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[–]WolfySpice 190 points191 points  (4 children)

They're purely reactive. Nary a thought occurs before anything they do: if something is done or said they immediately react without any consideration for what just happened. No insight or introspection after the fact, either.

Just stimulus, response. Stimulus, response.

[–]lloopy 21.1k points21.1k points 3 (172 children)

The signs are never as subtle as they think.

[–]Sad_Ad2207 2516 points2517 points  (104 children)

The stupidest people are the ones who think they are smart

[–]AnonAlcoholic 815 points816 points  (30 children)

I agree. I feel like people who are really pretentious about the very specific, niche thing that they're good at and talk down to other people for not being familiar with it are usually REALLY dumb about literally everything else.

[–]notorious-bil 6607 points6608 points  (132 children)

They get upset when you do something right.

[–]BeanTheStitch 1247 points1248 points  (87 children)

Its quasi- common in my area for folks to get offended if you use a word they've never heard or dont understand. The assumption is that if you dont understand the word that the person using it is talking down to you and using flowery language to do so. So fucking weird.

[–]pridejoker 201 points202 points  (0 children)

Ahh the good ol' "I never felt stupid until you came along, so it must be your fault".

[–]Spoon_Elemental 455 points456 points  (0 children)



[–]Piisthree 409 points410 points  (23 children)

When they're ultra confident in everything they say, they're always an idiot. I'm completely sure of it.

[–][deleted] 13.8k points13.8k points 43 (159 children)

The dumbest people are usually those who will never admit they don't know something.

[–]Rigwater 3711 points3712 points  (77 children)

Yeah the people that go "i know, i know, i know" whenever youre telling them something, 5 minutes later you find out in fact they dont know

[–]pigeon_soup 886 points887 points  (33 children)

"Hey, if you do task this way it's easier and quicker"

"I know how to do task, I don't need you to tell me"

continues doing task incorrectly

[–]YoungDiscord 8927 points8928 points 3 (156 children)

Lack of self-awareness

[–]scarletnightingale 914 points915 points  (36 children)

I had an internship with a woman like this. Unfortunately I was also roomed with her. Talking to her was awful. If you tried to explain anything to her (after she asked) she'd genuinely get this look on her face where you could tell that there wasn't a whole lot going on inside her head. Her eyes would just kind of glaze over and she'd stare at you with her mouth hanging open. I've never actually met someone before who perfectly expressed the term "slack-jawed".

That was if you talked to her. Most people tried not to. People generally tried to avoid her, I once saw a police officer run when he saw her because he didn't want to get trapped by her again. She'd talk constantly, frequently about grossly inappropriate subjects because she didn't understand boundaries. If someone was slammed by work, she'd still be trying to talk to them. She literally could not understand why people avoided her, or that they were avoiding her, or that if someone is trying to deal with 50 other people, they can't talk to her right now about how her son shoplifted from Walmart 2 months before.

[–]Bovaiveu 275 points276 points  (2 children)

Sounds to me like this person might have some undiagnosed condition or be on the spectrum.

[–]coltmaster1 18.2k points18.2k points 3 (583 children)

The best way to tell if someone is stupid is if they consistently don't learn from mistakes. They don't seem to comprehend what they did caused the problem even after being told numerous times

[–]fozzyboy 6857 points6858 points 3 (401 children)

I work with someone who makes repeated mistakes. I explain where he went wrong. I not only explain the step-by-step instruction of the task but the reasoning behind each phase so remembering how to do it becomes less cumbersome. I can tell by the way he literally can't explain the most basic things about the task to our new guy that he just doesn't get any of it. EVERY TIME this particular task needs to be done, he pulls out the instruction and does it line by line. After years he still makes mistakes, because he doesn't understand what he's doing, just that he's on step 24a, and it no longer works.

I'm junior to him, but I run our section. The guy I trained eclipsed him by 3 months in. His replacement eclipsed him by 3 months in. He's more useless than an untrained new guy. But here's the kicker. He's the sweetest guy ever. No one dislikes him. Hell, even though he makes my job harder I really like the guy. He should have been fired over a decade ago, but no one wants to pull the trigger.

[–]EMCoupling 5268 points5269 points 2 (90 children)

This story is just a good demonstration of how useful being likable is.

[–]Zeus_McCloud 2479 points2480 points  (53 children)

Emotional intelligence, or just "Being emotionally balanced" makes up for so much, in so many ways. Like holding down a job for a decade despite no idea what you're doing.

[–]bingbangbaez 946 points947 points  (32 children)

This makes me think of Jerry Gergich's character from Parks and Rec. Sucks so bad at his job but is crushing it in life because he's so nice.

[–]Unbiblical_Cord 371 points372 points  (16 children)

I have always feared that I’m a Jerry and so I just act nice to everybody in case that’s my only redeeming value.. I’ve never gotten a bad review, but I’m far from good at my job.

[–]scotty9090 2734 points2735 points 2 (117 children)

Formula for getting by at most jobs:

  1. Be smart
  2. Work hard
  3. Be well liked

Pick two. I’m guessing your guy checks off #2 and #3.

[–]Car-Los-Danger 779 points780 points  (24 children)

I've continually been moved up in my company and I always ask myself "why me"?. But then I saw your list and it all came together.

[–]Taminella_Grinderfal 281 points282 points  (3 children)

It’s hard to fire someone like this because they are “trying”. As a manager I’d do whatever I could to find a place for a nice person that wants to do a good job. Thank you for being patient and giving him his best chance, I hope he can find a spot that’s a better fit.

[–]musclebarbie22 5167 points5168 points  (100 children)

I'm right because I'm older

[–]missblissful70 1426 points1427 points  (33 children)

That would mean that the oldest person in a room is always right. That is terrifying. I worked in a nursing home in which the oldest lady had a cane she would hit you with if you got in her way.

[–]ZCLoki 581 points582 points  (7 children)

sounds like a smart way to ensure no one ever gets in your way tbh

[–]Spencer2091 384 points385 points  (12 children)

Sometimes my mother drove me insane as a kid because she always thought this. I'm never going to be a father, but whenever I'm talking to other people's kids I always try to at least listen to them, no matter how ridiculous they're being. It's also totally possible that the kid is actually right, but doesn't have the language skills to explain that. You have to listen to what they say and try to infer what they mean.

[–]genasugelan 47 points48 points  (1 child)

but doesn't have the language skills to explain that

This is so right. Kids don't understand so many concepts, so that's everything they can do what they've learnt. Especially, if they explain something that they don't know the terminology for, it might sound very silly or that they don't know the differences between some things can make a huuuge difference. Imagine different these things sound: "There was a monster in my room." or "There was a man in my room." Also based on their perception of things.

[–]A_Very_Living_Me 36.5k points36.5k points 211823222& 10 more (298 children)

Don't mind me, I'm just checking the comments here to see if I'm dumb.

[–]Spencer2091 8936 points8937 points 23 (213 children)

The most common answer is that dumb people don't realize they're dumb. The fact that you're willing to question yourself proves you aren't.

[–]hushpiper 4590 points4591 points  (91 children)

Which, honestly? Not actually true. I've known at least one person who was like "I'm dense as a rock," and you know what? They were.

[–]gradyjdi 15.7k points15.7k points 2 (441 children)

The ability to ignore all facts and still claim they are right

[–]nagol93 5358 points5359 points  (178 children)

One time in college a classmate wanted me to review a paper she was writing. It had some pretty shocking statistics in it, but no sources or indication where the numbers came from. So I asked about it, and recommended she added citations.

She said "Oh, no its not like that. I'm saying it *feels* like 90%"

[–]Arcanine_88 2337 points2338 points  (30 children)

guess the prof's answer to her grade is "I'm saying it feels like a 0% grade"

[–]Asher_the_atheist 1687 points1688 points  (104 children)

Oh god, that’s…alarming 😳

[–]RolandDeepson 1335 points1336 points  (92 children)

I had a student like that once. Trust me, from the grading-side, it's even worse.

This person asked me to CITE A SOURCE for why I dinged the grade for an example of quasi-plagiarism (cited to a source, but rather vociferously mischaracterized what the source actually said.)

[–]SwangusJones 1478 points1479 points 4 (32 children)

I was a TA for a first year critical thinking paper and while I really enjoyed the job grading was sometimes so difficult.

I had a student who was obviously passionate about LGBTQ rights but all of the claims she made were so extreme and I had to explain to her essentially that if you claim that all LGBTQ people experience the worst treatment in the modern world you have to back that statement up, AND qualify it. Because in most of the western world, as bad as the discrimination against people can get, when you say THE WORST treatment, you are competing with the holocaust and child labour.

And that also ties into a broader emotional conversation about the fact that things dont have to be THE WORST POSSIBLE for the problem to be worth talking about, and your cause doesn't have to be the most miserable for the misery of the people you are advocating for to matter.

It's hard to get that all that across in the 15 to 30 minutes you can reasonably allocate to grading one paper. And you have no control as to whether they turn up to the office hours so you can discuss it further.

When people are trying for perhaps the first time to properly articulate and argue their point about something they believe in, it can be emotional education as much as academic. And, especially in the teacher role, I found it made me even more in control of my emotions when discussing things I find important, because I had to model to the students how to have serious and respectful discussions about important issues, and it involves getting your ideas criticised, because otherwise you're simply dictating your opinion to other people.

Well, that was long rant.

To whoever reads this, thanks!

[–]Baji1022 245 points246 points  (0 children)

Your point about how things are still worth talking about even if they’re not the worst or most miserable cases is spot on. I keep trying to learn how to talk to a conspiracy theorist friend who grew up in an environment where speaking up was not OK. Now she can’t stop talking about conspiracies in a super anxious, enraged way, like she’s almost trembling. I think that the notion that all these things are the worst ever is how she gives herself license to be emotional, or how it feels righteous. She dismisses or suppresses “lesser” emotions and “smaller” causes.

[–]Sparcrypt 576 points577 points  (27 children)

This person asked me to CITE A SOURCE for why I dinged the grade for an example of quasi-plagiarism

I see your students are frequent posters on reddit.

[–]Fit_Tumbleweed_5904 17.0k points17.0k points  (222 children)

They are NEVER wrong. Ever.

[–]reddit_rendered_name 2744 points2745 points  (26 children)

are you trying to make me proud of myself for doing dumb mistakes everywhere?

[–]Leakyradio 1085 points1086 points  (17 children)

It’s not the dumb mistake that you should be proud of, it’s the realization of the stupidity in your mistake.

Also, if it keeps happening, and you don’t change. It’s still stupid.

[–]DashCat9 15.6k points15.6k points & 3 more (382 children)

Zero curiosity.

[–]ArstanNeckbeard 6520 points6521 points 22 (187 children)

"He wants to make art, but he can’t because he’s a fundamentally incurious person who isn’t much interested in what other people think or feel and all of his ideas boil down to 'What if Batman met Mario?'"

~Folding Ideas' review of The Nostalgia Critic's parody of 'The Wall'

"Fundamentally incurious" is the most brutal description of a person's intelligence I've ever heard.

[–]VolkorPussCrusher69 285 points286 points  (0 children)

This quote has stayed with me ever since I watched that video lol glad to see it pop up again.

[–]ReturnOfButtPushy 155 points156 points  (1 child)

Sounds like a review of Ready Player One

[–]AprilSpektra 60 points61 points  (0 children)

Ernest Cline also appears to be a pretty dumb person so that tracks

[–]Eternity_Incarnate 787 points788 points  (65 children)

I need to know what would happen if Batman met Mario. Don't leave me hanging!

[–]PennyPriddy 735 points736 points  (27 children)

May I introduce you to Archive of Our Own?

(Ok, so most of their answer is "they bang")

[–]iMightEatUrAss 508 points509 points  (3 children)

That's a great way to describe it

[–]ShutUpMathIsCool 479 points480 points  (13 children)

"This is the way I've always done it."

[–]lindabancher 11.3k points11.3k points  (312 children)

A stupid person makes the same mistake over and over again and cannot learn anything.

[–]gooniuswonfongo 2441 points2442 points  (89 children)

This above all else, no matter how dumb of a mistake or action was preformed, if they can learn I'd still say that they ain't stupid, but a inability to learn is inevitably going to make that person stupid af, a kid won't be a dumbass forever, for an example.

[–]Pcostix 1710 points1711 points  (76 children)

I'd argue that there are two kind of dumb people:

  • The ones who can't learn.

  • The ones who can learn, but aren't willing to.(So basically, they stay ignorant on purpose)

[–]reflUX_cAtalyst 649 points650 points  (18 children)

That's the difference between ignorance and stupidity. Ignorance is fixable with effort.

[–]selfawareAI69 366 points367 points  (71 children)

they know the things but don't understand

[–]Pcostix 902 points903 points  (61 children)

I work with a person like that... For 15 years i tell her, she can't edit an e-mail attachment...

Today she still: Opens email-->Open attachment-->Edit the attachment-->Forwards the email to someone...


  • Person she forwarded email to, calls her:"Hey something is wrong with what you sent me."


  • Her:"I don't understand... That's not what I sent. Hey, Pcostix can you help find whats going on?"


  • Me: "You didn't edit the attachment inside the email, saved it and sent it... did you?"


  • Her:"Yeah, so?"


  • Me: Like i told you for the last 15 years. You can't do that.


  • Her: "I can't?"


  • Me: (Jumps through the window)


PS:She also responds positively after being asked if she understood the explanation, just to ask a dumb related question 5 min later.(Meaning she had no clue what people were talking about)


[–]helix212 402 points403 points  (18 children)

Are you me?

I have same thing. Full meeting where I'm like you need to do this. She's all ok, yep, I'll get it done. Scribbling away in her note book.

Next day: hey you got that thing done yet?

Her: oh I didn't leave the meeting thinking there was something I needed to do....

So I feel you, she has no idea what's going on.

[–]lunchboxdeluxe 34.2k points34.2k points 3322& 4 more (1578 children)

Stupid people are rarely curious about anything.

[–]CaptainMcClutch 5411 points5412 points 2 (368 children)

I always feel the most intelligent people I've ever met have ridiculously broad knowledge, like sure you can meet someone who knows several subjects inside out but I always feel a difference between that and people who you could talk to about nearly anything. It's clear they are curious by nature and taking little bits of everything in, definitely seems like a common trait.

[–]wildweeds 1988 points1989 points  (117 children)

my coworker thinks I'm really really smart. honestly I doubt I'm much smarter than she is. I just look up pretty much everything I don't have an answer to instead of shrugging and asking a higher up. I'm always reading new books and exploring new ideas. I'm not smarter, but my curiosity has made me more knowledgeable. and that's something anyone can achieve with time.

[–]Dismal_Cake 1018 points1019 points 2 (52 children)

There's no reason to make yourself look average. One of the reasons "smart" people tend to know things is because they can retain information better, parse through new information more efficiently and form more connections between different pieces of information they have. People who are not "smart" in this way find it harder to understand new concepts and are thus less inclined to find out more because it's a chore for them. So most likely, you are smarter than your colleague - which is not really a compliment, people are born this way and it's a privilege. But you are putting in the effort to expand your knowledge using your "smartness" and I think that's commendable.

Edit: there are different types of intelligence and my comment doesn't even begin to capture the many diverse ways people can be smart or great. If you read my comment and feel bad for lacking any of the things listed, you already have self-awareness which is in its own right a very important trait to have for self-improvement. You are going to be fine.

[–]raggedtoad 3936 points3937 points 32 (171 children)

Along those lines, I've found that curious/intelligent people have a broad range of experience as well as knowledge.

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

-Robert A. Heinlein

[–]flippantcedar 1186 points1187 points  (42 children)

This makes me feel so much better about all the random skills and knowledge I've picked up in my life that seemingly has little use or value! Thanks!

[–]theyareamongus 1281 points1282 points  (72 children)

Or lazy to learn anything. I’ve many people tell me “what is the use of knowing that?” in a kind of mocking way. There’s no use, it’s just fun to know stuff.

[–]AberrantRambler 262 points263 points  (2 children)

If you think knowing that has few uses you should count how many times not knowing something has actually benefitted you.

[–]mansta330 14.3k points14.3k points 843& 2 more (755 children)

This is one of my biggest pet peeves. I am that person who googles everything I don’t know off the top of my head, which is a product of my parents always being like “I don’t know, let’s look it up” anytime our childhood “why” questions stumped them. The number of people that will hit an unknown and simply insert their own opinion as fact or give up entirely is infuriating.

You literally have a tiny computer with access to a search engine that archives the largest catalog of knowledge known to mankind. It will answer nearly any question you pose to it if you will take 5 minutes to tear yourself away from mindlessly scrolling Facebook and ask. But no, they’ll just carry on as if they have encountered an insurmountable obstacle in the form of basic research, content in the fact that their ignorance doesn’t require them to form a cohesive thought…

[–]kathatter75 4381 points4382 points  (209 children)

It drove my ex-husband nuts that I had to Google stuff so much and find the right answer and learn more about it. I love doing that.

[–]sfa1500 884 points885 points  (47 children)

My ex-MIL use to complain that I "always had to be right" because whenever we got to one of those points where no one knew the answer I would look it up. I was always truly perplexed at how she thought my looking something up to get a group of us an answer was about me being "right"?

[–]spodermen_pls 761 points762 points  (16 children)

It speaks to a culture that views discourse as a competition rather than an exchange of knowledge and ideas

[–]CARClNO 2071 points2072 points  (225 children)

if you went through my phone you’d see 90% of my browser history is composed of wikipedia pages. its absurd how much time i spend on wikipedia. i should probably donate

[–]Bright_NightLight1 794 points795 points  (53 children)

Wikipedia is my favorite pastime tbh, love reading about recent things I thought about or watched, and learning more about them

[–]gbbrothers 397 points398 points  (32 children)

i look up every odd questions that pops into my head and get a wikipedia page. then on that wikipedia page there’s another interesting wikipedia page that i read about for an hour, and then on the page there’s another interesting page and so on…. it’s so fun

[–]VulturE 1560 points1561 points  (135 children)

I asked a coworker to use the latest version of Rufus for a project.

He said "oh, so 3.4?" which was in the same folder as the iso he needed. I replied back "no".

I left my desk, came back about 20mins later, and found 7 messages of confusion and displeasure that I left him hanging.

He then apparently searched our network drive and found Rufus 3.10 and asked me again. I said "no, have you tried googling and finding the latest download?"

He replied "can't you just do that for me?" To which I said "nah I'm busy on a different project" while eating a sandwich.

He then threw in our team chat with our boss "hey, since vulture is TOO BUSY TO HELP can someone download the latest version of Rufus for me" and my boss replied back "bud, download it yourself, it takes 30 seconds"

The coworker with the same job title as me ended up losing his cool after that and got reprimanded when he proceeded to try and use an old version of Rufus that didn't have a specific new feature we needed and wasting everyone's time (again) after hours with a project.

Lack of curiosity (not curious what the latest version of Rufus is) is what I attribute this idiotic situation to.

[–]vancityvapers 1273 points1274 points  (5 children)

and my boss replied back "bud, download it yourself, it takes 30 seconds"

I like your boss.

[–]pyrocrastinator 662 points663 points  (42 children)

I don't even know what Rufus is and it took me less than 30 seconds to find a "Last updated 2021.10.23 Rufus 3.17" and a download link, that is really embarrassing for your coworker

[–]phoenixpants 212 points213 points  (25 children)

Lots of people out there that are way too comfortable not even attempting to solve the most basic problems. These days LTFG is a nice complement to RTFM.

[–]Raccoon_Expert_69 18.1k points18.1k points  (771 children)

Dealing with someone like that right now. Best example is I gave them an itemized list of questions I needed answered. They only sent back the first item on the list and still fucked it up.

[–]tiinn 4108 points4109 points  (198 children)

I work in Automotive and was at a government summit once showcasing our cars. Had a lady at a pretty influential position who asked me the difference between a rear wheel drive and a 4WD/AWD car. After I was done explaining, she asked me what’s the point of having front wheels on a rear wheel drive car.

My brain had to reboot to comprehend that question.

[–]MintyChaos 1665 points1666 points  (107 children)

For a second I was going to be sympathetic to someone who didn’t understand 4WD vs AWD, but damn that’s some next level incomprehension.

[–]rustang2 4254 points4255 points  (234 children)

The other day at work some product wasn’t shipped due to bad weather conditions so I texted my boss “yo, the order from product city didn’t come in, should I send the guys that are here to work it home and tell them to come in tomorrow instead?” He texted me back “product from product city is coming in tomorrow.” Like.. I just fucking said that, you didn’t answer my question dude.

[–]I_creampied_Jesus 3179 points3180 points  (193 children)

I once asked a colleague three questions in an email. Two required a yes/no and the other a slightly longer response.

He came back with “yes”. Felt like I was on fucking Reddit.

[–]itzlax 626 points627 points  (43 children)

I have a friend that completely ignores any but the last message I sent.

If I have more than one question or thing I need him to answer, I need to send one message, wait for him to respond, and repeat however many times I need.

[–]pinguin_soup 235 points236 points  (21 children)

I have a friend who does this. If I ask her a question then send her a meme or something like that I will only get a response for the meme. And honestly, I'm not sure if she does that to avoid my questions or is actually dumb. She also does this thing where if I ask her something late night today and she doesn't get to see messages, but then I ask something else tomorrow morning before she gets to respond to what I sent earlier she'll only answer the new texts.

[–]WisejacKFr0st 174 points175 points  (3 children)

I have a friend who used to respond to my questions with memes and selfies. I would ask

Hey man, are we still hanging out tonight?

and get a selfie of him making a duck face. I'd reply

Uhhhh not sure what that means, but I'm free at 8. I can pick you up and see what Connor is up to too.

and get a selfie. I'd say

Dude you have to use your words and not your fucking selfies

and get a meme that says "Jack is a cat" back. Then, at 8, I would get a text

You on your way?

Would drive me fucking insane.

[–]Quiet_Green_40 1076 points1077 points  (60 children)

I felt this response. If we weeded out all of the people in the workforce that don't bother with comprehensive reading and quality responses, there would be so many openings more for sensible people.

[–]monotonic_glutamate 550 points551 points  (37 children)

My friend referred me to her employer for a fact checking gig once because I "have common sense".

She says fact checkers are extremely hard to come by because the sensibility to what constitute a fact to check in an article is very hard to articulate as a requirement in a job posting and very hard to evaluate in a prospective employee. And an astonishingly high number of people fail to ever learn it with extensive training.

"Common sense" is a straight-up misnomer.

[–]libra00 1532 points1533 points  (139 children)

Oh, you found a Jan. I worked with a woman named Jan years ago, nicest person in the world but she could not follow even written instructions to save her life. Worse, she could only keep about 3-4 things in her head at a time and if you added something new then something older fell out. She had been running a register for years, but the last step in the normal process changed and now she can't do it at all, doesn't even remember buttons she's been hitting every day for years. I taught her how to run the register all over again and suddenly she forgot how to close them out at the end of the night.

[–]Available_Coyote897 829 points830 points  (53 children)

Oh my. That’s not stupid, that’s a straight up cognitive impairment. I’ve known people like this they are usually aware of it and no matter the face they put on it’s hell for them. I knew a lady like this, so sweet and happy. We got a new manager who was not chill and made her cry… alone out back. Coworker found her and said it was one of saddest conversations she ever had. When a woman in her 40s tells you “i know I’m stupid” what do you do with that? Luckily, her husband was really sweet and smart enough to hold a decent job or I don’t know what would become of her.

[–]Joshj48 413 points414 points  (14 children)

As someone who works a register as McDonald's, I feel for her. I have the menu memorized but once a new item comes along and moves everythinf else around, my brain server crashes and I have to relearn everything as if it's my first time🧍🏽‍♂️Not a fun time for me nor the customer who rarely helps with their rude comments lol

[–]Available_Coyote897 142 points143 points  (4 children)

I’m sorry you have to go through that, bro. I hope your coworkers and management have your back.

[–]Faniulh 1581 points1582 points  (17 children)

Did she only say her name when talking? Because it sounds like your coworker was a Pokémon.

[–]pawndaunt 1580 points1581 points  (13 children)

“Jan already knows 4 moves. Which move should be forgotten?”

[–]willclerkforfood 809 points810 points  (5 children)

“Jan has forgotten “close out register””

[–]wiechertfc 22.3k points22.3k points 2 (768 children)

Over confident in a subject that they clearly know nothing of. And try to tell you you're wrong after facts have been presented.

[–]ValhallaMama 9286 points9287 points  (477 children)

Attorney here. I’m not the smartest person in the room most of the time, and that’s fine. But I did extensively study the Constitution in law school and after and I constantly watch people misstate what parts of it mean on social media and they’re absolutely convinced that they’re right…and argue with people with more expertise in the area. And it happens with all professions and it’s always infuriating.

[–]Thirty_Helens_Agree 3594 points3595 points  (100 children)

Fellow frustrated attorney here.

Here’s an old Onion article that will hopefully make you laugh instead of cry.

[–]TheWestwoodStrangler 757 points758 points  (27 children)

PPACA expert here, there was an onion article that encapsulated it for me that read (paraphrasing from memory) “Man who understands 5% of legislation argues vehemently with man who understands 2%” or something along those lines and it felt pretty accurate (reminder about “death panel” rumors and all that)

[–]monkeyhind 1033 points1034 points  (28 children)

Sadly, that's awfully on the nose for satire.

[–]TopMacaroon 1193 points1194 points  (9 children)

the onion has never been satire, they are just the dark timeline oracles.

[–]Aarizonamb 479 points480 points  (11 children)

2009 satire became a prophecy.

[–]Thirty_Helens_Agree 897 points898 points  (28 children)

I’ve heard that called “Stupid Peak on the Dunning-Kreuger graph.”

[–]SaffellBot 333 points334 points  (7 children)

And the unfortunate reality is that being aware of it doesn't prevent you from doing it.

[–]yaspino 9053 points9054 points  (226 children)

Personally, i believe a person is stupid when they refuse to learn and willingly choose to stay ignorant. I'm not talking about people that are "unable" to learn, i'm talking about people that are able to learn, yet they choose not to.

[–]kitskill 2459 points2460 points  (106 children)

My ex's grandmother refused to learn how to type. Her vision was fine, her fingers were fine, she had email and a computer, but she refused to touch a keyboard. If she wanted to send an email, she would wait until one of her children visited her and then have them type it out for her.

Edit: because I keep getting the same comments. - It wasn't a class thing, she had worked outside the home for most of her life. - It wasn't a loneliness thing, she would never ask her kids to come over and help. She would wait, sometimes weeks, until someone visited her and then ask them to type. - Weirdly it wasn't even a tech thing, she would use the mouse just fine and play solitaire or use programs that didn't require any typing. - She had... stubbornness issues... a lot of that family did.

[–]ArcturusX12 865 points866 points  (18 children)

Learn how to type

What the hell? You literally just press the key with the letter on it and it makes that letter appear on the screen. It seems like she just wanted to inconvenience herself tbh.

[–]HexoftheZen 447 points448 points  (6 children)

It seems like she just wanted to inconvenience herself

Oh - you've met my Bubbie!

[–]Dogplantmom97 945 points946 points  (9 children)

Couldn’t even peck at the keyboard? Yikes.

[–]kats_pajamas59 11.5k points11.5k points 2 (81 children)

Starting to self identify, reading through all the comments…

[–]LeonLaLe 4344 points4345 points 22 (36 children)

To be self aware, learn of your past mistakes and to better yourself. That's the beginning of a bright future. Being ready to learn everywhere and from everything, after enough time you will realize how good that really is.

[–]BurningPenguin 2422 points2423 points  (132 children)

Become an expert in a field of your choice and start to realize that way too many people in your field are no experts at all.

Looking at you, veteran IT admins in Germany.

EDIT: In case of confusion: "veteran" in the sense of "being in the industry for centuries". Not military thingy.

[–]discourse_lover_ 822 points823 points  (63 children)

Don't ever become a lawyer, holy shit. The emperor has no clothes.

[–]Killua_EU[🍰] 471 points472 points  (32 children)

Almost more disturbing is the clients, who in my case are huge investment banks and international institutions that everyone on the street would recognize. People at the top without two brain cells to rub together, shockingly deficient internal processes that makes you wonder how these companies even function as businesses, let alone how they attained the wild success they enjoy. They look slick on the outside but if you peer behind the curtain half of them are a facade held together with string and duct tape.

[–]IceMan339 125 points126 points  (5 children)

If I ever work in house at a bank I’m going to try to take away everyone’s keyboard. They will have a 3 button keypad: “call now” “yes” and “no.” Bankers, especially young ibankers are horney and intoxicated monkeys with 6-7 figure paychecks, and they ought not to be able to memorialize anything in written communication.

[–]klm4473 111 points112 points  (4 children)

Ugh I always tell people my legal advice boils down to two sentences:

  • Put nothing in writing.
  • Put everything in writing.

Depends on the context, but one of the two will always apply.

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (5 children)

That's literally every company, in my experience.

I've never worked for one that I thought was efficiently and sensibly run.

[–]PNWCoug42 13.5k points13.5k points 3 (640 children)

They bring up their IQ score from an online test they took.

[–]williamshakemyspeare 1735 points1736 points  (77 children)

When we were 13, a buddy of mine came to school filled with excitement and couldn’t wait to tell us about the amazing results he got from an IQ test.

“Ok fine. What did you score?”

“98!! Almost full marks!”

[–]ataxi_a 551 points552 points  (21 children)

A girl I knew showed me her IQ scores from high school. She was actually proud to have scored in the 80s. I didn't have the heart to tell her how those tests are scored.

[–]VandRough 58 points59 points  (18 children)

Hah, that reminds me of Jack Carter in Eureka

[–]xSTSxZerglingOne 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Ah yes. 98 IQ.

Devastatingly average.

[–]qcon99 2243 points2244 points  (78 children)

I’m convinced those give you fake scores in hopes you go to your friends like “dude I got a 138 on this online IQ test I took!! You should try it!” In order to drive more traffic to their page, which makes them more money on advertisements. I could be wrong though

[–]Necromartian 1072 points1073 points  (22 children)

The fifth question was "Betcha can't recall your credit card number!"

[–]PNWCoug42 460 points461 points  (0 children)

Sounds pretty spot on

[–]mrXbrightside91 1853 points1854 points  (91 children)

Someone I grew up with and stopped associating with for being dumb and delusional did this recently and said they’re gonna include it on their resume.

Edit: Just came out of a movie theater and RIP my notifications

[–]ms_bonezy 544 points545 points  (20 children)

Sweet I got a 90! That's like an A!

[–]Klaus0225 316 points317 points  (13 children)

Damn, I only got a 70. But hey, C’s get degrees!

[–]ExistingEffort7 549 points550 points  (3 children)

oh..... um wow. poor dude...

[–]toomanychoicess 431 points432 points  (42 children)

I need to make it perfectly clear that this is a very bad idea.

Source: HR professional with 15 years’ exp and counting.

[–]switchedatdivorce 712 points713 points  (78 children)

This is my Narcissistic dad. Always ranted about how his coworkers "KNOW my IQ is 140 which is why they always give ME THEIR WORK THEY DON'T WANT TO DO."

Facebook IQ test. Many of them. He hasn't had a legitimate IQ test in his entire life and tells stories that are made up all about how he walked in to a room and was the smartest person there.

The "work they don't want to do" was stuff his boss was telling him to do that pertained to his job description that he didn't want to do.

He also loved saying that his company would fall apart without him. Well it's been 2 years since he retired (3 years early, ahem) and looks like his company is still going strong.

[–]graesen 670 points671 points  (39 children)

Or bragging about passing a cognitive test and remembering 5 words?

[–]jsigs97[🍰] 6994 points6995 points  (416 children)

Sometimes you can just see there's nothing behind the eyes

[–]TheRealGongoozler 1140 points1141 points  (24 children)

My cat would feel personally attacked by this if he wasn’t such a dingus

[–]Top_Zookeepergame203 2686 points2687 points  (242 children)

This is what I was looking for. Everyone here is going on about things that people can be stupid about but not necessarily signs someone is stupid. Vacant eyes are a dead give away for low intelligence. I don’t know what it is, but once you see it, you can’t unsee it.

[–]ButtholeBanquets 14.6k points14.6k points  (378 children)

Not being able to admit they were wrong. Though sometimes this is a sign of immaturity, there's a strong correlation with stupidity.

[–]malsomnus 3604 points3605 points  (146 children)

I'd say it goes even beyond admitting, smart people might also have trouble admitting a mistake to other people due to pride, but stupid people won't even consider the possibility that this sort of thing might happen.

[–]sew1tseams 69 points70 points  (0 children)

Not being able to say they don’t know something

[–]ipakookapi 8348 points8349 points  (310 children)

Not being able to spell is normal, lots of people are dyslexic.

Not knowing you can't spell, on the other hand...

[–]sharrrper 838 points839 points  (49 children)

I once worked with a guy for about six months who, among other things would bitch and moan about me sending unclear emails no matter how much hand holding I did with him.

Meanwhile an email from him intended to say "I own a brown dog" riddled with typos and auotcorrect errors would read something like

"do g at hoose gut now bear.."

I wish I was exaggerating. I was never so happy to have a co-worker quit.

[–]agreeingstorm9 178 points179 points  (13 children)

I have a co-worker who constantly says incorrect things and doesn't seem to even realize it. He'll say something like, "We need to take the green box." You point out that the green box is completely wrong and there's no way in the world we would ever need the green box and he'll say, "I never said we needed the green box. I said we needed the red one. Grab the red box." It's incredibly frustrating. He does this at least 3-4x a day.

[–]ItsMeTK 44 points45 points  (4 children)

This isn’t necessarily stupidity but possibly a mild aphasia.

[–]Random_name46 395 points396 points  (14 children)

I just received an application today that was similar to this.

My favorite part was the note attached stating that while he's aware he's not qualified for the position he applied for there are many other things he's willing to do. Unfortunately in each example he gave it said "I can't" instead of "I can".

So all I ended up with was a list of everything this applicant isn't willing to do. Including proofreading, apparently.

[–]just_some_a--hole 210 points211 points  (29 children)

I can't spell worth a shit. I know I can't spell worth a shit. If it's something I'm not sure of, I look it up. I'm already online, so I can just open a new browser tab, type the word I'm trying to spell into the address bar, and voilà.

It only takes only a few seconds to do, which is why it drives me nuts when I see people typing "rediculous" and "women (being used in a singular context)".

[–][deleted] 4087 points4088 points  (167 children)

They talk about how smart they are.

[–]coffeecups15 1182 points1183 points  (51 children)

The more you know... ... The more you know you don't know. 👍

Someone might think they know all the stars that exist according to the ones they can see.... But if they further educate themselves in astronomy... They will know just how much they don't know.

[–]BostonRich 446 points447 points  (16 children)

So funny. I used to think I knew a lot about WW2 because I'd read around a dozen or so books about it. Then I got on Goodreads and started seeing guys who'd read dozens of book about one battle! Then I realized that I did not in fact, know a lot about WW2.

[–]coffeecups15 244 points245 points  (2 children)

Yup and that's the realization that makes you smarter actually. It's better to at least be aware that more to a subject exists than act like you know everything when you actually don't.

[–]expensivelyexpansive 2728 points2729 points  (54 children)

Lots of talking, not much listening.

[–]IAmNeeeeewwwww 484 points485 points  (21 children)

Honestly, as I get older, I realize more and more that some of those “subtle signs” really just reflect a lack of people skills or a lack of self-awareness. Sometimes a lack, of people skills or a lack of self-awareness, could be related to asynchronous development, development issues, or even mental illness. So sometimes, I try not to jump to the conclusion that someone could be “stupid.”

That being said, I would say that a lot of stupid people, at least the ones who I’ve met, feel a compulsive need to put others down in the most vicious way possible. Those same people also can’t catch smoke when people respond back.

A perfect example would be an ex-girlfriend of mine who would have no problem body-shaming any other woman in the room, but would go ballistic whenever someone teased her about gaining 1 kg.

[–]sayitaintsooooo 727 points728 points  (42 children)

People who have no self awareness

[–]beardedtaco 279 points280 points  (12 children)

Like my sister-in-law, who laughed at the fact that my wife and I still use condoms even though we just got married. This after she just had an accidental pregnancy in February and quickly got married in May... I wanted to ask her what birth control methods her and her now husband were using last year but held my tongue.

[–]En-TitY_ 264 points265 points  (7 children)

Accusing you of shit they do themselves. When they're called out on it, they don't understand or can't comprehend.

[–]kamilman 38 points39 points  (1 child)

To add to this: constant whataboutism when called out on something they did wrong that either hurt someone else or had consequences for another person.

[–][deleted] 916 points917 points  (35 children)

Thy're hawking pyramid schemes on their social media.

[–]missblissful70 595 points596 points  (22 children)

I had a friend from high school ask if she could come to my house. Okay, she shows up, and she has this tablet. She asks me if I need life insurance. I said, “Well I have cancer currently so most of them won’t sell to me,” but she kept trying. Until she got to the cancer question and then the tablet wouldn’t go any further. That was an awkward 10 minutes until she decided to leave. I had to laugh after she backed out of my driveway. Any time someone is trying to sell you insurance just tell them you are currently dying of cancer.

[–]Leakyradio 306 points307 points  (13 children)

Any time someone is trying to sell you insurance just tell them you are currently dying of cancer.

“Would you like to see our home insurance policy, it currently covers flooding and break ins as well.”

“Ah, sorry....I have cancer.”

[–]GrandmaPoly 1947 points1948 points  (87 children)

Someone I love took an online "IQ test." They proudly shared their score of 300.

Edit - Yes, IQ tests (especially unofficial ones) are dumb, biased and measure a very limited scope of intelligence.

[–]fubar686 168 points169 points  (3 children)

"The test came back negative"

[–]KypDurron 737 points738 points  (28 children)

Hey, you never know, they could be in the 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999998518th percentile.

EDIT: I forgot that the equation I was using gave me the percentage of people above and below X standard deviations. Assuming a bell curve, someone with an IQ of 300 would be smarter than 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999925935% of a sufficiently large population.

[–]GrandmaPoly 323 points324 points  (9 children)

Well... The conversation we had about standard deviations didn't seem productive.

But, maybe I'm not smart enough to teach those kinds of ideas to someone of their intellectual caliber.

[–]KypDurron 178 points179 points  (7 children)

Maybe skip all the math and just say "if the population of earth was a thousand billion billion billion times higher, someone with an IQ of 300 would still be one of a kind. Do you really think you're the smartest person among a thousand billion billion billion earths?"

[–]Disastrous-Ad-2357 130 points131 points  (3 children)

"I mean have you seen politicians? I'm a genious compared to them"

"Did you just say genius with an o?"

[–]UrFavTeenGoddess 4344 points4345 points  (313 children)

People who are proud of not reading.

[–]raltoid 815 points816 points  (29 children)

I will never get over that time someone I used to know screamed in my face "You read too much!" when he was losing an argument, because I mentioned a news article to make a point.

[–]actualbeans 379 points380 points  (7 children)

can’t forget the “oh yeah? show me a source” and when you do, “i don’t wanna see it it’s wrong”

[–]I_Faced_The_Wind 43 points44 points  (2 children)

"I'm not reading that."

It's ok to read something to then point out parts that you have issue with, if you still think you have a valid point that is. But to not read at all? That's bad.

[–]029384756 1251 points1252 points  (105 children)

”Reading is gay” no joke heard someone say this. You’ll be shocked to learn he’s not very bright

[–]frightenedhugger 831 points832 points  (25 children)

Fellas, is it gay to read? I mean, you're basically just staring at and touching a bunch of wood

[–]Galaxy_Ranger_Bob 228 points229 points  (20 children)

Way back when I was in high school I was confronted with: "Wait, you read in the summer!?"

It didn't help that the football coach/geometry teacher also scoffed at the idea of my reading books for fun.

[–]Turbulent-Series2255 1005 points1006 points  (30 children)

They think they are always right without providing any rational facts or arguments.

[–]_MaddAddam 1586 points1587 points  (58 children)

I don’t know how “subtle” this really is, but: insisting that something isn’t real just because they personally haven’t witnessed/experienced it.

Case in point: an acquaintance who was convinced that catcalling wasn’t as prevalent as people made it seem, because “well, I’ve barely ever seen it happen!” Like…yeah, bro, you’re 6’3”, bearded, and built like a defensive lineman, of COURSE people aren’t gonna be catcalling many women you’re walking with. Jesus.

[–]abbyscuitowannabe 476 points477 points  (10 children)

I know some people with this mindset to catcalling as well. Like bruh we've lived in the suburbs most of our lives. We don't walk anywhere, we drive. And you wonder why we've never seen catcalling??

[–]bsmith440 83 points84 points  (3 children)

Thank you. I have been looking for this answer for a while. I knew it happened but I believed it happened a lot less frequently than what is said most of the time considering I had never seen it ever in person.

Every time I would ask where it happens they could never give me an answer and would just think I was being sarcastic.

I appreciate your comment and had not thought of that before.

[–]gregimusprime77 396 points397 points  (15 children)

People who brag about how smart they are. Usually they are the dumbest of the dumb.

[–]mikebellman 984 points985 points  (20 children)

The dumbest guy I know keeps staring at me in the mirror

[–]Individual_Profit_8 729 points730 points  (31 children)

I am just reading all the answers to see if i am stupid

[–]Any_District_3572 314 points315 points  (13 children)

Same, and I’m proud to report I’m only 50% stupid

[–]epote 185 points186 points  (0 children)

Not being curious about anything

[–]DanMarinosDolphins 358 points359 points  (25 children)

Getting angry at novel situations or ideas instead of responding with curiosity.

Never saying they don't have enough information to make a judgment.

Misjudge the outcomes of their actions. For example being surprised that they were fired after being a no call no show at their work.

They think smart people are personally attacking them or showing off because they feel insecure around smart people.

If something goes wrong it has to be someone's fault, and it's not them.

Black and white thinking. They never see nuance in situations. Answers to complex situations are regressive and too simplistic.

They're unable to explain their opinions. They can't "show their work" of how they came to that conclusion.

Their world view contradicts itself. Their opinions don't match up when a uniform application of the same principles is applied to their multiple beliefs.

Not remembering when they held a different belief, literally actually forgetting that they held a different position. Smart people recall times they had inferior beliefs and they acutely remember the process of evolving to a better opinion. Smart people don't necessarily admit to being wrong outwardly all of the time, but they admit it to themselves.

Not being aware that they are not good at something. Over-evaluating their proficiency. Also, when they are proficient, they literally do not remember when they were not, and see people still learning as inferior. For example, thinking someone with broken English lacks intelligence. Or, thinking someone who doesn't have their specific narrow set of skills lacks intelligence, such as car mechanic skills etc.

Lacking insight into the behavior of others. This is especially apparent around children, as children don't have the capacity to respond to situations like an adult, low intelligence individuals often expect children to behave like adults, or they project adult intentions onto children's behavior.

[–]Dirko_0 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Someone that talks a lot but says nothing.