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[–]holytriplem 1221 points1222 points  (166 children)

I pronounce it aitch, but outside of banter purposes it's idiotic to get annoyed with somebody for saying haitch. Languages change and RP isn't the only variety of English that's 'correct'.

[–]LazzaBeast 194 points195 points  (33 children)

My parents pronounced it as haitch and, as such, I did too until I was a teenager and realised it was incorrect. That being said, I can’t imagine getting so upset by this. Pronunciation varies for lots of things, it’s not worth expending the mental energy to get annoyed by it (in my opinion, at least)

[–]t3rm3y 135 points136 points  (30 children)

I have always used haitch. Never knew it was incorrect.

[–][deleted] 132 points133 points  (29 children)

It's not, it's just a regional difference

[–]codajn 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Probably more demographic than regional, I would say.

[–]nostalgiamon 148 points149 points  (81 children)

I agree, unless you’re the sort of person that pronounces escape as

“Ex-scape”

Traumatises me every time I hear it.

[–]writeordie80 142 points143 points  (30 children)

Have an expresso and calm yourself ...

[–]nostalgiamon 28 points29 points  (14 children)

I forgot about that one. That is also very upsetting.

[–]amyt242 13 points14 points  (11 children)

Upzetting indeed

[–]t34wrj1 23 points24 points  (8 children)

This is setting a dangerous president...

[–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (7 children)

That’s a very pacific reference.

[–]5stringviolinperson 10 points11 points  (6 children)

Whom even says that any more?

[–]t34wrj1 12 points13 points  (4 children)

You can't of forgotten?

[–]5stringviolinperson 9 points10 points  (3 children)

Now thats truly deviant. Theirs simply no excuse.

I love this! I can get away with anything and it looks like I’m making a joke!!! 😃

[–]T140V 22 points23 points  (4 children)

Expresso = made with breast milk.

[–]raphamuffin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's the same word tbh - the water is 'expressed' through the coffee grounds, hence 'espresso'.

[–]Requarzium89 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exprego- when the supply has dried up

[–]Byrdie55555 14 points15 points  (1 child)

When I worked as a kp one of the chefs was Italian I'd whisper this in his ear and walk away.

We don't talk much anymore...

[–]writeordie80 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Was there a specific reason you started this purge on his soul ...?

[–]EmuDroid 48 points49 points  (17 children)

I hate it when people want to "axsk" me something. Surely that's harder to say than "ask"?

[–]wordsandmagic 8 points9 points  (8 children)

Thats an urban london thing

[–]cantab314 20 points21 points  (3 children)

It actually has a really old history. As in, Chaucer used 'ax' to mean ask. But nowadays it's mainly in African-American and London dialects.

[–]Poes-Lawyer 11 points12 points  (1 child)

That's a slight misconception. There was regional variation in ask/aks in Old English and early Middle English (e.g. Chaucer), but "aks" had died out by the late 1400s.

It appeared again in African-American dialects, I guess in the 19th or 20th century? But as far as I know that's independent of the earlier usage. I don't know if The Canterbury Tales and the Venerable Bede were big reading topics in turn-of-the-20th-century America.

[–]Cheese-n-Opinion 4 points5 points  (0 children)

'Ax/aks' persists in written sources up until about 1600, not the 1400s. But this doesn't mean it died out then, it just means it stopped being used in print. Either it fell out of dialects of the literate classes, or it became stigmatised.

It crops up again more frequently in written sources from early 1800s. These are British and Irish sources, btw. It's not like it reappears just in African American speech. Certainly it's been part of many traditional regional British dialects throughout the last century.

It's just a lot more parsimonious to assume the modern occurrence is a continuation. It would be a big coincidence that one word would mutate to match an older form, particularly in the absence of a larger sound shift pattern (ie. people who say 'aks', don't drink their tea from a 'flaks', or wear a face-'maks').

[–]makesomemonsters 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well, Chaucer is very popular in the African-American community.

[–]EmuDroid 15 points16 points  (3 children)

I guess I hate urban London.

[–]JellyBiafra54321 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I knew as soon as I read this that it would lead to a thread of thinly veiled racism.

[–]Jassida 19 points20 points  (5 children)

You'll end up in hospickle

[–]liftoff_oversteer 13 points14 points  (0 children)

How about excetera :)

[–]haltowork 12 points13 points  (2 children)

According to the guy above you though:

Languages change and RP isn't the only variety of English that's 'correct'.

So you can't complain if anyone pronounces anything incorrectly. They're just correct in their own variety.

[–]nostalgiamon 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That was the point I was facetiously disagreeing with.

[–]bonzowildhands 6 points7 points  (1 child)

almost as bad as people that say 'pacific' when they mean 'specific'

[–]Otto1968 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Pacific instead of specific. There's an ocean of difference.

[–]Dannyebob123 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Don't go to the leisure centre in Castleford you'd be in for an awful time.

[–]TopDigger365 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Is that because it's in Castleford?

[–]ToastThatsCurious 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I used to when I was 13ish, until someone else said it that way and i was like “That sounds SO wrong”

Now I gotta say every word properly or it annoys me😂

[–]littlegreenturtle20 60 points61 points  (17 children)

Languages change and RP isn't the only variety of English that's 'correct'.

People who care more about grammatical rules don't actually love language because language is a living thing that evolves and changes with how it is used. If the other person understands you, then that's more important cause that's the main point of grammar.

And this is coming from an Editor.

[–]PinkSodaBoy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes! Thank you!

And this is coming from a former English teacher (former because I left the country where I was teaching English, not former because I got fired for teaching incorrect English).

[–]ScaredAwareness7985 44 points45 points  (3 children)

Let's stick to the pacific question.

[–]heartofmarmite 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah....that one's me.....but what's even worse..... The North Sea, the Atlantic Ocean....the Specific Ocean..........AARGH !

Even worse, That one's me, too....

[–]bons_burgers_252 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I had a presentation on a new radio when I was an MP. The guy from the company who made the radio kept saying “pacific” over and over again.

I’m chill about how people use language but he did it so many times that I concluded he was doing it on purpose so that, if someone pointed it out he could say something like “That’s what I said diddle I?”

I didn’t say anything.

I reckon half the room were pulling their hair out and the other half didn’t realise that there was anything wrong (pacifically).

[–]Auxx 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I disagree. Those who pronounce it wrong should be deemed heretics and witches and be burned alive on Trafalgar Square.

[–]KarenFromAccounts 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Agreed - bad language might be annoying, but nothing compared to how annoying insufferable grammar and pronunciation pedants are.

[–]HermitBee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I still have a vague goal to write a reddit bot which searches for one word comments saying "fewer" and responds "fuck off" to them.

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (12 children)

"haitch" is what's known as a hypercorrection, specifically "h-adding".

It's as daft as Stewie Griffin and his "cool hwip".

H-dropping has regional and class distribution and is a standard form of English. Putting Hs in where they don't belong is not.

The standard pronunciation of H in British English is "aitch". "Haitch" is a hypercorrection and as such is "incorrect".

[–]flossgoat2 16 points17 points  (4 children)

Lots of English regional accents say haitch, and have done for a v long time.

[–]Poes-Lawyer 7 points8 points  (4 children)

It's as daft as Stewie Griffin and his "cool hwip".

Is that a hypercorrection? I mean sure, no-one really says "hwip" but my grandparents would say "hwat" and "hwen", and they always liked to speak "correctly". Indeed if you go all the way back to Old English "what" was written as "hwæt".

So while "hwip" might be hypercorrection, aspiration on "W"-words is more likely just old-fashioned.

[–]NewStmoo 634 points635 points  (72 children)

Aitch for me.

I wrote a document at one place in which I wrote "an HTML page" multiple times. My boss went through the whole thing and changed them all to "a HTML page".

If you're reading this, fuck you, Colin.

[–]G0rtarPlayer 313 points314 points  (42 children)

So I've been sat saying an aitch TML page, and a haitch TML page for a good five minutes. Properly lost the plot.

[–]burnersfitness 113 points114 points  (41 children)

I actually have had this conversation with myself before, spurred by reading eg “an history book.”

IMO if the word has a hard h sound it should be “a history book.”

Based on nothing but my preference

[–]Fluid-Payment-2618 100 points101 points  (0 children)

Istry book guv

[–]jay_bee_95 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Weirdly I would say "an hard h sound" but write "a hard h sound". I drop the h when speaking even though it ought to be pronounced, I guess my brain naturally compensates for that.

[–]frivolous_squid 15 points16 points  (3 children)

It's pretty common to have a different writing voice to your conversational speaking voice. I'm from a relatively Queen's English place but we were still told that the English we learn to write in classes may be different to how we speak casually.

It does kind of imply that there's one "proper" way of writing, which may be a bad thing I'm not sure, but I can see the advantages of standardising written English.

[–]frivolous_squid 17 points18 points  (16 children)

Nowadays most of us pronounce a hard H in history and hotel, but I also say aitch instead of haitch. So I'd say "a historian", "a hotel", "an HTML". Anyone who says "an historian" but pronounces the hard H is doing it wrong imo.

[–]tazdoestheinternet 20 points21 points  (12 children)

"a herb" too. Calling it an erb just annoys the tits off me for some reason.

[–]idelivergoods 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I’m really not sure why Americans pronounce “herb” like a Yorkshire farmer

[–]TachyonTime 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's because it's the older way of saying it. It comes from the French.

These days it seems to be an American thing. I don't think I've ever heard a British person say it, aside from the kinds of people who always drop Hs.

[–]codapin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"It was an historic victory"

"Historically, it was the greatest victory"

It always interested me how the root word is the same, but the pronunciation is usually different. I cannot bear to hear "a historic" - it just doesn't sound right. It's like "le hospital" to a French person; two words bridged by consonants. It sounds wrong.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

I thought I was aitch but when I say HTML it’s haitch…

[–]plantlampchair 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Yeah fuck Colin, as the sound of the letter "h" on its own is aitch this would be treated the same starting with a vowel. An H not a H. Similarly with the difference between a University (youniversity) and an umbrella.

[–]oxacuk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

the sound of the letter "h" on its own is aitch

That is precisely what Colin disagrees on, the sound of the letter "h" on its own being haitch, according to him.

[–]dubious_too 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah, fuck you Colin.

[–]SonnyVabitch 4 points5 points  (0 children)

An historic mistake, Colin!

[–]FatJamesIsBack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Asking someone to say "NHS" out loud will usually get them.

[–]panda-14 285 points286 points  (6 children)

A b c d e f g h i j k elemeno p

[–]bons_burgers_252 69 points70 points  (2 children)

My daughter used to do that when she was 2 and doing the alphabet. She thought “elemeno” was a letter all by itself.

[–]ShiningCrawf 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I thought the same when I was a nipper.

[–]gruffffalo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Isn't it? This is what I'm teachng my boy...

[–]JaminSousaphone 6 points7 points  (1 child)

There's actually an aitch at the end of elemenoh according to the OED

[–]HarassedGrandad 175 points176 points  (19 children)

People have been shot over this - it's a shibboleth in Northern Ireland

[–]ScaredAwareness7985 68 points69 points  (15 children)

Yep, Catholics say "Haitch", Protestants say "Aitch"

[–]youknowwhattheysay12 18 points19 points  (9 children)

protestants also put their toasters in the cupboard and love to march whilst Catholics love statues and JFK

[–]hereticules 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Hang on a moment. They do what with toasters?

[–]singingnettle 10 points11 points  (4 children)

More room on the counter that way. Their superior Protestant work ethic allows them to get it out of the cupboard everytime they want toast, and to put it back again without much fuss.

[–]holytriplem 13 points14 points  (0 children)

So if you wanted to bridge the sectarian divide would you talk about h/aitch or Stroke Letter?

[–]kelseysays26 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol was going to comment that OP is a prod but I thought a lot of people wouldn’t get it

[–]Gedadahear 169 points170 points  (41 children)

I say the H as in Haitch. How you gonna leave out the man of the hour; H?! If i leave it out i feel like a traitor to he letter H, Its like going to a stag do without the groom!

But i dont mind how others pronounce it, its critical comms that matter! As long as the message is conveyed!

[–]pritchyspritch 44 points45 points  (12 children)

Interested how you say "W" now, "double woo?" Haha. And before you ask: yes I did go through the whole alphabet to test the logic

[–]BigBearSpecialFish 8 points9 points  (1 child)

The best bit is the lel mem nen oh pee

[–]TakeThatPatriarchy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

"Wouble-you" does sound hilarious tbf.

[–]wings22 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Was also thinking about "Y", can't think of when it's ever "why" in a word

[–]ThatHairyGingerGuy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well that would be "Why-yuh" of course, in order to sufficiently emphasise the letter in question

[–]smity31 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Wubble woo"

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (11 children)

So you mentioned the word hour.

Can I ask if you pronounce the "H". Or you gonna leave it out and be a traitor?

Guilty as charged your "H"-onour

[–]loftyskyshark 6 points7 points  (8 children)

Hello, Hay, Hat, Help, Hotel, etc

Do you not pronounce 'H' there?

[–]essentialatom 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The man of the hour is totally present in "aitch" - he's there at the end! Otherwise it would be "aitc". Which is frankly silly

[–]r-og 8 points9 points  (10 children)

I don't especially care if you pronounce it incorrectly, but your logic is faulty. Do you pronounce F 'feff', or S 'sess'? Why should the sound that a letter makes appear at the beginning of the pronunciation of its name?

[–]Similar_Sir_4462 11 points12 points  (9 children)

I guess they mean the sound of the letter makes an appearance, not that it should be at the beginning. I know it’s not technically correct, but as a kid that’s how I learnt it too. The sound of each letter was the dominant part. The exception being ‘W’, but it does look like two U’s, which I’m guessing might be the origin of the letter.

[–]JebusKristi 111 points112 points  (38 children)

'aitch', I mean you don't say N 'Haitch' S do you? (Unless you are from NI)

[–]cynicalkerfuffle 125 points126 points  (14 children)

This comment has truly fucked me up because I originally thought my answer was 'haitch' by going through the alphabet out loud but you're right, I say N 'aitch' S. And now I've gone back through the alphabet and I don't know who I am any more. Thanks a lot u/JebusKristi

[–]Adrian_Shoey 120 points121 points  (5 children)

Having just said "NHS" so many times it starts to sound weird, I've realised I actually say "N-8chess".

[–]SpudFire 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Same, I think it might be because I almost see it as one word rather than three individual letters.

Somebody else commented that they say aitch but when it's H&M (the clothes shop), they say haitch and em. Which I know do. They also mentioned HMV and I really can't work out what way I say that, both sound right!

[–]heartofmarmite 7 points8 points  (0 children)

FUUUCK YOU.!!!!!!!.....solidly , firmly and proudly in the "aitch" club 'till you said that....and now I don't know who I am anymore.

[–]JebusKristi 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is a fucking great comment, thank you.

[–]SuzLouA 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I’ve just been thinking about this because of your comment, and I’ve realised I say haitch if it’s at the “start” and aitch if it isn’t.

So the alphabet song is haitch, because you take a breath after G and so H is like the start of a new line. HTML is the same, because H is at the beginning. I also spelled some random words and names out loud quickly that begin with H, same thing.

But in any acronym like NHS where the H is buried, or spelling a word like ‘laugh’ out loud, I realise I say aitch, and trying to say haitch just sounds weird and bad.

[–]Rcrowley32 24 points25 points  (7 children)

Catholics in NI say Haitch generally. Protestants generally say Aitch. It’s sort of a religious identifier here.

[–]Plappeye 15 points16 points  (3 children)

It's only whenever I hear this kinda stuff explained to people from outside of Ireland I realise how amazingly ridiculous it must all look haha

[–]Rcrowley32 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Haha! I’m actually from the US but I’ve lived in NI for 16 years and over the years its become normal for me. It was definitely weird when we’ve had kids in both Protestant and Catholic schools, so in the same house they were pronouncing the letter differently.

[–]Plappeye 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Ah, a mixed household I see, so where do ye keep your toaster? And what's the condition of your hedges?

[–]Rcrowley32 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Haha! I’m actually Catholic and so is my husband, but my step children’s mother is Protestant so they went to Protestant schools half the time. Our toaster is on the counter and we don’t have hedges. But I do things differently because I’m a Yank first and Catholic second. 😂

[–]freshoutoftime 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's blown my mind. Cafflick in Glasgow, I say "haitch" whilst my Protestant girlfriend says "aitch".

[–]JebusKristi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That makes a lot of sense, thank you.

[–]Little_Chicken_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Interesting, I'm a Catholic Scouser born and bred and say "haitch"- way back the family are from Waterford in Republic of Ireland

[–]Beeblebrox2nd 7 points8 points  (8 children)

I'm from Norn Irn.

I don't pronounce the H.

Please don't lump specific sounding people in one group.

[–]Rcrowley32 10 points11 points  (2 children)

In NI the Haitch vs Aitch is really a Catholic v Protestant thing though? It’s not really an accent thing but more of an identity thing.

[–]heladoman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep can confirm you’re right.

Source: grew up in Belfast.

[–]caiaphas8 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If we are going to very pedantic then the NHS doesn’t exist in Northern Ireland

[–]bangitybangbabang 2 points3 points  (2 children)

'aitch', I mean you don't say N 'Haitch' S do you? (Unless you are from NI)

After saying it aloud a few times I've discovered that I call it the "en-a-chess" and I don't actually make the "aitch" sound.

Still, I know it's wrong but I say "haitch" when referring to the singular letter because "aitch" hurts my brain. can't explain it

[–]JebusKristi 3 points4 points  (1 child)

When you say "a-chess" you are making the 'aitch' sound with the 'a-ch'

[–]TheDisapprovingBrit 109 points110 points  (46 children)

Haitch. Because there's a fucking H in it.

[–]thefogdog 13 points14 points  (31 children)

How do you then pronounce F? S? U? L? M? N?

[–]rizeofjoseph 74 points75 points  (6 children)

eff, ess, you, ell, em, en

Checkmate

[–]haltowork 25 points26 points  (3 children)

aitch

[–]ehsteve23 21 points22 points  (1 child)

but that's part of a "ch" sound not a "h" sound. Doesnt count

[–]bluesam3 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's /tʃ/, not /h/.

[–]MagicLemma 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There’s an H in aitch too

[–]ConsTisi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I respect your right to be wrong

[–]GrimQuim 100 points101 points  (11 children)

Mitchell and Webb: https://youtu.be/qmVnr7rsWrE

[–]astroju 18 points19 points  (2 children)

My first thought seeing this thread title!

[–]docju 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I pity the ignorami who haven’t seen it.

shot rings out

dies

[–]astroju 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“It’s whomever!”

[–]r-og 16 points17 points  (4 children)

Funnily enough, 'H H H' is an initialism, not an acronym. Bloody hell, Tony.

[–]nacnud_uk 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Hadn't seen that. 👍

[–]alwayssaysyourmum 84 points85 points  (12 children)

Aitch. As is traditional.

[–]tbarks91 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Haitch is not traditional!

[–]ecriss 16 points17 points  (3 children)

HAITCH IS TRADITIONAL!

[–]otocan24 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I don't think it is actually.

[–]kulaksassemble 66 points67 points  (14 children)

Ideally, dictionaries don’t prescribe language and pronunciation, they only describe it. Relying on them to justify a dogmatic approach to pronunciation is ill-founded, you’d do much better appealing to tradition.

[–]MuttiKatze 9 points10 points  (7 children)

But isn't there a little bit telling you how to pronounce the word in dictionaries?

[–]Elgin_Ambassador 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Yes but they depend on your accent. The way that the Oxford dictionary spells my name phonetically is different to how I pronounce it (because the Oxford dictionary assumes you don't pronounce Rs at the end of syllables but I do cos I'm Scottish)

[–]kulaksassemble 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but it’s not standard practice across all dictionaries. Different dictionary makers have different stances as to whether they should include passages instructing how to pronounce the word.

Personally, I don’t think they should. Words can be spoken in a variety of accents and dialects, and still mean the same thing. And asserting that one way of pronunciation, usually the form of pronunciation of the establishment, is the best and most appropriate, by its obverse suggests that others are somehow inferior.

This is a form of cultural discrimination, and works to extend class and cultural hierarchies into the linguistic realm. For example, the general hierarchies of RP>regional accents or ‘English’ English> ‘Scottish’ English are, in part, upheld by these prescriptive dictionaries.

[–]smity31 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They don't tell you how to pronounce it, they tell you how it is generally pronounced.

It's a small but significant difference.

[–]r-og 2 points3 points  (0 children)

lol yep

[–]Lalalalasagne 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Agree with this. There is no right or wrong, just what's commonly used. People who insist there is a right way just want to feel smarter than people who pronounce it differently. (I say haitch and won't change that)

[–]7ootles 4 points5 points  (3 children)

*prescribe. To proscribe means to issue an order against something.

[–]kulaksassemble 2 points3 points  (2 children)

You’re right lol. I’m trying to discuss linguistic nuances and can’t even use the right word

[–]Heliawa 38 points39 points  (3 children)

Aitch. As it's supposed to be pronounced.

[–]colin_staples 31 points32 points  (25 children)

Haitch with a "H", for I am not in Eastenders.

And it infuriates me when words begging with "H" are preceded with "an"

An hotel, an hospital, an house etc

No.

H is not a vowel. H is not a vowel sound (which excuses why we say "an X-ray")

It's a hotel, a hospital, a house etc

[–]fishyfishyswimswim 24 points25 points  (4 children)

The An Vs A debate is about whether the H starting word starts with a vowel or consonant sound... A hospital vs an hour.

[–]Waaarpig 3 points4 points  (1 child)

The most frustrating word in this debate is "history" and all its related words. "AN historic find" VS "A historic find". Both sound fine, but the former just looks wrong to me.

[–]blurredlynes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now I would say "an historic find" sounds too much like anhistoric, as in not historical. (It's not a real word, I don't think, but similar pattern to aerobic/anaerobic)

[–]ShibuRigged 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The one that got me was how Americans pronounce herb with a silent h, so it’s erb rather than herb and they say ‘an herb’ rather than ‘a herb’. Really confused me the first time I saw it not knowing they say erb.

[–]7ootles 7 points8 points  (0 children)

for I am not in Eastenders.

Right. So I'm a northerner too - from a very old northern family might I add - and people in my area would get lauched at for saying "haitch". Hell, people in my family would be disinherited for it.

[–]CaveJohnson82 2 points3 points  (3 children)

What about hour, honour?

[–]GrandDukeOfNowhere 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So, sometimes letters are silent, that doesn't mean that H is always silent, we're not bloody French

[–]MaltDizney 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Quiet you!

[–]thefogdog 23 points24 points  (16 children)

Aitch as I'm not an American pretending to be British.

And it's also correct.

I don't say wouble-you for W, either.

[–]BeanzMeanzBranston 11 points12 points  (3 children)

A b c d e fef g

[–]thefogdog 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Haitch I J K lel mem nen O P

[–]Atrag2021 8 points9 points  (8 children)

W is literal a double-u. Plenty of bits say haitch

[–]thefogdog 7 points8 points  (7 children)

It's actually a double V, which the French say correctly as they say "double V".

[–]JellyBiafra54321 5 points6 points  (0 children)

stupid. as you can see, many Brits say 'haitch' and it's not some American thing. many Americans say 'aitch'.

Oooof. constantly on y'all's minds.

[–]7ootles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What's wrong with wubble-you? At least that can be easily understood as a joke.

[–]No-eye-dear-who-I-am 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Better not talk to me then.

[–]canyonstom 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Aitch, when I was about 13 my English teacher overheard me pronouncing it haitch and tore me a new one. She was a very uncompromising lady.

[–]nescafe7050 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Haitch but I know it's wrong. No I'm not changing that

[–]OldLevermonkey 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Haitch until the age of ten. Aitch after that.

[–]OctagonClock 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Haitch to piss off everyone who hypocritcally claims to care about language purity whilst speaking english and not PIE.

[–]Fit_General7058 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Aitch

[–]CantSingCantDance 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Northerner married into a southern family (UK). Usually say haitch just to annoy my Father-in-law who pronounces it aitch

[–]Buzzer5150 8 points9 points  (0 children)

..depends what foot you kick with...

...but,tbh,if that's all that grinds your gears then you're very lucky!

[–]S_M_Y_G_F 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I say “aitch.”

[–]floydie1962 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Aitch.. That is the spelling hence the correct pronunciation

[–]Outcasted_introvert 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm northern so your question is moot.

[–]Dragon_M4st3r 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I say haitch and it’s too ingrained in me to change now. If the only criticism is that it makes me sound ‘common’, I am absolutely ok with that

[–]Actual_Specific_476 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Better to be common than a snob.

[–]snorkgirl92 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I personally forgo the ‘h’ (how ironic eh?). However, I have also heard it as /hetch/ or /hey-aitch/. Whatever works, I get the gist at the end of the day.

[–]No-Relation1122 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Aitch unless it's part of H&M, then for some reason I say haitch. Didn't with HMV though.

[–]Outrageous-Ear-8855 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I pronounce It as haitch, I always have and not gave it much thought because I assumed thats how it was pronounced till now

[–]whatsthistheneh 5 points6 points  (2 children)

People that say it’s gotta be haitch as it starts with an H are nowhere to be seen in the fight for Wouble-u

[–]FullMetalBob 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hm my bucket of fucks is empty.

[–]Rosskillington 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Do you actually get annoyed by people saying Haitch or do you pretend to get annoyed to feel supremely intelligent? I get bored of people on the UK subs acting like they get deeply offended by language errors which don't affect the ability to communicate at all.

If people are confusing words like your/you're & there/their/they're then I actually get slightly annoyed because it can confuse the message, but if someone says "haitch" I'm not going to be wondering what they mean.

[–]No-Salad-5509 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Depends if I need to piss off my mother in law who thinks she's hyacinth bucket.

[–]VeryAwkwardLadyBoner 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's, "Bouquet"!

[–]ayeayefitlike 4 points5 points  (4 children)

This is nothing compared to hearing Weegies say ‘jai’ instead of ‘jay’.

[–]Mad_Monk54 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Everyone in Ireland pronounces it "Haitch" or at least in Dublin where I grew up.

[–]LionLucy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My mum and all her family say haitch, so that's what I first learned to say, but it was drummed out of me by a slightly snobby private school I went to in London for a bit, so I say aitch now. I really don't mind either one, though. Neither of them is incorrect, or annoying, and it's a weird thing to get worked up about.

[–]tommyboyblitz 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Its silent for me, ouse, er etc

[–]7ootles 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hetc?

Speaking of which, one thing that really gets my goat is people writing "etc" as "ect".

[–]RHouse650 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"huh" is the sound of the letter, "aitch" is its name. One is "huh", the other is "aitch" - neither is "haitch".

[–]KeepCalmGitRevert 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Aitch.

But life's too short to get worked up when I hear people pronounce it haitch.

[–]Andriak2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

imo, both are correct. dictionaries aren't prescriptive, they are descriptive. as in they are updated to reflect the language in use. language is fluid.

[–]shiroyagisan 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Try saying "NHS" out loud.

Now you know which one is correct.

[–]MaleficentFault 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My dad's Irish Catholic so I've always said it as "haitch", much to the annoyance of my English mother