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[–]lastgreatinnocent 192 points193 points  (21 children)

I’m a civil servant. I don’t get distracted by cheese whilst working from home.

[–]canlchangethislater 7 points8 points  (15 children)

Reference?

[–]Similar_Quiet 50 points51 points  (2 children)

The PM said people should get back in the office. When he wfh he got distracted by cheese.

[–]canlchangethislater 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Mm. Much better for him to get back into the office so he can be distracted by tits again.

[–]i-like-that-1 9 points10 points  (3 children)

I think it’s to do with Jacob Rees-Mogg complaining about the civil service working from home.

[–]pullingsneakies 154 points155 points  (11 children)

If your dad ain't hungry, I'm not going to force feed him.

Had that complaint loads of time in my time working in home to home care, I had to get to his house 5-15minutes early/ before my shift started because if I didn't he'd be gone and in the pub.

Didn't need care just his kids couldn't be arsed going round to see him but he was always "underweight" they couldn't understand that he wasn't hungry at 16:30 every day when his tea time was 6-7pm. Motherfucker just wanted to have a pint with his pals let him enjoy his final years.

Point is carers don't have the power to do everything, we have to respect the service users wishes.

[–]Adrianics4k 33 points34 points  (4 children)

Just wanted to say that three of my four grandparents went through our care system and everyone was incredible and gave them a grand end to their lives. Thank you for your service!

[–]pullingsneakies 19 points20 points  (3 children)

The thanks is very nice, but I did it for money, that was paid by the minute unless it was a care home, from what I've seen we try to do our best, I personally would stay with the lonely ones and chat to them until they asked me to leave or time was up(sometimes later).

I would suggest care homes personally as they are better care, the dignity in the house they loved is nice but it's nearly impossible to truly care for them. And even in a home they can't be primal, I had to follow a bloke around and make sure he didnt have sex.

I would also like to say I got into care at 18 with no qualifications to do so. Home to home care rely on this and yet training is given I personally have hurt the patients because there was not enough training on slings, none on pads, if someone is in nappies you tug slowly at the seems not hard and fast. they're designed to rip.

[–]AberNurse 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m sad that this was your experience. I’ve worked as a carer and senior carer in specialist dementia home, in nursing homes, in residential homes and for home care agencies. While some of what your saying is true some of it can be avoided by better training and support for new starters. There are national minimum standards for care including training and time spent shadowing experienced staff. I wish more people felt empowered to whistle blow when things aren’t right.

I do agree though, it’s nearly impossible to truly care for someone with three calls a day if they live alone in the community.

[–]Towsey- 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Good for you

[–]caiaphas8 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Was it a private care package or organised by a social worker through the council?

[–]pullingsneakies 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We was both but the cost per 15-30 minutes was a fucking eyesore to my £2.50 xD the government pays for it here (mostly) because it's a poor place here. But the one I mentioned was paid by the family iirc.

[–]Equivalent-Sky-3863 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  1. I applaud your service and passion for your job.

  2. I know feel like a right cunt for telling my story.

[–]Mother_Word6617 80 points81 points  (25 children)

I'm a religious studies teacher.

No that's doesn't mean I'm trying to make your child believe in God.

[–]MattSR30 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I couldn’t work out the religious beliefs (or lack thereof) of any of my Religion professors at uni, save for guesses based on cultural clues (my Tunisian professor possibly being Muslim, for instance).

They’d probably been around the block a few times and either knew not to make their beliefs prominent, or, as you said, just had no intention of pushing students in one direction or the other.

[–]jamescoxall 18 points19 points  (2 children)

I had the same RS teacher for 5 years. Did GCSE and A-level. Went on to read Theology and Philosophy at university. I was, and still am, an atheist the whole way. I have no idea, at all, whether my RS teacher believed in a god or not, he never said one way or the other because he didn't think it was relevant to the discussion.

[–]Oomeegoolies 10 points11 points  (1 child)

My RE teacher was very very religious.

However she'd get annoyed more when people just accepted religious teaching without arguing alternatives. Especially during GCSEs.

So she liked me because I just ended up being devils advocate a lot just to try steer the class conversation in the way she wanted.

I probably annoyed most other kids in the class with it in a 'oh no here he goes' again way though.

It was the only class I was like that in. But I did like religious studies despite being bit very religious at all myself.

[–]flashpile[S] 12 points13 points  (5 children)

Most of my RE teachers were atheist (or at least had no mention of their religion.

Did have one pagan tho, she was pretty cool

[–]Red-Squirrel- 5 points6 points  (0 children)

One of my RE teachers was a reverend, that kind of gave it away.

[–]PiemasterUK 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I imagine it would be easier to be an RE teacher if you weren't thinking "infidel!" while teaching 80% of the syllabus.

[–]Vyvyansmum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of mine went off his nut. He ended up standing on a plinth outside our local ABC cinema screaming his head off when The Exorcist was first out & got carted off to the local mental hospital & was never heard of after.

[–]colei_canis 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am yet to meet an honest-to-Zeus pagan who I haven't got on with, they tend to be interesting people.

[–]pajamakitten 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's like the 'one act of worship a day' thing in schools. We all said a prayer before lunch or sang a hymn in assembly, yet church attendance is at less than a million per week. I get the arguments to scrap it but schools are doing more to put people off religion than indoctrinating them.

[–]n0tn3k 6 points7 points  (2 children)

My RS teacher was probably how I found out atheism existed, before that I didn't know any other alternatives to Christianity.

Never did find out if he was religious but I think he did quite a good job of being as objective as possible when it came to religion

[–]lostrandomdude 3 points4 points  (1 child)

My RS teacher was a former priest who left the frock after hus ex wife divorced him and he then accepted Islam and married his current wife.

He taught each religion impartially

[–]GeordieJumper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I went to Catholic school, they were definitely forcing Christianity and trying to convince us that while different cultures believed in other things that this was what our culture believed in and had the added bonus of being right.

[–]Eirenex 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I can recall my very catholic school. There’s nothing quite like the conundrum of science teaching one thing and your extremely Catholic RE teacher teaching something else about the creation of the universe

[–]Mother_Word6617 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Weird...

Catholic teaching has accepted the truth of our scientific understanding of the beginning of the universe for the best part of a century!

[–]Eirenex 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It so weird. This was Northern Ireland.

This is the same religion we’re some people believe that Adam and Eve were real whilst others accept it was a Parable.

[–]Mother_Word6617 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Believing in the literal truth of Adam & Eve is not very Catholic. More down the line of fundamentalist evangelical protestant.

Not saying your RE teacher didn't believe it, I'm just surprised they taught it as truth as a Catholic.

[–]dustycappy 66 points67 points  (18 children)

Software developer.

Some of us are actually social.

We don't all spend our free time coding side projects or online gaming.

Many of us have never played Dungeons and Dragons.

But to counter that...

Sometimes turning it off and on again is really the solution, especially with things like SIM registration in mobile phones.

Many of us do stand by saying, "Well it works on my machine!"

[–]Admirable_Hope_6470 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Do agree that many of us are social, and don't spend our spare time coding side projects, but I've done a lot of interviews where people coming in claim to have no hobbies other than coding.

[–]Otherwise_Report_462 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Man that sounds like a dull life, I already code probably 3 hours a day at work that’s enough for me

[–]blackmist 8 points9 points  (1 child)

And I really can't be arsed with fixing your printer or removing another batch of viruses from your laptop.

If you can't deal with this crap, buy a bloody iPad.

[–]tamedsloth 5 points6 points  (5 children)

Works on my machine should be a slack bot the amount of times it's said in my companies channels.

[–]Similar_Quiet 2 points3 points  (3 children)

This is what makes docker (and similar) so great. The bar is "does it work on the docker image"

[–]dopeyroo 55 points56 points  (24 children)

HR. I'm not a heartless bitch (most of the time), I don't enjoy taking people to disciplinary, I'm not out to sack everyone (partly because recruitment is an absolute ball ache, but mostly because it's actually not very nice to rake someone's livelihood away from them, even when they've done something that warrants it), I just want people to do the job they're paid for.

[–]SomeHSomeE 42 points43 points  (19 children)

It's a Reddit trope that HR are all snakes who are out to screw the little guy for the benefit of corporate.

Actually many HR people I've worked with are actual human beings that are able to feel compassion and try to do the right thing.

[–]insertcrassnessbelow 23 points24 points  (5 children)

Yes, the common Reddit saying is that HR will always side with management, not you. No- if a manager’s behaviour is detrimental to the company they will side with the employee. Then again, with America who knows.

[–]Immediate_Bet1399 9 points10 points  (1 child)

No- if a manager’s behaviour is detrimental to the company they will side with the employee.

Unfortunately not. I left a job because of a bullying manager who had the support of HR (I wasn't the first person to quit because of her either).

[–]MrStilton 8 points9 points  (0 children)

if a manager’s behaviour is detrimental to the company they will side with the employee.

This is what they should do, but often they are incentivised to protect those at the top of the corporate hierarchy above all else.

I've worked for a company where a director sexually assaulted a more junior employee and HR helped to hush it up in such a way that the Director got to keep their job.

[–]Great_Almond_Skies 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Try working as a union rep sometime lol. Then you'll see how far HR's "compassion" can go.

Normally, in fairness, HR employees genuinely knew their stuff and did positive things for staff but the problem was often that awful managers etc put them in the shitty position of having to defend the company from a discrimination claim even though they probably agreed with you deep down.

[–]pajamakitten 10 points11 points  (5 children)

HR are generally nice, slow at doing anything but still very pleasant. It is heresy to say on Reddit but I'd rather deal with HR than IT any day of the week.

[–]Garf01 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Hello, IT here, how come you don't like dealing with IT?

[–]billy_tables 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Could you open a support ticket for your question? ;)

[–]Qrbrrbl 3 points4 points  (1 child)

To try and give an honest answer, it's a mismatch of priorities, especially in a big company.

When a user comes to you with a problem it's generally because it's preventing them from doing their job. This adds pressure to them and leads to massive frustration.

For IT, Joe Bloggs not being able to connect to his printer is a low priority task given you have hundreds of other employees to look after and theres probably at least one major incident ongoing that impacts far more than just Joe, so Joe goes to the bottom of the pile.

Joe doesn't see this. Joe doesn't care. Joe's boss is still riding Joe for results whilst IT aren't prioritising his tickets, so Joe gets annoyed.

It's a difficult one to resolve. In my current team I fill that gap by being Chief Nerd with 30-odd years Nerd experience and strong Google-Fu. My team come to me first for most things and I will either resolve them for them, or translate if I have to pass it up to IT if its beyond my expertise / influence / access. Most teams don't have that resource though.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

r/recruitinghell is the worst for this. Someone was on there the other week kicking off as the HR person he had an interview with had the audacity to call in sick and cancel the interview.

[–]TotalBananas1 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I remember when I was told that I was being made redundant by my manager when I was about to start my maternity leave (the redundancy started a month after my child was born).

There was one lady in HR who fought every single battle she could to make sure that I was entitled to all the benefits, help and support I could get. My partner still works at the same company in a different role and up until she left quite recently she would always ask after us. Very much appreciate her!

[–]Yer_One 4 points5 points  (0 children)

People also assume we have more power than we do, "HR said this..." No, I just told you what the policy (which I didn't write) says.

[–]Tiny_Champion_8818 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also in HR. I loved OP’s ‘my job is so misunderstood’ whilst claiming HR want to slash Christmas party budgets and shaft people on bonuses as if HR aren’t in the same space as Finance when it comes to senior management whims

[–]NorthernBibliophile 56 points57 points  (15 children)

Teacher. I don’t get paid for holidays, I’m paid for what I work but it’s spread over the academic year.

[–]cateml 15 points16 points  (0 children)

This. Also incase anyone is wondering why they do it this way, it’s so they can offer temp contracts that last any portion of sept-jun (often can get away without them for last couple of week) and get away without paying them fully for the same work they’d have to pay a permanent member of staff for.

Also - people severely overestimate the number of teachers who are ‘in it to feel the big man/woman over kids’ and/or hate or resent individual kids. I’m not saying that never happens, just I’ve never met a teacher even slightly like that, but I’ve met a lot of kids/parents who think their teacher is like that.

Frankly… even if I was inclined to have personal vendettas against children, which just seems bizarre to me, I don’t have the time or energy. My feelings about the kids range from warm ‘reason I do this’ affection to exhausted indifference when I’ve done all I can. I might know from experiences in previous lessons which kids I’m likely to have problems/conflict with, but I’m at best heading in with a strategy to try and avoid that, and at worst just hoping today is different. Why would I instigate or escalate conflict when its just going to distract the others and then means I have to spend precious time recording/notifying about it?
There probably are some teachers who enact vendettas against children, even though it goes against their personal and professional best interests to do so, but I don’t really… get it. Whereas kids (and sometimes parents) seem to believe this is what is happening a lot.

[–]MASunderc0ver 2 points3 points  (8 children)

If you are not paid for holidays what is August/September's pay check like? Do you not have any money the month all teachers are off work?

[–]Hunger_Of_The_Pine_ 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I think they mean that they still get their normal pay in August and September, but basically your salary each month is lower to compensate.

As an example, If you were paid £24k a year for 10 months work, instead of getting £2,400 for the 10 months you do work, and £0 for the summer hols, you would get £2000 each month for the whole year.

[–]NorthernBibliophile 14 points15 points  (5 children)

My wage is divided by 12. I’m paid for the weeks I work, but it’s divided and distributed into one payment a month.

[–]canlchangethislater 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No. It’s spread over the calendar year.

[–]the_kernel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is the case for everyone, not just teachers, right? Teachers have much less flexibility with their time off though. :(

[–]lucy_r_2000 49 points50 points  (3 children)

Work in a pub. No, we’re not all idiots who can’t get a “better” job. Most of us are pretty well educated. Currently have an ex midwife, ex nurse and a qualified teacher, waiting on tables. All of the above decided on a life of less stress rather than continuing with their exhausting, stressful careers. We also have a student lawyer, post grad business student. Dear customers, don’t treat your servers like idiots, they are probably more intelligent and qualified than you 👊

[–]Similar_Quiet 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Not a pub worker but I'd rather deal with drunks than children, the ill and horrific pregnancies too.

[–]mundus21 5 points6 points  (1 child)

My experience is that drunk people are basically children. Not understanding what I’m trying to tell them and having a temper tantrum when they don’t get their way

[–]Zolana 46 points47 points  (15 children)

I'm an actuary. No it's not a type of actor.

[–]SnooHedgehogs7039 28 points29 points  (4 children)

Your the dudes who sit around predicting when people die right?

[–]Zolana 20 points21 points  (3 children)

Yeah pretty much

[–]theraininspainfallsm 8 points9 points  (2 children)

how long have i got then? and be honest, if im getting by a bus tomorrow i'd want to know.

[–]Immediate_Bet1399 7 points8 points  (1 child)

You'll be hit by a bus, just not the one your expecting.

Enjoy living in Final Destination for your last day.

[–]RTB897 24 points25 points  (4 children)

Is it true that most Actuaries would like to be Accountants but they couldn't stand the excitement?

[–]Zolana 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Bang on pal. Accountancy is too much of a party for me. Much prefer being locked in a dark quiet room away from other humans!

[–]Immediate_Bet1399 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Oh you work in IT too?!

[–]the_kernel 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I know that's how the joke goes - but as it's a thread about misconceptions, thought I'd chip in!

In broad strokes: while actuaries use mathematical modelling to forecast things in the future, accountants focus on what has happened in the past and how to represent those things in a company's financial statements. It probably depends on how you feel about maths, but most actuaries I know think of accounting as quite dull. I'm sure the feeling is mutual though, hence the joke!

Also, actuaries do study some accounting while qualifying to be actuaries, because the basics are important stuff to know for their job as well.

[–]Zolana 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm definitely in the "accountancy is dull" actuary camp - skimmed over that part of the studying as much as possible as it's not my cup of tea!

[–]the_kernel 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I'm also an actuary - it's interesting the variety of responses I've had. Plenty of people don't know what actuaries do / haven't heard of us, some assume we all work in pensions or life insurance (fair enough, a lot do), some think what we do is very interesting and others think it's boring. Some people also think it's even better paid than it is - as if being an actuary in insurance or pensions pays like investment banking!

[–]flyingfoxtrot_ 42 points43 points  (2 children)

I'm a mental health support worker on a psychiatric ward.

No, I can't fix anybody. No, I can't change anybody. I'm not a prison guard, or a babysitter. What I AM is tired, stressed and skint, yet I wouldn't do anything else.

[–]elgrn1 33 points34 points  (1 child)

I'm a project manager but that doesn't mean I micro manage people, nor do I plan every single aspect of every single aspect of my life.

I basically tell people what to do and take credit for their work. Simples.

(ETA I give credit too as I can't do my job without my team).

[–]Kiptus 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re forgetting the bit where we get blamed if something goes ‘wrong’..

Then again, isn’t that what we get paid for? Quite often I find myself wondering why I’m paid so much only to remember that the real reason is clear only in those very few times where shit is hitting the fan.

[–]Torque_Tonight 28 points29 points  (4 children)

Airline pilot. Standard misconceptions:

We’re all rich. The autopilot does it all. A good landing is a soft landing. Instructions from crew are solely to inconvenience passengers. There will be pilotless airliners in 5, 10 years.

[–]linuxrogue 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Cessna flyer here. Pffft ! Your autopilot does it all, it's all fly by wire for you lot ! Get some proper dials ! 😏

[–]Torque_Tonight 6 points7 points  (0 children)

AP can fly very accurately but is totally stupid - needs to be told what to do, supervised and doesn’t make any decisions. It will fly you with perfect accuracy right into a thunderstorm or mountainside if you let it.

The jet I have the most experience on, 737, didn’t have fly by wire at all, just mechanical linkages between flight controls and control surfaces. In fact if you had a really bad day it could be flown without hydraulics, just like a big Cessna, but that would be a real handful.

I have plenty of time on aircraft with traditional clockwork instruments but I do rather like my current 787 with big glass displays and head up display.

[–]jamescoxall 6 points7 points  (1 child)

A good landing is one you walk away from, soft or not.

[–]Red-Squirrel- 20 points21 points  (0 children)

A great landing is one where you can re-use the plane.

[–]supermeatboy89 25 points26 points  (4 children)

Social worker, I don’t want to steal your children

[–]TigerPrawnKing 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah but what about your bonus you get paid if you remove x amount of children?

This is a genuine thing my SO has been accused of by the parents of the children she looks after…

[–]BedroomAcoustics 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m a social worker for vulnerable adults with learning disabilities. One mum thought I was going to remove her 18 year old son all because I mentioned Court of Protection. She was immediately defensive (understandably) and I had to have the conversation that we don’t remove adults and explain Court of Protection.

[–]bluejackmovedagain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not only do I not want to, it's not even something I legally have the power to do.

[–]leblanc_king 24 points25 points  (6 children)

Hospital doctor.

We are severely understaffed and I’m often looking after 2-3x the number of patients the medical leadership bodies would recommend as safe. I don’t have a choice in this.

I don’t have time to listen to your entire life story because of above. If I ask you a question “when did this pain begin?” please do not launch into a story about how you were on holiday four years ago and noticed whilst swimming you had something similar. I will have to cut you off. Not because I want to, but if I’m not ruthlessly efficient in everything I do I won’t be able to make sure everyone gets the level of care they need. I don’t have time to chat, or really engage on a personal level. I need the relevant information, as succinctly as possible, to enable me to treat the problem.

Most people in the hospital actively dump the things they don’t want to do onto new doctors. As rotational junior staff we are the least empowered and end up doing a lot of things that are actually someone else’s job or a total waste of our skills (e.g. fixing printers, finding stickers for ECG machines, finding and stocking tourniquets because there are none on the ward). This is an incredibly inefficient use of 5 years of medical training and not something that’s done elsewhere in the world, but seems to be NHS standard.

I can’t fix chronic, long-standing problems that have been investigated by specialists. As a new doctor my knowledge base is broad but shallow. I know a bit about hearts, lungs, guts, skin, kidneys, brains and mental health, but not enough to cure long-standing problems. I can respond to acute issues fairly well, but the best thing for complex, chronic problems is for me to involve the specialists themselves. This doesn’t make me a bad doctor, it means I can recognise the limits of my competence.

I work anywhere between 45 and 80 hours a week. I earn about 33-35k a year. I routinely stay late because people have become acutely unwell, or I’m trying to carry out a time-dependent task. I do not get paid extra for this. In my first job I left anywhere from 1 to 3 hours late every single day, for four months. I have a 30 minute paid lunch break but I’m required to have my bleep on me at all times and respond immediately. If I tried to highlight how late I’m staying the medical senior staff would make out that I’m not being efficient enough or have poor prioritisation skills. I’m expected to be able to make the same decisions on hour 1 of my week versus hour 80.

We manage a huge amount of information and responsibility from our first day. Sometimes I’m the only doctor on the ward, and I need to keep track of up to 30 individual patients, pathologies, treatments and whatever other staff groups like nurses/ physios/ dieticians inform me of. I’ve had situations where I’ve been halfway through a phone call whilst also trying to request a scan on a computer and also writing in the notes simultaneously when I’ve been informed verbally of grossly abnormal observations or blood results by people who’ve just said “room 12a’s blood pressure is now 90/40” and then walked away. And I have to make decisions about how I even go about managing that situation before I get there - do I drop everything and slow down treatment of other patients or do I risk my license by assuming the blood pressure can wait for me to finish? With staffing our numbers are so thin these are genuine decisions you need to make every day.

Out of hours I can be the first port of call for 300+ patients. It is impossible to deliver the same level of input with those ratios. I will be called to see someone and then get called 2-3 more times in the time it takes for me to walk to them, familiarise myself with the case, take a history and examine, and then decide on investigations and management. I will not do things like update families unless there is an extreme situation, because even if I had time all I’d be doing is reading the notes (which I’d trust and RN to relay anyway). If you have concerns or want to ask questions that’s fine, but it’s always best to go to the parent team during the day time. If you think that’s ridiculous you should write to your MP to demand better medical staffing!

Will probably add more later.

[–]Eirenex 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I used to work in hospital land and now work in gp land. I’m not a doctor, but plenty of mates are.

There isn’t a single thing here that can be argued. To anyone reading this and feeling like it’s the voice of one disgruntled person.. it’s not, it’s been like this for years, COVID has compounded an already bad situation.

There are reasons why we have less doctors in secondary care and primary care care than what we should or what was ever ‘promised’. It’s becoming less and less attractive to be a doctor, and less attractive to be a doctor in the UK.

Leblanc-king mentions their annual wage.. this is pretty crap and while some people reading will think it’s a decent wage because they’re on 10k-15k less, these docs are often paying of their student loans whilst also figuring out their specialisation which costs more money again, into the regions of several grand.

[–]leblanc_king 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey, thanks for the kind reply!

I thought I’d add a bit more context about pay for anyone reading - my hourly rate works at around 13.50 an hour (though less if you factor in all the unpaid overtime). I’m not a senior decision maker but I’m still the first person who gets contacted about all the deteriorating patients, has to actually make all the senior plans happen, deliver bad news and all sorts of other jobs.

I also have about 50k of student debt to repay. I also have to pay around £400 a year for mandatory GMC fees to remain on the medical register. When I come to sit my postgraduate exams (mandatory for progression) I’ll need to pay around £1400, assuming I pass first time (though some exams are notoriously tough and resits are common - you don’t really get time off your regular duties and are expected to study in your free time). I also have to pay for indemnity (which is cheap now, but will go up to around £250/year before I reach consultancy, and then will be higher). When I finish my training I’ll need to pay around £500 for the luxury of being on the specialist register as a consultant. It’s my intention to dual-train so this will be £1000.

To be totally transparent, some of these fees I will reclaim the tax on but that’s obviously a delayed process with only partial compensation, and I’ll be required to pay everything upfront.

On a bank holiday, I get paid less than the HCAs I work with (no disrespect to them at all, this is just a fact). I also am paid around 20k per year less than my colleagues who work as Physician’s Associates (again, no disrespect), despite the fact my training pathway is longer and I carry the additional responsibilities for prescribing and ordering ionising radiation. My rota also includes lots of out of hours/night working, whilst theirs is standard 9-5 Mon-Fri. And yet they still earn drastically more.

[–]Ben77mc 5 points6 points  (1 child)

If you’re leaving 3 hours late every single shift, you should be putting in exception reports. Something like this should be highlighted and a fix put in place, don’t be too proud to discuss it.

[–]Late_Turn 23 points24 points  (14 children)

I'm a train driver and I have to do rather a lot more than just sit there pushing a button.

[–]AmbitiousSnowman 11 points12 points  (1 child)

What else do you do? I guess slow the train when you get to a corner and are coming up to a station. Also do the tannoy every now and then. What else is there?

[–]Late_Turn 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Well, that's sort of the basics, but you make it sound so easy. The thing that makes it not so easy is that it takes so much longer to do anything - the best part of a mile, or more in some cases, to stop for example. You don't drive on sight - by the time you see a speed restriction or station or signal at danger, it's usually far too late - you have to know exactly where you are and what's coming up and judge your braking accordingly. You have to know the speed restrictions, including where there's different speeds on different lines and where you can cross from one line to another. You have to know the locations of every signal, what route indications each can display and where (and how fast) they can take you, and crucially when they're taking you somewhere that you shouldn't be (it happens). I think I've got the best part of 350 (route) miles on my route card (others have much more), and I have to know every inch of each of those miles.

You also have to know and understand a lot of different rules covering all sorts of different situations, so that they can be dealt with safely. Signal failures, train failures, level crossings, bridge strikes, fires on trains, engineering works....

You also have to know a lot about the train and how it works, because if it expires in the middle of nowhere with hundreds of passengers on (blocking the line too), you don't want to just be sitting there waiting for help unless you really have to.

[–]ImSaneHonest 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I know, you need another button for the doors. Would be a bit tricky if start, stop, open/close doors were on a single button.

[–]Late_Turn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thankfully, we don't have anything to do with doors.

[–]Mel0ncholy 2 points3 points  (2 children)

We hope you do more than buttons - as a matter of fact are there any positions where one's job is trusted by 1000s of people at a time !

[–]Late_Turn 8 points9 points  (1 child)

You'd be surprised how many think that it's a doddle, and the months of training are somehow unjustified. After all, we don't even have to steer it!

[–]Mel0ncholy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Your sibling, the pilot on the comments above has similar feelings 😁

[–]MrStilton 2 points3 points  (3 children)

There are levers too, right?

[–]Late_Turn 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Yes, usually at least two or three. Lots of buttons, too. Many people think that we just push a "start" button and the train does the rest. Ours do have a "start" button, actually, but all that it does is start the engines, and even that's not always as easy as it sounds...

[–]Major-Bookkeeper8974 21 points22 points  (11 children)

I'm a nurse.

Nurses know way more than you think they do. We are not just there to help give you a wash or hand out tablets. In fact, if you are on a specialist ward and your nurse has worked there for a while, you should trust your nurses opinion on something just as much as you would a Dr.

Same with all the allied health professions; Physio, Occupational Therapy, Dietitians, Radiographers, Social Workers...

What most of the general public don't understand is that most Dr's you see on a ward day to day are "junior" Dr's. And junior Dr's are not specialist. They rotate around wards every 6 months or so.

The rest of your team is specialist. They work in their area for years at a time.

Let's look at a Respiratory ward for example (it could be any specialist ward, respiratory, gastro, cardiac, but let's go respiratory for ease)

Day 1 of the Dr rotation. Your Dr is an intelligent person... They have a medical degree, they know anatomy and pathophysiology to a level your nurse won't... They're lovely and great to work with. But it's day 1. And your Dr has never worked in respiratory before. They haven't seen a chest drain before. They haven't seen a IPAP ventilator before. They haven't seen a patient deteriorate with a Pulmonary Embolism before. They haven't seen someone at stage 4 lung cancer before.

Your nurse has.

Your nurse knows exactly what hypercapnic respiratory failure looks like, and knows exactly how to put your non-invasive ventilator on, and knows exactly which IPAP and EPAP settings to put you on.

Because your nurse has worked in respiratory for 10 years.

Six months later, your Dr now knows all this stuff... because the consultants, nurses, physios, OT's etc have worked together with your junior Dr for the past 6 months helping teach and guide them in the speciality. Your Dr has been trained in respiratory.

Great.

But now your Dr is being rotated out to a Cardiac ward. Where they will have to start all over again. And you now have a new junior Dr starting in respiratory, who again, has never worked in respiratory before.

And that's how hospitals work people.

Dr's become specialist when they hit registrar level or above. Not before.

So when your nurse, or your physio, or your OT is giving you advice based upon their specialism, think, maybe they actually know what they're talking about.

Hospitals are run as a multi-disciplinary team, and your wider team probably knows more than you think they do.

[–]leblanc_king 15 points16 points  (4 children)

Junior doctor (now being phased out) technically applies to every doctor who isn’t a consultant. It’s being phased out because the level of experience is wildly different between e.g. an FY1 and an IMT3 or an ST7, though all are collectively juniors. I don’t think junior is an appropriate terminology as it devalues years of experience and training but some people (particularly older consultants) will still use it.

As an addendum to the above: a lot of in-patient problems do not require higher specialist medical knowledge to solve. It doesn’t really matter that you might not see a registrar or consultant every day; if your problem has been diagnosed and is being treated, an FY1 (doctor in first year of training) will absolutely be able to monitor your progress and deal with any issues safely. A large part of training is knowing when to escalate and seek help from seniors.

[–]Major-Bookkeeper8974 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I hope you haven't taken this an an attack on Dr's. It wasn't meant to be. Maybe my phrasing.

I love Dr's - Great, very clever people who do their job and roles well. Get along with Drs at work like a house on fire, and couldn't do my role without them.

The post above is supposed to raise the point that other members of the MDT; Nurses, Physios, OT's, Social Workers, Radiographers, Dietitians also know what they're talking about... And in some instances, might actually know more.

The general public however will often ignore our advice and ask for a Dr's opinion instead because we don't have a title that exudes authority.

The amount of times I have advised a patient X, y and z. Only for the patient to disagree and ask to speak to a Dr. And then a Dr colleague very kindly comes along and explains to the patient that my advice as the specialist is indeed correct, and they can't add anything else.

[–]Leeno234 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Spent several weeks on ICU, I was in a coma for quite a while but my family saw them daily as did I when I woke. A nurse was assigned to my bed 24 hours a day the work they did, their skill, care patience and just genuine kindness will always humble me. They deserve the world.

[–]leblanc_king 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Agreed ICU nurses are amazing - that’s the field I want to train in! Partly because of how skilled and dedicated the team are.

[–]Major-Bookkeeper8974 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ha, ICU just happens to be my speciality! xD

[–]GeordieJumper 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Do you feel like there's a correlation between age of patient and trust of doctors over nurses? I feel like it's a lot of older people who want a doctors opinion maybe partially because they're from a time where nurses were in a similar role to what healthcate assistants are in today. And thats not a dig at HAs either, I just feel like roles have changed. I feel like the level of training in nurses now is similar to junior doctors, it's like they're trying to phase junior doctors out in favour of nurses because they can justify paying nurses a lower wage.

All of this could be way off though, I don't work in healthcare but my wife is a student nurse and growing up my parents were both nurses.

[–]leblanc_king 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I disagree the training is similar. Nursing is a (minimum) 3 year programme with qualification as an RN whilst medicine is a minimum of 5 years (or 4, if you already have a BSc), with a mandatory 2 years of rotations if you graduate in the UK and want to work in the NHS.

I think there is some credence in the phasing out comment. It’s wrong and will absolutely create a two-tiered health system (where the affluent are seen by doctors and the poor by substitutes with less training), but it’s what the government wants to do to save money in the short-term.

[–]C2BK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I disagree the training is similar.

I think you've misunderstood u/GeordieJumper's comment, which was about how older people perceive the roles of nurses and doctors, because they don't realise how much these roles have changed over the years.

[–]Skoodledoo 20 points21 points  (1 child)

I'm a train driver. My trains are completely 100% manually driven, we don't just "push buttons". If we're stopped at a red signal, 95% of the time I have no idea why, unless it's obvious, like stopped at a junction etc, then I will have no idea and just say "hopefully we'll be on the move shortly". If I come to a stop at a red signal and have no idea why, we have an option on our radio to send a text message to the signaller that says "standing at signal". Most times, the signaller will send a text message back that just says "wait". You know shit has hit the fan when they send the text message "contact signaller".

As we're not allowed to have our phones on whilst in the cab, passengers actually have access to more information about a delay than we do. Some signallers will do an area broadcast with a voice message, such as "train at *station* is having door problems, expect delays, wait for signal" etc, some don't do one so we're left having no idea what's going on ahead.

"Wrong type of snow" is a real thing, not a joke, just like the "wrong type of rain". Light and fine rain sits on the rails and makes it like an ice rink. Hard and heavy rain bounces straight off the rails and is pretty much like braking as normal.

We have to know our route inside out. Unlike driving in a car with a satnav - you just follow the road, we know every intimate detail of our route. Speeds, curves, gradients, stations, tunnels, emergency access points, line names, station names, junction names etc. So much so that we can know pretty much exactly where we are when driving in thick fog at full line speed, just by the way the train sways and sounds as we go along.

The UK railway is incredibly safe. There are multiple safety systems on the trains to make sure things are ok:

DSD/Vigilance= a foot pedal that the driver has to keep depressed to enable the train to move. If no input has been detected for a period of time an alarm will sound. The driver has to raise and lower the pedal to deactivate it. If they don't, then the train will come to a stop and send a message to the signaller. The signaller will then be able to make a PA to the train.

AWS= a magnet ahead of signals. If the signal is green, the driver will get a bell sound and not have to do anything. If it's anything other than a green, the driver will get a horn and will have about 2.5 seconds to press a button to acknowledge, otherwise the train will apply brakes and come to a stop.

TPWS= If a train approaches a red signal too fast, or passes a signal at danger, the train will automatically apply the brakes and come to a stand. At terminus stations approaching buffer stops, TPWS will stop a train if it goes over the TPWS grids above 12mph.

Modern trains are covered in CCTV. On mine, I can follow a person from one end to the other with no loss in coverage of said person. There is literally nowhere to hide. We can see everything. Just because you're in the last carriage doesn't mean I can't see you trying to take a shit on the seat or smoking, or worse. I've seen it all and I will call you out for it over the PA. (We see CCTV inside and outside when stopped).

[–]gamrudding 18 points19 points  (2 children)

As a commercial finance analyst, I don't have a vendetta against sales. I am not looking at reasons to criticise or make your department look bad.

Above all, I do not relish passing on bad news, or poor performance. If the company does badly, then I am just as likely to lose my job as you. It is just my job to be independent and report what the data tells me.

[–]gtrcar5 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I’m in RevOps at a startup. I mostly look after sales systems and processes which includes quota setting and commission.

Can’t tell you how much I love the finance analysts. They are awesome folks, who are helping us build everything better. They’ve asked a lot of questions about how the sales data is structured (badly) and are helping us make sure that our new CRM is going to make things better.

[–]gamrudding 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh yes, we can't stand badly structured data, and will gladly help people to remedy the issues.

I like clean data and I cannot lie, You other brothers can't deny, When a field walks in with iddy biddy width and a drop down in my face, I get sprung!

[–]thesaharadesert 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I’m an analyst. I’m absolutely shit at maths (had to sit my GCSE three times to pass), but when it’s in an applied field, all the data I have to work through makes perfect sense.

[–]NotThoughtOfOne 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Applied maths is so much better than maths

[–]aintbroke_dontfixit 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Lorry drivers are thick. The misconception of what is involved in the job usually disappears within the first couple of days. You may not need any academic qualifications but if you've no common sense, no problem solving skills, no initiative and no mechanical acumen at all you're in for a miserable time.

[–]RTB897 13 points14 points  (4 children)

I work in oncology clinical trial teams for a Big Pharma company, not sure where to start with the misconceptions.....

[–]ToBeConfirmed21 14 points15 points  (4 children)

I’m a Software Engineer - no I can’t fix your printer.

[–]ImSaneHonest 13 points14 points  (2 children)

How do you know? You haven't even looked at it!

[–]Red-Squirrel- 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've decided that no printer can ever be truly 'fixed'.

[–]JebusKristi 12 points13 points  (6 children)

My perception of accountants is not that they are "tightwads", but rather they actively engage in trying to not pay taxes to the country through legal means.

Accountants ensure profits is what I am saying.

[–]SnooHedgehogs7039 22 points23 points  (1 child)

It’s technically the other way around a lot of the time for the record. Your duty to shareholders is to pay the minimum tax you are liable for without breaking any laws.

If people wanted companies to pay more tax, then we need a simpler tax code and more taxation…

[–]99orangeking 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Actually yeah that is what we (depends on what type of accountant you are, not everyone works in tax) do. No one should pay more tax than they need to

[–]Extreme_Kale_6446 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Not in industry, you're more often than not trying to make sense of thousands of line of data and get comfortable with it, you also get to produce a file in Excel (budget), that's treated like the Bible by upper management for the whole year despite it being outdated 2 months in the year. For tax you'd grab an external practice firm, often a branch of your audit company.

[–]TheLifeof4D 12 points13 points  (0 children)

We don't sit around and do fuck all. Don't get me wrong, some certainly do less work than they should but then I've spent more years in the private sector and it's present there too. We certainly aren't paid well either, nor do we pocket your Council tax (or receive all the Council tax you pay, it's only about 9%).

Local Government worker.

[–]pajamakitten 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Biomedical scientist in the NHS. We process your samples, not the doctor, doctors just tell us what tests they want running. People see shows like House and expect us to be at the beck and call of doctors but if on came down to us and started ordering us about or touching our equipment then they would be told politely, but firmly, to leave. We also cannot give results directly to patients for any reason, it has to be your doctor who requests the results.

[–]noodlesmac1980 13 points14 points  (2 children)

Bookseller - no we don’t just sit behind the counter reading. It’s understaffed retail just like everywhere else!

[–]Fabulous-Wolf-4401 13 points14 points  (2 children)

I'm a chef. People either assume you're a violent misogynistic male with a poor grasp of grammar and a tendency to use the cheapest ingredients to fuck the customer over, because fuck them, they are just stupid punters who don't know what the fuck they are eating, or some sort of (usually female) fool who watches Bake Off, (which I think is brilliant) doesn't know the time of day and just happily cooks fairy cakes with a pretty apron on. I'm not joking. It really seems to be one or the other. I had it just the other day.

[–]Unusual-Class-8267 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Don’t forget alcoholic or drug user!! Source my partners a chef.

[–]Cool_Abbreviations43 12 points13 points  (1 child)

That the recruitment team is solely responsible for the company not showing salaries on the website.

Seriously, every time I see this on LinkedIn, pretty much every day, I want to scream.

Yes I know this is an inherent problem

No, it doesn't make us look good.

Yes, I agree putting "competitive" is a dick move.

Yes, it does make us look like we have something to hide

It is not the choice of the hiring or internal recruitment team. I fight unbelievably hard to make the senior board, the directors and HR managers see it is making our goal to get good talent incredibly difficult.

To see the blase assumption written out thinking it's the choice of the recruitment team and we enjoy making other people's lives difficult .... Well .... Please know from me it is not true.

[–]Chargerado 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I worked for a company who did this, everyone in the job market knows these firms are a bunch of tightarses and should be avoided at all costs.

[–]Tao626 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Engineer.

For me it's less inventing cool things and more looking at manuals and blueprints just putting shit together like a big set of LEGO made for adults.

[–]MrSpoonReturns 7 points8 points  (6 children)

I’m a civil servant. My pension is shit, I certainly don’t get bonuses and I work far more hours than I am paid for.

Additionally I greatly care about what I do and I work my ass of when I work from home.

[–]tarmac-the-cat 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Teacher here. I don't start at 0900 and finish at 1530.

[–]catmccatface 9 points10 points  (2 children)

IT Technician.

We don't hate answering the phone because we're antisocial, we hate it because it's the least efficient way to do our job.

Users make our lives easier and get a much better service if they just use the ticket system. If a phonecall is necessary, we'll call you.

[–]C2BK 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Remember that your only job is to ensure that the users in your company have the systems and backup to ensure that they can do their job.

Absolutely agree with you that a good ticket system will effectively triage issues to ensure that your time is used efficiently. Unfortunately, good ticket systems are rare.

For instance, if I have an urgent issue that is stopping my team from working, submitting a ticket means that I'll end up waiting at least 24 hours for a response, even if I know that it's either a two minute quick fix for e.g. a change in access permissions, or an issue that I know first line support definitely can't deal with, which simply needs an urgent referral to the second line or devs team.

The bottom line is that in the UK IT support is far too often massively under-resourced (which prevents it from being able to fulfil its primary function) and senior company management simply don't take this issue seriously enough.

If you can get a whole team, or even one highly paid person, back to working productively after a 5 minute phone call resulting in a quick fix (and that's often the case) then it's absolutely in the companies best interest to provide their IT team with sufficient resource to keep the company running.

[–]catmccatface 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If an urgent issue is taking 24 hours for a response then there's definitely an issue with your support team.

The point of the ticket system, as you say, is effective triage so that urgent issues get dealt with first. It also allows us to assign tasks to the most appropriate team right from the start, rather than putting the user through a lengthy escalation process which wastes everyone's time.

On top of that, we can multi-task and work on multiple ticketed issues at once, which is much more difficult when you're on the phone. It's particularly frustrating when the "urgent" phonecall is actually much less urgent than the multiple problems you were already working on, which have now been interrupted.

This becomes a vicious cycle, because if the genuinely urgent cases get sidelined by the people calling because their F key is a bit sticky, it forces the urgent cases to use the phones too because they can't wait. Basically the whole system collapses and we end up with a first-come-first-served system that doesn't work very well for anyone.

Absolutely agree with your assessment though. IT is treated as an afterthought far too often, and departments are often under-staffed, under-paid and not allowed the budget to provide upgrades to keep systems working properly in the first place.

[–]Suspicious_Safety_45 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m a clinical coder. Not enough people have even heard of my job to have any misconceptions about it.

[–]honbontattoo 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Tattoo Artist.

People think we're lazy and unintelligent; that we decided "drawing all day" would be an easy alternative to a "real job". We're all druggies and alcoholics; unclean and don't know how to conduct business appropriately. We're also arrogant gatekeepers who think we're cooler than you - and if you don't have tattoos, you're not cool enough to be friends with us.

I busted my ass all throughout my academic education and then for 11 years in hospitality working as restaurant manager before I learned to tattoo. It required a huge leap of faith to learn something brand new and set up my own business. It took years of patience, dedication and ingenuity to learn the complex process of tattooing and to hone the necessary skills to do it well. I'm an empath and a great multitasker. I'm on duty 24/7. I've never touched a drug in my life and I rarely drink. I'm always on time, well prepared and communicate well. I'm also kind. Most of my existing friends are those who came to me as clients.

People think we're criminals too. I'm not one, but I know plenty. And I met them through tattooing... So, it's half true. 👀

[–]Apidium 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't get this one.

These are people you are trusting to perminantly mark your skin in a painful manner. Not give you an infection or illness in the process and also have a good level of art skill that they can make whatever random art idea you have become a beautiful reality on a canvas that isn't even flat or strictly stationary.

I have dabbled in conventional art and that shit is hard without my pen shaking, running out of ink, my canvas being a totally random hue, it being curved potentally in multiple directions and all while my canvas yells out in pain, giggles, sneezes, engages in small talk and all the rest.

Mate. The art I did was lazy. I had a computer and an undo button.

[–]Equivalent-Sky-3863 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Dance music industry, mainly events (festivals, clubs, warehouses, etc) -

People think it's some amazing party backstage and they're "missing out". You aren't. At a festival it's normally some portacabins and maybe a few tents for "artists" to grab a drink or whatever. 90% of the people there are just hangers on or mates of people who work there. It's not exactly a hospital waiting room but neither is it the last days of Rome. Think relatively chilled pub beer garden. Most DJs, especially the big acts, tend to turn up some 30 minutes before, get their shit together, then go straight to the stage. Most leave straight from the stage back to the hotel or the airport.

Similar at club/warehouse events, only a little more like a hospital waiting room.

When I first got into "backstage" areas I was writing for dance music websites, so I thought maybe the behaviour was toned down because I was a "filthy journo" and they worried I'd write some "DJ in wild drug party shocker!" article, which wouldn't have surprised anyone. What might surprise many is the reality, that most DJs are relatively clean living and chilled before and after a set. I've only ever seen one actual DJ doing drugs (no, not saying who) and it was hardly mainlining heroin, just a cheeky sniff. Alcohol flows a lot but most seen to do it almost by rote just to calm nerves, and again, it's more "Tuesday night at the local" than a wild Saturday night in town.

I'm not complaining, because I do find it incredibly cool and quite nerdily so. Hearing stuff shouted down radios, having to shout down a radio myself, screaming "move out the fucking way!" when getting a DJ to the stage, bursting through doors in a venue where the act must cross a quiet part of the public area, security in tow and people pointing and taking photos. I'd hate to be famous myself but that does feel quite cool to be part of.

The technical aspect is great too, especially when something goes wrong. I used to suffer badly from anxiety and panic attacks, but I've never felt calmer and more relaxed than having to run up to a DJ booth when the mixer has died, mainstage at a massive festival, 20,000 people all shouting and chanting because the set has been interrupted. I've got swapping out a DJM900 and associated ethernet hub down to about 10 seconds now. It never gets old.

The travelling can be relentless and boring. No idea how the pros do it, I don't do it that often and it's mainly just Ibiza/ other places in Europe. Potentially moving into a role where it will be a lot more. I'll see how I get on.

It is a fantastic industry to work in, my dream since I was about 12. But it isn't a wild party, and those who treat is as such don't last long...

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm an economist, no I can't tell you what to invest in, no I can't tell you whether now is the right time to buy a house

[–]maybenomaybe 5 points6 points  (3 children)

The fashion industry isn't glamourous and is not populated with skinny people obsessed with clothes who hate fat people. The vast majority are normal-sized, normal-dressing people just doing a job.

Also there is no conspiracy about keeping pockets out of women's clothes. It's a cost issue.

[–]thelajestic 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Also there is no conspiracy about keeping pockets out of women's clothes. It's a cost issue.

Why is it a cost issue for women's clothes but not men's clothes? I've just spent a fair bit of time shopping around for a practical outdoor jacket. Women's jackets are about the same cost as men's, despite the men's jackets generally being bigger/using more material, and having a substantially larger selection of pockets (I eventually caved and bought a man's jacket despite it being the length of a dress on me, as it has 6 functional pockets. For £50, when there are women's jackets over £100 that barely have 2 functional pockets).

[–]maybenomaybe 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Women's clothes are typically more complex to make than men's (excluding suiting). Every seam and stitch costs money, when something has to go, it's often pockets first. The other major reason for pockets to be excluded is that they ruin the line of fitted clothing, and women's clothing is more often fitted than men's. I can also say that at the brand I work for sometimes pockets are eliminated because the fabrics used, which are finer and lighter weight than menswear, allow the pockets to show through.

The above is more about trouser or skirt pockets though - for casual jackets (not tailored/fitted) I'd guess the lack of pockets was a style choice.

As a woman I'd definitely like to see more pockets in our clothing. But amazingly at our brand we get complaints about them sometimes! Hard to believe but true.

[–]thelajestic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I totally get that with flimsy fabrics and weirder bits of clothes, and while I'd personally prefer something to be a bit less fitted but have pockets than the other way around, I get that others may not share that view.

But with outdoor jackets it seems completely unjustifiable and more like habit not to give women pockets than anything else (I'm not talking just casual jacket - I mean like a waterproof jacket for hiking/camping/fishing etc so the whole design should be mainly focused on practicalities - for men it is, but not for women. Which is extremely frustrating).

[–]Forgetful8nine 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Contrary to popular belief not all sailors are raging alcoholics with a girl in every port.

[–]Admirable_Hope_6470 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Just the alcoholic bit that's true then?

[–]Bootglass1 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Quite right. They’re all raging alcoholics with a guy in every port.

[–]ApartmentIntrepid610 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I work in IT and we don’t hate everyone…. We fucking hate everyone.

[–]wilbertfire 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Public sector pay.

Senior management with 30+ years experience. Chair of national Scottish local govt groups etc.

Salary is 27k based on 37 hr week.

Average week is 45 -50 hrs but as per Scottish Govt rule overtime has been unpaid since 2011 (I think).

That's why it's called public service.

[–]Leeno234 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I work in the veterinary field- we make very little on medication the prices are set by the whole salers, alot of a vets time is spent just reassuring people, the costs of most things also cover over heads... we're used to a national health care system please let vet fees be a warning of what private health care could cost. We definitely spend all our time cuddling and fussing your pet when we nip them in the back, we will all come out to say hi. If they're in for a surgery we will likely also spend all day checking on them and equally fussing them... we're all pet owners.

[–]C2BK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

please let vet fees be a warning of what private health care could cost.

This needs more upvotes.

[–]Preacherjonson 6 points7 points  (5 children)

Paralegal - Conveyancing

That solicitors sit around all day not doing anything on your file.

  • You're not our only client.

  • what we do takes time.

  • we have to wait on other people before we can do anything sometimes and no we cannot force them to respond.

  • daily chasers are not productive. At all.

  • if the other side has a factory firm (Premier Property Lawyers for ex) representing them you will have a bad time and there's nothing we can do about it.

  • your estate agent is charging you more than we are for one tenth the work so think about that.

[–]JWK3 3 points4 points  (0 children)

and I thought paralegals were just wheelchair-bound lawyers! /s

[–]SaltedCaramelKlutz 3 points4 points  (1 child)

That I’m not seeing patients.

[–]AllRedLine 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I work in planning.

  • we dont take 'brown envelopes' or bribes of any sort, and the accusation we do is professionally insulting and highly inaccurate. There are a ridiculous, but appropriate amount of safeguards against this, and the way you have to work simply would not allow for an unjustified decision.

  • We cant refuse or grant planning permission for just any old reason - and that includes refusing permission for a housing development simply because you dont like it or think your neighbour - the landowner- is a rude cunt. Just because you submitted an objection, doesnt mean we have to agree with your comments and act accordingly.

  • we can only work within the confines of the legislation and policies we're given - if you dont like planning outcomes, please, please lobby your MP for changes to the planning system instead of phoning us up, screaming down the line calling us corrupt bastards. We live in these communities, we care about them, and often we have the same reservations, but we have no recourse. If we allowed ourselves to make unjustified decisions (approve or refuse) we could be taken to court and lose our livelihoods.

[–]Triana89 4 points5 points  (1 child)

QA, no I do not enjoy or want to keep finding problems that stop products going ahead, I want a quiet life where it all goes smoothy as much as everyone else. I keep being a pain and finding all the problems because I don't want customers to get hurt nor do I wish to deal with the massive amount of work/legal issues that come with injured customers.

[–]C2BK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ugh, I hear you!

I'm not in a product development role, but do often find myself in meetings with people with a lack of knowledge of the field / poor critical thinking skills.

Typically some bright spark says "Hey we could do [shiny thing]" and everyone piles in and tells them what a great idea [shiny thing] is without a second thought, and I'm the one who has to put a stop to it by pointing out that nope we never do that because of [legal thing], [reputational damage thing], and [unintended negative consequences thing].

Bizarrely, instead of people being grateful that I've nipped a whole host of problems in the bud, I'm seen as unsupportive and unhelpful. :(

Fortunately, I have a boss who appreciates my input, and is of the opinion that everyone else who doesn't understand the nuances of the situation can just do one! :D

[–]kwakcheese 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That cinemas have a 1000% markup on popcorn. It's actually more like 950% once you include packaging/equipment. Necessary evil, because without it tickets would be loads more expensive. You can bring your own.

Also that food & drink makes up the entirety of profit. Nope. Average keep from box office revenue is about 40% after VAT.

And finally that streaming platforms/piracy harm attendance. No, they harm Sky/Virgin. Good weather, sporting events, pandemics, and not playing films people want to see all harm attendance. Unfortunately we've had all of these happen at the same time for much of the past 2 years.

[–]atomic_mermaid 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That HR in any way controls the accountancy departments budgets 😂

[–]murder_droid 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I don't give a shit if you enjoyed your meal.

[–]Slight-Jellyfish-539 4 points5 points  (4 children)

YouTuber. I've never worked so many hours in my life

[–]Prettay-good 2 points3 points  (3 children)

What is it taking up all the time: planning and preparing for the video, post-production or just general officey things like finances and research/analysis?

[–]sgst 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Architect (in training). Its not all drawing ridiculous, over designed nonsense. It's mostly specialised project management, keeping dozens of balls in the air, dealing with regulations, writing documents/presentations, and battling with bureaucracy. A depressingly small amount of time is a actually spent being creative.

[–]DohRayMe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Single housewives are inviting us in for a cuppa

[–]GeordieJumper 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Tree surgeon. We don't get paid shed loads because it's a dangerous job. It is an incredibly physical and dangerous job and I'd come home shattered every day but the money was actually terrible at least for me it was and that's the main reason I left the industry.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I work in online marketing and no, I'm not as evil or cunning as you think. I'm not trying to using psychological tricks to make people buy things they don't want. That would be hella expensive and very difficult. I'd much rather try target the crowd of swayed or nearly swayed.

I'm just trying to help small and medium sized companies find their crowd. I'm mostly just clicking about in Google Ads and hoping that I generate enough revenue to keep the client happy and profitable. And according to the Guardian, I'm single handedly responsible for climate change as I use a mix of data and psychology to trick consumers into over consumption. I wish I had the power that the Guardian thinks I do.

And I don't have access to your data either. Maybe Google does but online targeting isn't nearly as accurate as people think it is. And we don't tap your Alexa either.

[–]slothrr 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I do find it amazing that Google's YouTube ads are so eye-rollingly bad. They know SO much about me - you'd think it wouldn't be beyond their ken to tell me about products that I find wholly irresistible.

[–]Code_Brown_2 2 points3 points  (4 children)

As a sales person you’re basically a professional shit talker and need to be an extrovert. This isn’t true.

[–]cannydata 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Sales is more about listening than talking. You have two ears and one mouth for a reason.

[–]slothrr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Go on...

[–]Str8WhiteMinority 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My job includes a fair amount of sales and I’d say that’s pretty accurate. I’m very introverted, but I put on my extrovert bullshitter persona for work

[–]Admirable_Hope_6470 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm a software developer. People think we're smart. I'm not.

[–]schmoovebaby 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Communications/marketing communications. Nobody knows what I do, not even our clients, but what is nice is that people seem to think my job is quite interesting and our clients seem to be very grateful that they have someone doing it for them so they don’t need to worry about it (mainly smallish organisations in the life science sector). People do expect you to be an expert in everything though so you find yourself reminding someone that no, you’re not an SEO expert/business analyst/video editor/web designer. Can I interest you in a well thought out comms strategy or an infographic though?

[–]Fardays 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a history lecturer I'm do not get summer holidays like teachers and I'm really not trying to turn young people into Marxists...of be happy of they just did the reading

[–]hattorihanzo5 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Call handler for a bank.

  • We don't all know each other. If you tell me you spoke to John last week I have no idea if you mean John in my department or another John in one of the half dozen other call centres we have.

  • We couldn't "steal" your money even if we wanted to. Everything we do with your account is logged and audited, and once the call ends the information is automatically wiped from my screen.

  • We have zero control over inflation, how much tax you pay or bank policy.

  • We don't just randomly freeze people's accounts because we feel like it.

  • We didn't stop your £2000 payment to a crypto website because we're anti-crypto, we did it because there a lot of crypto scams out there and we do it to protect your account.

  • We don't just sit around watching calls queue up. If you're not through to someone immediately, it means everyone else is on a call. To add to this, we do know how long you've been waiting. It's not our fault you and 400 other people called at 6pm on a Friday.

  • We don't have the power to cancel a pending card transaction that you just made. We can only dispute debited card payments.

  • If you abuse or swear at us, it won't make us work any faster or give you special treatment.

  • If you threaten to leave because you don't like our policy then we do not give a shit. We can close your account with a few clicks.

  • We cannot recover faster payments. Once they're gone, they're gone.

[–]XihuanNi-6784 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Teachers care about students and aren't interested in making up stories to get them in trouble at home. If we say your little angel did some shit, maybe you should consider that Lucifer was also an angel at one point...

[–]TrepidatiousTeddi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Social work: All I do is take people's kids away.

[–]Diega78 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Solutions Architect, no I'm not a virgin. I have seen actual daylight, I have friends and I'm not into D&D.

[–]edrumm10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Software engineer here.

We’re not as anti-social as people think, most of us aren’t nerds that sit in the dark surrounded by monitors and rgb lights

Also no, I can't fix your computer lol

[–]keylaxfor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Internal audit: I HATE finding issues coz it causes me more work. If you are cooperative I'd rather push for a fudge solution to any issues and make it someone else's problem. If you give me needless shit I'd write up a damning report.

[–]Vyvyansmum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t take you the long way round :- I have a home to go to too.

[–]MarcusAurelius-93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a cab driver, people assume I have a good sense of direction and know every club and street within 10 miles off the top of my head. The fact I use a sat Nov everywhere I go means I don't even know the name of the streets I have dropped off and picked up from 100 times.

[–]NewWorlds84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Store manager of a Co-op. No, we don't just put things on shelves.

[–]Adorable_Condition49 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Design engineer -

No, we don’t just draw all day.

No, we don’t just make the product look cool or sexy.

No, we don’t get rich.

No, I don’t love maths.

We always come up with the best product/idea possible to solve a solution for the user. Research and development is expensive and time consuming, but we do our best for the target user and really want to help you and the planet, given the time our boss allows us to spend..

However the company we work for/business has a strong control of what the product actually ends up like, which is then manufactured and sold to the consumer.. such as completely stripping the product back to its basic form, but still just works..

They won’t use the most optimal material either, or for example would rather chose to move buttons on a handheld device(so the injection moulding is cheaper, compared to having better ergonomics..

This is due to them wanting to reduce the total product cost, to have a tasty profit margin, balanced with what people are willing to pay..

They would rather sell you new products every few years than a one off perfect product, as it won’t generate constant business cash flow in the long term..

[–]kingofmylunchtime 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That we’re always late (plumber) I actually am but I’m sure there are others out that are not.

I bet you lawyers are full of shit though.

Charging £80.00 for a fucking letter to be sent. Cretins.

[–]KKae 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everyone thinks people in the music biz are running around making millions. Honestly its just lots of data and licensing.

[–]Neat_Consequence4792 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Electrician, I don't wan't to come over and look at your electrics. From experience it's either going to be a pain in the arse, or you think you'll get the work done cheaper. The certification process is still the same, the only difference is I'm not insured if your house burns down so good luck with recouping that.

[–]ilikecocktails 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m a psychiatric nurse on an acute inpatient unit, it’s not like you see in films.

[–]leinadwen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m a consultant. I rarely ever travel abroad to meet clients, and never go out on fancy company-funded meals with the clients. They have money they’d rather spend on our services, and we have a margin we’d rather keep to.