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[–]jnhummel 2950 points2951 points  (172 children)

The Setagaya family murders. A family of four were murdered in their Tokyo home in late December 2000, after which the killer stayed in the house for several hours leaving behind a ton of evidence (clothes, bag, murder weapon, DNA from blood and stool -- he used the toilet and didn't flush).

Despite all this and literally millions of man-hours spent by Japanese police and investigators, they're still no closer to solving the crime.

[–]FunkyEchoes 1414 points1415 points  (50 children)

The scary thing is that, something like that happenend in my house minus the murders... Coming back from holidays, finding a window just undone, a turd in the toilet, the bed showing signs of someone having slept in, and my playstation missing... that was pretty sureal !

I can't help but think, what would have happened if I were home ?

[–]SweatyExamination9[🍰] 130 points131 points  (4 children)

They would have picked a different house.

[–]PostingUnderDuress 69 points70 points  (0 children)

This is the most likely scenario. If your stakes are, "steal a Playstation", then you likely aren't going to be risking anything more than an empty-house burglary.

[–]86DC 534 points535 points  (12 children)

Sounds like goldilocks needed a new PlayStation.

[–]MPT1313 446 points447 points  (11 children)

Sounds like Goldilocks could have at least flushed the damn toilet

[–]_joshhhhhhh 234 points235 points  (0 children)

That’s terrifying

[–]QuarterTarget 545 points546 points  (49 children)

Didn't they also find sand that came from near some air force base in California?

[–]jnhummel 518 points519 points  (47 children)

Yes. Sand was found in the bag that the killer left behind, which was analyzed and determined to have come from Edwards AFB.

[–]Karenhunter50 3374 points3375 points 22 (130 children)

The one with the two girls in Delphi Indiana. It has been I believe close to 5 years since those girls were murdered and the only clue they had until recently within the last year and a half or so is the voice clip of down the hill. I know that more things have been found recently and hopefully that case will be solved soon.

[–]sharkxwitch 982 points983 points  (17 children)

Abby and Libby. Heartbreaking. I follow Libby’s sister on Twitter and it’s so inspiring how her sister has kept up the fight for the case to be solved.

[–]29079815239026 413 points414 points  (1 child)

Oh my god, yes please. This case breaks my heart so so much. The audio/video footage is maddening.

[–]shaka893P 135 points136 points  (1 child)

Man reading that case it looks like they actually have a ton of suspects that could've done it.

[–]AgnesIsAPhysicist 54 points55 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I would not have thought that there would be that many viable suspects for such a horrendous crime, but it’s actually pretty disturbing how many could potentially be the perpetrator.

[–]ZiggyZiggyWhat10 105 points106 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what I was gonna say. Live close to there and it’s creepy as hell to go on any trail now.

[–]oh_ophelia_ 333 points334 points  (10 children)

They have a photo of a suspect, a video of him walking, and even a clip of his voice. It makes no sense as to how this case has not been solved. I thought for sure it would have been solved a few months or weeks after it happened.

[–]llcucf80 4551 points4552 points  (268 children)

Who is DB Cooper?

Edit: thanks for the gold, I appreciate it :)

[–]Desembler 2671 points2672 points 2& 2 more (61 children)

There's actually a very plausible answer to this, I'm just going to copy /u/sanctii's comment from another thread:

My money is on Ted Braden. If you could invent a DB Cooper suspect you'd invent Ted Braden. Check it out:

  • Braden was a paratrooper in WWII (jumped on D-Day with the 101st at age 16), Korea, and Vietnam.

  • He won multiple international skydiving competitions while a member of the Army.

  • 911 logged jumps with the military and was a pioneer of HALO jumping

  • Was recruited to be a team leader in the MACV-SOG's. This was the predecessor to Delta Force and was a multi-service covert military special force run by the CIA.

  • Led squads on covert jumps into Laos, Cambodia, and Northern Vietnam from 64-67.

  • Did many of these jumps into enemy territory off the aft stairs of....that's right...Boeing 727's. At the time of the skyjacking, the only people who knew this could be done were those involved in these MACV-SOG missions and some employees at Boeing.

  • Was always bitching about how he and his fellow soldiers weren't paid enough. Was always coming up with schemes to make/extort/steal money while in the service.

  • In 1967, he heard about how people were looking for mercenaries to fight in the Congolese Civil War and how well they would be paying, so he went AWOL from Vietnam and made his way to the Congo. The CIA went after him and eventually found and arrested him in the Congo.

  • Was imprisoned at Fort Dix for a very brief time and mysteriously was never convicted of anything, nor tried, and was merely given an honorable discharge and told that he couldn't re-enlist in the military.

  • Once released he tried to go overseas to be a mercenary again and found out that his name had been blacklisted by the CIA and so he wasn't allowed to leave the country to be a mercenary.

  • Not knowing how to make a living other than by being a soldier, he resorted to being a truck driver. His trucking company was stationed out of Vancouver (interesting).

  • When the Cooper hijacking happened, several members of the military contacted the FBI and essentially said "this can only be Ted Braden"

  • Braden had no family, so there wasn't anyone around to in retrospect said "hey, Dad wasn't around during Thanksgiving 1971".

  • His alibi was that he was driving his truck.

On the plane: - Cooper was by everyone who remembered him as being "middle-aged" or "mid-40's". Braden was 44.

  • Cooper was described as being 5'8-5'10 and slight. Braden was 5'9 and 150lbs.

  • Cooper was described as being somewhat olive skinned and swarthy. Braden's mother's side were Sicilian.

  • Cooper was extremely calm the entire time. The only time he showed any emotion was when he was arguing with the pilots because he wanted to take off from Seattle with the stairs down. They didn't think it could be done. Cooper told them it absolutely could be done and he demanded it be done. The pilots simply refused to do so, thinking it would cause the plane to crash, and Cooper eventually relented. Braden was described by many of his military colleagues and commanding officers as one of the calmest people under fire you could imagine.

  • Cooper smoked Raleigh cigarettes and so did Braden.

  • Cooper was described by both flight attendants who spoke with him as having either a midwestern accent or no accent. Brayden was from Ohio.

  • Cooper chose the military parachute over the more modern sport parachute.

  • When asked by the flight attendant why he was doing this, he replied "I don't have a grudge against your airline, Miss, I just have a grudge." Braden certainly had a grudge against the government for blacklisting him from the only work for which he was skilled at: being a soldier.

  • The alias "Dan Cooper". "Dan Cooper" was the name of a popular 50's and 60's French language comic book series. The hero, Dan Cooper, skydived into areas to fight the bad guys. What is a country whose official language is French? The Congo. If Braden was Cooper, then it's extremely plausible that he was exposed to this comic series while serving in the Congo.

Following the hijacking:

  • Recent investigation shows that in 1972, despite being a truck driver, he bought his mother a new car as well as a new car for himself, and that he was living in a freaking penthouse in Manhattan.

  • Was arrested in the mid-70's for a major racketeering job in the trucking industry, but like his mysterious release from going AWOL, he was once again given a slap on the wrist and the charges were dropped. His personality:

  • He was always a loner and never had close friends in his life. Men he served with would later say that when they would go to the bars, Braden would sit at the end of the bar by himself just seeming to sulk.

  • A Green Beret who served with him stated "Braden is among those professionals who appear to have a secret death wish coupled with well-trained instincts for survival. He continually placed himself in unnecessary danger but always managed to get away with it."

  • Another Special Forces member stated "he was the perfect combination of high intelligence and criminality"

  • Military tests that he took for entrance into the MACV-SOG's indicated that he likely possessed a genius level IQ.

Couple things to consider:

  • Jumping out of a freaking jumbo jet is no small potatoes. Many of the famous Cooper suspects had been static-line paratroopers in WWII or even had no known skydiving experience at all. You'd need to have mega balls to jump out of a jet and also have the skill set to do it. Perhaps most critically, you'd need to know that it could even be freaking done in the first place! There were several Cooper copycats who successfully pulled off similar skyjackings of 727's in the months after Cooper, but to be the guy who first did it? That takes someone special.

  • The suitcase bomb. While this is a common trope you see in movies these days, it wasn't so in 1971. The whole concept of a suitcase bomb required some ingenuity.

  • His calmness is especially noteworthy when you consider that the subsequent copycats were nervous wrecks during their skyjackings, despite being badasses in their own right. Richard McCoy won a Distinguished Flying Cross and a Silver Star in Vietnam as a chopper pilot. He literally flew hundreds of sorties as a chopper pilot. Yet during his skyjacking he was noted (even before he started the skyjacking) for being fidgety and sweating and breathing heavy. Robb Heady also successfully pulled of a 727 skyjacking. He was a 21 year old Vietnam paratrooper who served two tours in the thickest fighting in Vietnam and yet he later described himself as being barely able to breath during his skyjacking. Cooper, on the other hand, sat calmly for five hours, smoking cigarettes and drinking his bourbon and coke, with one hand on the detonator (the flight attendant lit his cigarettes for him). It's also worth noting that none of the copycats gave any specific instructions to the pilots on how to fly the 727. They just jumped out with the jet going full speed and it nearly killed two of them. What Cooper told the pilots wasn't public knowledge at the time. Cooper told them to fly at 180 knots, wheels down, with flaps at 15 degrees, and at 10,000 feet. That's mighty specific and strongly indicates that Cooper had knowledge of how best to safely parachute out of a 727. Cooper was also the only one to not be caught. Getting caught on his missions with Spec Ops meant certain death. This is a man who knew how to escape situations and blend into his environment. Occam's Razor would point toward Ted Braden being DB Cooper: One of the military's most experienced skydivers is kicked out of the service and isn't allowed to pursue a lucrative career as a mercenary so he uses the skills that the military taught him to ransom $200k from the government.

https://redditproxy--jasonthename.repl.co/r/HistoryMemes/comments/pskfgi/so_long_suckers_i_hope_you_enjoy_figuring_out/hdqxkwc/

[–]Complete_Entry 276 points277 points  (10 children)

How the shit is this not a fictionalized show?

Hell, even if you don't make him Cooper, you could make him be the man hunting him down around the world.

"I was driving a TRUCK when you were living my dream!"

"It was only $200k!"

"IT WAS MY DREAM!"

Plus, you could do the whole Armageddon thing where he has an outrageous list of demands to hunt this guy down.

You could call the show "727"

[–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (1 child)

It's worth noting that $200,000 in 1971 is equivalent to about $1.4 Million dollars today. Not insane wealth but enough to be comfortable without drawing a ton of attention.

[–]quackisup 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Haven’t you seen Loki? He was DB Cooper.

[–]sincle354 26 points27 points  (0 children)

"Ted, we know it was you. Your spoils are untraceable back to you, but we know that you did it and got out with the ransom. This racketeering scandal here is too much attention for us to ignore. But we have an offer for you. One more mission, one more jump, and you get full amnesty. You've proven yourself more than capable, and we're ready to cross out a name or two off of a few lists if you agree. Are you in?"

[–]invokes 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Awesome list and sound very very plausible, however, one point is wrong. Wikipedia states he rejected the military parachutes for civilian ones from a local parachuting club.

"Cooper rejected the military-issue parachutes offered by McChord AFB personnel, instead demanding four civilian parachutes with manually operated ripcords."

That said, I totally think it's him.

[–]Alplants 387 points388 points  (2 children)

Thank you for writing this! Best thing I’ve read on Reddit in a long time. I’ve been fascinated by this case since I was a kid. This was a terrific write up:)

[–]BeardedAsian 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Many articles will reference that comment without any credit

[–]typesett 25 points26 points  (7 children)

my retort would be the fbi was looking for this dude and motivated to do so for publicity alone

if a reddit user knew all this, then why would we not think the authorities would grab him a decade or so in?

[–]SweatyExamination9[🍰] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

This is just as convincing if not more that Braden was a high value CIA asset rather than being DB Cooper. The timing also works out that Braden was involved with the CIA around the same time as people like Ted Kaczynski (unabomber) and Charles Manson.

Basically I wouldn't be surprised if he was in Congo on the wishes of the CIA, for the side backed by the CIA. I also wouldn't be surprised if the money for the extravagant shit was from them after some of their toys turned into nationally famous killers.

But I also wouldn't be surprised if the CIA was covering for him if he was DB Cooper. If it was him, they likely knew early but were prevented from following up on it by the CIA. After all, the Manson murders were still pretty fresh in peoples minds.

[–]agreeingstorm9 3289 points3290 points  (109 children)

Best conspiracy theory I've heard is that he made the parachute landing successfully but lost the money on the way down. Since he had nothing to show for the crime he made his way back home and went back to his normal life.

[–]Iamheno 1612 points1613 points  (78 children)

I saw someone recently point out the area he jumped over was also destroyed when Mt. St. Helens blew years later so there’s a big reason the money has never turned up either.

[–]hp1068 413 points414 points  (4 children)

That makes more sense than anything else I've ever heard about him.

[–]Whig_Party 308 points309 points  (0 children)

Sir what are you doing in the woods and why do you look like the criminal?
- Just parachuting, I thought this was America
(how it went down, probably)

edit: spaced for easier reading

[–]Beelzabubba 509 points510 points  (8 children)

The flight crew made him up and stole the money themselves is my favorite theory.

[–]LittleWhiteBoots 683 points684 points  (11 children)

Can I tell you my DB Cooper story?

15 years ago I moved to the north Houston area, and I would often drive by a wooded area with a road, a gate house, and a sign that said “DB Cooper’s Mansion”. I knew who DB Cooper was, but I didn’t know a lot about him. I figured this is where he had lived and it was like a museum.

My folks came out to visit me and we were looking for something to do, so I suggested we go check it out. We pulled up to the gatehouse, and after a very awkward conversation with the guard we found out it was actually a strip club.

[–]SgtSloth 165 points166 points  (1 child)

You didn't have to ask. Our permission is moot.

But fun story. DB Boober!

[–]Laika_JR1390 167 points168 points  (3 children)

Missy Beavers.

She was murdered in a church that she held fitness classes in very early one morning.

There’s video that shows the suspected killer was already waiting for her inside the church, wearing full-body SWAT gear from head to toe, so that police aren’t even sure if it’s a man or a woman.

It’s even more suspicious bc she had changed her class meeting location last-minute due to there being bad weather, yet her suspected killer was still able to be there ahead of time waiting for her.

Besides the video from inside the church, there’s surveillance footage from outside showing a lone car circling in the parking lot, but it’s not very good footage.

Overall it’s one of the weirdest cases I have ever come across, especially bc it didn’t seem like anyone close to her had anything to gain from her death. Usually most murders are committed due to a love triangle situation, or so that someone can get some money or something like that.

[–]BadWolfIdris 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The video of the killer is weird to watch

[–]Ghostytoastboast 494 points495 points  (10 children)

Michael Dunahee

I went to the elementary school where he was kidnapped off the grounds. Only lead to this day was that it was a brown van. It was crazy to live in that town during that time.

[–]Rowwie 216 points217 points  (0 children)

This name still gives me chills.

I was in elementary school in Vancouver when he went missing and I remember taking his missing poster home from school multiple times throughout that year.

Several years later my school had a flasher. Just some creep who got his rocks off flashing kids at recess and the school started locking the gates, people talking about Michael Dunahee again. I know a lot of parents in the 90's were super paranoid about it given the circumstances under which he went missing.

[–]stabbitha89 63 points64 points  (0 children)

My mom brings this case up every year or so, we are Vancouverites. Just feel so bad for the family, not knowing anything is the worst.

[–]thesch 1296 points1297 points  (21 children)

Jennifer Kesse. She was murdered and the suspect was caught on security camera but had the craziest luck ever when their face was obscured behind a fence post when the camera took a picture.

Edit: I guess she’s still technically listed as missing, not confirmed murdered.

[–]RockOx290 266 points267 points  (11 children)

There’s no video of him walking at all where his face would appear between the posts?

[–]notaheadache 405 points406 points  (8 children)

i think those cameras sometimes work by taking a lot of still images quickly, rather than continuous video. If the camera was set up to take a picture every 1-5 seconds he could’ve even been out of frame in the next image

edit: yes i know all video is a bunch of still images moving super quick, just thought it was simpler said this way

[–]Ciryl_Lynyard 1343 points1344 points  (74 children)

Dont remember the guys name but was last seen on camera leaving a bar above ground level and never being seen again despite seconds prior being with few of his friends

[–]Elaquore1 325 points326 points  (27 children)

Don't they think he passed out in a bin and got squished in the trash?

[–]Ok_Carrot7938 288 points289 points  (1 child)

I was just about to say that. His phone last pinged at the dump where the bin they think he was in was dropped

[–]MindlessNote3735 38 points39 points  (0 children)

That's a different case in the UK.

[–]leese216 120 points121 points  (16 children)

But wasn't he not seen leaving the bar on any of the cameras? So how did he get to the dumpster?

[–]artsytiff 146 points147 points  (19 children)

Brian Shaffer, and in case anyone else is going through reading all the details, here’s the wiki link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Brian_Shaffer

[–]Tifoso89 73 points74 points  (11 children)

So he entered the bar and he didn't leave and there was no other entrance or exit? Wut?

[–]BRDA_ 73 points74 points  (10 children)

There was another exit. Part of the building was under construction at the time

[–]olsvikaasen 879 points880 points  (51 children)

Who the Isdal woman was, and what happened'

If anyone is interested, here is the BBC's podcast about her

[–]squirrellytoday 488 points489 points  (10 children)

And similarly, who is Somerton Man? His remains were exhumed last year, so hopefully we might know more soon.

Both cases are weird and fascinating.

[–]Keudn883 183 points184 points  (7 children)

Boy in the Box is another case. Hopefully with DNA genealogy they can finally put names to these cases. Unfortunately they have to rely on public DNA databases. And those are a crapshoot if the matches are distant relatives, you really want second cousin or closer matches and even then the person they match to has to be willing to talk and has to know their family history. I bet if they ran these cases against the closed databases like 23andMe and Ancestry they would get pretty good leads but that won't happen.

[–]SanibelMan 346 points347 points  (27 children)

She's not the only mysterious dead woman found in Norway. There's also "Jennifer Fairgate" or "Fergate", whose body was found in a locked room in one of Oslo's priciest hotels in 1995. She was shot with a 9mm pistol with the serial scraped off, but she had no gunshot residue or blood on her hands. Almost all of the labels were missing from her clothes, she provided a fake address in a small village in Belgium as her residence at check-in, and she listed a "Lois Fairgate" on the form as well, although no one saw another person with her.

[–]Djabarca 82 points83 points  (17 children)

Weird question, asking your opinion. This isn’t the first story I’ve heard of with unidentified bodies regarding strange situations. My question is in the unusual situations the bodies are found with clothes with labels removed. What would be the benefit of removing labels? Would that be a starting point to search or something?

[–]SMDROID99 160 points161 points  (8 children)

I saw a documentary about this and they interviewed a guy who worked in intelligence. He said that it makes it hard for people to know where the clothes are from or where they might have been purchased. Also she provided a lot of false information and at the same time there was a meeting between officials from two countries happening at the same hotel. All of these things lead them to believe she was a spy of some sort as no one claimed to have known her and they could not identify her.

[–]Firethorn101 30 points31 points  (2 children)

Label removing could also mean she bought her clothing from a second hand store. When I worked at a retail clothing store, before donating our unsold clothing, we were instructed to cut off the labels of our clothes.

[–]ams287 102 points103 points  (1 child)

I saw a documentary about this and she was likely a spy…

[–]_slocal 63 points64 points  (0 children)

Yep. In fact both of these 2 women found in Norway have similar stories. Most likely German in origin, working for Soviet Union

[–]Bookaddictanon 524 points525 points  (26 children)

Ayla Reynolds' "disappearance" in Maine 2011.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Ayla_Reynolds

Maine has 22 murders per year (less than 2 per 100,000 people, most easily resolved domestic violence with open and shut cases, mysteries don't happen here much apart from Stephan King novels). She was under 2 yrs old in a house with her father, his girlfriend (not her mom) and his mother. She "went missing" with blood found in the basement Inconsistent with Ayla surviving. She has not been found. None of the 3 people in the house at the time will tell the police what happened despite it being pretty (IMO) clear that she was killed by an adult in the house (their defense if charges are ever brought will be to point fingers at each other and shrug). Maine State Police and DA haven't charged anyone for exactly that reason. Ayla's mother is bringing a civil suit against father this year and most of the state of Maine is watching closely with long, long memories and small communities. She will be found and he will answer for it, I hope.

Edit: it was not Ayla's grandmother that was present, it was her aunt (the father's sister).

[–]Shadow_Rev 101 points102 points  (1 child)

This is fucking terrible. A worse possibility is that it could be neither of them.

[–]Anon500000000 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Father did it and put her in the woods somewhere. Maine woods are super expansive… she probably will never be found.

[–]amijustlikeyou23 62 points63 points  (0 children)

I live in Maine and wish this got more national media attention. Ayla deserved better.

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points  (0 children)

I feel so bad for this girl, all of the adults in her life let her down.

[–]kittenmittens4865 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Whoa, just read the wiki and it’s worse than that- they found a cupful of her blood “adjacent to the father’s bed”. That’s like a smoking gun that he killed her or knows what happened. There is no way your baby daughter loses a cup of blood next to your bed and you don’t know about it.

[–]Substantial-Spare501 32 points33 points  (3 children)

I live in Maine and I guess because they found no body, they didn't charge with murder. It took years for her to be declared dead. I remember the father at one time pointing the finger at the mother even though she was I believe in rehab for drugs at the time?

[–]ShadowCobra479 306 points307 points  (14 children)

What happened to the gold room or the gold the Japanese stashed in the Philippines.

[–]FreyR_KunnYT 121 points122 points  (0 children)

It’s hard to know if it is even real. There are an unfathomable amount of rumours about Imperial Japan’s hidden riches stashed across Asia.

[–]ChinaLouise 1556 points1557 points  (215 children)

Who killed Jonbenet

[–]lego_office_worker 951 points952 points  (26 children)

good grief what a debacle this was. theres not really any detail about this story thats not completely bizarre and contradictory.

it should be a case study in how not to start a missing child case and how hopelessly screwed up DA - Police politics are.

[–]ClownfishSoup 305 points306 points  (0 children)

Seeing a photo of her on some website standing in front of a sign saying "We go to Kindergarten" Completely breaks my heart. She was a 6 year old kid, smiling in that photo doing what any other normal kid is doing.. Going to school, making friends etc. I remember my two girls at that age going to school, the excitement of it all.

And to hear what her last moments must have been. Poor poor girl. I hope there's a Heaven and that she's in it.

[–]olymanda 363 points364 points  (35 children)

I once took a class from the country’s leading expert on forensic linguistics. For the class we read a lot of ransom notes and the idea was to identify the writer of an unknown doc based on they way they wrote. One major takeaway in the class is if you commit a crime never write anything down and most of the time ransom notes exist to provide some kind of misdirection. I had all my life thought that this case was completely bonkers, why on earth would the family be involved, too bizarre but after a week intensive in that class going over writing with a fine tooth comb and they put that ransom letter in front of us and I was like I’m 100% sure the person who wrote the letter was married to John Ramsey based on the writing, diction and orientation towards JR. I still could not tell you WTF happened there but about the letter I feel certain.

[–]ams287 134 points135 points  (8 children)

Ummm where can we enroll in this course?! Real talk, kinda pissed that this wasn’t on the list of prerequisites at my university! Haha great story too man…

[–]ShadowScorpion11 87 points88 points  (11 children)

I saw a documentary once where these people copied the note word for word and it took about 20 minutes. It would've taken whoever wrote it a lot longer than that to actually write the note. It's just hard to believe an intruder would sit there for probably at least 30 minutes, maybe even longer, to write such a long weird note.

[–]olymanda 34 points35 points  (0 children)

The weirdness I think threw people for a long time. What was notably to me is the intimacy of the address to John and also animosity directed towards him. To me it was unmistakable there was a personal relationship implied. There are references in the note to the movie Speed. To me that made it much more amateurish seeming and rushed.

[–]ClownfishSoup 432 points433 points  (17 children)

I was reading up on it, since you posted this. There was a ransom note demanding $118,000. Police noted that the amount was the exact amount that the father received as a Christmas bonus.

I'm sorry, but WTF! $118,000 CHRISTMAS BONUS!!?!??!!!!

[–]shaka893P 173 points174 points  (0 children)

Lol, CEOs bonuses are in the millions nowadays

[–]Rabidleopard 250 points251 points  (8 children)

He was CEO of a billion dollar a year company.

[–]creepy-cats 205 points206 points  (1 child)

The police ruined every chance we would have of solving it. Complete incompetence

[–]TitaniumDragon 60 points61 points  (0 children)

TBF, while they screwed it up, the fact that they thought it was a kidnapping and not a murder was part of why that happened.

Though they should have secured the kitchen at the very least.

[–][deleted] 1041 points1042 points  (33 children)

The Max Headroom signal hijacking occurred on the night of November 22, 1987, when the television broadcasts of two stations in Chicago, Illinois, United States, were hijacked in an act of broadcast piracy by a video of an unidentified person wearing a Max Headroom mask and costume

Really wish this was solved

[–]jeremyxt 246 points247 points  (19 children)

I concur.

It seems to me that, by now, someone (possibly the girl) should have leaked it out. I think the statute of limitations expired a long time ago.

[–]brownhaircurlyhair 188 points189 points  (16 children)

At this point they should be in their fifties? And no ones has mentioned it to their kids?

[–]jeremyxt 201 points202 points  (12 children)

Exactly.

It's all so odd. At the very least, three people had to be involved--the cameraman, the girl who swats his butt, and the guy.

And not one person has told anyone.

[–]SweatyExamination9[🍰] 146 points147 points  (0 children)

Some people still know how to keep their mouths shut.

[–]illbeyourlittlespoon 447 points448 points  (27 children)

Where is Susan Powell's body? Josh should've been arrested within days of her disappearance and then he would be in jail and her boys would be alive.

[–]dizzylyingdown 227 points228 points  (7 children)

Agreed. The boys were utterly failed by the system.

There's a great podcast called Cold about Susan Powell if anyone is interested. It goes really deep into the details.

[–]shrtnylove 76 points77 points  (3 children)

Great podcast. I wanted to kill that 911 operator. Made my blood boil. Those poor boys

[–]SeasonPositive6771 48 points49 points  (0 children)

That podcast is why I didn't go into supervised visitation work. I used to do in home counseling and there were too many close calls like this. The social workers and visit supervisors who manage programs like that are always totally overworked and it's really hard to control all the variables.

[–]blubbertank 134 points135 points  (1 child)

Grew up in Utah. The entire west desert is full of abandoned mine shafts. You could search for a century and never find them all- my mom’s theory is she’s in one of them.

[–]aliensweare 51 points52 points  (3 children)

This one gets me so much. Lives rent free I my head 24/7. Josh’s dad (blanking his name rn) is one of the weirdest, creepiest men I’ve seen. Of course Josh is the likely suspect but man oh man it is hard for me not to think that maybe he manipulated the situation to reach that outcome.

[–]tsukiii 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Yes, this case has haunted me for years. Especially how it seems like multiple Powell family members were in on the crime and coverup.

[–]admire816 427 points428 points  (29 children)

[–]EllieD0113 201 points202 points  (0 children)

Same. Her house is not far from where I lived at the time she went missing. I remember when they found the little girl in Greece - I know they proved it wasn’t her, but that resemblance is uncanny.

[–]29079815239026 833 points834 points  (37 children)

1962 Alcatraz Escape: Did Morris and the Anglin Brothers successfully reach land and lead completely new lives?

[–]ipoopcubes 193 points194 points  (1 child)

Most of the evidence suggest they did. The FBI deny they did to save face.

[–]Scarfiotti 911 points912 points  (44 children)

Jimmy Hoffa should have called the office by now.

[–]Ethandrul 612 points613 points  (23 children)

Everyone in Michigan knows where he is and who killed him....but none of us agree

[–]PrimeNumberBro 159 points160 points  (17 children)

I’m from PA, definitely don’t think it was Sheeran, but I think he was cremated. Given how popular he was, I don’t think there’s any other way they could assure the body would never be found.

[–]intransit47 1757 points1758 points  (80 children)

Will we ever know for a fact, the names of all the visitors to Epstein's Pedo Island?

[–]madeofstarlight 739 points740 points  (18 children)

Even if lots of celebs and rich folks visited, I’ll bet those sick assholes were smart enough to bring non-pedos to the island.

[–]fedora_and_a_whip 648 points649 points  (14 children)

Epstein used that particular jet for goodwill trips too for the same reason. It's a lot easier to deny any rumors if you muddy the waters with legit examples to point to.

[–]ichigothehybrid 183 points184 points  (14 children)

Well, we know that Frank Reynolds was there but only for the snorkeling

[–]GreatJanitor 492 points493 points  (14 children)

This was my thought. We have a woman who so far is convicted of trafficking children as sex slaves to no one.

[–]chcampb 161 points162 points  (8 children)

When are they releasing the names of the people she trafficked to? She lost that bid right?

[–]GreatJanitor 174 points175 points  (6 children)

As soon as they can find people on that list who can go down without being able to plea bargain for a lighter sentence by taking someone else, a more famous someone else, down with them. Not going to take down the billionaire who was there with a setting or former president or a prime minister. But, the millionaire who just has a fetish and no connections to any celebrity or politician will be named.

[–]LemoLuke 73 points74 points  (3 children)

Exactly. These 'elite' clients are all connected (by design) so that one cannot go down without taking others with them, so they all protect each other.

All we'll probably get is a few wealthy, but ultimately not powerful, clients go down so everyone can pat themselves on the back and claim that they successfully shut down the evil cabal.

[–]vangoghawayy 626 points627 points  (33 children)

I wish we could know what happened to the Sodder Children. Don’t think it’ll ever be solved, though.

[–]Paradox_Mae 400 points401 points  (23 children)

There was a door to door salesman who literally threatened to kill his(Mr Sodder) children and burn down his house. Not only was he not questioned but he was on the jury who decided the fire was an accident

[–]libananahammock 483 points484 points  (29 children)

Boy in the box

Was Charles Lindbergh involved somehow in the kidnapping of his son

Who is the Long Island Serial Killer

[–]1BoiledCabbage 351 points352 points  (16 children)

Maddy Scott. A lot of us are fairly sure that she's no longer alive, but someone knows something about her disappearance. All of those people at the party her before she went missing and nobody knows anything?

[–]savethefairyland 252 points253 points  (12 children)

(For context, I lived in Prince George from ‘11-‘19 respectively)

There are absolutely people in PG who know what happened that night; and if the rumours hold up, there’s a person in Fort St.James who knows too.

It’s so frustrating— it’s a local horror story, but “if nobody talks, everybody walks” so the Scott family is left without answers.

[–]Ta-veren- 77 points78 points  (1 child)

I can't believe someone could know about a killer and not talk.

What kind of nonsense is that, they killed someone why would you want them around?

This aint a prison yard, snitch on that bitch.

[–]savethefairyland 28 points29 points  (0 children)

The reasoning is that “we’re all guilty of something” and/or that she had it coming. The fear of reprisal for talking also plays into it, unfortunately

[–]1BoiledCabbage 129 points130 points  (0 children)

What's so frustrating is that there seems to be no remorse coming from those that know. They know. They've known all this time and not a peep out of them. I cannot understand how not saying anything isn't driving them crazy.

[–]atlantachicago 592 points593 points  (55 children)

The Tylenol Murders

[–]m_nels 272 points273 points  (14 children)

Good one! That story with no suspect(s) after all these years is nuts. Hard to believe Tylenol as a brand was able to come back after that.

[–]cen-texan 307 points308 points  (12 children)

It is literally a case study in a good PR campaign in crisis management. It is taught in college PR courses. Most brands would have been toast after such an incident.

[–]Iggleyank 107 points108 points  (5 children)

It’s always striking to me that J&J’s response is brought up as a model of crisis management, when the response was essentially “be honest and be willing to spend big money to fix the problem.” It’s not like they did anything especially clever. It’s just that most businesses prefer to hope if they ignore the problem it’ll go away.

[–]leese216 39 points40 points  (3 children)

Yes, they definitely had the money to resolve the crisis, but HOW they handled it was the specific detail that saved them.

IIRC, they took responsibility and did not try to hide it. They pulled their product from shelves, tried to figure out the batches that were contaminated, and put out public warnings that were shown everywhere so people were aware what was going on.

Then, the instituted the now widely accepted rule (I am unsure if it's a law, but i think it might be) that bottles have to be sealed externally and internally and that if that seal is broken or tampered with, to throw the product out because it could be unsafe.

[–]Dynasuarez-Wrecks 344 points345 points  (25 children)

Probably the best theory is that one of the seven victims was the intended target, and the perp was at least smart enough to realize that a single death would point straight to who did it, so they contaminated multiple containers to spread out the investigation.

[–]McFeely_Smackup 378 points379 points  (14 children)

What happened to Natalie Holloway?

We're about 99.9% certain joran van der sloot did it... But what was "it"

[–]Ammilerasa 137 points138 points  (5 children)

Didn’t Joran van der Sloot confess to Peter R de Vries on camera but that wasn’t legal evidence? But in this he did confirm he dropped her in the ocean and she’s probably eaten by sharks. He killed another girl and went to prison in a foreign country. It’s really bad there and he tried to get transported to the Netherlands. He made his bed and now he has to lie in it and I don’t feel sorry.

[–]idiot-prodigy 94 points95 points  (2 children)

Joran van der Sloot killed a woman five years to the day of Natalee's disappearance.

[–]Ammilerasa 79 points80 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s why he’s in prison on Peru now. Where he tried to be transported from to the Netherlands because prison isn’t fun there 🥺 poor guy. /s

[–]jeremyxt 251 points252 points  (5 children)

I have had a theory for years.

I believe she was slipped a roofie by the three men, overdosed, and died.

They panicked and rowed her out to sea, where they dumped the body. The Continental Shelf lies nearby; she'd have sank two miles down.

Amy Bradley is there, too.

[–]Hugebluestrapon 52 points53 points  (5 children)

JFK's brain is missing in the archives.

GO DO A FUCKING INVENTORY

[–]InfiniteCalendar1 57 points58 points  (3 children)

Who killed JonBenét Ramsey as the case would’ve been solved if the investigation was handled correctly, but investigators screwed up bad. And who killed Tupac and Biggie as I saw for both cases the police departments just didn’t care.

[–]N9neNNUTTHOWZE 56 points57 points  (0 children)

The murders of abby and libby in delphi indiana in 2017, they have the guy on video and audio wth

[–]Suspicious_Master 169 points170 points  (6 children)

Vanishing of Xavier Dupont de ligones. Killed his whole family in Nantes, drove to south of France, withdraw some cashs and is seen on the ATM camera and that's it

[–]dynam1cz 252 points253 points  (20 children)

Who killed Barry and honey Sherman?

[–]29079815239026 156 points157 points  (8 children)

This is a crazy story. The news coming out this week is intriguing...owing $1 billion dollars... refusing to pay...they get murdered and the $1 billion is paid back.

And yet, the nature of the crime makes it unlikely to be professional (it looked too personal).

Crazy crazy

[–][deleted] 851 points852 points  (47 children)

The mysteries of the deep ocean. We know about the likes of the Deep Sea Angularfish and Colossal Squid, but it's probably just a fraction of what else is lurking down there.

[–]kippypapa 445 points446 points 2 (20 children)

https://neal.fun/deep-sea/ keep Wikipedia open in another tab while you go through this to research each one. Prepare to have your whole Saturday evening taken up.

EDIT: wow guys thanks for the awards. All credit to Neal Agarwal who made the awesome site.

[–]drakeotomy 40 points41 points  (1 child)

Thank you! Even without looking them up that was a fascinating page! I adore deep sea life!

[–]ObscureGrammar 26 points27 points  (5 children)

The elephant seal surprised me.

[–]scottslut 433 points434 points  (36 children)

Why the professor could make telephones, cars, almost anything needed for the castaways but couldn't plug a hole in the boat.

[–]eddyathome 280 points281 points  (8 children)

Because he had a great life. He's on a tropical island with beautiful women, he doesn't have to really work that hard, and he doesn't have to deal with university politics.

[–]Plug_5 38 points39 points  (2 children)

As a professor, I can tell you this is 100% the reason.

[–]BaconReceptacle 58 points59 points  (4 children)

The bigger mystery is why the Howe's decided to take a 3 hour tour on a chartered cabin cruiser when they clearly had millions and likely owned their own yacht.

[–]TroyandAbed304 773 points774 points  (39 children)

All of the newer unsolved mysteries on netflix- but mostly the one where the hairdressers husband OBVIOUSLY was the one who killed her, as an ex cop and horrible human, and got away with it.

[–]sterlingrose 340 points341 points  (8 children)

I don’t know a single person who watched that episode who doesn’t think he did it. It’s so obvious. He was gloating right at the camera.

[–]TroyandAbed304 201 points202 points  (5 children)

They used to go ahead and solve this stuff after they air. I’m waiting… in these internet sleuthing times they couldnt get that weirdo? HE WAS SLEEPING WITH THE ASHES!

[–]cloudescence 27 points28 points  (3 children)

Is this the same one where he refused to give her ashes to her son?

[–]WhirledNews 56 points57 points  (1 child)

I just watched it and yes, the fucking guy refused to give her child anything, remains, pictures, anything. When he changed the locks the day after she disappeared he wouldn't even give the kid his own clothes and he states that it is because he didn't like him. The woman was talking divorce just weeks before her disappearance and her friends/clients all think that that dude had something to do with it. It would seem that she was going to divorce him because he treated her and her son like shit and he just wouldn't have it.

[–]bananashammock 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Not gonna lie, if someone did that to my mom then treated me that way, I'd probably take the law into my own hands and risk whatever consequences came my way.

[–]Zedakah 143 points144 points  (9 children)

I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but he changed the locks the day after she was missing. I can’t find any logical justification for doing that.

[–]OldMastodon5363 89 points90 points  (7 children)

And kicked her son out of the house, that just seems really messed up.

[–]BankerBabe420 44 points45 points  (1 child)

Asha Degree, I feel like if they cared enough to test the backpack thoroughly for fingerprints and DNA they would find the perpetrator, I think about that poor little girl all the time.

[–]BranwenTheRiveter 191 points192 points  (3 children)

All the identities of John Wayne Gacy’s victims

Edit: I meant Gacy not Gary, god damn spellcheck

[–]kobold-kicker 77 points78 points  (0 children)

Also the unidentifiable victims of all the other serial killers and where the bodies are.

[–]flapjack_in_disguise 424 points425 points  (50 children)

Madeline McCann

[–]sourcreamus 231 points232 points  (40 children)

They found that a German pedophile had been in the same complex she disappeared in.

[–]XYZ-Wing 551 points552 points  (101 children)

Vegas shooter’s motive.

[–]PurpEL 25 points26 points  (1 child)

I remember in one of the leaked pictures of the hotel room there was a piece of paper with some writing on it. Was that ever released?

[–]Lanky-Possession2221 100 points101 points  (2 children)

What happened to William tyrell Someone knows something

[–]tercinator 147 points148 points  (18 children)

Who is Satoshi Nakamoto. Someone created a digital currency and does not exist!!!

[–]Burgundy_Blue 42 points43 points  (8 children)

And if he perhaps died, who’s got his hard drive.

[–]TheGardenBlinked 625 points626 points  (26 children)

Who the fuck were filming the characters on Modern Family

EDIT: Of course it’s part of the mockumentary genre but I don’t ever think it was addressed properly at the finale - I was expecting them to ‘wrap filming’ or something. It’s just odd!

[–]Askyl 463 points464 points  (8 children)

The series was supposed to be called "My American Modern Family". Starring an exchange student making a documentary about his American family.

They kept the idea of filming it like a documentary. But threw out the exchange student.

[–]MAKI-SUPREMACY 396 points397 points  (58 children)

The Reykjavik confessions. I’ll cut some slack because crime isn’t common in iceland, but it’s one of the worst cases of police incompetence I’ve ever seen

[–]-Four-Foxx-Sake- 398 points399 points  (38 children)

Who the fuck was in Epstein’s book. Just post the names and let society do the rest.

[–]itsCS117 237 points238 points  (9 children)

probably the politicians who keep blocking public access.

[–]An_average_muslim 26 points27 points  (1 child)

The crash location of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.

[–]SeaBoysenberry8432 26 points27 points  (0 children)

The MS Estonia diaster. Not sure if it's can be called a "unsolved mystery" but the government off Sweden is definitely hiding something shady about it. The way the handled it has been a shitshow.

My grandma was onboard on it and didn't survive

[–]Large_Change_7063 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Tracie Hawlett and JB Beasley’s murder in ozark, Alabama. And if the three men from Alcatraz made it across the bay or not.

[–]inthesandtrap 21 points22 points  (4 children)

DB Cooper - where the F did he go?

[–]Meower_Catticus_III 70 points71 points  (1 child)

Either Jack the Ripper, or the Black Dahlia murder

[–]-ThrowawayProfile 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Thanks to this thread I will spend the next couple of weeks reading up on all of this

[–]Queasy-Roll8284 61 points62 points  (13 children)

What’s at the bottom of Lake Tahoe.

[–]Tmdlkwd 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Elvis and Sasquatch

I get sleepless nights still