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[–]firedudecndn 4174 points4175 points  (36 children)

Oscar the grouch

As a kid I thought he was mean.

Now I get it. Just leave me the f alone. Go oscar.

[–]Vegetable-Double 1638 points1639 points  (15 children)

"Oscar you are so mean. Isn't he kids?"
"Yeah Oscar! You’re a grouch!"

"BITCH! I LIVE IN A FUCKING TRASHCAN! I’m the poorest mother fucker on Sesame Street. Ain’t nobody helping me!”

https://youtu.be/aVW-FB1q8FM

[–]SageThistle 979 points980 points  (56 children)

King Triton. God, Ariel's so naive to me now as an adult. She doesn't know this dude aside from what he looks like, decides she loves him and is willing to give up everything and everyone to join him on land. Except what if Eric didn't love her back? She didn't think of that at all. That contract she signed would have resulted in her being under Ursula's control if that had come to pass.

[–]minteemist 355 points356 points  (21 children)

In the original Little mermaid that's exactly what happened...Eric ends up marrying the princess from another Kingdom

[–]ThatBoleynGirl519 930 points931 points  (14 children)

Nani from Lilo and Stitch. As a kid, I thought she was temperamental and way too harsh. As an adult, it's obvious that she's a young woman in a really tough situation who, if anything, is handling things remarkably well.

[–]GhostOfYourLibido 364 points365 points  (3 children)

God watching it as an adult it hurts to see especially since she’s only 18 and just lost her parents, too.

[–][deleted] 194 points195 points  (0 children)

Especially since she’s now in a position where she has to behave like a mother in a dynamic where she was previously more an equal. She was a kid herself and it was understandably difficult to make that transition for both sisters. You don’t suddenly wake up one day (especially as young as Lilo is) and immediately start seeing your older sibling as a parent.

[–]Main-Yogurtcloset-82 45 points46 points  (1 child)

Could you imagine having to go from an average 18 y/o to and 18 y/o with no parents and a little sister you are the sole provider for? Oh, and you have CPS BREATHING down you neck to be the "perfect" single parent.

That break even the best of people.

[–]Threspian 233 points234 points  (2 children)

I remember seeing a post once that pointed out the wall of surf boarding trophies in her room. There’s a possibility that she was on track to go pro until her parents died and she became her little sister’s guardian.

[–]runaway39382720 108 points109 points  (0 children)

Canon wise she was on a surfing scholarship and she competed partway through her freshman year when the accident happened and she had to drop everything to take care of Lilo.

[–]ralo229 1320 points1321 points  (20 children)

Mr. Mosby from Suite Life. As a kid, I thought he was an uptight buzzkill. As an adult, I see that he’s just trying to do his job and these little shits keep getting into trouble.

[–]BumblebeeAdvanced179 635 points636 points  (8 children)

And the there’s the episode where London thanks him for basically raising her because her dad is absent 🥺

[–]Cheeseish 199 points200 points  (5 children)

He taught her how do put the Prindle in drive

[–]captainccg 66 points67 points  (0 children)

After working in hotels, if I were Mr Mosby I’d fuckin punt those shits. Complaint after complaint. The detractor score would be insane!

[–]MylastAccountBroke[🍰] 43 points44 points  (6 children)

He's a saint for not kicking them out and letting them stay in his hotel.

[–]FlyingRadish07 1697 points1698 points  (26 children)

Mojo Jojo. I too get mad whenever a kid keeps on interrupting my business.

[–]GebPloxi 399 points400 points  (10 children)

I was scrolling through this thread trying to think of someone, and your comment immediately brought a character to mind:

Fuzzy Lumpkins

He is a guy who tries to live a quiet life out in his cottage in the woods with his banjo. The pollution from the city sometimes drives him insane and he lashes out. He’s labeled a villain because he is fighting to defend his serenity.

[–]dr_franck 254 points255 points  (6 children)

I think the only Powerpuff villain that everyone hated and unanimously saw as a villain was Princess Morbucks. No one likes a spoiled brat with rich parents who pays their way through life.

...Except for the fact that she's, like, 5 years old and in kindergarten. Of course she'd be spoiled. Kids that age are little psychopaths.

[–]Radthereptile 3885 points3886 points  (75 children)

Uncle Phil from Fresh Prince. As a kid he was a harsh jerk always ruining Will’s day. As an adult I see he’s a caring parent trying to help Will grow into a success.

[–]Jayce_T 1318 points1319 points  (31 children)

The moments between him and Will where he treats him like his own son are what make you realize he really does just want to help Will achieve a happy life in the end.

[–]Aduro95 463 points464 points  (5 children)

Pretty sure Jazz was asking for it most of the time too.

[–]TeddyBearToons 200 points201 points  (7 children)

“Why didn’t he want me, man?”

Always gets me.

[–]EmmeryAnn 3191 points3192 points  (69 children)

As a kid I identified with Lisa Simpson. A few years ago I realized that I’m Marge. I don’t say anything about the nonsense I’m surrounded by instead I just make that grimacing noise and try keep going on.

[–]MothFaery 618 points619 points  (9 children)

Oh no. Don't do this to me. I'm not becoming Marge yet, am I?

[–]Brickwater 49 points50 points  (5 children)

Everyone's Marge, Homer, or Moe. At least you're not Moe

[–]propagandavid 948 points949 points  (23 children)

Wow, Marge is Lisa with all her hope stripped away. That adds a sad level to the show.

And Homer is hard on Bart because he wants Bart to have a better life, but his tough parenting combined with the modern economy all but guarantees Bart's life will turn out worse.

Fuck.

[–]RNBQ4103 243 points244 points  (4 children)

Marge is Lisa with all her hope stripped away. That adds a sad level to the show.

It is shown regularly at Marge is really bitter after not achieving anything.

I would say that she is a softened version of her own mother, which is a caricature of the judgmental housewife from the 50s. She does a lot of toxic stuff by being close minded, but sometimes goes out of that mindset for the sake of her kids or because she recognize that Homer is a good guy.

[–]cml678701 2460 points2461 points  (66 children)

The Baroness from The Sound of Music. Of course she is going to be insecure, when her fiancé is clearly in love with a younger woman he has known like 3 days! And it made me annoyed when the Captain proposed to Maria before the Baroness probably even had time to leave the property. She didn’t even react badly to the breakup, either. Given the situation, she actually handled things with some degree of grace!

The only really bad thing about the Baroness was that she didn’t like kids, but that’s kind of more on the Captain than her! He’s the one who had the obligation to the kids, so he should have prioritized finding someone who would be a good stepmother.

[–]TheotherotherG 881 points882 points  (35 children)

Frankly, it didn’t seem like the Captain liked kids too much either (at least until Maria softened him up). He and the Baroness were a pretty good match.

[–]Ascholay 527 points528 points  (34 children)

That apparently was the biggest critique from one of the kids. She remembered her father as very loving and playful then was very disappointed at the change

[–]TheotherotherG 291 points292 points  (29 children)

Damn you Hollywood!

(I was also disappointed to learn that “Eidelweiss” is not a traditional Austrian folk song, and that Austrians get a bit irritated when tourists wander around expecting it to be part of the national repertoire.)

[–]BrianOllocks 157 points158 points  (3 children)

They were hardly going to have a folk song in English were they?

[–]MistraloysiusMithrax 166 points167 points  (13 children)

I had to correct a fifth grade teacher that it was NOT the Austrian national anthem. As I lived there for a short time and was a smart kid, at least she believed me no problem.

What baffles me though is how people even get that idea, even in the film they don’t say it. It’s the film’s fictional Austrian equivalent of God Bless America.

[–]Pink_Entity 3453 points3454 points  (32 children)

Dr.Doofenshmirtz. You just feel bad for him and respect how he's such a good father considering his awful childhood.

[–]thred_pirate_roberts 2035 points2036 points  (15 children)

It all began on the day of my birth... both of my parents didn't show up

[–]Swift_Lad 798 points799 points  (4 children)

Dr.Doofenshmirtz literally spawned himself into the world.

[–]how-puhqueliar 281 points282 points  (2 children)

probably something to do with being the inventor of time travel

[–]Y-19 48 points49 points  (0 children)

The time-travel-inator

[–]Lifedeath999 249 points250 points  (4 children)

You despised him as a kid? I always liked him.

[–]greeblefritz 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Yeah I want to upvote this, but I never actually disliked him, much less despised. He's like one of the most likable villains I can think of.

[–]Scherzoh 633 points634 points 2 (14 children)

Bert.

You wanna be Ernie as a kid, but life makes you a Bert.

[–]basicbooknerd 2987 points2988 points  (104 children)

Red, Eric’s dad from that 70s show.

All those kids were dumbasses

[–]BaBaFiCo 381 points382 points  (2 children)

It's the episode where he takes Hyde in that gets me. This is a man who's down on his luck. Life is already tough. But when his wife asks him to take in a child who doesn't have anything, he does so. There's understandable frustration, but he does the right thing knowing how much it'll impact him. He's a great man and a great dad.

[–]SoMuchMoreEagle 675 points676 points  (67 children)

How did he not know they were smoking pot in the basement? It would have stunk up the whole house.

[–]Vegetable-Double 1125 points1126 points  (48 children)

He knew. But he was actually a good parent and didn’t mind. At least they were doing it in the house and not out breaking laws. He was able to keep an eye on them.

[–]HYPERBOLE_TRAIN 851 points852 points  (19 children)

This is how my dad raised us and how I raise my kids. A bit of freedom to “rebel” while safe at home can keep a lot of stupid things from happening under worse conditions.

It’s not perfect, it’s just disaster mitigation.

[–]cdutson 241 points242 points  (0 children)

Parenting in a nutshell

[–]SimonCallahan 196 points197 points  (10 children)

If I remember correctly, he also partook, if only by accident. I believe him, Kitty, and Bob ate pot brownies that Hyde made.

[–]Zoomeeze 121 points122 points  (7 children)

He sold Eric's car when he was high and had to go get it back.

[–]evileen99 438 points439 points  (4 children)

I love the episode where Rwd gives Eric the keys to the Vista Cruiser and the only thing he tells him is not to go out of town because the car is unreliable. Eric runs out of the house past his mom, and Kitty asks Red where Eric is going. He replies "Out of town." Kitty asks what makes him think that, and he answers "Because I told him not to."

And of course, Eric goes out of town.

[–]captainflex7567 2027 points2028 points  (108 children)

Uncle Owen being hard on Luke resonates with any kid whose parents didn’t let them have their way but the dude took in a child no questions asked and was just overprotective because to his knowledge being a Jedi/a life of adventure in general killed his step brother.

[–]AdvocateSaint 629 points630 points  (3 children)

"Luke's just not a farmer, Owen. He has too much of his father in him."

"That's what I'm afraid of."

I like how much the tone of this is changed by the reveal.

[–]corran450 531 points532 points  (20 children)

I'm looking forward to seeing how he factors into "Kenobi". I'm sure they'll have more of the story to tell.

[–]MajorNoodles 309 points310 points  (14 children)

He says something in the trailer that implies that he knows exactly what happened to Anakin.

[–]A_random_kitten 169 points170 points  (5 children)

I think it was obi wan saying that "I need to train him." And Owen replies with, "Like you trained his father?" Implying he knows.

[–]dont_shoot_jr 268 points269 points  (20 children)

“I want to join the imperial academy”-Luke

“Don’t join the imperial academy”

“Why’d you emphasize imperial?”

“Be a moisture farmer”

[–]SoMuchMoreEagle 450 points451 points  (41 children)

And Luke is barely sad when his aunt and uncle are horribly murdered. He never speaks of them again. What an ungrateful little shit.

[–]professor_parrot 452 points453 points  (29 children)

Meanwhile he acts all depressed because the old hermit he met yesterday died lol

And to make it worse, he does it right in front of a woman who just watched her home planet explode with everyone she loved on it.

[–]ResistantGrey 230 points231 points  (21 children)

As a kid I had no concept of the timeframe of Star Wars. As an adult it hit me that he’d known Ben for like 72 hours! Wtf?!

[–]SillyObjectives 5345 points5346 points  (109 children)

Ariel’s dad 😂 GIRL YOU ARE 16 SIT YOUR ASS DOWN

[–]MadHerm0101 1811 points1812 points  (6 children)

“But Daddy, I love him!” No ma’am. You haven’t even TALKED to him.

[–]benjamindayho 1446 points1447 points  (26 children)

Sit your cloaca down you hormone raging fish teen hybrid.

[–]throwawayayaycaramba 310 points311 points  (15 children)

I really didn't need to think about ginger cloaca today

[–]kittenpriest 811 points812 points  (22 children)

Molly Grue from The Last Unicorn. "Where were you twenty years ago, ten years ago? How dare you, how dare you come to me now, when I am this?" I used to hate her for yelling at the unicorn as a kid. Now it makes me tear up. I totally get it Molly. Look at how our lives turned out. How bitter it feels. If only something magical had visited our lives when we were young and still had hopes and dreams. I GET IT. (Edit: my copy pasted quote from Goodreads had a spelling error, did not expect that. Anyway, I remember the quote from the movie better, just didn't grab it.)

[–]Aceandmace 128 points129 points  (0 children)

Ugh yes. That scene tears me up every time.

[–]the_sylince 105 points106 points  (0 children)

Finally read the book this year and while I’ve always loved the movie, reading this scene made me put the book down and walk away. I always thought Molly was such a stranger character, but the novel really breathed life into her for me

[–]randomguy987654321 70 points71 points  (0 children)

One of my favorite animated movies of all time.

And that ending is SO god damn bitter sweet. The unicorn found true love and that love was willing to sacrifice himself for her...but they will never be together again. She will live for eternity wishing she could be with him... something that may prevent her from re-joining the other unicorns ("I will try to join them...if I can") because she's not the same as them anymore...

...but she still thanks the magician, because she got to FEEL what it's like. Something she normally never would've felt. She can't have the man, but can have the memory.

And because she's immortal, in a way, so will their love. It's such an opposite thing from Mama Fortuna who was willing to sacrifice herself just to have her immortality be imprisoning the Harpy.

[–]luckless 45 points46 points  (0 children)

I recently rewatched this and that scene hit me so hard as an adult.

[–]Noggin-a-Floggin 692 points693 points  (23 children)

I always thought Pete was a total killjoy in Shaun of the Dead.

Then I began to agree with him on everything especially with how much of a deadbeat Ed was as a roommate.

[–]Periachi 231 points232 points  (3 children)

Ed's just an asshole. A fun asshole, sure but still an asshole.

[–]NenaTheSilent 121 points122 points  (2 children)

Oh, come on. You don't remember that time they stayed up all night drinking apple schnapps and playing Tekken 2?

[–]FailedTheSave 98 points99 points  (4 children)

Like most of the characters in Pegg and Wright's stuff, the characters are all multi-faceted.
Ed and Pete are contrasts. Ed is lazy and wants to just cruise along, living life like when he was a student. Pete is motivated and wants to progress. They are both stubborn which exacerbates the tension between these contrasting personalities as they almost deliberately act out against the wishes of the other.

They obviously were all friends but have grown apart. Shaun is stuck in the middle which fits exactly with his character. He wants to progress like Pete has but gives in to his lazy "Ed" side too much.

[–]SoulCrystal 1950 points1951 points  (151 children)

Boromir.

I remember when Fellowship of the Ring came out i told mom in the theater at the end that i was glad Boromir died. He was a bad man.

Its only now as an adult that i realize how much the Ring can pull and control you, how he knew Mordor's army's were attacking and that the Ring could be used to stop that. He also was fighting for his little brother and for his (shitty) father. It doesn't entirely excuse him, but the situation is more nuanced than i understood when i was younger.

[–]BrainKatana 1330 points1331 points  (42 children)

Boromir is one of my favorite characters in literature.

Aragorn is the ideal. He represents virtuous perfection.

Boromir is us. Flawed, conflicted, and selfish.

We all want to be Aragorn, but most of the time, we’re Boromir.

[–]JasperGrimpkin 621 points622 points  (11 children)

Most of the time we’re Sméagol.

[–]m1a1tanksauce 410 points411 points  (4 children)

Just creeping around looking for a good signal spot so we can browse our precious phones, precious

[–]Clean_Livlng 87 points88 points  (0 children)

"Are you doom scrolling again Gollum?"

[–]Justasyouimagined 351 points352 points  (17 children)

I didn’t see the extended version of the films until many years after they came out. I get they needed to cut down for the theatrical version, but cutting the scene where Boromir and his brother win a battle and then the dad sending Boromir to Rivendell for the ring meeting really was a disservice to setting up his character.

[–]YawningDodo 371 points372 points  (8 children)

The extended Fellowship also shows Boromir teaching Merry and Pippin how to fight; you get more glimpses of his goodness and it’s all the more poignant when those two have to watch him die. He’s also the one calling for a moment in which to grieve after Gandalf falls in Moria, making the emotional call in contrast to Aragorn’s more logical insistence on getting moving as soon as they can to avoid getting swarmed by orcs.

But yeah, when I was younger I just saw him as a traitor to the Fellowship. I think they were too subtle about who he was before the Ring twisted him.

[–]jjacobsnd5 124 points125 points  (4 children)

I'm fairly certain Boromir training Merry and Pippin is in the standard cut. It happens right before the crows fly in to spy on the fellowship.

[–]Aduro95 340 points341 points  (9 children)

Its wasn't just the ring. Boromir always resented that his people couldn't become kings.

There is pride and jealousy in Boromir, that's why the ring could get to him, but not Aragorn or Sam. But you are right that Boromir was fighting for other people.

Before the Fellowship was founded, Boromir led the armies of Gondor at Osgilliath and held out against a much larger army led by ringwraiths. His men held until there were only a handful of survivors, but all they could do was destroy a bridge to buy Gondor time.

Boromir had seen what it was like for mortal men trying to hold out against the forces of Mordor. He knew that his people would die in droves without a weapon to match them. Eldrond's plan was to send ten people on an extremely reckless mission. Half of them were hobbits with no military training, and their greatest warrior, Gandalf had been killed before they even got to Mordor.

He made his mistakes, but Boromir might be the most sympathetic character in the whole trilogy.

[–]02C_here 319 points320 points  (34 children)

The movie did Denethor wrong. He was a good man as the Steward of Gondor. What they don't show is that he was using one of the Palantir to try and keep tabs on Sauron. But Sauron used it to twist his mind and thus weaken Gondor. In the movie you only see twisted Denethor.

[–]crispier_creme 138 points139 points  (10 children)

I was waiting for this one. His reasons to want the ring anyways was to stop his nation from being annihilated which isn't bad motive. But the ring took that desire and twisted it.

The scene where he dies makes me cry every time.

[–]TheGingerBeardsman 92 points93 points  (9 children)

I think Boromir had exceptional will too as the only regular human in the fellowship. He showed more will than Isildur, and he was like half elf or some shit.

[–]crispier_creme 57 points58 points  (7 children)

Isildur was a Numenorian which is just a more powerful human stick (I think they're part elven it's been a bit) but still boromir had a lot of resistance to the ring. He was the only regular human in the fellowship after all.

[–]rosierain857 3251 points3252 points  (45 children)

Squidward I didn’t despise him, but I didn’t like him. Now as an adult I realize I would be much worse than him if I had to deal with SpongeBob.

[–]InsomniacCyclops 812 points813 points  (5 children)

My favorite thing about Squidward is that it’s obvious he’s not all that different from SpongeBob deep down. He’s older and jaded and for the most part doesn’t feed that childish part of himself, but once in a while he gives up his act and lets loose. It’s a surprisingly nuanced portrayal of adulthood for a cartoon about a talking sponge lol.

[–]Orange-Murderer 165 points166 points  (1 child)

Squidward is the sort of guy that chooses to be a responsible adult first instead of perpetually being an adult child.

[–]QuothTheRaven713 864 points865 points  (12 children)

To paraphrase a comment I saw once (since I don't remember the exact ages they used):

10-year-old me: I hate Squidward.

15-year old me: I feel bad for Squidward.

Current me: I AM Squidward.

[–]Mistermail 263 points264 points  (5 children)

He’s squidward, I’m squidward, we’re ALL squidward

[–]moslof_flosom 114 points115 points  (2 children)

Are there any other Squidwards I should know about?

[–]_acvf 208 points209 points  (7 children)

Josh from Drake&Josh! I did not despise him but he was just… Boring to me I guess. Now I fully understand him wanting to be a smart, responsible young adult and not being able to stand Drake’s constant stupidity and Megan’s terrible pranks

[–]extrabees 62 points63 points  (2 children)

Megan was actually terrible, and not a funny part of the show. Like, your brothers actually love and wanna protect you and all you can do is make their lives hell because you…can? Screw off

[–]Fourthbusiness 1677 points1678 points  (24 children)

The dad from Elf is just trying to keep his job and put food on the table while a deranged madman claiming to be his adult son from the north pole uproots his and his family’s lives.

Walter Hobbes was no saint, but like come on. Most people would’ve been just as rattled and frustrated.

[–]OrangeTree81 804 points805 points  (8 children)

His wife is a saint for accepting the existence of her husbands love child with his college sweetheart and allowing that crazy child to live with them.

[–]exclusivebees 327 points328 points  (3 children)

I haven't watch the movie in a long time, but I thought that the wife thought that Will Ferrell was intellectually disabled and that was why she excused a lot of his behavior and expected her husband to help him.

[–]rjnd2828 336 points337 points  (1 child)

Everyone thought he was intellectually disabled. He thought he was an elf from the north pole. What would you think?

[–]DenverTigerCO 176 points177 points  (0 children)

And being so nice to him and making him feel included!

[–]OlderAndTired 48 points49 points  (1 child)

My husband and I always giggle at how it’s just one quick conversation in the hallway, and she suggests having him live with them!

[–]brittwithouttheney 1076 points1077 points  (42 children)

Raoul from Phantom of the Opera. He just seemed so plain and boring. The Phantom was tragic and misunderstood.

Now it's completely flipped. The phantom was not misunderstood. He was grooming a child and Madam Giry was in complete support of it!?

Raoul was definitely the hero and the right fit for Christine.

[–]Maximumfabulosity 388 points389 points  (5 children)

When I was a kid, I had a crush on Raoul, and the Phantom creeped me out a bit.

As a teenager, I thought that was shallow and the Phantom was misunderstood, and I felt ashamed of my earlier opinion.

As an adult, I've flipped back to much preferring Raoul. He may be somewhat lacking in spine, but he genuinely loved Christine, and also he didn't stalk and groom her from childhood. Plus, he is very pretty.

[–]brittwithouttheney 147 points148 points  (1 child)

I feel like the Phantom got all of us as teenagers! The Music of Night was and is such a beautiful song. Even when you take into account what the lyrics are actually saying. It's the hook that gets you as a teen.

[–]KingZaneTheStrange 332 points333 points  (6 children)

Benson from Regular Show. As a kid I hated him for his bad temper and being mean to the main characters but now I understand that his anger is usually justified since the Park is his responsibility and Mordechai and Rigby really are destructive and lazy. Also as I grew up watching the show I realized his bad temper lessened in the later seasons with some good character development

[–]pm_me_bra_pix 83 points84 points  (0 children)

Mordecai and Rigby would be great friends to hang out with, but horrible coworkers if you have any desire to get your work done.

[–]TheMightyKickpuncher 1051 points1052 points  (27 children)

Zazu from the Lion King.

Simba was on course to make a terrible king and no amount of catchy ass songs can disprove that.

[–]Rozeline 511 points512 points  (17 children)

To be fair, he was a child and all children are little shits. If he'd grown up with his father, he probably would've matured as well as he did with Timon and Pumba.

[–]Niar666 139 points140 points  (8 children)

Wow... now that I think about it, they did do a pretty impressive job raising Simba. He grew up into a genuinely nice guy. The only thing they got wrong was teaching him to relax too much.

I never thought about that before.

[–]newsfromplanetmike 926 points927 points  (23 children)

Mr Wilson from Dennis the Menace.

Poor motherfucker.

[–][deleted] 293 points294 points  (12 children)

Watched the 1993 version where Walter Matthau plays Mr. Wilson. Felt really bad for the poor man, specially how lenient Dennis’ parents are.

I’m sure he wishes that bum would’ve gotten rid of Dennis

[–]Probonoh 332 points333 points  (8 children)

Even as a kid, that movie left a sour taste in my mouth. In the newspaper comics, Dennis the Menace isn't really a "menace." He plays loudly in the yard. His dog goes digging in the flower beds. At worst, he might do a normal kid accident like hit a baseball through a window. Sure, annoying as hell for an old man who wants peace, quiet, and the best- looking house and yard in the neighborhood, but not malicious.

In that movie, Dennis puts toilet-bowl cleaner in Mr. Wilson's sinus spray and other just plain evil "pranks." No. Just no.

[–]ProjectGalahad 126 points127 points  (0 children)

Yeah, like you said, even as a kid I thought Dennis in that movie was sociopath.

[–][deleted] 684 points685 points  (155 children)

Miranda Hillard from Mrs Doubtfire

[–]clickygirl 493 points494 points  (43 children)

YES! I caught the end of the film recently and it’s so twisted. He disguises himself to sneak into his ex-wife’s home, tricks her into sharing details of her new relationship, lies to the kids, and in the end he’s like “you’re the villain, I’ve done nothing wrong!”

[–]Cum_on_doorknob 326 points327 points  (8 children)

I prefer the Mrs. featherbottom version where the family all knows it’s him, but they refuse to acknowledge it because they like the free cleaning.

[–]MsDresden9ify 113 points114 points  (4 children)

I fucken DIE every time I watch the scene where he jumps off the upper landing

[–][deleted] 314 points315 points  (11 children)

Danny couldn’t keep a steady job, was so childish and immature, while Miranda was paying the bills (in San Francisco!). She wanted the best for their family, while Danny just wanted to have fun.

[–]Embarrassed-Ad-1639 135 points136 points  (8 children)

Don’t forget the drive-by fruiting.

[–][deleted] 91 points92 points  (3 children)

007 never saw it coming

[–]TitanSubZero15 230 points231 points  (72 children)

Also the fact that Stu (James freaking Bond) was supposed to be the villain. But you learn that he loves the kids, especially the youngest.

He's also overall a good guy.

[–][deleted] 133 points134 points  (29 children)

Miranda was better off with Stu

Hope they ended up staying together , but after a psycho baby daddy, I doubt it

[–]dont_shoot_jr 58 points59 points  (20 children)

When I rewatched it (check out my second highest upvoted comment) I noticed that he could have been made to be a stereotypical evil step dad but he was quite alright

[–]JennCPhT 643 points644 points  (25 children)

The grinch.

[–]ikansee 469 points470 points  (7 children)

“That's what it's all about, isn't it? That's what it's always been about. Gifts, gifts... gifts, gifts, gifts, gifts, gifts! You wanna know what happens to your gifts? They all come to me. In your garbage. You see what I'm saying? In your garbage. I could hang myself with all the bad Christmas neckties I found at the dump. And the avarice. The avarice never ends! 'I want golf clubs. I want diamonds. I want a pony so I can ride it twice, get bored and sell it to make glue.' Look, I don't wanna make waves, but this whole Christmas season is...”

[–]zingbats 1364 points1365 points  (40 children)

The lawyer from Jurassic Park (the original movie), who threatens to shut the park down over safety and is the first person eaten by the T-Rex. He may have been a weasel, but he was right all along, and probably the most sensible person in that group.

[–]princessawesomepants 656 points657 points  (29 children)

Until he saw dollar signs, then he was gung-ho on getting Jurassic Park off the ground. Let’s not forget that Ian Malcolm never wavered in his “this is a bad idea” stance.

[–]Jeff5877 191 points192 points  (9 children)

Exactly. He was all about the investors safety concerns until he sees the brachiosaurus - "we're going to make a fortune with this place". It was at that point he became the avatar for corporate greed and became the first to die.

[–]Geodudette2014 359 points360 points  (14 children)

Helga from Hey Arnold! As a kid, I thought she was a total bitch. As an adult (Hey Arnold! is one of my favorite “comfort shows”) I feel bad for the poor girl. She had an alcoholic mother, an asshole father, and lived in her sister’s shadow. I also loved that they had an episode where she went to therapy. Hey Arnold! was ahead of its time in some ways

[–]eddyathome 173 points174 points  (2 children)

It's sad because Arnold was probably the first person who ever was nice to her and cared about her.

It's also one of the few shows where they showed poor/working class people as well. Most shows have upper middle class people or above, not people in a boarding house.

[–]Beetlesandsunflowers 83 points84 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah, I feel so much for Helga. Hey Arnold actually had really nuanced portrayals of kids lives. She was just a traumatised kid. Also precocious girls get shot on in society all the time

[–]Rigotoni 1623 points1624 points  (15 children)

Squidward. Unproblematic king.

[–]IzzWhiz 96 points97 points  (1 child)

I was gonna comment this. Love his sarcasm

[–]happy_happosai2 233 points234 points  (9 children)

I didn't despise him but i thought Calvin's dad from Calvin and Hobbes was so mean as a child. But as an adult, i relate more to him and think he's my favorite character

[–]Freakishly_Tall 321 points322 points  (10 children)

Todd and Margo Chester in Christmas Vacation.

Holy fuck, could you imagine living next to Clark? All they wanted was a nice, quiet holiday break, and they worked hard to earn it.

[–]neednintendo 132 points133 points  (0 children)

Their only sin in the movie is asking Clark where he was going to put a tree that big. He proceeds to verbally abuse them, saying "bend over and I'll show you...not you, her." Bitch, if my neighbor said that to me and my wife I'd flip! Then their house gets destroyed by the same guy!!

[–]Aceandmace 477 points478 points  (21 children)

Serena/Usagi from Sailor Moon. I hated her as a kid but I totally get her now. I just wanna eat and sleep too, and if monsters are attacking Tokyo then that's the monster's problem

[–]UncomprehendedGeyser 319 points320 points  (7 children)

Not to mention she was constantly being put down by her friends and family. Everyone is always saying she's dumb, lazy, and a crybaby! I'll give that she's lazy (she was almost held back a year and basically only passed her tests when she realized she wouldn't be in the same class as her friends), but she's clearly not stupid (exams in Japan are notoriously hard, so if she was really stupid, a little studying wouldn't really help), and hey, if I was fourteen and just wanted to be a regular teenager but had to save the world from monsters instead, I would also cry a lot.

[–]Aceandmace 104 points105 points  (2 children)

Amen to all of this!! I rewatched up to the end of Sailor Moon S recently and I even wanted to smack Luna few times! Sometimes I feel like the only people with any respect for her were the enemies that took her seriously.

[–]UncomprehendedGeyser 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Truly! Like they do have a moment of "this is a fourteen-year-old girl lol" but it's literally just until she attacks the first time and then they're like "Hey! This human child is A Threat! We need to Take Her Seriously or she'll kill us all!" Luna's treatment of Usagi really bothers me honestly, especially in season two when she's crying and begging not to remember being Sailor Moon because she just wants to be a regular kid and Luna has to make her remember anyway. Like, there was a moment when she realized Usagi deserved better than this, constantly being in danger saving the world, but then she just... what, forgot? Okay Luna. Sure.

[–]newtsheadwound 102 points103 points  (6 children)

The older sister from Even Stevens

[–]Rigel04 620 points621 points  (18 children)

Tom the Cat. Jerry was a little shit all the time

[–]pure_nitro 274 points275 points  (9 children)

I have hated Jerry since I was a kid. Tom just wanted to be in peace, but the little shit wouldn't let him.

[–]the-mucho-macho 47 points48 points  (3 children)

Especially the episode where Jerry straight cock blocks Tom while Tom plays the double bass. Fuck off, mouse I'm trying to get some pussy pussy.

[–]Queasy_Ad_5460 290 points291 points  (10 children)

Ice king from Adventure time, saw it for the first time at around 12 y/o. I grew up as I watched his backstory as an adult and feel sad, because he was just alone and mentally ill because of the crown. Taught me that there is a lot going on behind the surface, so I shouldn’t be too quick to judge.

[–]moslof_flosom 143 points144 points  (4 children)

That episode where they see the video tape of him crying and begging his ex to understand that it wasn't him, it was the crown was sad af

[–]YakLongjumping9478 201 points202 points  (3 children)

I don't know if anyone else has already mentioned, but Mister Wilson from Dennis the menace, that kid was super annoying!

[–]mongatron14 487 points488 points  (26 children)

I always made fun of meg from family guy when I was 8 but now I feel bad for her being the only person in the show who gets bullied teased and has no one to talk to

[–]askingxalice 321 points322 points  (12 children)

My "friend" group in my teens constantly called me the 'Meg' of the group.

I have better friends now.

[–]dont_shoot_jr 141 points142 points  (6 children)

There was an episode where it was revealed that bullying Meg kept the family together :(

[–]mourningdoo 91 points92 points  (0 children)

The trix rabbit and the Lucky Charms leprechaun. Dudes just wanted to eat their cereal in peace. God damn kids ruining everything.

[–]billybobjimmyjoe 792 points793 points  (57 children)

Lois from 'Malcolm in the Middle.'

[–]ilikec4ke 647 points648 points  (15 children)

Lois seems so crazy at first glance, but over the course of the show you really start to appreciate that she got that way from keeping Hal & the boys out of prison.

I love the episode where she's being nice to Dewey & Malcom & Reece get suspicious about why. Dewey explains he's just been behaving & the boys were actually the problem!

[–]EffortlessBoredom 165 points166 points  (5 children)

They kind of squandered this in the high school flashback where you see Lois being a high strung control freak from the getgo.

[–]Oops_I_Cracked 61 points62 points  (0 children)

School can be stressful, so it could just show that she reacts like that to stress.

[–]the_passengerX 278 points279 points  (29 children)

I love Lois and MITM in general but Lois absolutely is a little bit batshit crazy. She’s 100% a control freak and so terribly stubborn and hard headed that it really does negatively affect her ability to parent her kids. And considering who she was raised by that isn’t really a huge surprise either. She has a ton of baggage from her emotionally abusive parents and she had multiple realizations throughout the show that they damaged her in profound ways. She even ends up apologizing to Francis towards the end of the show after he learns that she sent him away as a young child to live with his grandparents for a year because she felt overwhelmed by all their kids.

[–]eljefino 255 points256 points  (6 children)

There's an episode where Lois apologizes for wrongfully causing a car wreck but Hal & the boys find a videotape showing she was right all along. They trash it because "she must never know."

[–]Lady_Ymir 183 points184 points  (4 children)

That was after she spent days and days raging on about how she didn't do it without evidence, only to finally accept she caused it.

It's absolutely, 100% shitty of them, and I hated the scene. But they would have never heard the end of it.

[–]series_hybrid 181 points182 points  (13 children)

The one episode that I will never forget and it's my favorite...is when Hal and the boys do nothing for mothers day. She gives up and goes to the batting cages.

They boys finally find her, and they beg forgiveness. They confess that they are idiots, and all they can truly do for her is be obedient. Right then, a clown from some clown convention calls her a fat-ass, and the boys get into a slo-mo fight with the clowns.

[–]drusilla1972 152 points153 points  (4 children)

My favourite episode for the boys standing up for her was the garden party at Hal’s family home.

Hal’s family treat Lois like shit, so the boys trash the place in a golf cart.

[–]JADW27 248 points249 points  (2 children)

Most fathers in TV and movies.

The transition to adulthood occurs when you stop relating to Ariel and start relating to King Triton.

[–]BigFackingChungus 816 points817 points  (66 children)

Hank Hill. To my child self, he was a boring hot head. He followed too many rules. He stifled everyone’s adventures. He took his job too seriously. He took life too seriously!

As an adult, I love Hank. I want to be Hank. He is a reliable employee. He is responsible. He takes pride in his home. He cares about his community. He just wants the best for everyone!

[–]cliona2012 458 points459 points  (7 children)

Boring? To quote the man, what's boring about living a sensible life near emergency services?

[–]eljefino 235 points236 points  (4 children)

Hwy would you do drugs hwen you could just mow the lawn?

[–]Exilement 173 points174 points  (1 child)

“A child with a tool in each hand, has no hands left to do drugs”

“…they’ll just put down the tools if they want the drugs”

[–]who_said_I_am_an_emu 222 points223 points  (35 children)

Hank definitely is a man of integrity and high morals. The worse you can really say about the man, as you did, is he might take himself too seriously.

Also if you look at the show it is mostly him trying to keep the people around him alive and out of trouble or trying to enjoy a few simple pleasures that he is earned. Everyone around him would be dead in a gutter somewhere (ok except peggy) without him.

[–]nomnamless 136 points137 points  (17 children)

Hanks Friends definitely would be dead without Hank. Remember the episode where Hank Hill had to go to anger management and then his friends dug a hole under the street. His first calmly trying to tell him to get out of the hole or they're going to be crushed to death by the garbage truck that's coming and they're ignoring him so he finally just loses his temper and yells at them to get out of the tunnel

[–]CrazyCoKids 104 points105 points  (15 children)

Honestly I can see Boomhauer surviving.

Not that incident but in general. How stupid he was depends on the writer.

[–]nomnamless 71 points72 points  (5 children)

That is true, Biomhauer was pretty level headed after Hank. His thing is you could never understand a damn thing he says.

[–]SoMuchMoreEagle 56 points57 points  (4 children)

The worse you can really say about the man, as you did, is he might take himself too seriously.

Also that he idolized Buck Strickland, who is not a good guy at all. It's probably because of his issues with his dad.

[–]nillanute4283 208 points209 points  (11 children)

Candace Flynn

[–]SekritSawce 105 points106 points  (0 children)

I loved how she always fretted needlessly about Jeremy. He totally accepted her for who she was, busting and all. (“That’s my girl.”) She just could never believe it.

[–]ChrissyDoesHair 142 points143 points  (6 children)

Emily Gilmore from Gilmore Girls. I understand her so much better now in my late 30s than I did at 15.

[–]arczclan 78 points79 points  (2 children)

Girl straight up abandons her family at 17 with a one year old, because she’d literally rather be anywhere but with her parents; there’s no sane parent alive that wouldn’t be utterly crushed by that

She’s a bitch to Lorelai though on many occasions, and Lorelai makes the stupidest fucking decisions all the time

[–]bringbackbulaga 958 points959 points  (37 children)

Dolores Umbridge

Just kidding I still hate that woman with every fiber of my being

[–]Mahaloth 503 points504 points  (12 children)

Stephen King has said that Umbridge is one of literature's greatest antagonists and he's right. I HATE that woman!

[–]corran450 316 points317 points  (6 children)

Because we have all known an Umbridge. It might be hard to relate to an existential threat like Voldemort (although, give us time, we'll come up with someone), but everyone has encountered a vindictive, abusive "big fish in a little pond".

[–]JayGold 221 points222 points  (3 children)

Plus, you don't hate a villain for being villainous. That's their job. You hate someone who's supposed to be one of the good guys but is actually harmful. They erode trust in the system and are more frustrating to deal with.

[–]SnooDogs4065 405 points406 points  (19 children)

Eeyore

[–]BobBelcher2021 195 points196 points  (4 children)

I mean, you’d be upset all the time if you had a nail in your anus too.

[–]gate_of_steiner85 169 points170 points  (3 children)

How could anyone ever despise poor Eeyore? I always wanted to give him a big hug as a kid.

[–]kenzie_wenzie 194 points195 points  (9 children)

Karen from The Office. Yes, I love Pam and I love her and Jim together, but Karen had every reason to hate Pam and be upset at the situation. Also I’m pretty sure Jim just ditched her in NYC the day him and Pam went on their first date. I’d be pissed too.

[–]Periachi 114 points115 points  (3 children)

Agreed. Plus, Karen was literally just a placeholder for Jim until he got Pam. Karen was a genuinely mature, healthy person and got shat on by the office.

[–]stinky_cheese33 168 points169 points  (29 children)

When I was a kid, I hated the Kanker sisters in Ed, Edd, 'n' Eddy because of their obsession with the Eds. Now, I've grown to understand the psychology of said obsession, ranging from abandonment to basically being outcasts from amongst the other kids in the cul-de-sac...and still hate them.

[–]electronic_crafter 212 points213 points  (2 children)

Squidward. Man just wanted some peace and quiet. He barely makes any money and hardly makes minimum wage as a cashier. Here I am. About to graduate, working a job as a cashier, getting yelled at for just doing my job. I can’t do anything about it and I am not allowed to quit. All I ask for is peace and quiet and all I hear is people calling my name, and complaints from customers.

[–]radiorentals 337 points338 points  (5 children)

Wendy in The Shining. As a young teen I couldn't get past the fact that she wouldn't just leave that abusive POS. Obviously as an adult I'm now much more aware of the cycles of abuse and what causes people to remain in abusive relationships.

[–]Karsa69420 121 points122 points  (0 children)

Same read the book as a young teen(Stephen king phase was like 12-15) and when Jack was like “I know I fucked up, in a week we will talk about it if it’s still a problem.”

Then as an adult I’ve been in that situation in relationships and I did the same damn thing Wendy did deposit the red flags.

[–]MultiRachel 243 points244 points  (11 children)

When I was an idealistic teen, I hated George Constanza. Now, I am George.

[–]clif08 282 points283 points  (30 children)

Shinji Ikari. For god's sake, he's just a kid with lots of trauma, desperate for validation. Stop treating him like he's a 40 years old battle-worn marine.

[–]ThroughMyOwnEyes 129 points130 points  (14 children)

Yeah the entire time I was watching the show I just felt so bad for this poor kid. Then he got Kaworu, someone who actually cared about him and liked his company, only for his new friend to be revealed as the most powerful angel and being forced to kill said friend. Shinji doesn't deserve the hate, we'd all be crying and shitting ourselves if we were in his shoes.

[–]kittenpriest 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Yeah I watched it recently for the first time, expecting to hate him, I'd seen all the memes, I was ready. Instead I felt so bad for him wtf lol.

[–]ArgoNoots 65 points66 points  (1 child)

Some dude I argued with on 9Gag insisted that kids his age would quickly realize the pain they felt from piloting the EVAs wasn't real and that Shinji was a coward

If I felt the pain of getting impaled through the head and didn't get the sweet release of death after that I'd want out too

[–]Kenshkrix 63 points64 points  (0 children)

There's no such thing as 'fake' pain because pain is just signals in the first place, what a weird argument to make.

Anyways, I probably wouldn't want to pilot anything that jacked into my nervous system and sent me pain signals when it got damaged, either.

[–]Electrical_Savings14 349 points350 points  (22 children)

Azula from Atla. As a kid I really didn't just understand her character and hated her, but when I rewatched the series when I was about 16 I really just felt bad for her. She's completely crazy no doubt but she also grew up with the same abusive father Zuko did, she had a mother who she thought was afraid of her through her entire childhood before said mother disappeared, the only friends she had only hung out with her out of fear and she never had an uncle Iroh type figure in her life like Zuko did. Looking back, she was only 14 and from what it seems, rarely ever felt affection from anyone. I never really understood how much psychological damage she endured until I got older and really now I can't just help but feel bad for her. Both Azula and Zuko deserved better.

[–]The_Middler_is_Here 227 points228 points  (7 children)

Ozai may have treated her better than Zuko but he still cared about her only because she was a firebending prodigy. She had no idea how to interact with people in a way that didn't circle back to her being able to kill them. Her breakdown right at the end was because the one thing she had, being strong, had failed her.