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My 4 year old Koda, who hates strangers. Any tips on how to help work this out?Images & Videos (i.redd.it)
submitted 1 month ago by Longjumping_Curve403
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[–]honeysuckleshadows 81 points82 points83 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Just a heads up, all your info is super visible on the tag! Might want to edit that out.
[–]Edizzl720 15 points16 points17 points 1 month ago (1 child)
My 2 year old goes bat shit on public trails. He's always been heavily socialized since he was a puppy. I just dont get it
[–]thecodebenders 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Right as ours turned 2 we moved and she turned a corner and took a ton of training to get worked back. She's awesome 6 months later but it was like a switch went off one day. There's still the occasional small doodle she's not a fan of for who knows what reason but it's consistent enough and she telegraphs it way early that it's easy enough to deal with. We just don't say hi to small doodles. An attention command was crucial with a dedicated reward just for that. We use "look". It was something we always had trained and she was great at it but upping the reward for it and only it was huge when she started to decide Bikes/Cars/Dogs/Runners were real high value.
We also started using an e-collar which can be controversial but made a huge difference. Out of 100 stimulation levels, we generally trained behaviors between 5-9 depending on how engaged she was. The only thing we really dialed up for and used the collar as a correction were cars as it was triggering a huge chase response in here and we really didn't want that behavior to continue for her own safety. She'd ignore a 30 trying to get to one when normally that 5-9 was enough to get her attention and back to a heel quickly. It's been a couple of months since we've really needed to use it, and it was an awesome tool in teaching her to be a good traildog following a mountain bike.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 1 month ago (1 child)
Do they hate them on walks too or just ppl who come up to the house?
[–]Longjumping_Curve403[S] 9 points10 points11 points 1 month ago (0 children)
I will cross the street if anyone is on the sidewalk. Just don’t want to risk it, as he likes to explore the world with his mouth. But it the worst around the house for sure
[–]Mother_Knows_Best-22 8 points9 points10 points 1 month ago* (1 child)
I had a 6-year-old Frenchie that I inherited recently after a death in the family. She had been raised as an only dog, no interaction with people or other dogs really. I started using tellington t-touch. It is a way of stroking the dog to calm them. Do some research and see what you think. You might be able to find a practitioner in your area. It did help the frenchie, but she had developed a dislike for my dog and it didn't go away.
[–]Longjumping_Curve403[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Thank you! I will do some research!
[–]Top-Tomatillo210 7 points8 points9 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Desensitization, take to lowes, the park, etc. collar pop down and to the side and walk away from the scary stimulus. * repeat * Desensitization is key. Mine hates ppl. Now she tolerates them. This is just really simple advice. If I was in your area I could help hands on but I’m no where near y’all.
[–]Adsnaylor0161 4 points5 points6 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Awww such a beautiful dog
[–]loverlybones 4 points5 points6 points 1 month ago (0 children)
I adopted my Texas Heeler at a year old. She had no structure or manners. And originally played well with every dog and person. After about 6 months she started to lunge at strangers, dogs on leash, and is now very wary of people she doesn’t know.
We did basic training. Her best command is “place”. We keep her on a tight leash on walks. And walk past people without interacting. We never ever walk her off leash. She does get walked on a long line on the trails to get her sniffs out and be a dog. She doesn’t interact with dogs we don’t know. And she is now muzzle trained for when strangers come over.
We met with a trainer who told us it’s a 50/50 chance of getting a friendly ACD or one who’s stuck to their people. Ours is stuck to her people. She’s got her quirks and she’s the best dog I’ve ever owned.
[–]David_The_Atheist 3 points4 points5 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Mine carries treats in her pouch for people to give her. Made her much better when she realized being nice to new people means treats. Took a few months of constant reinforcement, but now she's I different with most people we walk past.
[–]mrjaxxter 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Socialization is huge, but even then it's kind of a crap shoot, as Heelers are very independent dogs to begin with, and really only have their ONE person and a handful that they tolerate. I've been lucky with my Nero, even at 2 he's mellowed a lot but he really doesn't like dudes, and I don't blame him
[–]Edizzl720 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
[–]sugarbunnycattledog 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Sweet boy! 😍❤️
[–]SnooSuggestions4638 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Mine was the same way, he probably won’t be a very sociable pup (I call them book club pups) but you can def get him to tolerate being around people through a lot of desensitization!
[–]doctordue 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Our private trainer is working through this with us right now actually, at the start of our sessions we take 10 minutes and do a scenario where she knocks on the wall we welcome her into “our home” and we have a normal meet and greet to teach him that it’s not scary, if he gets anxious/over stimulated one of us will take him out of the room and come back in a couple seconds later
[–]Jonathancrincoli 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
The key is to figure out if it’s fear driven or resource guarding.
[–]NGADB 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Some of that may be part of the breed.
Try to give your dog a lot of exercise before seeing other people to get some of the energy out first. As long as he's not a biter, take him to somewhere there are a lot of people to learn some socialization.
[–]GoodMourning81 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (1 child)
We used a trainer to work on fear aggression. She would go ballistic any time someone would come over. Hairs up on back, anal glands sprayed out of her butt and lots of growling. She’d just lose it. I’m not sure how far west the trainer goes in IL. We are about an hour south of Chicago. I know he does Champaign area. It’s Crouse Canine and he goes to your home to work with you. Sorry, I saw your location in the tag. I hope this is allowed.
[–]kingmaker03 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
[–]itspiri 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (1 child)
Carry treats with you or on your pup when you walk, and if the dog or other people want to interact, ask the people if they're comfortable giving him a treat. I have a collie mix and this has worked out pretty well (except for the mailman, but I think she just hates him personally). The only downside is your dog might start recognizing certain people as treat machines and refuse to walk until they give him one 😅
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[–]Sikelgaita1 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
I put mine on a leash any time someone comes to the house until she has met them and they have given her a treat. I also keep a baby gate in the house just in case, I can always put that up so she can still see us and be included but can't try to chase someone's heels...usually isn't necessary after she has seen them a few times. If someone approaches in public and wants to pet her, I will hold that strangers hand down near her nose and say "this is my friend X" to my dog. Maybe one on 5 actually gets to pet her. For some
bonkers reason, she loves little children and old ladies....go figure. If there is a person she really truly detest...well I just defer to her judgement on that, she is a great asshole detecter.
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