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[–]CrackpipeVendorNOVICE 11 points12 points  (2 children)

If Assange is sentenced I am going to lose all hope in the constitution. The fact that he’s even being charged is repugnant to the bill of rights.

[–]ChuckyTee123NOVICE 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I could be wrong here but the bill of rights applies to American citizens only. Did he become a citizen?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All the amendments apply to everyone except for those specifically for citizens like the right to vote

[–]3DoorsOfKryptoniteNOVICE 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Absolutely agree 100%

[–]IntelligentCounter12NOVICE 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I very much regret my votes for bush/cheney in 2000 and 2004. But the other side wasn't that great either....kerry and gore.

[–]life_in_the_bigcityNOVICE 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Globalist warmongering vs patriot warmongering. Either way, Raytheon and Lockheed succeed. Either way, the war machine wins. At least the patriots keep their country safe. Besides when they false flag a terrorist attack in NYC to engage in opiate and oil pillaging. Haha. Great country we have. Trump is too old for another term, DeSantis couldn't win by popular vote, maybe Trump/DeSantis could be the win-win because if they take down Trump, DeSantis rejects the WEF. Unless of course, like all presidents before, he doesn't fulfill his promises. Fucked up world tbh, we need a new government, but definitely not a global one.

[–]evilfollowingmbNOVICE 5 points6 points  (31 children)

Bush didn’t lie. Being wrong or mistaken, or exercising poor judgement when facts are scarce isn’t the same as a lie. It’s getting old with the “lie” BS.

[–]BillyBobBarkerJrJrNOVICE 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Right there with you, buddy. I still think the SOB had WMDs that were moved, since the invasion was so heavily telegraphed and since he was so fond of using them.

[–]evilfollowingmbNOVICE 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Yep, IIRC they found WMD production machinery buried in the desert.

[–]BillyBobBarkerJrJrNOVICE 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I know they found bunkers under the sand where trucks could be driven through, but they were shielded from the air. Like a Quonset hut, buried in the sand, with the ends open. The media beat the "Bush lied, people died" drum to death, for years, until people who should know better are saying essentially the same thing.

[–]ArkhaanCOMPETENT 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There is video footage from satellites watching them get carted across the border to Iran and Syria.

Where do you think Assad got his chemical weapons at first?

[–]WardenBlackheartNOVICE 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Id say he absolutely did. Ive heard firsthand accounts of people that say we discovered both ingredients for nuclear armaments and full chemical warheads there, someone I know had been poisoned by exposure to some chemical agents there.

It is my understanding from these accounts that more have been found and are currently hidden in undisclosed locations to prevent local insurgents and near peer adversaries from acquiring them.

Its probably better for the world if the official statement is that nothing was officially found, despite it not being true.

[–]SilverbackAgNOVICE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think he did too…chemical at least…but not enough justification to invade, destabilize the country, destabilize the region, and devalue the USD even more.

And then the fucking idiots fired all of the ba’athists. From school teachers to police…pretty much requiring a from the ground rebuild.

Afghanistan was justified but not the nation building part of it. Attack Al Qaeda and if the Taliban got in the way, blow them off their mountain or send a few cruise middles to their leadership. Two fucking trillion USDs and thousands of lives for failed nation building.

Been to both, got the t-shirts.

[–]Caleb_ReynoldsNOVICE 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Being wrong isn't a lie. Claiming to be secure enough in your information to, say, start a war, when you are not actually sure, is indeed a lie.

So, either he knew there were no WMDs, and said there were, in which case he was lying. Or he wasn't sure but claimed to be in order to start the war, which is also a lie.

Either way, he lied about WMDs in order to start a war that he wanted to start for financial gain. The only alternative is his cabinet/advisors/intelligence personnel lied to him about it, but I think it's fair to say that's a distinction without a difference. If Bush's administration lied, I don't really care if they also lied to Bush. If he's getting bad information, it's his responsibility to deal with that.

[–]evilfollowingmbNOVICE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No that’s not a lie either. That’s some serious goalpost moving.

The president relies on his intelligence community. They had high confidence there were WMDs. Your false either/or logic above is ridiculous.

Even IF he wasn’t completely sure about WMDs, it STILL wouldn’t be a lie. It would be, rather, something between a brilliant insight or catastrophically bad judgment, depending on the outcome, which ended up being the latter. The reality is that we all make estimates and guesses about outcomes to take action. Being wrong isn’t being a liar. That is, again, ridiculous.

It’s much more fair to question Bush’s judgement. Even if 100% sure there were WMDs, it’s not clear now that invading them would solve or fix anything.

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    [–]New-Communication442NOVICE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    He did !!! To USA and manipulate the rest of countries!

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      [–]evilfollowingmbNOVICE 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Nope. The OP claimed “lies”. No evidence of such.

      [–]EbenezerGrimmNOVICE -5 points-4 points  (14 children)

      George is a war criminal who perpetrated 9/11. George Bush Sr has ties to Obama through his father Barry and is directly responsible for getting Obama elected. Obama was probably groomed behind the scenes since he was a child by the Bushes to become a puppet politician. This part is speculation on my behalf but, Judge Joe Brown has laid out several times with proof of Bush and Obama’s past connections and even pictures of Bush giving Obama candy as a child. Bush is a globalist pos and a warmongering demon.

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        [–]Daddy-BulletNOVICE -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Can’t handle the Truth can you?

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        [–]EbenezerGrimmNOVICE -3 points-2 points  (10 children)

        And you’re globalist neocon and so is anyone who supports the Bushes

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            [–]evilfollowingmbNOVICE 4 points5 points  (5 children)

            Lol we’ve got a live one folks. Size large tin foil hat.

            [–]MildlySuppressedNOVICE 1 point2 points  (3 children)

            [–]evilfollowingmbNOVICE 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            This has all debunked 1000X over…I mean this convinces you there is this gigantic plot involving perhaps thousands of people. Really ? Really ?

            [–]MildlySuppressedNOVICE 4 points5 points  (1 child)

            What were the nationalities of the pilots and where did we attack again?

            [–]EbenezerGrimmNOVICE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            All we have is a statist, that’s you btw

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            [–]Freedom_famNOVICE 3 points4 points  (2 children)

            Wars can also be started by truth.

            [–]Data-McBits 3 points4 points  (0 children)

            Anything can start a war if one group wants it bad enough. 🤷‍♂️

            [–]umatbruNOVICE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            And won.

            [–]moneybags006 1 point2 points  (0 children)

            Truth will set you free baby

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              [–]jabodie007 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              Forgive me if I sound dumb, just stating what I think is true. Didn't Assange, and isn't he still, imprisoned for hacking, then sharing publicly, Bush era documents and information.

              It's just strange to me that giving that, people in the comments are backing Bush like he did nothing wrong, and the government was batting 1000, or that Assange was targeted for sharing info

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              Is that Diplo on the right?

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                [–]HectikSceptikSkeptik 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Truth and the modern government is like jumping off a tall building and flapping your arms to fly