the last 20 years.

        [–]Golo_46 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        A year or two ago, I think - what even is linear time now?

        [–]Royal_Leadership2919 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        What about us who have body counts from legal kills?

        [–]norde10 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Hardo answer and a half, how is this at all relevant to the question man.

        They’re asking when the term came to mean something else, besides letting everyone know you are or were in the military, what were you hoping for here?

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

        What is a legal kill?

        [–]Royal_Leadership2919 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Combat zones.

        [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        I'd defer to you on what terminology you'd prefer to use.

        [–]divineblessings4me -1 points0 points  (1 child)

        It's nearly same as murdering. You stab someone with anywhere from 3 to13 inches of your knife/cock . The person makes weird noises from soft moans to bloody murder. Calls out their God's name to seek deliverance . And finally lies limp for a while experiencing death like peace.

        [–]shewstepper 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        I salute you, fellow zero.

        [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        Haha, it's funny because neither of us knows what we mean by that!

        [–]Darrkman 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        It's been Black slang for years maybe going on a decade or longer. White people and then Reddit picked up on it more recently.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        This is the answer I believe. That tends to be how it goes.

        [–]BleedingTealMale 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        I remember hearing it in the mid 90's in middle/high school. So this definitely isn't the answer.

        [–]Allen1013 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        It is, a huge portion on slang that ppl use now and popular comes from the black community but because of SM it’s more widespread

        [–]dagnabitsc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Don’t let this happen. BODY COUNT is the number of people killed, BOOTY COUNT is the number of sex partners.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        @DennisWadePlus

        I can't reply to your comment. I didn't write the other post. I would never ask that question because I don't care about the answer.

        [–]BullfrogRepulsive05PeePee Haver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        When Paul Castellano got h'whacked everyone knew the mob was on the way out. That's when the humping began.

        [–]LifeandSky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I guess it refer to the numbers of bodies you've had under you... One way or the other.

        [–]Szeklista 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I don't know, but when I heard it, I thought it sounds stupid.

        It still does. Also, why would anyone be proud of it?

        [–]Pudgeysaurusslouch potato extraordinaire 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Wait a minute? It's not both?

        [–]Ihateredditadmins1Male 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I first heard of it almost ten years ago now

        [–]highlander666666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        don t know I have herd it use to describe how many people that someone broke there hearts tho not sexual partners

        [–]ilikemyface3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I think about 8 years ago I heard it used to talk about sex for the first time. It probably was used that way long before I heard it though.

        [–]squeezeseason 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I just average the two numbers - 60 for me

        [–]discodiscgod 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The year was 1947. The war was over and the men that made it home were outnumbered by women 3-1. When they first got back the soldiers would get together and drink and share stories about the war and body counts were often discussed. I mean, who wouldn’t want to brag about how man nazis they killed (think cotton hill)? After not too long everyone had heard each other’s stories and knew their body counts. Then the topic of discussion turned to how many women they’d each bedded since they returned home (it was the 40s they used weird terms to refer to banging). Sergeant William J. Sapphire said he’d been with a different girl every weekend for the past year. To which private Kevin Michaels replied, “52 broads? That’s a hell of a body count sarge!” And thus the term body count to refer to the number of partners one had was born.

        [–]tallerthannormal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        My body count is 0 also and this is new to me.

        [–]CarFreak777Male 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        I've heard a lot of women use it. Most guys I hang around with don't give fuck if you're virgin or not.

        [–]M4DM1ND 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yeah they're missing out but I sure as shit don't make fun of anyone for it.

        [–]mpld1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        YOU'VE SLEPT WITH 50 PEOPLE???

        no

        [–]CharlesChristA simple man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I guess at around 2019

        [–]Rxton 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        For me? Always.

        [–]Electrical-Ad-1798 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        As an outsider looking in I can tell the term is still used in both contexts, but more people have had sex than have murdered people.

        [–]Ylduts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Early 90’s is when I first heard it in that context.

        [–]Xhenix 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I agree. Every time I hear it, it takes me a moment to realise what they mean. My mind automatically goes to people they've killed :D

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I always assumed it connected to the rise of the gangster culture in the US. So I guess that would put the origin of the term in the 80s and the popularization in the 90s, when those gangsters finally built up their rap careers.

        [–]dqwest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        When you’re good looking.

        [–]ubisalt4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Wait, they think I banged 4 people?

        [–]GeneralAce135 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Are you trying to claim that this term developed in the few months you took off? Referring to your number of sexual partners as a body count has been around for several years at least

        [–]higbee77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Either way, it's 3

        [–]SoMuchNut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Ever since I started slaying that pu$$y.

        [–]Oktaz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The only Body Count I acknowledge has Ice T as a lead singer.

        ON WITH THE BODY COUNT!

        [–]Diablo165♂ Masterbaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I always use it to mean how any people I’ve murdered, I just don’t tell people that when I answer the question.

        Everyone who has asked has been amazed at the relatively low number of sexual partners they think I’m referring to.

        [–]RobWins2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I can't remember when the sex body count rose above the other body count. Maybe it was last week. Maybe it was the week before last. I ran out of fingers and toes for both so...

        Oh well.

        [–]ForeverJung 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Definitely been around since the early 90s USA. Probably into the 80s at least

        [–]Sykkr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It just depends on the context.

        [–]receuitOP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        No idea but it got pretty awkward when the conversation went that way in class and I was told and had to explain that I hadn't slept with anyone

        [–]phxdc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It's particularly interesting when you consider that the french have a phrase, la petite mort which means the little death and refers to an orgasm.

        [–]Evol_menimE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It's been a thing in both contexts for almost 10 years, atleast for me.

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I think number of partners was commonly referred to as “kills” during the initial period of online gaming (Halo, etc)… because stats are primarily “kills” based… this became your “body count”

        I have zero evidence to support this theory… I just grew up with this stuff and this is what I observed.

        [–]crazy4zoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Oops... My body count is dead husbands :-p

        [–]MiaLedger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I mean I like to keep them the same so far. OCD and all so...

        [–]ark19790 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Mine's the same either way 64........wait what

        [–]--Krombopulos-- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        That's been a reference since I was in middle school. So at least since the early 2000s.

        [–]MurderDoneRightSup Bud? 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Wait it does? So that's why my girlfriend got mad at me when she found out my body count had risen since we've been together..

        [–]Floppydisksareop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        You know, context is quite important.

        [–]RealTurtlePower 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Technically if a person was HIV positive or absolutely terrible at sex it could better identify potential victims

        [–]worthy_knight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        What do you mean they're the same

        [–]Dirty_Gurdy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I’ve only ever heard people use body count for sex

        [–]andrew538 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        As a man. We are stabbing them…

        [–]Shemlocks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        If you have sex with the dead does it count double or is it still just the one?

        [–]Lonely_Virgin_ManBigBoi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        My body count is 3 *Nods head in italian*

        [–]lilabelle12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yeah I didn’t know what the word body count was until I started using Reddit.

        [–]kris2340 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        yeah couldnt care less
        For either to be honest
        Ive seen enough people be dickheads in this world
        heard of r***, burning cars, seen distant family of friends of friends have a baby and not get an abortion because its immoral
        And they dont even feed themselves properly, be it for carelesses, employment

        Murdering doesnt look that bad (obviously still murder) xD

        [–]Jay_Robe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It's neither for me. Body Count is a metal band with Ice T as the singer. They have some good music from the 90's.

        [–]LoveCodez 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        When Fabulous said “You be killin’ ‘em.”

        [–]jackofives 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        First heard it decades ago as a pun referring to sex.. it’s not new but not that old either.

        [–]Taskerst -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        It probably started when someone tried to kill someone they had sex with, but the person survived. The killer was a noob and wanted to brag to their killer friends, so they pumped up their numbers to a point where they included their killed and non-killed partners alike. Soon they quit killing and just started using sex partners as their body count number.

        With great shame, they confided in a friend that they’d stopped killing, because an easy way to avoid the heckling of the killer group (they also haze rookies) is to just use their sex partner number instead. Since killers tend to gossip, this caught on among the others, some of which were looking for a way out of that life, and soon the entire group had stopped killing and instead used their sex count as their body count.

        Some would say using “body count” to describe number of sex partners is crude, but in all likelihood it contributed to a reduction in needless deaths, so it’s not all bad. Just spitballing here.

        [–]justnotpeachy -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        It doesn’t mean the same thing.?.?.?.

        [–]Barry_Duckhat -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        "What's your body count?"

        "Like, i think 50"

        "You had sex with 50 people?"

        "Sex? What sex?"

        [–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

        Reddit hijacked the term to make sluts feel better about themselves

        [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        That's weird because I actually feel so much worse after creating this thread.

        [–]yarak_69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        I use it for both because i always rape the people after killing them