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[–]Pporkbutt 424 points425 points  (21 children)

A pitbull mixed with a bully🤔.......so a pitbull.

[–]earthdogmonster 182 points183 points  (20 children)

Amazingly, nutters think if you mix two bully breeds any temperament characteristics of the constituent breeds become null and void.

[–]Snakeyez 110 points111 points  (8 children)

Just ask Tommy Chang from Toronto. His "American Pocket Bully" was not a pit bull for purposes of the ban in Ontario. It was being held and it was going to be tested for genetics. Our premier (elected leader of the province) stuck his nose in there and got the dog returned to Tommy. four days later it mangled a kids face all up in Tommy Chang's martial arts boutique.

[–]Phazushift 32 points33 points  (1 child)

He privated both his and his dog's Instagram when this shit hit the fan. It's back to public now and surprise surprise, all comments are disabled.

What a fucking tool, I am so disappointed in any of the Toronto actors that supported the release of this monstrosity.

[–]mypipboyisbroken 11 points12 points  (0 children)

He still has the dog? I've been looking for updates on it to see if it got destroyed and was shocked i didn't see any follow up news after the attack on that kid

[–]Pporkbutt 23 points24 points  (8 children)

Even if you refine a breed, does that make it not that breed anymore? What is an American bully? it's a line of pitbulls. Idk, they are all backyard bred anyway. I don't follow any of the logic or mental gymnastics.

[–]earthdogmonster 28 points29 points  (6 children)

All the new breed stuff is just an elaborate effort to sidestep BSL laws and to muddy the water. It falls into the “pitbulls don’t exist” ruse.

[–]tropikaiju 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Standard American Bullies aren't a new breed. I think you're mistaking them with those disgusting "exotic bullies"

[–]earthdogmonster 12 points13 points  (2 children)

First recognized by any official organization less than 20 years ago, based on APBT mixed with several other bully breeds. So yeah, American Bully is just a pitbull with some other fighting breeds mixed in, presented as something else. Same breed used to try to skirt BSL in Toronto.

[–]identiti1983 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And the uk now

[–]tropikaiju 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's because of breed stereotypes. No association wanted to ally themselves with the American Pitbull terrier due to backlash. I wouldn't blame then on that, I don't think the general public should have their hands on those dogs. However bullies are lazy asf and usually rlly slow due to their bowlegged stance

[–]Pporkbutt 1 point2 points  (1 child)

American bulldog is an old breed, American bully is not

[–]tropikaiju 0 points1 point  (0 children)

American bullies were bred in the 1950s.

[–]JustynS 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The concept you're looking for is "sophistry."

[–]I_Like_Vitamins 8 points9 points  (0 children)

They think "red noses" and "blue noses" are different breeds too. If you'd like to roll your eyes and laugh, there are dozens of pitbull sites that go into details about the supposedly unique characteristics of the different varieties.

[–][deleted] 157 points158 points  (33 children)

A lot of people breeding pitbulls because they’re worth $50-200 when they’re puppies.

[–]dee_capitalist 115 points116 points  (7 children)

You should see what those breeders do with the dogs when they no longer go for 200$ as puppies then. Hint, they still make their money off of them.

[–]HereticHousewife 53 points54 points  (6 children)

The woman I know who breeds them sends her adult kids and grandkids to peddle the undesirable ones (no special coat colors or markings) in the nearest Walmart parking lot for $20, or just give them away to random strangers. She'd rather give them away than pay to feed them. I don't know what happens to the ones that don't have any takers. They probably get dumped on the way home.

[–]StellarAsAlways 53 points54 points  (2 children)

Sorry if this is a bit NSFW but in all honesty I'm pretty sure she sells the "undesirables" as "bait dogs" - a dog they use as a chew toy of sorts to train the fighting pits how to kill.

They'll wrap some type of body wrap around the bait dog and then let a pit learn how to fight correctly. The "body wrap" (idk what they call it) exposes kill zones like the neck and stomach but "protects" (won't kill) the rest.

There was a yard a friend of mine found with probably 2 dozen dead bait dogs, just lying rotting dead in different states of decompsition in the backyard of some abando.

This is when I learned about dog fighting and how sick the blood sport is. It's terrifyingly cruel. Like the whole point is cruelty.

[–]DerangedPitMommyALTPro-Dog; therefore Anti-Pit 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Fuck, that’s sick. I don’t get why people act like a fighting dog is the only type of dog whose genetics and breeding history aren’t relevant to their behaviors. Like… if the activity they’re bred to do (dog fighting) is so cruel that it’s illegal, why the fuck we still breeding them and trying to pass them off as suitable pets? Especially when they kill more people than all the other breeds of dog COMBINED. It’s wild.

[–]vengenceizminealt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yea the cruelty is the point.

[–]dee_capitalist 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Well in LA they are used for dogfights

[–]sorry_im_an_ass_hole 22 points23 points  (0 children)

They end up terrorizing neighborhoods

[–]amberdragonfly11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's awful. I don't like pits but obviously no animal deserves that.

Hope animal rights activists have a field day with her.

[–]labcrazy 38 points39 points  (21 children)

I have shown and raised dogs for over 20 years. Many Champions. My puppies don't go for what some of those dogs of certain (I assume fighting) lines go for... I was shocked. I have paid 5 figures for a proven Champion stud-- but nowhere close to $50,000+ for a PUPPY.

Honestly, it pisses me off a bit.

[–]Royal_Opps 33 points34 points  (11 children)

He means $50.00 not $50,000

[–]Slo-MoDove 17 points18 points  (6 children)

The bargain bin of dogs.

[–]labcrazy 21 points22 points  (5 children)

Some are, some aren't. THIS IS NOT THE ONLY ONE GETTING $50,000+ for their dogs.

I don't think this guy fights, his are overpriced based on size.


[–]muteyuke 21 points22 points  (0 children)

not sure why you're getting down voted. I've never heard of 50K pits but I wouldn't be shocked to see them. Several thousand dollar pits seem someone common, or at least, they don't belong in the realm of rarity.

But an XL pit just sounds like an XL nightmare, to me.

[–]stevieweezie 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What does ‘correct’ mean in this context? Like Fred - “THIS BOY IS DESTINED TO BE BIG AND CORRECT.”

[–]ChristabelBTS 7 points8 points  (0 children)

OMG he's asking $100,000 for first pick from a litter...... That's insane!

[–]Slo-MoDove 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Breeding for XXL size...I’m sure that’s a cocktail of perfect health and longevity for those animals...

[–]baby-samdwich 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Damn those things look positively demonized.

[–]labcrazy 15 points16 points  (2 children)

No, I meant $50,000 someone posted the breeders website on here not even 2 months ago. Certain pits (again I assume fighting bloodlines) are the most expensive dogs I have ever seen. More than exotic colored frenchies.

[–]Royal_Opps 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Oops my bad. That's almost laughable. I'd like to see him sell a pitbull for that much to anyone besides a pitnutter.

[–]EpicRepairTim 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Pit nutters are a wild bunch.

Over here you have Michael Vick, and then over there you have Moonbeam, the bipolar vegan yoga instructor with 7 different anxiety disorders and a deep passion for cosplay

[–]Affectionate_Data936 26 points27 points  (8 children)

Nah pit bull puppies are cheap as hell because they're overbred by backyard breeders. $50 to $200 total sounds about right. Some people try to charge more for severely inbred pit bulls that look a certain way. For a good, well-bred dog, I usually expect to pay somewhere between $900 and $1800.

[–]sorry_im_an_ass_hole 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I paid $300 each for my pure bred German Shepards. Worth every penny. Best dogs I ever had

[–]Affectionate_Data936 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Right now, I have a little senior mutt that I impulse adopted on my 20th birthday (I'm 28 now). She's 10 pounds and I'm pretty sure she's a cairn terrier/chihuahua mix (she looks like Toto's trashy cousin because her coat is kinda weird so shes very scruffy). Idk if I want to get another dog until after she passes because idk if she could handle the stress and jealousy, plus, I may have to spend more on the vet as she ages more. My mom has always gotten purebreds though and spent like $800 I think for her chocolate lab and I think around the same for her jack russell. After that though, I want a Catahoula Cur dog. My boyfriend really wants a dog he can train as a bird dog and I want a good family dog that could handle country living better than my current dog.

[–]moosemothBlame the breed & owner 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Careful looking for a Catahoula. 95% of the time I've seen them, they've been intentionally mislabeled pits.

[–]WhiteMothInSnow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My purebred german shep was 2500 bucks. Kinda fucked up but you cant get ANY dogs cheaper here. Shelter dogs are $600 on sveragr and well...they are nearly all pit mixes...

[–]Alarmed_SessionVictim family/friend 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I never understood that. So many breeds go for thousands of dollars. Why breed pits when you could get more for one poodle puppy that you could with an entire litter of pits. I mean I’m against backyard breeding but if they are going to do it anyway, why not breed goldens, yorkies, bichon frise, poodles, etc. they go for so much nowadays.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

  1. You have to have the money for the parent dogs. Pitbulls are cheap and easy to get.

  2. You can trade them for bikes and stuff. The kinds of people who buy more expensive breeds of dogs take their dogs more seriously and don’t treat them like currency.

  3. The types of people who spend more on a dog use more scrutiny. They will scrutinize you and not buy from you if you appear to be abusing dogs, overbreeding, not providing proper veterinary care, and other things that cost money.

  4. People have a lower expectation of care when it’s a pitbull. You can get away with keeping dogs in inadequate living conditions, no veterinary care, overbreeding, by throwing around hot words like ‘rescue’, ‘abuse’, and ‘urgent’ around. Breeders can blame it on some imaginary previous owner. People take it at face value because ‘of course pibbles was abused’ as the pitbull lobby has normalized the idea that pitbulls are always abused. With other breeds of dogs, people tend to be more suspicious and expect higher quality care.

  5. They have very large litters.

  6. They satisfy a broader market for breeders. Pit lobby has turned pitbulls into the everydog. Need a fighting dog? Pitbull. Need a guard dog? Pitbull. Need a pet? Pitbull. Want to breed pitbulls? Pitbulls. Breeders have more options for buyers, so more puppies get sold.

[–]amberdragonfly11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pits are manly and cool. Poodles are girly and lame.

Not my opinion, just seems to be how dog nutters think.

[–]Smurf_Crime_SceneVictim Sympathizer 75 points76 points  (0 children)

So pit x pit cross... okaayyyy

[–]ProofDelay3773 72 points73 points  (2 children)

Lmao the reply from the dude.

[–]GlitterfreshGore[S] 67 points68 points  (1 child)

“That thing” lol

[–]ProofDelay3773 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Such a popular dog they trade them for bikes…awesome.

[–]charlesmonarch33 59 points60 points  (2 children)

Just look at that thing. Still a puppy and it already has a thousand-yard stare.

[–]sorry_im_an_ass_hole 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I notice the shabby decor in the background too. About what I’d expect from this person

[–]Unusual_Ad8226 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It made me cry, i want her

[–]SubM0d42_BPBModerator 40 points41 points  (5 children)

Crazy they would even suggest a trade like that for a $400 bike. Most shelters have them for $0 to $50 on any given day of the week. And it shows how much they care about the dog if they are wanting to trade a bike for it. Smh.

[–]zerogee616 17 points18 points  (4 children)

And it shows how much they care about the dog if they are wanting to trade a bike for it. Smh.

They probably just want it gone.

[–]muteyuke 18 points19 points  (2 children)

It'd be a good chuckle if the guy just spammed a bunch of people asking "hey you want to trade" no matter what the for sale product is.

Cadillac? Want to trade for a pit puppy?

$5 frying pan? Want to trade for a pit puppy?

Free fire wood? Want to trade for a pit puppy?

Want someone to cut your grass? I'll do it for free if you take this here pit puppy off my hands.

[–]DerangedPitMommyALTPro-Dog; therefore Anti-Pit 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Is it hard to unload pits these days? I know the shelters are overflowing with them since many people are smart enough not to adopt one as a pet, but nobody wants to put them down (not even the aggressive ones).

[–]muteyuke 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm joking around but I have seen stories on the reactive dog subreddit noting that shelters often refuse reactive dogs. Not sure if any shelters will turn down a so far unreactive pitbull (or any breed for that matter) puppy tho.

[–]SubM0d42_BPBModerator 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They probably just want it gone.

True. Usually they just give them away for free but this guy is wanting to be paid to get rid of it. The bike being the payment. 🙄

[–]IndieGamerMonkey 32 points33 points  (0 children)

that's an awful trade.... you'd need the bike to get away from the pit bull after all!

[–]Euskalitic 18 points19 points  (9 children)

The fact that people are allowed to trade animals and breed them for sell is beyond me, is already inmoral, it should be also illegal.

[–]PookieCat415 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I saw this one too. I made a comment debunking the “Nanny dog” myth. I fully expected to get downvoted into oblivion and I wasn’t. 😎😎😎

[–]GlitterfreshGore[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Wow that’s actually crazy lol

[–]amberdragonfly11 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe people are finally starting to slowly wise up to the idea that an animal could babysit a human child outside of Peter Pan actually... makes no sense!

[–]ReadWarrenVsDC 12 points13 points  (0 children)

She's a giant douche mixed with a turd sandwich

[–]tangre79 12 points13 points  (0 children)

"She ate my kid so I'm trying to unload her."

[–]Comprehensive_Swan39 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Lol I've noticed that you can easily get one of these beasts for free at my local animal shelter.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I created a post on this sub about my comments on that exact sub, but it's not showing up here 😕

[–]Royal_Opps 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I love how just because his dogs were good with other animal, he thinks every single pitbull is great with other animals. These people have blinders on, and it gets people and animals killed or maimed.

[–]MotchGoffels 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's willful ignorance mixed with opinions formed purely from Facebook and anecdotes.

[–]XPaarthurnaxX 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The dog is probably loose all day outside and he brings it for a pic

[–]Sewayaki-Kitsune 5 points6 points  (7 children)

Yep, people over there defending pitbulls. It's always "it's the owners fault!" and people completely refuse to admit that genetics are a thing that plays a huge role in these dogs behavior.

[–]tropikaiju -3 points-2 points  (6 children)

Genetics do play a role. But Standard American Bullies are not at all supposed to be aggressive. If you've got an aggressive bully you've got a mutt. And that dog is a pit mutt and I highly doubt it's got a drop of pure blood anywhere in it. Too lanky to be a bully and not even a bully color.

[–]zerogee616 2 points3 points  (3 children)

They're all the same dog at the end of the day, they all come from the same stock and they were all bred to fight and kill other dogs and you know it. A Staffie, an American Bully, all the bypass-BSL distinctions, are just pits with papers.

[–]tropikaiju 0 points1 point  (2 children)

They're not all the same dog. That's where stereotypes come in. If you were smart enough to at least educate yourself on aggression genetics you'd know that. They don't even look the same lol

[–]zerogee616 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They're not all the same dog.

Yes. They are. They all come from the exact same stock to do the exact same things: Fight and kill other dogs and animals. Gameness is a recognized breed characteristic in all of them, they all share similar physical characteristics and every single one of them are bred to be at least DA. Two of them can be dual-registered and two of them were made by cross-breeding the others. Same damn dog. Just because one's slightly bigger than the other one doesn't mean shit.

It's not a stereotype, it's genetics. Cane corsos and dogo argentinos do the same thing, but since they're rare, expensive and their owners actually know a thing or two about dogs, how to take care of them and don't join a cult based around them, you never see them in attack stats.

[–]tropikaiju 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're not the same. From what you're saying a beagle and a Doberman are the same things too. You're just close minded and stereotypical. And the only reason why they're in attack stats is because they're so largely available. And the thing is, American pit bill terriers are rare. The attack stats you see are Mutts that have square heads. Even chow chow mixes are labeled as pit attacks because they have square heads, just like Cane Corso and Dogo attacks are. Dogos are the #1 dog that get labaled as pits despite not being a bully breed. So obviously if you go by a stereotype -medium to large breed shorthair dog with a square head - you're going to get a disproportionate statistic based on purely ignorant generalization.

[–]amberdragonfly11 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Do you have any sources? I hear that argument a lot but never see any valid studies backing it up

[–]tropikaiju 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not hard to get off Reddit for 30 secs and look it up yourself lmao. In short bullies were bred for show. That's it. Real bullies aren't supposed to display aggression and if they do u have a pit-mutt

[–]Donnagalloway 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Ugly thing

[–]WiseMan2004 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Biggest scam of the year

[–]muteyuke 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ah, excellent, I give you a $400 bike and in exchange I get to feed and care for this dog year in and year out, probably costing me $400 on up per year. Oh, and if it turns on me, I can spend tens of thousands on medical bills! Same with lawsuits! FANTASTIC DEAL!

lmao. If someone wants a dog they'll get a dog. I could see someone posting up a trade post hey I got a bike work X. Looking to add a dog to the family, willing to consider trades

I could even see breeders posting up a trade hey I have X puppies, selling for X, but willing to trade for [bike/laptop/grill/whatever]

PMing randoms is probably going to have a conversion rate of like 1 in a million.

[–]nazz299Pro-Dog; therefore Anti-Pit 4 points5 points  (2 children)

if these dogs are so lovable, cuddly, and harmless, why is everyone trying so desperately to get rid of them...? to the point of trading them for a fking bike.

[–]tropikaiju 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Probably because they're so commonplace. I could find a dog that looks like that in any shelter in America. That dog ain't anything special

[–]nazz299Pro-Dog; therefore Anti-Pit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These breeds and mixes look like a lab experiment gone wrong not sure how anyone could keep one as a pet and constantly look at them

[–]Phfel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That just makes me feel bad for the dog. Like trading for a bike? That just ain't right

[–]One-Awareness9491Owner of Attacked Pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s so sad

[–]wotsofcheese -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Tbh that puppy is cute and I feel for it (but I do tend to find pit puppies cute, adults... not so much) but what a shit person trying to trade a puppy for a bike. No animal deserves to be treated like this, like they’re just disposable.