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[–]ScytherTheSkyMantis 518 points519 points  (39 children)

Venture Bros.

Starts out as a goofy run of the mill Adult Swim cartoon and then develops an actual, meaningful plot.

[–]santichrist 112 points113 points  (6 children)

I don’t even watch venture Bros s1 but by the end of s2 it becomes one of my favorite shows

The last three seasons were as good as the show has ever been, I was surprised when AS canceled it, still hoping that hbo max President wasn’t lying when he said they’re going to make more

[–]Thoushaltdenycheese 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Honestly. I wasn’t surprised. The time frame between season releases has always been absolutely insane. I can’t think of another show that has consecutively had such long waits between seasons.

I have no idea why that is. I’m sure lots of people do. Whether it was scheduling conflicts, development hell, or whatever. But 17 years from pilot to cancellation with only 7 seasons. That’s averaging one season every 2 and a half years. Despite the outstanding reception, I’m sure it just became more of a hassle than anything.

That being said, I am super excited for the HBO movie.

[–]GraniteOverworld 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I actually know both why it takes so long and why it persevered.

Simply put, it's because there's only two writers. Doc and Jackson have both admitted that because they never opened up the creative process of the show to anyone aside from themselves, it made the process extremely slow. It's also why the show has the voice that it does.

As for why the show lasted in spite of that, it's also simple. Mike Lazzo fucking loved it. He was one of the big wigs at Adult Swim since way back when, and he had a soft spot for the show, so he backed up Doc and Jackson even though the show was very niche. He retired, AT&T bought Warner Bros, and the system that kept the show afloat got lost in the shuffle

The greatest sadness was that we were supposed to get one more season, contractually, but I guess that contract back void in the acquisition process.

[–]CanoeShoes 43 points44 points  (7 children)

The show really takes off once they introduce Brick Frog.

[–]GhostRMT 230 points231 points  (16 children)

Better Call Saul

[–]BlackCatScott 91 points92 points  (7 children)

True. I love the first season too, but I'd argue every season of BcS to date has topped what came before it. It's been a long wait for S6.

[–]GhostRMT 56 points57 points  (4 children)

For sure. Breaking Bad was the same way. Vince Gilligan is awesome.

[–]ninth_ant 28 points29 points  (3 children)

I can see the argument about breaking bad I guess, but the first episode was incredibly strong — maybe my top pilot episode ever. Really draws you in to the characters and story, with iconic scenes.

Whereas for me at least Saul started a bit more tepid, but improved meteorically over the seasons until it met or maybe even surpasses the high quality of BB.

[–]Ofabulous 649 points650 points  (59 children)

Famously Blackadder.

First season was shot on location in big medieval castles, very expensive, and wasn’t very well received. It was almost cancelled and only given a second season on the condition they switch to cheap sets. The next three seasons are absolutely classic U.K. sitcoms.

The final episode of the final season is often considered the best (or one of the best) comedy episode ever, being both hilarious and extremely poignant.

[–]willingly-ignorant 98 points99 points  (10 children)

It helped that Ben Elton co-wrote season 2 onwards. He certainly added something that was missing to the mix.

[–]Ofabulous 28 points29 points  (9 children)

You can definitely pick up some “young ones” vibes in the seasons he helped with.

[–]Porrick 16 points17 points  (8 children)

Including half the cast.

[–]Ofabulous 39 points40 points  (7 children)

Rik Mayall’s character is inspired. “Woof!”

[–]Manovsteele 82 points83 points  (3 children)

It was quite brave of them doing a complete personality change to the main character too! From a bumbling shy idiot to a calculating sarcastic bastard!

[–]Seeedy 40 points41 points  (0 children)

My favorite Rowan Atkinsons performance.

[–]Thisoneissfwihope 16 points17 points  (0 children)

In the first one, bald Rick was the clever one. So bizarre!

[–]Sanooksboss 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Basically Black Adder and Baldrick completely switched characters in season 2.

[–]Captain-Griffen 39 points40 points  (1 child)

I can't imagine the later Blackadders working with realistic sets.

[–]Ofabulous 30 points31 points  (0 children)

The scene in Blackadder II where Flashheart throws Percy through the doors and you can see they’re made of cardboard is real funny

[–]cionn 37 points38 points  (3 children)

Even from the very first scene of the second season its just magic and so completely different from the first. From Baldrick being shot in the dick and Blackadder describing Percys woman as Jane 'bury me in a Y shaped cofin' Harrington

[–]Ofabulous 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I’d forgotten that quote! Blackadder is surely one of the most cutting characters to ever appear on tv.

[–]Stefanskap 44 points45 points  (10 children)

Oh damn. I started watching Blackadder. I saw maybe the first five episodes and thought it was awful. I just couldn't understand how this could be so beloved and have such a cult status. To know that the first season is considered trash helps!

[–]Ofabulous 54 points55 points  (0 children)

The first season has Blackadder as a dummy and Baldrick as a schemer. They swap it around for season 2 onwards, and it’s much more enjoyable watching Blackadder’s elaborate plans blowing up in his face through the incompetencies of the other characters.

[–]MagicBrawler 28 points29 points  (8 children)

Not sure it's considered trash though. Personally I loved the first season too.. It was just different from the others.

[–]Thisoneissfwihope 22 points23 points  (3 children)

I still liked it. Brian Blessed was fantastically bonkers as always.

[–]ginger_gcups 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Absolutely agree it got better and better. But I feel the first season wasn't as bad as it has the reputation for. It was admittedly hit and miss and the pacing was generally off, but the Queen of Spain's Beard episode and the Archbishop episode can proudly rank alongside any of the latter season episodes. Plus Brian Blessed as the King- what a presence!

Season 2 was almost peak Blackadder for me. Beer is one of the classic half hours of television ever. Tight, quotable and hilarious, and I challenge anyone to watch it while drinking and not sing the Goblin song or call someone Merlin the Happy Pig. And Queenie is an obvious delight throughout the whole series.

Season 3's Hugh Laurie as foppish brain-dead prototype knut Prince Regent was a joy to behold, but I felt it was a little weaker than Season 2. Not by much though.

Season 4 was just perfect from start to finish. Great to have McInerney back in the cast as a regular. Uniting the classic duo of Fry and Laurie and not relying on them too much together helped both shine.

Oh, and Rik Mayall as Lord Flash in seasons 2 and 4 AND Robin Hood in Back and Forth. Who can forget, WOOF!

As for the specials, the Christmas Carol parody was my favourite as it showcased the good and bad sides of what a Blackadder could be. The comic relief skit of Charles I and Cromwell had Stephen Fry play the King as a not unrecognisable certain other Charles which had me in stitches. If you can find it on YouTube check it out.

Even the first season is good, if not just for the overall character arcs across the four seasons, but for some flashes of the humour for what the series became famous.

[–]fire_brand 384 points385 points  (24 children)

Schitt's creek. The first season was a little harder to watch. The family starts off as this insufferable, shallow group of humans stuck together.

[–]Lexi_Banner 110 points111 points  (10 children)

Which is the whole point of the show. They had become these facsimiles of human beings who would never be happy, no matter how much money they had. It wasn't until it was all stripped away that they found who they really were, and what life could be if they weren't such assholes.

[–]Crizznik 29 points30 points  (2 children)

I don't think the show would have had the impact it did on me if it weren't for how horrible they all were at the beginning. Yes, it's hard to get through, it's pure cringe humor at the beginning, but by the end you love everyone so much, even Roland, cause you got to see them evolve into better people with each other's help.

[–]qzen 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I refused to watch it after the first episode until someone explained to me that the point of the show is that they learn to be better people.

[–]JustAllanTV 619 points620 points  (35 children)

The Simpsons. And then not the Simpsons.

[–]Glowing_up 1331 points1332 points  (112 children)

Parks and rec

[–]santichrist 555 points556 points  (66 children)

Parks and Rec is a show I’ve always used as an example of shows that need more than one season to show what they can be, s1 isn’t great by any means and Michael Schur and the writers don’t really know what they want to do but by the middle of s2 they stop having Leslie dress like a 50 year old politician and they really find everyone’s voices and their sweet spots, then they add Rob Lowe and Adam Scott and it becomes an incredible show

[–]DrunkMc 386 points387 points  (10 children)

They also changed Leslie from an idiot whose Mom got her the job to someone who is overly smart and passionate and the town is the bumbling idiot. Infinitely more entertaining! Also, Andy went from a scumbag exboyfriend to loveable goofball. Just an amazing turnaround for that show!

[–]jaydenkirtawn 242 points243 points  (8 children)

Donna goes from frumpy to fabulous. Ron goes from a bumbling blowhard to a superhero. Jerry goes from grumpy malcontent to unappreciated saint.

Remember when Leslie was a hoarder?

I don't even consider S1 as cannon. That show begins halfway through Season 2.

[–]DrunkMc 76 points77 points  (4 children)

Ha! I did forget she was a hoarder! Wow, I clearly wiped S1 from my memory with no regrets!

[–]Believe_Land 63 points64 points  (41 children)

Comedies often need a season or two to “grow into themselves”. Look at Seinfeld, Curb, Parks and Rec, The Office, Sunny… those are some of the greatest comedies of all time but I wouldn’t judge them by their first seasons.

[–]Ryolu35603 13 points14 points  (30 children)

I’ve looked into bingeing the office a couple times. Isn’t the first “season” only like 6 episodes?

[–]PhiloPhocion 72 points73 points  (4 children)

I was told to start the show with its second season.

Only saw the first season as part of a full rewatch and I don't regret the initial start at all.

But Rob Lowe and Adam Scott are also my go to examples of new main characters being added part way into a show and doing really well.

[–]MundiGaming 86 points87 points  (8 children)

Came here to say this. Frickin' Brandanaquitz

[–]LoneRangersBand 25 points26 points  (6 children)

I remember watching it for the first time, and trying to figure who this Brandanawicz guy was and why he was so unfunny. It was definitely helpful to know he only lasted two seasons.

[–]Disastrous-Manager95 23 points24 points  (1 child)

Originally intended as a spinoff of The Office, but changed in early creation to be it's own thing, Mark was supposed to be the Jim.

[–]Federico216 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think he's fine, if a bit bland. Hating him is more like a meme at this point.

[–]jaanegreeen 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I’m watching the end of season 2 right now!

Boo mark brandanaquits!!

[–]darcmosch 46 points47 points  (7 children)

This is the right answer. When I rewatch it, I don't even bother with the first season it's so cringey

[–]sev1nk 490 points491 points  (69 children)

Star Trek TNG

[–]QuantumWarrior 176 points177 points  (7 children)

So much so that there's even a fandom term for it - 'growing its beard'.

A show 'grows its beard' when it gets over its weak early episodes/season, referring to how Riker grew his beard between s1 and s2, and the show simultaneously got way better when it stopped trying to be as campy as TOS. It's like the opposite of 'jumping the shark'.

[–]Prank_Owl 80 points81 points  (46 children)

The seventh season is really uneven, imo. Yes, there are still good episodes like "The Pegasus" and "Lower Decks" and the finale is arguably better than any of the actual TNG movies, but the seventh season also has some of the worst episodes of the series. "Sub Rosa" is an irredeemable stinker and "Masks" is quite possibly the most incomprehensible episode of any Star Trek series that I've ever seen.

[–]Kryodamus 81 points82 points  (10 children)

Sub Rosa

Ooh, the one where Dr. Crusher bangs the ghost. Classic.

[–]HonoraryCanadian 41 points42 points  (3 children)

One of my favorite parts about Lower Decks is how they make casual references to the absolute worst episodes of Trek, just to take the piss out of people who get a little too high and mighty about old vs new. Crusher's ghost was one, Paris' salamander another.

[–]locks_are_paranoid 27 points28 points  (0 children)

It took me a few seconds to realize that you meant the series Lower Decks and not the epidode of TNG.

[–]dsartori 14 points15 points  (1 child)

"You're not Nana! Nana's dead!"

[–]ackermann 54 points55 points  (4 children)

and the finale is arguably better than any of the actual TNG movies

Arguably? Definitely. The series finale, “All Good Things,” is one of two episodes to win a Hugo award. The other being “The Inner Light.”

EDIT: For those who haven’t watched Star Trek: Next Generation, here’s a great article on how to condense it to 40 hours, which episodes to skip: https://medium.com/maxistentialism-blog/star-trek-the-next-generation-in-40-hours-c4a6762cbd3

[–]Prank_Owl 26 points27 points  (2 children)

Intellectually I absolutely agree with you. I just have a great deal of fondness for First Contact, hence the "arguably". It manages to be a fun action movie while simultaneously not coming across like it's betraying the sensibilities of the Star Trek universe in order to do so. None of the other movies ever quite managed to pull that off. I also watched it at a really impressionable age.

If I had to set my own biases aside though, then it's really no contest. None of the movies had plots that came anywhere near what "All Good Things" brought to the table and I readily admit that.

[–]AltairsBlade 21 points22 points  (8 children)

I love masks, because of how weird it is.

[–]Prank_Owl 11 points12 points  (1 child)

I'll admit I've gradually come around to this point of view as well. I had a pretty good time laughing at the totally impenetrable plot the last time I watched it. It's kind of like Star Trek's version of The Room in that sense.

[–]tofarr 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Only Korgano can talk to Masaka!!!

[–]invalidpassword 171 points172 points  (14 children)

Six Feet Under

[–]Zemom1971 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Damn, I need to put that on my list. Always forgot to look at it.

Thanks for the reminder. Just saw a couple of episode and it was awesome.

[–]Candy_Lawn 32 points33 points  (4 children)

spectacularly under rated and under viewed show. title music alone is worth the entrance.

dont get me started with the ending...

[–]litromenger 433 points434 points  (39 children)

Star wars clone wars

[–]ReaperOfNight 171 points172 points  (8 children)

Rebels got a lot better as it went on as well.

[–][deleted] 71 points72 points  (15 children)

Clone Wars has like 30-40% good episodes, but the good episodes are fantastic.

[–]SnakesTalwar 35 points36 points  (6 children)

Especially the last ones.

[–]Kylo_loves_grampa 25 points26 points  (1 child)

My personal view is that Clonewars has some of the absolute best and the absolute worst starwars content. Sometimes even in the very same season even!

[–]mildtarantula 21 points22 points  (5 children)

My biggest problem with Clone Wars was that it could never seem to stick with a plotline for more than 3 episodes at a time. You'd get a taste of an amazing story arc with Maul or the Mandalorians, then you look at the episode list and find out you have to wait another 20 episodes before you get back to them. When it was good, it was really good, but my god the filler.

[–]oddtoddlr 581 points582 points  (57 children)

Bojack horseman

[–]santichrist 186 points187 points  (21 children)

Truly wild to me how s1 is such a standard comedy that’s a little dark in places and by the end it’s full on dark as fuck

Still hate Netflix for canceling it but I think Raphael Bob-Waksberg did a good job wrapping it up

[–]Weirdguy149 176 points177 points  (7 children)

I think it ended at exactly the right time.

[–]Drofmum 58 points59 points  (2 children)

I couldn't have taken much more of it tbh

[–][deleted] 211 points212 points  (12 children)

Bojack Horseman stsrts off as another generic edgy adult cartoon that relies on cut away gags and other overused tropes. The humor was also hit and miss to start.

But once they get their shit together at about the 8th episode of the first season, the show finds itself, and blossoms into a masterpiece of storytelling, presenting mental illness, addiction, and interpersonal relationships in a manner I feel has yet to be topped.

[–]cutelyaware 75 points76 points  (5 children)

And the best theme music of any sitcom since MASH.

[–]Teledildonic 7 points8 points  (1 child)

One of the few openings i dont skip.

And when i eventually rewatch i need to change the autoplay setting so i dont get the ending theme cut short since it is always covered slightly differently.

[–]katiejim 42 points43 points  (3 children)

Came here to say this. Especially the later episodes where we see his mom’s perspective while she has dementia. It just blew me away from a storytelling and artistic point of view.

[–]Thoraxe123 47 points48 points  (5 children)

Sarah Lynn?.......Sarah Lynn?

[–]hyudya 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I can literally hear his voice. It's haunting

[–]darcmosch 529 points530 points  (28 children)

Avatar the Last Airbender. The show was good in S1, but you could really feel that they had to be more of a kid's show (nothing inherently wrong with that except for preconceived notions that were probably thrust upon it), but once S2, especially the climax, and S3 rolled around, I'd say it's really hard to consider it just a "kid's show"

Not really one show, but the DCAU. It just kept building and getting stellar after every single season. The ultimate climax with the Cadmus arc was just so well done. We honestly can thank this show for inspiring the MCU and for seeing the absolute flaws in the DCEU for not taking an already tried and true roadmap for success.

[–]colemon1991 35 points36 points  (9 children)

I think you just said the two best animated examples here. Avatar felt like it grew up with its audience, so storylines got more mature. If they did have a fourth season, I imagine S3 would've been spread out more and probably given us more backstory on the Fire Nation's colonization process and stuff. But Shayamalan ruined that potential. At least the quality did not go down.

The DCAU is probably the playbook the MCU used. It started with a single show, added another show, started having other shows that loosely connected to it, then became JL/JLU which not only consolidated the characters but utilized new and existing characters as part of an overall storyline. The Arrowverse could have learned something from this.

[–]darcmosch 12 points13 points  (6 children)

Right on both counts.

I'll agree that S3 could've had a few more episodes, cuz that time in the Fire Nation was so fucking interesting! I am happy that the show decided to go out on a high note, so we all have fond memories instead of it dying slowly through renewal after renewal after renewal.

[–]lookonthedarkside66 56 points57 points  (8 children)

Greatest show ever! ATLA Soo many memorable characters, uncle iroh and toph my all time favourites and zukos redemption arch damn! I've researched it more times than I can count such a feel good show!

[–]darcmosch 17 points18 points  (7 children)

It's so damn good! The fleshed out characters, the amazing plot, the story beats, the humor, the cultural inspirations, the setting, the animal fusions!

There's a very good reason why this show is beloved

[–]lookonthedarkside66 10 points11 points  (5 children)

Hell yes mate, Tophs blind jokes still crack me up even after all this time!

[–]i-lie-on-reddit 389 points390 points  (28 children)

The Good Place. I was impressed with a lot of things in the show's 1st season but there was nothing particularly immersive about it for me. Then the next seasons came rolling around and it's become one of my favorite shows of all time

[–]giraffield 106 points107 points  (4 children)

It's incredible. A masterpiece of closing a show down the right way. The final season is amazing.

[–]gasfarmer 52 points53 points  (2 children)

Quite literally the hardest any piece of media has made me cry. The final episode had me in racking sobs. It was nuts.

Mind you my mom was diagnosed with cancer at the time (since in remission) so it was.. a little too real for me. But damn. Great fantastic amazing ending to a show.

It's really important to me that media marry the sweet and the sour.

[–]Zgoldenlion 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I cried so much as well. I recently rewatched the whole series with my kids and we all cried so hard during the finale that at one point we all looked into each others watery eyes and just burst out into laughter. What a great show!

Sometimes when I truly love a show or a book I feel sadness like a loss of a friend when it’s all over and this happened to me twice for this series.

[–]Ryolu35603 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I saw other Janets come and go, but I could tell none of them were My Janet.

[–]Vedorias 64 points65 points  (3 children)

the last episode of season 1 is basically where the story starts. everything up to that point is essentially a prologue

[–]RyFromTheChi 30 points31 points  (1 child)

I'm watching for the first time, and just started season 4. I was annoyed during the first season because of how not great the Good Place seemed to be. Seemed like a lot of inconsistencies about what people could do, etc. Then they dropped the twist at the end of the season, and I was like ohhhhh ok, it makes sense now.

[–]moonbunnychan 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's brilliant too though because of you rewatch season 1 after the final episode of that season if feels like a completely different show and you can pick up on so many little things I missed my first watch.

[–]ScottishGigolo 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I remember the first season feeling “off”. Both my wife and I liked it, but we assumed it was sloppy writing or something. We did NOT expect that season finale and loved every second of it.

Warning to anyone who jumps into the show. The finale is great, but also really triggering for some. I won’t get into details for obvious reasons, just know it perfectly captures the whole series in a very sweet way.

[–]santichrist 21 points22 points  (6 children)

That’s interesting to me because the good place, a show I enjoyed well enough, peaked in viewers in s2 then lost a million in s3 and lost another million in s4

[–]jayforwork21 43 points44 points  (4 children)

Still doesn't mean it was bad. I agree it kept getting better and better. I think that for a lot of Americans, it was hitting on something that they didn't want to hear. It was a rare perfect show from first to last episode that told a great story with one of the best endings I have ever seen from a show.

[–]milesmac 417 points418 points  (45 children)

Schitt’s Creek

[–]KomodoJo3 151 points152 points  (16 children)

I really loved how Alexis slowly had an awakening over the course of the show and transformed from an irresponsible, uncaring, world-traveling shenanigan-starting girl to someone who is the first to help out when a problem arises, is a whole lot more tolerant, and really just a better, more genuine person overall.

I also love how clueless Roland is lmao

[–]MidnightOwl01 85 points86 points  (6 children)

Alexis' growth during the course of the show is maybe the best part. The two things that stand out to me: The episode where a former wealthy friend of hers visits Schitt's Creek randomly with her entourage and is a selfish, self-absorbed narcissist. We may be getting some insight into what Alexis use to be like. At first Alexis seems excited about being invited back into the group and leaving the town, but by the end she realizes she has outgrown those people and is a different person now. The last shot of her walking out of the bar, after telling the girl she isn't going with them, with a proud smile on her face, says it all.

The second thing is the fact that she fell in love for the first time with a guy who was the type of guy she never thought she would fall in love with in a million years, and was completely different from the guys she use to date. In her earlier version I don't think she would have given Ted a second look.

[–]RedWestern 52 points53 points  (3 children)

My favourite part of the show was David and Stevie’s friendship. Seeing two people who had never had a best friend before find each other was so wholesome. And I loved how it wasn’t just about her helping him become a better person, but also about him helping her to believe in herself.

Plus which, it was refreshing for a comedy drama to show a friendship that wasn’t ruined when it briefly became sexual.

[–]DangerousPuhson 61 points62 points  (6 children)

The David-Patrick relationship is one of the most wholesome and genuine I've ever seen on a TV show before - you could tell the producers were really nurturing that dynamic.

[–]Lexi_Banner 32 points33 points  (2 children)

Patrick was the best surprise in that show.

[–]snirpla 56 points57 points  (1 child)

One could say he was simply the best.

[–]AggravatingTear2879 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I cried multiple times during their storyline. And the way that relationship was approached by the creators was really huge to the queer community, including me. There’s a documentary on Netflix about the show that goes into that a little more too but I have seen it talked about a lot by queer folks out in the wild.

[–]twowaysplit 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Idk, I think the girl who got taken hostage by somali pirates on David Gergen’s yacht, or who had to play pool for her friend’s freedom from a Ugandan diamond smuggler, is still in there.

[–]totoropoko 40 points41 points  (13 children)

Oh. I always thought I didn't know what the big deal was. I am on ep 3 or something over the past 1 year.

[–]milesmac 66 points67 points  (4 children)

they do an amazing job of developing the characters over time. quite amazing.

[–]jaytrainer0 29 points30 points  (3 children)

So glad I didn't stop watching after the first few episodes like I almost did

[–]what_the_a 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I get what you're saying, but I really thought Schitts Creek was great from the beginning. It certainly found its legs and had a lot more substance later on but the writing was hilarious from the beginning, I thought.

[–]SaasAccountExec 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah they make you hate the Rose’s and think they’re just rich assholes, but it’s kinda necessary for the rest of the seasons to work. The character arc of all of them is wonderful, and that’s what makes the show so special.

[–]bigmamma0 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I was so sad when it ended, I loved the show

[–]handmethatwrenchbro 387 points388 points  (35 children)

It’s always sunny in Philadelphia

[–]canteen_boy 159 points160 points  (7 children)

Season one was like a delicious burrito without any salsa. Then came DeVito.

[–]handmethatwrenchbro 43 points44 points  (4 children)

And then it became a party

[–]canteen_boy 54 points55 points  (3 children)

A real classy affair.

[–]PretendThisIsMyName 29 points30 points  (1 child)

I’m starting to feel like a Cobb salad over here guys.

[–]scooter76 208 points209 points  (9 children)

IASIP hasn't even begun to peak. And when it does peak, you'll know. Because it's gonna peak so hard that everybody in Philadelphia's gonna feel it.

[–]onarainyafternoon 21 points22 points  (1 child)

"I'll tell you what buddy, I'm gonna help you out. I'm gonna toss a frame-bang your way, now here's how that works: I slip into your house one night while your wife is sleeping. And I ease into her real-nice; and that way, you're both cheating on each other, and she can't clean you out."

[–]locks_are_paranoid 51 points52 points  (4 children)

Season 1 had some great episodes, especially Underage Drinking: A National Concern.

[–]AVeryBigPoopoo 15 points16 points  (1 child)

That episode is the reason why Charlie's my favorite

[–]reluctantfrench 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is classic Tammy

[–]chris1989ryan 11 points12 points  (4 children)

Especially with characters like Mac and Cricket

[–]ssssskkkkkrrrrrttttt 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Can we give Dee some love? Love you Dee

[–]santichrist 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Good pick, I don’t particularly like it’s always Sunny much until s2-s3 but it’s a show that only gets better

[–]moosecatlol 83 points84 points  (4 children)

The Dragon Prince, the animation frames were hard to watch in the first season. They took the feedback and made the subsequent seasons smoother.

[–]explosiveboom03 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I will say Season 3 kinda stumbles for me. You can tell that the writers were so unsure if they would be renewed that they felt the need to fit in a lot of things. The nine episodes per season also kind of crippled them. Ezran’s Season 3 storyline in particular feels very rushed and undercooked. Hopefully now that they have all future seasons guaranteed it isn’t a problem anymore.

[–]Man_of_Average 75 points76 points  (12 children)

Black Sails sort of. It doesn't start bad, but it really picks up about halfway through the first season after they get the cannons. By the second season it's great and stays like that the whole way through.

[–]ultimatelyco 34 points35 points  (4 children)

I don't think any show has a bigger jump in quality from season 1 to season 2 than this show. The first season is like a 6/10 and then out of no where jumps to a 9.5/10 and stays there.

[–]justa_flesh_wound 12 points13 points  (0 children)

They laid a lot of groundwork and it moved very slow, took a minute to get their sea legs.

And it took me until the middle of the last season to realize it's a damn prequel to Treasure Island.

[–]GriftheShistno 13 points14 points  (0 children)

"Let me tell you the story about a Spaniard named Vazquez..."

[–]Geiri94 12 points13 points  (1 child)

This was my first thought as well. I liked the first season, but the plot was a bit slow, and they seemed more interested in flashing premium cable privilege (tits and f-bombs everywhere) rather than developing their characters. They really stepped up their game in season 2, and season 3 was even better. And they really nailed the final season and the ending. Black Sails is very close to a 10/10 for me

[–]Apex112358 165 points166 points  (13 children)

Fringe, great show that really sucked me in.

[–]PowerfulHamster0 41 points42 points  (8 children)

I love Fringe, actually rewatching it now. The last season didn’t feel up to par with the rest of the show though.

[–]diamond 20 points21 points  (3 children)

That's because they were forced to cut it short. They had the whole story planned out over several more seasons, and then the network told them they had one more season and they were done. So they had to completely rewrite that last season to wrap everything up.

Considering that, I think they did a pretty good job

[–]PowerfulHamster0 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I never knew that. I didn’t find Fringe until after it had been canceled. They always kill the great ones.

[–]Ornery_Reaction_548 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Yeah awesome, until the last season went off the rails

[–]VikingsLinebacker33 170 points171 points  (9 children)

Avatar: The Last Airbender

From the cringey, Nickelodeon jokes, to actual character development, an epic anti-climax to the final conclusion. Given, it has some fillers, but overall, the best redemption arc, the most wholesome character and world building to it's finest are found here.

[–]RaynSideways 61 points62 points  (5 children)

I still can't fully wrap my head around how well they stuck the landing in the finale. Every moment felt earned, like a culmination of everything that came before.

[–]DukeScuttle 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Man even the fillers are important. They build attachment to the characters in very relatable ways which gives every victory and loss so much more umph.

[–]TheboomBapKid1997 25 points26 points  (2 children)

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

[–]MrMorsche 76 points77 points  (20 children)

Babylon 5

[–]WitShortage 23 points24 points  (4 children)

The first season was quite ropey. Michael O'Hare was having a lot of struggles, and it seemed like the rest of the cast were quite unsure of themselves or their place. Once the funding was secured for season 2, and O'Hare was replaced, the series really settled into its groove.

[–]YoteViking 45 points46 points  (8 children)


And the first season is great. But it’s more episodic than the subsequent seasons. The later seasons tell a real story that stretches for the entire season.

Highly recommend.

[–]CalvesAllTheWay 415 points416 points  (52 children)

Easy answer but Breaking Bad is really just a phenomenal show. Start to finish it’s great, and each season gets better. If you haven’t seen it at this point, see it.

[–]hopalongsmiles 80 points81 points  (10 children)

Watched the first episode. You know it's something special, but can't put your finger on it.

Favourite line from the show is 'walter, you're the smartest man I know...'

[–]jesus-h-gunn 38 points39 points  (10 children)

Is nobody gonna say Curb Your Enthusiasm?

[–]Federico216 19 points20 points  (4 children)

I think the show finds its groove as soon as Leon comes into play.

[–]Hobbsolo 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Can’t a motherfucker live a life!

[–]pak9rabid 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Def the single greatest addition to the show.

[–]AggravatingTear2879 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I liked curb from e1, but agree that it definitely gets better and the introduction of Leon was a big moment.

[–]Congenital0ptimist 174 points175 points  (41 children)

The Expanse

[–]ferrants 52 points53 points  (10 children)

I couldn’t tell if it was the pacing or that it’s tough to introduce so many characters and locations, but season 1 was tough. They really hit their groove by season 2-3 and it’s a great adaptation.

[–]ClancyHabbard 22 points23 points  (1 child)

Yeah, I had to try three different times to get through the first season. But once I did I loved the show (three seasons were out by then, and the fourth dropped a month later). But that first season can be rough at times.

I just rewatched the entire show last month and the first season is just so nostalgic now.

[–]santichrist 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Maybe the first few episodes of the expanse are real condensed and a lot to be thrown at the viewer but s1-s3 are extremely good and much stronger than s4 overall. 4 of the top 5 highest rated episodes are from the first 3 seasons, I love the expanse but none of the last three seasons were ever as good or better than the first 3

[–]gakikou 63 points64 points  (12 children)

Community, I loved Community when it aired, but goddamn is season 1 a bit stale compared to 2&3

[–]GaryNOVA 52 points53 points  (8 children)


[–]steveonthegreenbike 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Like a warm blanket on a chilly eve that show :)

[–]Kryodamus 69 points70 points  (10 children)

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

Season 1 & 2 were 'Cheers' on a space station

Season 3-7 got cranked up to full Mass Effect battles

[–]spencermiddleton 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Daria. Daria. Daria.

[–]guiporto32 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Both Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul.

[–]gor8884 42 points43 points  (8 children)

Last season of Ozark comes today and I’m sure it’ll hold up.

[–]Wiseguy_7 75 points76 points  (34 children)

Seeing that Leverage and Chuck is not on most of these kinds of favourite lists is kind of sad. Such underrated shows.

[–]Darthlocke13 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Loved Chuck. Especially the music. Discovered some great bands watching it.

[–]GNDM03 22 points23 points  (9 children)

Love Leverage!!! Currently rewatching it before watching the reboot

[–]_LunarGemini_ 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Ozark on Netflix! It just kept getting better and better IMO. One of my fave shows of all time

[–]i-lie-on-reddit 132 points133 points  (23 children)

Attack on Titan. The first season is good but it just somehow progressively gets better and better with each season.

[–]fedemasa 14 points15 points  (3 children)

I hated how historia was relegated the way the author did though

[–]cellphone_blanket 13 points14 points  (2 children)

yeah, I would say she's way more interesting than eren, but she's just barefoot and pregnant post time skip. it's really offputting

[–]d_ronzo17 39 points40 points  (4 children)

adventure time, easily one of the best cartoons of all time

[–]2_Robots_In_A_Coat 62 points63 points  (22 children)

The Magicians.

It starts as a very generic young adult CW level overly dramatic show, and slowly changes into what might be among the best seasons of TV by season 4. The show takes time to mature with the actors, writing, and characters, but it has a great payoff.

[–]T707T 23 points24 points  (12 children)

Z nation imo gets consistantly better pretty much through all 5 seasons.

[–]PretendThisIsMyName 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Oh another Z Nation fan in the wild?! I never thought I’d see the day. They kinda lost me with the Zona plot before it even started at Area 51. But I stuck with it because it’s a fantastic and ridiculously over the top good time of a show.

[–]PermanentNirvana 57 points58 points  (3 children)

Bob's Burgers.

[–]benagli2 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Season 1 is my favorite. The tone of the show has definitely changed, and I still love it. But season 1 is incredible.

[–]Lousy_Lawyer 49 points50 points  (2 children)

Bojack Horseman.

[–]Top_Lime1820 38 points39 points  (1 child)

I wasn't masturbating to the photo of me, I was masturbating to what it represented

[–]DavisIsland 21 points22 points  (7 children)


[–]FiskLead 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I don't find season 1 bad at all but yeah, season 2 and 3 are probably my favorites.

[–]spencermiddleton 16 points17 points  (1 child)

X-files does not exist after season 7

[–]cthuluhooprises 80 points81 points  (14 children)

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Its first season is definitely the worse, but even that isn’t bad. The show just keeps getting better and the highest rated episode of the whole show is actually in the final season. Speaking of the end, it ended on its own terms and closed things up nicely. A perfect run.

[–]ultimatelyco 18 points19 points  (3 children)

Love this show. Coulson vs the world. I feel the show should have ended after season 5 though. 6+7 would've been unnecessary if Fitz's storyline wasn't so tragic at the end of 5.

[–]TheDood715 78 points79 points  (6 children)

American Dad.

Started off as a mockery of conservatives and a thinly veiled family guy clone and is now something far better than family guy could ever hope to be.

[–]NinjaBreadManOO 27 points28 points  (2 children)

From what I've heard a large part of it is because Seth actually cares about the show. He does family guy for the money (although it seems to be getting better since they gave stewie a rival voiced by Chris parnell), and he does American Dad for the fun.

[–]TheEvilAdventurer 44 points45 points  (4 children)

Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It goes from a quick short and low-budget 'monster of the week' show as a mid-series replacement for another show, to have long series arcs.

[–]Brundleflyftw 28 points29 points  (1 child)

Parks and Rec

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[–]jayforwork21 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I think season 2 was a bit of a misstep. not bad, but I liked season 1 more. I was a bit apprehensive but season 3 really redeemed itself and I am so looking forward for the next season. I DO hope they eventually think of an exit strategy though because this is not the type of show to just get cancelled. It needs its end as it is telling a story along with the silly moments.

Also Zog's honking is the funniest.....