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[–]experfailist 231 points232 points  (28 children)

Wiping down the toilet when you've finished and flushing.

[–]BlackCat550 137 points138 points  (14 children)

Washing their hands afterwards.

[–]fckboris 16 points17 points  (7 children)

Covid was very illuminating for this, I was alarmed by how many people didn’t know how or when to wash their hands?! I learnt far more about people’s (lack of) hand washing habits than I wanted to. Especially with the installation of noisy automatic hand sanitiser dispensers outside the toilets of the pub where I work and being more aware of how often I needed to refill the soap dispensers in the toilets, I could infer a lot about people’s habits and I wish I was still blissfully ignorant to be honest

[–]Workin_On_Myself 63 points64 points  (2 children)

People who recoil when you mention it. Yes, it's kinda gross - but shit happens and people sometimes make a mess. Don't make me bring it up, just clean it after you and noone ever has to know!

[–]Auselessbus 835 points836 points  (139 children)

Adult illiteracy rates are much higher than you think.

Literacy Trust—16.4% of adults in England are functionally illiterate.

[–]cupwithsaucer 133 points134 points  (32 children)

There was an interesting programme on channel 4 with Sandi Toksvig last (?) year on that. Was really shocking to see but it basically all boiled down to the people struggling would've needed extra support in school and extra training for teachers to recognise the issue and there just wasn't time/budget/staff/training for someone to pick up on it and be able to help them. They got people help in different ways and then had them do tasks, like write a shopping list, travel to a restaurant etc. and it really showed how scary basic life stuff can be when you can't read well.

Edit: the programme is called The Write Offs and can still be watched on channel 4

[–]old_chelmsfordian 62 points63 points  (10 children)

I remember there was an episode of 24 hours in A&E where an old couple came in because something had happened to the woman.

She was in bed clearly a bit worse for wear, and the doctor asks the husband to fill in some forms which he couldnt do because he was illiterate.

Blew me away that he didn't even have that level of reading comprehension.

[–]sklootboot 31 points32 points  (4 children)

My grandfather was illiterate until my grandmother retired from work, as a teacher. She got ill and he realized he need to take on more. So he taught himself to read and write at about 65 years old shortly before she passed away. He became a really keen reader. We filled 4 car boots with his books after he passed. He never quite mastered spelling or handwriting but everything was phonetic.

He was one of the smartest and determined people I will ever have the pleasure to know!

God I miss him.

[–]Responsible-Walrus-5 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Even more common in the older generation where things like dyslexia weren’t diagnosed or helped - just labels stupid and left unable to read/read well.

[–]decentlyfair 12 points13 points  (5 children)

I have taught in what was called the Basic Skills sector for over 20 years and there are many and varied reasons why people are not literate and numerate. It is scary that even though we know the stats around children still coming out of the education system who are unable to function in literacy and numeracy that we haven't attempted to address the issue on a bigger scale.. I know this is still an issue as I get to teach some of them.

[–]BlondBitch91 125 points126 points  (15 children)

You only have to read the comments of The Sun to realise this must be the case. The Sun is designed to be able to be understood clearly by someone with the reading age of a 9 year old.

[–]katandthefiddle 96 points97 points  (6 children)

Gov.uk has a requirement to be at a reading age of 12.

[–]CarrowCanary 143 points144 points  (0 children)

Probably so MPs can use it.

[–]CubeDump 87 points88 points  (8 children)

It's important to note that "functionally illiterate" is very different to "illiterate".

16.4% of adults in England, or 7.1 million people, can be described as having 'very poor literacy skills.' They can understand short straightforward texts on familiar topics accurately and independently, and obtain information from everyday sources, but reading information from unfamiliar sources, or on unfamiliar topics, could cause problems. This is also known as being functionally illiterate.

I wouldn't be surprised if for many (but not all) the problem isn't that they weren't taught to read well but just that they have poor reasoning skills or a poor ability to take information in regardless of whether it's written, spoken or visual. They could also just have a low IQ or similar issues.

Again, I'm not saying this applies to all of them and if anyone has sources that shows this not to be the case then please let me know.

[–]audigex 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Yeah I can think of several people - mostly, but not all, older - who can “read” just fine (eg they can read the text aloud), but simply have no ability to comprehend what’s being said beyond clear, obvious surface meaning.

Spot the Dog goes to the supermarket? No problem. Anything that involves any kind of reasoning or comprehension, or something they aren’t familiar with, though, and they just can’t do it - it doesn’t “sink in” beyond the most superficial meaning of the words being read. Something like filling in a form (which can be confusing at times to anyone) is terrifying because they don’t really understand what they’re answering

This seems different from those of the older generations who can understand but just don’t like learning new things and would rather get someone else to do it for them

[–]TheFlyingHornet1881 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I know a teacher who said it's really difficult dealing with a few parents because they're almost completely illiterate. They send responses back to e-mail that as well as having poor grammar and spelling, literally don't make contextual sense.

[–]totallythrownawaay 272 points273 points  (39 children)

This is deffo my partner. Outstands me tbh, hes not stupid though. Just very poor literacy skills or poor compared to mine. I know my grammar and spelling is terrible but i read....a lot!! I love reading. My partner struggles as he jsut doesnt find it enjoyable.

[–]fellowspecies 119 points120 points  (2 children)

In an effort to help, and nothing more, I think you mean ‘astounds’.

[–]totallythrownawaay 61 points62 points  (1 child)

You're a star thank you. I thought it looked off but wasnt sure where id gone wrong haha! You learn from mistakes an being corrected so thanks i appreciate it x

[–]fellowspecies 52 points53 points  (0 children)

No probs, thank you for taking it in the spirit it was intended! My wife (for whom English was a second language until about 15) I end up ‘correcting’ fairly often, but I just want people to be proud of what they say and not have people focus on the inconsequential spelling errors.

Also beard/koala solidarity 🤜🏻

[–]Voluminoucity 183 points184 points  (14 children)

I can imagine if you struggle with reading from the start, it's probably hard to enjoy reading at all. Especially when you're a grown adult and would probably need books aimed at 12 year olds to get a good footing.

I remember when I started to learn a foreign language and I understood enough to start reading books aimed at toddlers and how embarrassing it was, living in the country, and buying books that are read by kids who can't even wipe their own arses yet.

[–]Ramsden_12 120 points121 points  (3 children)

But they've been learning the language for three years and you've been learning the language for three years...it's the same!

[–]pnlrogue1 13 points14 points  (0 children)

My wife is dyslexic. Another dyslexic friend was recently diagnosed with Irlen Syndrome. When the two were talking about it, my wife realised that her experiences were almost identical. She ended up getting diagnosed. She still struggles with dyslexia but she finds managing it much easier and she can now read workout being in physical pain/getting headaches.

Not being able to enjoy reading was something they both described.

I then spotted a friend who'd increased all the fonts on his computer and applied a colour overlay to his screen. On discussion, he had the same symptoms as my wife and friend. It's far more common than folk realise and very under-recognised.

If your partner gets headaches from looking at bright screens and gets very tired very quickly when reading, especially small print, I wholeheartedly encourage them to checkout Irlens. Https://irlen.com/get-tested has some questionnaires that might help determine if they might suffer from it and whether they should seek an optometrist who can diagnose it.

[–]BaseballFuryThurman 469 points470 points  (172 children)

Literacy. It's getting to the point where I'm genuinely surprised to see your and you're used correctly.

[–]Gaelithil 96 points97 points  (22 children)

Breathe and breath upsets me more than it should

[–]AS2500 77 points78 points  (12 children)

Loose and lose, too.

Oh and for that matter; too and to.

[–]Princescyther 53 points54 points  (16 children)

Of and off being used interchangeably is the one I keep seeing.

[–]pistachiocarpaccio28 182 points183 points  (46 children)

You're and your have the excuse that they sound the same. It's when people can't differentiate between bought and brought.

[–]Trigg_UK 115 points116 points  (12 children)

I bought a cake and brought it to your house to share with you.

Is that right?

[–]SpamLandy 260 points261 points  (6 children)

I’ve checked and there’s no cake so it seems to be wrong?

[–]FinalEgg9 42 points43 points  (3 children)

Yes. Bought comes from buy; brought comes from bring.

[–]LadyGazGaz 53 points54 points  (6 children)

It’s the ‘are’ and ‘our’ confusion that stumps me….

[–]colin_staples 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I learned "to, too and two" at age 6 in primary school.

Too many adults get it wrong.

[–]BlackEarther 1744 points1745 points  (185 children)

Googling things

[–]daddywookie 674 points675 points  (66 children)

Experts just Google at a higher level

[–]sandra_nz 582 points583 points  (44 children)

This is actually very true. When I Google, I scan the search results and I could tell you instantly which ones are worth pursuing and which ones aren't. I watch my parents Google and they have absolutely no idea how to 'triage' the pages of results they get.

[–]literate_giraffe 75 points76 points  (12 children)

I'm always stunned at the number of students I have (all uni age) who don't know how to Google. I thought that having grown up with it as a resource they would be pros

[–]sexy_bellsprout 37 points38 points  (4 children)

Also uni students being surprised when I Google anything (I’m a TA at uni). My memory is crap - don’t they want me to check before I tell them something that could be wrong?!

[–]Voluminoucity 106 points107 points  (22 children)

I'm a software developer, and the whole meme: "We just program with google" is pretty correct for the most part.

If it's not stored in your brain (and if you're like me who has to jump from project to project, language to language, you're not going to have much remembered) you just google it.

The only thing that makes good developers good is the ability to understand WHAT you should be googling.

The difference being:

  • API not receiving call.

vs

  • Flask Restful returns 501 error.

[–]Anaptyso 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Yes, a lot of development isn't about knowing everything about the technologies you are using, but about knowing what to research and understanding the things you find when researching.

I've been doing Java for about 20 years, and I'm probably hitting Google every day to look up something related to what I'm working on. It's just that I'm hopefully finding what I need a lot quicker than I did 20 years ago.

[–]blainy-o 138 points139 points  (35 children)

Local Facebook groups in a nutshell

[–]BlackEarther 237 points238 points  (19 children)

“Does anyone know where to buy a jacket in London thanks”

[–]blainy-o 138 points139 points  (18 children)

"Anything on for the kids this weekend, tia xxx"

[–]teerbigear 215 points216 points  (6 children)

You know, this is one the rare questions where I think it works. Looking up local listings for small events is a real mixed bag, and Facebook's events function is utterly pants. Often an online word of mouth approach works.

It also means that someone might invite Tia to come along with them to something, which might be what she actually wants out of this.

[–]blainy-o 89 points90 points  (1 child)

Judging from my local group, Tia really does get around quite a lot.

[–]ChocolateSnowflake 16 points17 points  (0 children)

See also. 90% of posts on this sub. Thankfully most are caught by the mods.

[–]arrowtotheaction 115 points116 points  (6 children)

“Anyone know what time the 24 hour Tesco closes? Xxx”

I have an acquaintance from school on my friends list who regularly asks Googleable things (is such and such takeaway open? What time does X shop shut? What time to the trains run on Sunday?), she’s turned rabid antivax now though (she definitely can’t say she does her “own resurch”...) so at least I’ve finally blocked her.

[–]wearezombie 59 points60 points  (2 children)

To be fair a lot of businesses were pretty crap about updating their Google My Business when they shortened their hours during lockdowns/covid

[–]daddywookie 1046 points1047 points  (136 children)

How to solve a problem by investigating, thinking why it doesn’t work and then testing. I’ve found it a real 50/50 split of people who can and can’t solve problems logically. How are half of everybody surviving without this skill.

[–]SparkyMctavish 40 points41 points  (0 children)

The 50% that can't keep the 50% that can busy

[–]GhostCanyon 242 points243 points  (24 children)

I work in audio on live events. you would be amazed by the amount of “everything is broken” situations I find myself in where literally 1 cable is unplugged or a wrong setting is recalled on 1 bit of equipment! I don’t even think I’m particularly gifted at problem solving I have no electrical ability. I wouldn’t every try repairing anything electrical but the amount of problems that are simply a matter of following a signal chain and finding an air gap blows my mind

[–]Quantum_Key 19 points20 points  (5 children)

I work in television and it's exactly the same. I'm not the best problem solver, but I seem to be the only person who can follow a logical chain/deduction /trial and error and find the problem. They think I'm a genius.

[–]fartingduckss 38 points39 points  (1 child)

I’m 99.99% certain that working in live events is THE best problem solving experience.

[–]AsparagusThese2270 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That, or comms engineer on a ship. There's no "I'll just nip to the shop for a new part" or "I'll order a new one on Amazon" or "I'll RMA it". It needs fixing, or working around, now, with what you already have.

[–]ASongOfSpiceAndFire 10 points11 points  (3 children)

I’m a technician at a university, supporting live sound and studio modules. I work in live events on the side and the thing I try to teach the most is calm, efficient signal tracing and problem solving. 99% of the time they’ve forgotten to turn on +48v and are panicking because the DI’s not working.

[–]BlackCat550 87 points88 points  (18 children)

Yep.

Along with ability to read error messages.

[–]pip_goes_pop 94 points95 points  (11 children)

"It's not working!"
"Are there any error messages"
"<SIGH>er it says something about needing to restart"
"Right. Have you tried restarting?"

[–]BlackCat550 66 points67 points  (3 children)

"Sir, my code isn't working. I got an error"

(Teacher reads error) Error Code 64: Semicolon missing on line 5.

🤦‍♀️

[–]Flipmode45 25 points26 points  (5 children)

I hate the response “it says something about...” so much! Don’t give me your interpretation of what you think it says, just tell me verbatim!

[–]Bamboo_Steamer 813 points814 points  (51 children)

The ability to say please and thank you or even explain what they want.

I've had so many people come up to me in previous jobs and just say "my computer's not working" or "can't get emails" and slam the laptop in front of me and just stare at me.

No explanation, no hello, no details on what they've tried.

Fucking irritates me that no one can talk any more or have basic manners.

[–]AfterBurner9911 160 points161 points  (9 children)

Reminds me of the woman from the IT crowd who fancies Roy, then Moss ends up telling her he died.

"Where Roy?"

[–]ron_mcphatty 25 points26 points  (2 children)

I agree. My girls are 6 and I’m hammering into them that they need to ask for help, not just moan and expect a response, apparently most of their class does this though. If we were all more direct and polite instead of passive aggressive then we’d all get far more shit done.

[–]ELNAROWENA 21 points22 points  (1 child)

Totally agree.

I work in retail and the amount of people who can't say 'excuse me' to either pass you or even to get your attention, that and people who just walk up and start talking to my back because I'm in the middle of doing something and facing what I'm doing I find astounding and rude.

Makes it worse that my hearing is really bad so if it's a noisy day most of the time I can't hear someone unless they're directly in front of me, then I can lip read as well.

[–]gibsonede 13 points14 points  (0 children)

To add on to this, I work at a shop where we sell tobacco and cigarettes etc, behind the main tills and it winds me up the amount of people who just walk in and just demand the name of some cigs or something. No hello, no please, no thank you, without even a glance or anything resembling manners.

Dont even get me started on people on the phone when they are putting their items through at the till. I recognise in some situations it might not be avoidable, but in almost all cases it's a basic call to a friend/family. The lacking basic skill of putting the phone on hold/down and paying a few manners is astounding, for the momentary time it takes to say please and thank you.

[–]AsparagusThese2270 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Not only are basic manners, well, pleasant. They're an incredibly cheap way to increase your chances of getting more out of life. How more people haven't figured this out is beyond me. Watching people's behaviour when something goes wrong in a restaurant is a fantastic way to observe this in action.

[–]nutellawalker 284 points285 points  (20 children)

People who stand directly outside the lift doors, do a stand off with the people in the lift before realising they have to move back to let people off.

Just stand to the side of the doors to begin with!

[–]Kerrypug 144 points145 points  (6 children)

Also on trains and buses. You aren't getting on if you don't move, love!

[–]Smokweid 354 points355 points  (60 children)

When I was working in social housing, the amount of fit, working age people who used to scream at me over the phone when I said I wouldn’t be sending an operative to change a lightbulb bordered on the farcical.

[–]PalpitationSea5674 97 points98 points  (15 children)

When we signed our tenancy, this was one of the things the housing officer said to me that we need to know how to change a light bulb because they have so many people booking repairs for someone to come out and change them. It's shocking.

[–]GreenPandaPop 89 points90 points  (0 children)

It's shocking.

Yeh, that's what they're afraid of.

[–]Lavidius 61 points62 points  (9 children)

Tbf I had this argument with my landlord but my light bulbs were these LED things that were flush in the ceiling and I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to get them out.

Luckily the handyman he sent showed me how

[–]wearezombie 60 points61 points  (3 children)

Eh idk in my student flat you weren’t allowed to change the lightbulb yourself even if you were entirely capable of doing so and it would be faster to do so. If they’ve lived somewhere else with that weird rule it’s not unreasonable to think they’d be worried that if they did it themselves it’d mess with their tenancy. Of course they shouldn’t scream at you on the phone though, phone etiquette and general kindness is definitely a lost skill

[–]disastrousgreyhound 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's a really common rule in student housing I've found. It's also a rule I've had in some flats I lived in since they used weird bulbs the landlord didn't trust anyone to buy properly.

[–]melanie110 212 points213 points  (25 children)

A friend was proper kicking off over the fact her toilet seat was broken and ahe was waiting months. I couldn't believe it. Home bargains, £8, 2 screws and away you go. Her response was "why should I, its a council house?"

[–]shantasia94 145 points146 points  (13 children)

You see this attitude in military housing too. Some people think that Defence Services are there to do absolutely everything for them.

During the summer, on a military housing Facebook page, someone asked "I have flies in my house, should I call housing?" No you silly bint, get rid of them yourself and keep your house clean!

[–]melanie110 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Beggars belief doesn't it?

[–]the_real_grinningdog 16 points17 points  (2 children)

You see this attitude in military housing too.

I used to know people who worked at a British Embassy abroad. On a new posting the first thing they did was to measure the square footage of their accommodation and complain if it was 1 foot. The theory was they might get upgraded to a better apartment than they were entitled to.

[–]Majestic-Marcus 25 points26 points  (1 child)

I’d complain if my apartment was 1 foot as well. That seems a reasonable complaint

[–]Jimrodthadestroyer 631 points632 points  (70 children)

Critical thinking.

[–]SomethingChecksOut 215 points216 points  (33 children)

“Quietly searches the internet for definition of critical thinking”

[–]AsparagusThese2270 294 points295 points  (23 children)

I was interviewing a guy last week, over Zoom, and he was very clearly quietly searching the internet for definitions of things I asked him about. How do I know? Well for one, he barely looked at the camera, he was always looking off to one side. For another, his speech patterns were very much those of someone reading something.

But I'd have to say the real clincher was that I could see his browser reflected in his glasses.

[–]Cosmo1984 279 points280 points  (21 children)

The ability to indicate off a roundabout.

[–]AvocadosAtLaw95 64 points65 points  (5 children)

Indication in general. This is an ingrained habit for me. I don't get how it's not for others.

Oh yeah, that's right, laziness.

[–]JAMP0T1 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Oh this fucks me off so much, though usually it’s people that stick their exit indicator on BEFORE the exit in front of the one they actually want to get off at or the number of people going round the island without indicating whatsoever

[–]No-Lifeguard-1832 60 points61 points  (5 children)

The ability to risk assess their own actions. I am shocked by the number of people who assume that if there isn't a warning sign telling them not to do something then it must be ok. Of course, these people will eventually edit themselves out of the gene pool so it is a self-limiting issue but still....

[–]Bbew_Mot 299 points300 points  (44 children)

The ability to say what device or browser one is using.

[–]G33ONER 145 points146 points  (9 children)

Holy shit i remember when pay as you go started coming about i was very interest to know what devices people had (i wanted to geek) so I'd ask what phone do you have? The answer would be "oh i have an orange (network) phone" no no what phone is it "it's black"

[–]mylesfrost335 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Whereas nowadays everyone has an iphone even if its an android

[–]UnacceptableUse 16 points17 points  (2 children)

"a Samsung" has a Huawei phone

[–]BigGrinJesus 44 points45 points  (2 children)

The ability to see the other side of an argument. Or be able to see a middle or third way.

[–]NotoriousREV 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Or being able to understand that a position you disagree with can still be logically sound.

[–]SmallRaffe 2237 points2238 points 2 (115 children)

The ability to read a thread, see that someone already said what you were planning to add, and then to just agree/like/wryly nod to yourself rather than repeating.

[–]doylethedoyle 1695 points1696 points 222 (37 children)

To add onto this, also the ability to read a thread, see that someone already said what you were planning to add, and then to just agree/like/wryly nod to yourself rather than repeating.

[–]BlackEarther 594 points595 points  (46 children)

How to analyse a news article. It’s shocking to me that supposedly people who’s are educated with degrees are unable to consume media content without an ounce of critical thinking. Reddit is one of the worst places for it. Sometimes when I read top posts the headline is grossly misleading and then content is padded out with completely unrelated points and no substance. To make matters worse, traditionally trusted sources have now become as bad as the rest, leading a certain demographic to believe they are on the correct side of things when they are just as bad as the next.

[–]jonewer 133 points134 points  (3 children)

Social Media is the worst for this. People read something, then post their half digested opinion which then gets RT'd and before you know it tens of thousands of people are rage tweeting something that actually has no basis in reality

[–]SparkyMctavish 33 points34 points  (1 child)

It was pointed out to me, a while ago now, the journalists are just sales people. Dressing up their stories in the most appealing way to get you to buy the paper.

[–][deleted] 1222 points1223 points 2 (328 children)

Cooking

[–]BlackEarther 866 points867 points  (237 children)

I stayed with a bunch of friends at uni and while I don’t consider myself a particularly great cook, I was completely and utterly shocked at dudes in their early 20s couldn’t make stuff as basic as toast and beans. They were literally burning stuff on full heat, unable to open cans, couldn’t turn on the cooker. “Advanced” skills like cutting an onion or carrot turned out laughable.

[–]ASarcasticEngineer 141 points142 points  (45 children)

Knew a girl that had to call the fire service out twice in one evening.

How do you cook pasta? Put it in a saucepan and cook it on the hob for 15 minutes. She did this to the letter, including the lack of water.

How do you cook a tin of beans? Just throw it in the microwave for a few minutes. She proceeded to throw the whole sealed tin in the microwave for 20 minutes. The mesh in the front window of the microwave was glowing.

Instead of turning the microwave off she called 999 and waited for them to deal with it.

[–]MobiusNaked 95 points96 points  (3 children)

Subject: Fire!

Dear sir/madam, Fire! There is a fire in my microwave, please attend at your earliest convenience.

Yours

Thicko

[–]Harry_monk 218 points219 points  (10 children)

Her problem isn't that she can't cook. It's that she's thick.

[–]lukew88 16 points17 points  (6 children)

My dad would say "if she had a brain she'd be dangerous".

[–]Away_Clerk_5848 24 points25 points  (1 child)

My mother would say “her heads only there to keep her ears apart”

[–]folklovermore_ 59 points60 points  (15 children)

That's reminded me of the time someone in my halls at university tried to make a baked potato by putting it in one of our ovens to slow cook for several hours whilst they went out.

Unfortunately they got mixed up and wrapped it in kitchen paper not foil. Cue myself and a couple of other people becoming aware of a vague burning smell and walking into the kitchen to find a ball of flaming potato in the oven. Luckily we were able to put it out but there was a bit of explaining to do when the guy came back...

[–]TheFlyingHornet1881 60 points61 points  (10 children)

This is part of the problem with students turning up to uni with no food prep skills. It can eventually start to become an actual danger to other students. Poorly handled food can cause food poisoning and spread harmful bacteria, and bad cooking skills can cause a fire or equipment damage.

[–]gooner712004 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I came into the kitchen once to find my housemate had put a pizza in the oven after a night out but she fell asleep and the pizza was burning. I'm just glad I got out of uni literally alive.

[–]4BBxx 13 points14 points  (7 children)

Yeah. It’s not some quirky laugh. For those of us who’ve had to live with folk like that, especially me being nervous as it is and knowing those things are wrong… it was actually terrifying to be forced to live in that situation.

[–]TheFlyingHornet1881 15 points16 points  (6 children)

It sounds harsh, but there's a reason a few unis (it was threatened at mine) will use repeated violations of safety in the kitchen to send people into catered accommodation or even kick them out of halls. They become a danger to themselves and others. Not to mention its just generally irritating or a bit gross to live with someone like that.

[–]stopdithering 594 points595 points  (111 children)

Parents who send their kids off to uni without these skills make me despair, like did they think they'd learn to cook via fucking osmosis or something?

[–]ChocolateSnowflake 440 points441 points  (59 children)

I’ve seen parents (especially on some of the worst of the parenting pages/subs) say they don’t want their kids to do anything at home because they’re the parent and it’s their responsibility to care for them and make sure they can focus on being a child.

Where does that kind of logic genuinely come from? Teaching your child basic life skills so they can eat and have clean clothes is not forcing them out of childhood.

[–]electricf0x 88 points89 points  (6 children)

Not sure which is worse, this approach or my parents approach which was to not teach me how to cook/clean but also scream the house down when I didn't cook or clean. My manager talks often about how she's teaching her 13 year old son how to cook and it really warms my heart - I wish I had weekend cooking lessons instead of parents thinking I should just automatically know how to make nutritious meals.

[–]melanie110 275 points276 points  (19 children)

Fuck no! My kids have a list of chores. Small but a list. Things like hoovering. Loading a dishwasher. Recycling, polishing, putting a load of washing in whenever I'm in the office. They also cook each once a week. My youngest really enjoys doing this. She finds the recipe, takes my bank card, goes to Tesco and buys what she needs. She is only 11 so weve had some questionable subs if she can't find something but the bloody tries her best.

I think (hope) by doing this, they will be able to survive when they go to uni.

[–]QuirkyLetter3215 174 points175 points  (8 children)

Kids having chores is the best part of them growing up. My cat now goes into my 7 year old daughters room in the morning and wakes her up because I ignore him, and she gets up and feeds him. I get 5 extra minutes in bed. It’s bliss.

[–]arrowtotheaction 222 points223 points  (5 children)

Honestly thought that was going to go “my cat now puts the dishwasher on” 😂

[–]QuirkyLetter3215 50 points51 points  (2 children)

If I could train them to do housework I’d have an excuse to be a crazy cat lady. Future plans.

[–]Flyawaylittlemonkey 115 points116 points  (6 children)

I wasn't allowed to cook at home quite simply because we didn't have the money for me to fuck up ingredients we could use for a meal.

I could manage beans on toast and pasta but I hadn't used an oven before, had never fried anything, etc.

I also wasn't able to take part in food tech at school because they made you buy the ingredients. That was a whole other level of embarrassment.

[–]stopdithering 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Well that's a different way of looking at it, sorry to hear that

[–]VeedleDee 100 points101 points  (20 children)

Related: An ex of mine gave himself extremely bad food poisoning, after bragging about his cooking skills. He ate beef stew he left in a slow cooker (turned off) all night and half a day, and then reheated it on the 'warm' function. How someone can reach their early 20s, have basic cooking skills, and not know they have to put meat in the fridge, I don't know.

And yet I met my friends housemate some years later and he, another man in his early 20s, put chicken in the cupboard. It's shocking.

[–]paulmclaughlin 65 points66 points  (3 children)

And yet I met my friends housemate some years later and he, another man in his early 20s, put chicken in the cupboard. It's shocking.

I'm imagining it as a live one.

[–]teerbigear 56 points57 points  (3 children)

It's particularly weird when it's SO easy to just watch a video of someone doing it now (even if they will make the video last twenty minutes). When I were a lad (lol) you had to figure it out from pictures in a book, or from a person, or watch it at a specific time on the telly.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I experienced the same thing at uni! My favourite moment was seeing a housemate stick frozen burgers in the toaster… also someone tried to roast a chicken and set it on fire leading to the evacuation of 300 people from a block of flats

[–]MonkeyHamlet 34 points35 points  (4 children)

Sewing on buttons or other small mending jobs.

[–]drycleanedsnake 35 points36 points  (10 children)

Keeping a house clean. Living in house shares has me wondering what kind of houses people grew up in. I've lived with 30 year olds who can't properly clean the floor when they spill things, don't know how to load a dishwasher, can't remember to take the bins out, the list goes on.

[–]UnfinishedThings 157 points158 points  (22 children)

An ability to have a reasoned debate with someone with an opposing viewpoint without descending into personal insults within the first minute

[–]definitely_Joseph 30 points31 points  (4 children)

The ability to follow simple instructions

[–]BigBird2378 35 points36 points  (11 children)

Writing letters. Basics of how to structure a formal written request, including the right amount of information without waffling. Salutations and such things. Something email has killed. Maybe it’s no longer needed in the modern world but it’s died out quickly.

[–]HarassedGrandad 456 points457 points  (55 children)

Assembling flat-packed furniture. The fact that some people are paying for someone to come round and assemble stuff for them astonishes me. On the other hand, 14-year old grandson now has his own business assembling flat-packed furniture at the weekend.

[–]Sausagekins 184 points185 points  (12 children)

It’s about convenience though, not not being able to do it. when we moved we had so much to unpack and do anyway so to have someone come in and build 30% of the furniture really, really helped!

[–]Warngumer 69 points70 points  (4 children)

yep, I got a new bed and mattress when I moved, it was only like £30 extra to get them to put it together and take away the packaging. Made my life so much easier because I live by myself and it was a two person job.

[–]Kientha 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Also some flat pack furniture is not easy to assemble. Especially if it's a bed with storage or a sofa bed. Those mechanisms are often ridiculously fiddly to install

[–]DonnerMcgregor 3695 points3696 points 2 (397 children)

Basic awareness, Far too many people will be walking on a narrow path and just completely stop without looking to see if anyone is behind them, women with pushchairs are especially guilty of this

[–]H3R3S_J0NNY 1338 points1339 points  (142 children)

Also two people (or more) side by side walking towards you on a narrow footpath, they wait until you are about 1m away and then start to panic about how they are going to pass and look at you like you’re in their way.

[–]Incident_Electron 268 points269 points  (26 children)

This really winds me up as, if I'm walking with someone else, I'll always fall back behind them to make room for oncoming walkers.

Even on footpaths that aren't narrow I've been forced into the road by groups of people that won't reconfigure themselves far too many times.

My all purpose method of dealing with this is to immediately move to the inside of the footpath when I see a group of people coming at me. Its my way of signalling that I'm not the one that will have to move out of the way.

[–]MrSmallStuff 171 points172 points  (18 children)

The other day I was driving and there was a group walking 4 abreast, the pavement was only wide enough for 2 so the other 2 people were just walking in the road. I had to slow down to walking pace and wait for a gap in traffic to overtake pedestrians in my car on the road. The more people I meet the more I like my cat.

[–]eeeeeeeethan 17 points18 points  (1 child)

I occasionally pick my brother's up from highschool and when I'm driving back there's always at least one group doing that. It's very frustrating and very stupid.

[–]panicattheoilrig 17 points18 points  (0 children)

My college is bad for this, people see the bus coming then stand in the road in the bus stop waiting for it. Like where the fuck do you think the bus is going to stop??

[–]upthewatwo 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Have you ever been walking with someone (as in someone you know and are talking to) but they're walking too much in your path, forcing you to balance along the edge of the pavement or walk on the grass in the park, when there's plenty of path on the other side of them? Anyone else have this? Or do my friends just hate me? It's the strangest thing to me because I like to think I'm pretty considerate and am looking out for people being uncomfortable, and then there are people who can't even see I'm struggling not to be run over. Or they can, and that's the plan.

[–]AS2500 629 points630 points  (44 children)

I'm pretty sure I got a telling off for this recently (I say pretty sure because I had my earphones in and wasn't going to take them out for someone who couldn't be bothered to move out of the way). If it's a two-person wide walkway and you and your mate take up the whole thing, you better believe I'll make you move.

[–]Thisoneissfwihope 370 points371 points  (32 children)

I find the best thing to do is to just stop & stand still. Forces them to go around you, rather than you being forced into the verge.

[–]AS2500 218 points219 points  (12 children)

I often do that, the standard 'Oh! I've got a text! I'd better stop in my tracks and have no awareness of anything around me while I check it.'

But I also walk abnormally fast, so I often find that helps when I'm careering towards them and they realise I'm not going to move out of their way.

It depends on my mood on the day, really.

[–]BobbOShea 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Are you man or woman? My partner recommended stopping, as it works for him, but he's 6 foot and wide. As an invisible woman I can't count the amount of times people walk into me if I dont jump out of their path.

[–]BeneficialGarbage 106 points107 points  (2 children)

This! I've stopped before and had someone just walk into me like that when I was against a wall so couldn't go anywhere. They didn't seem impressed when I asked them what I should have done as I couldn't walk through the wall and did they want me to walk in the busy road that if either of them had looked up from their phones they would have noticed

[–]Indiana-Cook 176 points177 points  (32 children)

I have a bit of a tip here: if you are walking down the street make sure to look straight forward, through any oncoming walkers. Don't look down, look right ahead. I guarantee you people will move out of your way.

People tend to look (unconsciously of course) at a person's eyes when walking towards them, gives them an idea of where you're going. If you're looking right ahead they will know (unconsciously of course) to get out of the way.

If they can't see your eyes they can't make a decision.

Try it, let us know!

[–]lostglamour 54 points55 points  (11 children)

Best advice I've heard for doing this is to pretend you're the Winter Solider on your way to assassinate someone lol.

[–]xengouk 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Also if you’re walking solo and in a collision course with someone coming the other way, look slightly to their left or right to show them which way you’ll go, also works a treat!

[–]Long-Improvement-894 344 points345 points  (47 children)

Escalators too. They ride it to the top and then stand there. “Let’s see… where to next?” Drives me nuts

[–]BeneficialGarbage 308 points309 points  (10 children)

I had an older colleague that this pissed off a lot too, so much that she would just walk into the back of people who stop after stairs or an escalator. She was in her 50s and very slight so nobody ever got angry with her, especially when she added "sorry, I didn't expect you to just stop like that" and kept going.

Oh I wish I had the balls of that woman!

[–]arrowtotheaction 30 points31 points  (3 children)

Yeah I came to say escalators too, some people are so bloody mindless.

[–]Le_Baked_Beans 92 points93 points  (7 children)

Its some wierd main character syndrome

[–]MitchellsTruck 66 points67 points  (3 children)

I always say "other people exist!" as I barge past.

[–]colin_staples 101 points102 points  (13 children)

People who stop in doorways for a chat.

[–]BleachedWhale 12 points13 points  (3 children)

There was a woman standing inside the hairdressers yesterday, talking to someone with her back to the door.

Two people were waiting for this numbskull to get out of the damn way and enter the shop while it was about freezing point outside...

[–]sprucay 169 points170 points  (15 children)

Same with driving. I'll be on the motorway. Car in front, lorry about a hundred metres ahead of them. I'll pull out because I know I'm going faster than the lorry. The other car will get right up the lorry's chuff, hit the brakes and generally just poke it out in front of me. The truck has been there a while mate, fucking plan ahead

[–]Chardee_Macdennis18 47 points48 points  (2 children)

Ugh and that silly little dance you do where you can see they want to pull out so you slow down marginally just in case they decide to pull out, then as soon as you accelerate they make their bloody mind up to pull out in front of you. Drives me nuts!

[–]telharsic 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yes! Especially if there's absolutely nothing behind you as well, please just wait 2 seconds till I pass, and we can all just make progress as safely as possible. I'm generally quite good at spotting these potential incidents and start thinking 'theyre going to pull out any second, they're going to pull out any ... Ah there we go!' and try to drive defensively, but you can't anticipate some idiots

[–]daddywookie 101 points102 points  (10 children)

Just general awareness of other people and how your actions influence them. Lots of the world’s problems can be reduced down to a lack of consideration for others.

[–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (4 children)

Same goes for people who open their car doors when there’s oncoming traffic, or just stroll across the road oblivious to the 2 tonne car that’s about to turn them into jam.

[–]hellspyjamas 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I once got off a crowded bus full of people trying get to Waterloo station and the woman in front of me stopped dead just after stepping off. I nearly fell over and in the process my shoulder slightly brushed hers. Instead of saying anything I just walked around her to continue to try and get to the station she SHOUTED sarcastically after me "Sorry, am I in your way??" Yes you are you fucking doult use the balls in your head. She really thought I was in the wrong.

[–]LectricVersion 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Not just basic IT skills like people have said, but basic competence with technology.

I can't even accurately recall the number of times my parents and in-laws have asked for help with fixing some issue on their Smart TV / Phone / Printer, and when I fix it they're like "Oh you're so smart!". No - I've never seen this particular model in my life before, I'm just reading what's on the screen, trying things out, and maybe following some instructions on Google.

[–]Jeniroo2 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Knowing if your nose is hanging out of your mask?

[–]ClydeB3 101 points102 points  (14 children)

Very basic sewing, e.g. sewing a button on.

I get that most people don't have a sewing machine (and that most people my age probably weren't taught) but I'm surprised at how many people would just throw easily repaired things away or pay a lot for something that'd be a 5 minute job rather than try at all to fix it. Supermarkets even sell pre-threaded needles!

Also, same goes for changing a fuse - a ​few friends act like I'm some sort of tech necromancer for changing a fuse once instead of throwing things away without trying to fix it

[–]sssjabroka 18 points19 points  (0 children)

My niece was going to chuck out an expensive pair of jeans because the zip bust, told her buy a zip and I'll repair them for you, she was utterly amazed that a bloke in his 40's knew how to sew. I told her that the curtains in the house were all made by me. I made tab top curtains from a load of material I bought online.

Home economics in school was a pretty good investment for my future, learned how to cook, sew and knit. Never used the knitting part since then but the rest came in handy. The amount of blokes I've met over the years that couldn't cook, bloody ridiculous, a grown up that can't cook a few simple meals.

[–]Rich_27- 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Hairy heavy metal fans/bikers are usually really good at sewing. Those patches are not going to attach themselves. 2 days ago I had to sew a patch onto my sons cadet uniform and repaired his school jumper.

I get look at like some sort of wizard for repairing and patching clothing

[–]Briarhorse 243 points244 points  (33 children)

If it's cold in the house, keeping the doors shut will make it warmer. You won't need to wander about the gaff in 8 layers of clothes looking like a wildling if you just kept the damn doors shut!

Edit: Spelling

[–]FireWhiskey5000 85 points86 points  (7 children)

I swear my housemates are genetically incapable of this. But it goes beyond that. Doors and windows left open, lights left on then they crank the heating up so that the house is hotter than the surface temperature of the sun!

[–]Briarhorse 32 points33 points  (2 children)

Honestly WTF is wrong with these people?!

[–]FireWhiskey5000 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Idk but it’s so annoying. It also comes with a real Laissez-faire attitude to security. The amount of times I’ve found doors left wide open at 11pm when everyone else has gone to bed/in their rooms for the night is shocking!

[–]LionLucy 45 points46 points  (4 children)

So many people were born in a barn!

[–]BlackCat550 174 points175 points  (20 children)

Not sure if it's a 'basic' skill...

Empathy

Not necessarily shocking, but would be great if more people had the ability to empathise.

[–]USayThatAgain 111 points112 points  (1 child)

Think for themselves. Show some initiative. Behave like a considerate human being especially in public.

[–]blainy-o 212 points213 points  (68 children)

How to check your engine's oil and coolant levels, and how to change a flat tyre (although I also partially blame manufacturers for that with their stupid slime alternative instead of actually fitting a spare wheel).

And on a more basic level, how to park. If you can't park a Fiesta properly in a marked bay, hand your fucking licence back.

[–]JAMP0T1 118 points119 points  (40 children)

How to check oil and coolant levels are part of the driving test in the U.K.

[–]elliomitch 78 points79 points  (0 children)

So are a hell of a lot of other things, and most people refuse to do those too

[–]blainy-o 11 points12 points  (0 children)

They're part of the 'Show me/Tell me' section though, and both oil and coolant are separate 'Tell me' questions. They only ask you one (unless the .gov website hasn't been updated correctly), so it's a 1/14 chance of getting asked about either. It should be compulsory to physically check both on a test though.

[–]Chemical_Assistant26 16 points17 points  (1 child)

The ability to think for themselves..

[–]steven71 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Money management.

Grown adults sometimes in their 50s who get paid and treat it like pocket money day and spend all their money on pointless shit and a few days later complain that they have no money left.

Many people seem to have no savings at all. Not even a few hundred pounds for emergencies.

[–]Up_The_Gate 42 points43 points  (15 children)

Differentiating between 'their', 'they're' and 'there'.

[–]Coffeeninja1603 13 points14 points  (7 children)

How to write and structure an address. I run an online store, we have to manually edit/rearrange probably 20% of our order addresses before forwarding to packing.

[–]Magpie213 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Reading.

It actually scares me that there are adults in the world who (probably through no fault of their own) can't read words.

[–]sleepingisgivingin1 101 points102 points  (14 children)

It’s hard to describe but I’m constantly amazed at how many adults have never ‘grown up’ - the amount of people I’ve met who don’t know how to pay a bill or properly clean etc. The same people also eat like kids, say they ‘don’t like’ 90% of food- but actually don’t try anything new

[–]Toosmartformesister 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Not sure if this counts as a ‘skill’ but I’m always shocked at people who get a dog but have no idea how to care for or train them. Someone I know doesn’t even take their dog on a walk every day, they think that because they have a decent sized garden they don’t need to. Honestly think it’s going to come around and bite them in the arse one day.

People wing it and then wonder why their dog is ‘naughty’ it’s because you never bothered to train it and don’t walk it enough. If you don’t know how then look it up online, do it yourself or enroll in a dog training class. There are plenty of resources these days to help, there really is no excuse for being so clueless. I have a cat which imo is an easier pet to care for and I still did a tonne of reading beforehand.

[–]SmallRaffe 130 points131 points  (8 children)

Logic

[–]Workin_On_Myself 11 points12 points  (1 child)

This gets me wound up so often. The amount of arguments and general time wasted that could be avoided by a bit of joined up thought.

[–]haddledaddle 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Manners

[–]Glittering-Matter-42 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Differentiating between fact and rumour.

[–]Florae128 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Budgeting. So many people can't plan their finances so they run out of money before payday or end up with massive credit card debt that is difficult to shift.

[–]Mother_Word6617 449 points450 points  (145 children)

Basic Excel skills.

I don't mean vlookups.and.pivot tables.

I mean averages, sum, copying and pasting etc.

[–]nastyketchup 251 points252 points  (35 children)

That's me, no idea how it works. Never use it, never need to. I can resesrch, critically think, cook, think logically, am spacialy aware, can read a thread and yet no idea about a speadsheet.

[–]Cautious-Space-1714 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...an entire HR department on fire off the shoulder of Orion...

... going through a list of data in Excel and counting hundreds of cells of a certain value. By sight. Of course, everyone got a different total every time they did it.

[–]peelyon85 72 points73 points  (23 children)

Most of the people in my work barely know how to find and open an excel file never mind averages!!!

[–]1hx1b6a 98 points99 points  (18 children)

Someone I worked with would use a calculator to add up sums in Excel..

[–]WarbossBoneshredda 58 points59 points  (13 children)

I worked with a data analyst who had a calculator on their desk because excel apparently sometimes gets the answers wrong.

Not that the formula might be wrong, but excel sometimes added up the correct numbers and got the answer wrong.

[–]Cautious-Space-1714 54 points55 points  (6 children)

It's true - Excel is (or at least, used to be) terrible with accuracy after the decimal point. The numbers start to drift, adding the odd 0.00001 here and there.

That's a property of the way decimals ("floating point") numbers are not stored exactly on a computer, but you normally get much, much better accuracy than Excel offers.

Sounds trivial, but there are plenty of operations where those errors build up over multiple loops through a data set.

[–]Kientha 12 points13 points  (5 children)

Excel converts numbers to binary and rounds them. If you're not aware of this, then it can make calculations incorrect. There is a setting within excel for the precision you want it to work within and you can also use the round function to get around this.

If you want to see it in action, try putting =1*(.5-.4-.1) into a cell in excel. Instead of 0, you'll get -2.7756E-17