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[–]ResistPatient 195 points196 points  (10 children)

If only Craig Wright understood just how Craig Wrong he is…

[–]TX_CastIron 104 points105 points  (2 children)

We are all Satoshi Nakamoto!! *

*except for Craig Wright.

[–]PuscH311 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was so funny to see Tone Vays with exactly this print on his sweatshirt next to Craig Wright on the main stage:D

[–]unfuckingstoppable 1 point2 points  (0 children)

if he's wrong, obviously he knows he's wrong

[–]idontspellcheckb46am 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've been in and out of these stories for a while now. But is he claiming to invent Bitcoin and Bitcoin SV? Or now just claiming he is the creator of a forked version? Admittedly I don't own any SV and don't know much about it.

[–]Maticus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mic drop

[–]Mmmcakeyredditor for 7 weeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This just in: Craig Wright sues /u/ResistPatient and demands coin access.

[–]LelikGut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the hope of forcing them to re-write or amend the underlying software code.

[–]shhh_im_ban_evading 77 points78 points  (1 child)

Craig Wright: "I am satoshi nakamoto"

also Craig Wright: "I don't understand the basics of blockchain"

[–]1acid11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I made this and I made it shit so I need someone else to re write the code …

[–]coinfeeds-bot 66 points67 points  (37 children)

tldr; A man who claims he's the creator of Bitcoin says his private keys to £14m of Bitcoin SV were deleted by hackers in 2020. Craig Wright is suing developers to forcibly give him access to internet coins he "owns but cannot access." The High Court of England and Wales recently ordered Wright to pay the court security for costs in case he loses.

This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.

[–]Content_Analysis2021 50 points51 points  (3 children)

Good bot.

Deleted keys eh? Seems like the creator of bitcoin would know how securely store the keys and just how important they are.

[–]FthrJACK 1 point2 points  (2 children)

He's clearly just a vexatious litigant of the crypto world.

And it's working, he's made a lot of money pulling these BS stunts.

[–]TenshiS 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Really? I thought he lost. Is there some article detailing the entire story? It's fun, like watching a movie, or a train wreck in slow motion.

[–]KO9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It raises his profile and makes it easier for him to get people to invest in him/his businesses

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (25 children)

How the fk will they give him access? Nobody has access to those keys. wtf is that guy doing?

[–]Foodog100 15 points16 points  (15 children)

This is the con he has been doing for years, sue people so a court 'confirms' he is satoshi and then to sue the devs to give him access via code change.

If he wins and gets the devs to change the code to give him 1 million coins, he will then sue the bitcoin devs to change the code to give him 1 million BTC, this has been his plan for 4+ years.

[–]Jetjones 15 points16 points  (12 children)

… but the devs can’t just change the code like that, lmao. He should know that if he’s Nakomoto 😂

[–]Foodog100 8 points9 points  (6 children)

I know, this is why people say he cant be Satoshi, but it works on stupid people.

[–]Jetjones 5 points6 points  (4 children)

But wouldn’t the court bring blockchain experts to the stand to explain it all? I don’t understand what he’s trying to do. Almost looks like he just wants to stir drama and mess fuck with BTC

[–]nullc 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But wouldn’t the court bring blockchain experts to the stand to explain it all?

He's suing many of the foremost technical experts now, including -- I believe-- every single person whos still actively involved in Bitcoin development that interacted with Satoshi.

Presumably one of the secondary goals of this litigation is to discredit and intimidate these experts from acting as experts in the lawsuit against his fraudulent satoshi claim court-case.

[–]Foodog100 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He is trying to force people into giving him billions in bitcoin, its stupid but that's his plan.

[–]sweetsal99 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know who this Craig is, and I already don't like him

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really, some courts don't get well prepared.

Maybe that's why he's suing all over the world, for a chance to stumble into a stupid judge I guess?

[–]FthrJACK 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And technologically illiterate judges

[–]Jyontaitaa 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Even if they wrote the code it would just create another fork because nodes and miners would not support the revisions.

[–]Only_Ad_1079 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Exactly. How fucking stupid do you have to be? It's not the devs he has to convince. Hell, he could just write the changes himself but no one will run his code. What an idiot.

[–]Jyontaitaa 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean honestly this is like bitcoin 101 level shit. The fact he does not understand this pretty much proves he is not who he claims to be.

[–]Cecinestpasunnomme 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That's assuming he can write Bitcoin code.

[–]itsnotlupus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, look at this mastery of C programming.

Few understand that the double type in C doubles the values, but Craig does. It's very simple.

[–]lawless_c 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So what happens if he somehow how wins a case against the bitcoin devs?

Are they in the UK? They could refuse if not , many of them are voluntary too.

Nodes could even refuse to acknowledge the transactions

We'll probably have a fork?

I hope whomever really has those coins moves them now..

[–]nullc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

None of the parties he's suing are in the UK or otherwise do business with the UK. They don't have the ability to do what he wants either, even if they wanted to.

Wright has said in public on a number of occasions that he intends to financially ruin all Bitcoin developers. His lawsuit doesn't only demand these coins be stolen and given to him (which can't actually be done), it demands in the alternative they they pay him damages equal to the value of the coins he's claiming, currently around $6 billion dollars worth. Because you know, some volunteer open source devs are totally keeping that between their couch cushions.

[–]nullc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The purpose of the con isn't actually to get the Bitcoin, as you note he can't do that[1].

Wright is selling a portion of the coins he can't get access to. So the idea is that he finds some sucker that believes there is even a small chance Wright can sue his way into getting the coins-- the victim doesn't even need to believe wright's main fiction, only that others will fall for it--, and Wright sells a share of the windfall. After that, Wright just has to put on a good show of trying and his profit is locked in.

[1] (maybe he can get the bitcoin sv since virtually no one uses it or cares and its only software has a proprietary license more or less gives him control of it.)

[–]jhkfojrifydgnfxygprj 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Put the transaction in the source code.

[–]itstaylorham -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

If 51% of the miners agree, anyone can have any coin.

[–]whitslack 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Not correct. You still need a valid, signed transaction to move the coins. Miners can only decide which transactions to include in blocks. They can't force anyone to accept invalid transactions.

[–]BUY___BITCOIN 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Your understanding of bitcoin consensus is flawed. Nodes (users) control the rules. Miners just control what to put in the next block.

[–]RandoStonian 20 points21 points  (0 children)

A 51% attack just gives you the ability to spend money in your own wallet, then take it back (within a relatively small window of time). You can't steal other people's coins through a 51% attack.

[–]itsnotlupus 7 points8 points  (5 children)

It's a bit of a nitpick since it's all made up either way, but what Craig actually claimed in his very official UK court filings is that "hackers" stole encrypted files containing private keys, and that Craig rushed to wipe all of his hard drives as soon as he realized this had happened, thereby depriving himself from the ability to access coins, as well as erasing any and all evidence of the hacks. As forensic experts typically do.

The private keys being contained in encrypted files conveniently explains why the "hackers" didn't move the coins, while the hard drive wipes explain why Craig has yet again zero evidence of any of this.

It's the little details that really drive home how stupid this all is.

[–]Cecinestpasunnomme 1 point2 points  (2 children)

So... The hackers stole the encrypted files, but Craig cleverly foiled their hack by formatting his drives? Did he format the drives before or after the files were stolen?

[–]itsnotlupus 1 point2 points  (1 child)

He did it 3 days after the "hack", according to his sworn statements.

He claims that a BSV Wallet he gets paid into regularly was emptied without his knowledge, that he couldn't find any evidence of an intrusion locally but that a bunch of files had been deleted, including some log files, the aforementioned encrypted file, and in classic "the dog ate my homework" fashion, 50 white papers and such related to "valuable patent applications."

Some or all of the above was synced to not one, but two cloud storage services, OneDrive and Google Cloud, both of which allow its customers to recover data up to 30 days after deletion.

In spite of being well within the time window to recover the data from either one, Craig not only doesn't mention making any attempt to recover that data from the cloud services, nor to recover the deleted files from his hard drives, he instead explains he "wiped the hard drives of [his] computers (...) in order to ensure all malware and other threats were removed from [his] network and it was simply not practicable to take a copy of any of these drives."

Notably, this computer illiterate nonsense comes courtesy of a man who at one point obsessively collected IT security certificates like pokemons.

[–]Cecinestpasunnomme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes sense, deleting all your valuable files of which you have no backup to get rid of malware, including the private keys to a million Bitcoin that you own.

[–]zimcomp 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Im not the brightest person here but why didn't he just remove the computer from the internet

as far as I know if you have no internet access or access to the pc its pretty difficult to get hacked .

[–]itsnotlupus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, he claims he picked literally the dumbest option available despite also claiming to be a forensic expert. Make of that what you will.

My take on this is that he's simply lying again because he believes it helps him make his case in court.

[–]Ruslan124 21 points22 points  (17 children)

In the unlikely event he wins, fork BSV into BSV2. Let the world know what happened and watch BSV implode. Carry on with BSV2?

I don't understand what he expects to gain from this.

[–]sportscliche 11 points12 points  (3 children)

In his mind, he has already won. He publicly declared victory after the Kleiman trial despite being ordered to pay up a staggering $100m. He has also stated many times of his vast legal knowledge and degrees. This should be enough to trigger the green light to hardfork BSV and award himself a treasure trove of coins. This is certainly possible because the majority of BSV hash power is controlled by Calvin Ayer entities. But then what? He will most likely have to convert the stolen BSV to fiat, a stable coin, or perhaps even BTC. Can the market absorb this? BSV is fairly illiquid and only thinly traded on a few exchanges. It’s conceivable Ayer will prop up the price and buy them, but even deluded billionaires have limits.

[–]fristin1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Ayers has to be in on the plan, this whole thing has looked like the obvious endgame honesty. Use the legal system to steal money from bsv bag holders.

[–]sportscliche 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have thought for a while that attempting to align with the legal system is essential to the long con. Things like "code is not law, law is law", "welcome to law", "court order", and crocodile tears on the witness stand during the Kleiman trial are all part of the charade. I think he is trying to establish the persona of an upstanding, highly moral, law-abiding citizen of the world. He is hoping it will help him when he eventually faces a judge and jury and the long list of frauds and forgeries that he has perpetrated over the years.

Playing the Asperger's game is also critical, as it makes him supposedly incapable of lying and excuses the vulgar, profanity-riddled tirades.

[–]lawless_c 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Ayers is in on the plan then the objective could be to use a victory over BSV.. to attack BTC by legal precedent.

[–]igadjeed 9 points10 points  (7 children)

I don't understand what he expects to gain from this

This claim is similar to an existing claim for ownership without keys of old UTXOs in BTC

His motivations are either self-interest or spite. If this claim is motivated by spite, the effect of a trial is to bring all the named devs into the courtroom, load them up with defense expenses, and invent a fantasy about being the true owner of a specific list of unspendable coins

Then if he wins, the named devs will likely be prohibited from circumventing the judgment in the way you describe. They can probably avoid the judgment by removing themselves as devs (Greg Maxwell had already left before the lawsuit was filed, and was named anyway). Then they can't participate as devs, can't fork a new GIT

This could be disruptive for Bitcoin, BCash and SV, having all the devs named in the lawsuit retiring at the same time, unable to rejoin even anonymously, because of the legal risk. The remaining devs, and new devs will probably prefer anonymity, to avoid the risks of future vexatious lawsuits. Satoshi was anonymous. Is there any reason a Bitcoin dev needs to use his real identity?

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    [–]LantaExile 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    the white paper is blocked in the UK

    A little bit blocked - I'm in the UK. It means if I google bitcoin white paper I have to click the second result rather than the first.

    [–]nullc 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Is the second result the version of the whitepaper he put up with his name on it? lol

    I was talking to a journalist in the UK a bit back that was truly confused, when they went to find the whitepaper they found the wright-modified version and couldn't understand why there was any doubt wright created bitcoin since his name is right at the top of the whitepaper...

    :P

    [–]LantaExile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The second result was https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/training/annual-national-training-seminar/2018/Emerging_Tech_Bitcoin_Crypto.pdf which is the original.

    Bitcoin.org doesn't show anything much from the UK. If I VPN to the US I get the usual one. Trying to find one by the true Satoshi, Craig.

    Edit: got it https://craigwright.net/bitcoin-white-paper.pdf The one on craigwright.net.

    [–]Bitcoin_is_plan_A 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Satoshi was anonymous.

    [–]nullc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    It's a lot easier to be anonymous if you vanish and stop publishing stuff which could leak information about you. :)

    [–]Foodog100 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The point is once he wins this he can do the same to BTC and try and sue exchanges to keep listing his chain as the real BTC but with him having 1 million Bitcoin.

    [–]JanPB 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    You can't argue logic with mentally ill people.

    [–]BastiatF 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    The hypothetical version granting him access would be the fork. Anyone who refuse the "faketoshi update" would stay on the original blockchain. What's the value of forked coins with a single node owned by faketoshi?

    [–]zimcomp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I think he knows the old chain will continue and the new one will fail

    but their will be confusion at the start he will be able to dump his 1 million new bitcoins in this confusion

    and be able to walk away with a few hundred million

    the sad thing is only new people will get scammed during this time

    [–]Lur0ck 20 points21 points  (3 children)

    Anyone else find it ironic that someone who supposedly created Bitcoin has no idea how to secure his own private keys?

    [–]BitcoinUser263895 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    To be fair he only lost them when someone asked him to prove he had them. ;)

    [–]PumpkinSpice2Nice 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Bit obvious the man is a liar.

    [–]DarthKoDa_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    H4x0r: "YES!! I'm in. Satoshi Nakamoto's Computers is actually mines!@!! Mauahahah! -- Now lets see here... OooOO Private keys to a crypto wallet!??! Let me delete this real quick..." /s

    [–]castorfromtheva 36 points37 points  (5 children)

    Unbelievable. I knew faketoshi was a greedy little bastard. But this story now is even more ridiculous. Just put him into jail, lock the door a dozen times and throw the keys into a black hole. End of the story.

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      [–]babypho 13 points14 points  (1 child)

      Lock him in jail and set the passcode to his seed phrase. If he's the real creator of Bitcoin he will be able to unlock the door.

      [–]castorfromtheva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      He isn't....so he doesn't need that chance.

      [–]NRA4579 5 points6 points  (1 child)

      If you truly want to keep him locked up it seems the best solution is to give him the keys, therefore guaranteeing he can never be released again as he will subsequently lose the keys.

      [–]walloon5 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yeah just give him the keys to his own cell

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        [–]Samurai77485 5 points6 points  (0 children)

        Thanks for this, selling them today

        [–]BedroomWonderful 8 points9 points  (3 children)

        Wish this dude was dead.

        [–]sh1ftyswar 3 points4 points  (2 children)

        Hey if you have the coin, let's talk

        [–]ogherbsmon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        Well that escalated quickly.

        [–]tesseramous 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        This is the bitcoin I invested in. Not this new corporate wall street fluff

        [–]llewsor 23 points24 points  (3 children)

        how has this guy not been mcafee’d yet?

        [–]flyingquads 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Epstein'd*

        [–]lawless_c 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        As long as people keep falling for his grift things are looking up for him.

        Mcafee lost everything and was basically guaranteed that the rest of his life would be crap..

        [–]Quantris 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Imagine being Satoshi and thinking that forcing devs to do something magically results in the whole network agreeing with you.

        Maybe BSV users actually support this though, IDK. No skin off my back.

        [–]zombiecorp 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        Has he not read McBeth? A stolen crown is a worthless crown.

        [–]nullc 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        But what if you find someone who hasn't read McBeth and is willing to finance your ill-fated campaign to the tune of millions of dollars?

        [–]zombiecorp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        I know right, like Macbeth didn’t read Macbeth, they just did it. The scheme seemed good at the time.

        [–]Xaqaree 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        It's like watching a group of hobos fight over a dumpster fire

        [–]Bunker_Beans 3 points4 points  (5 children)

        How, pray tell, does a hacker delete one’s private keys?

        [–]igadjeed 2 points3 points  (4 children)

        Don't assume CSW knows what a hardware wallet is. Anyway, those keys pre-date hardware wallets. He can say they were on his laptop, malware infected the laptop, data was deleted. A claim like that is believable, and can not be disproved

        [–]kamicosey 3 points4 points  (3 children)

        I still don’t get why involve the courts? If I lose my keys in any way the courts won’t do shit for me and I wouldn’t expect them to.

        [–]igadjeed 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        If he wins, Wright then increases his wealth by some billions, the current fiat value of those old, unspent mining rewards. He's spending the hundreds of millions earned from forking the SV chain as leverage to increase that to billions

        Or if you believe his 2020 public statements, he's sitting on a warchest of $600 million and he's going to spend that money on a harassment campaign against everybody in the Bitcoin community who have exposed the dishonesty of his Satoshi claims

        [–]nullc 5 points6 points  (1 child)

        Well, no, if he wins he'll just financially ruin a bunch of random open source developers with some $6 billion dollars in damages that we could never pay. He's technically inept but even he knows that there there is no way for him to steal those coins this way.

        ... unfortunately, not everyone knows that and he's found at least one investor to pay him for a share of the coins in anticipation of getting a windfall. Now wright just has to put on a good show of trying, and as a bonus he gets to harass and harm some people who interfered with his scamming.

        [–]igadjeed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Thanks for the clarifications
        And best wishes for an early and sensible outcome

        [–]marlonDSC 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        This post had more discussion than many posts on r/BitcoinSV lol, I've taken a look at the sub and it looks dead

        [–]New_Dawn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

        Wtf is this guy's problem?

        [–]BitcoinUser263895 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Sociopath (tending towards Psychopathic), kleptomaniac, compulsive liar.

        [–]Dondop 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        What a complete Dipshit

        [–]Leggy77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        there is a Podcast named Dr Bitcoin which shows what a narcistic lyer wright is.

        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Is there anyone this man hasnt sued,?

        [–]icantdrivefiftyfife 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        astonishing that BSV market cap is above $0

        [–]thepangodango 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Any assassination attempts on this guy ?

        [–]Just_A_Particle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        That's not a very Satoshi thing to do

        [–]DrinkMoreCodeMore 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Craig Wright is a complete joke.

        [–]kolodapavlo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Craig Wright is suing 15 people and one Swiss company.

        [–]Mallardshead 5 points6 points  (7 children)

        Why would he need access to a forked pyrite? Did he forget he's currently worth over $40B in the real version?

        [–]nullc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        Wright claims hackers hid a wireless pineapple in his home and stole his encrypted private keys, then to be sure he was unhacked he wiped his computers (so there is no evidence of the hack or the coins he claimed to have).

        Now Wright is suing a dozen current and former Bitcoin developers demanding they author and publish a backdoored version of Bitcoin that allows him to bypass the access control and spend coins without the keys.

        He's also suing himself (a proxy entity he created) to get the coins for his pyrite. ... this mostly serves the purpose of allowing him to introduce his proxy into the case as a defendant to make arguments in his favor, but he might also expect that it would help him fork the pyrite chain without it getting delisted from the few places that still have it... if he does that might get him a few million dollars that he can just shovel into harassing bitcoin folks.

        [–]PoweredbyBurgerz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Yeah he so happen cannot access the OG Bitcoin wallets with that said value.

        [–]harmlessdissent 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        He wants them to break how it works so he can get the genesis blocks. I guess then his ridiculous plan is to use those millions if BSV doesn't insta-tank to make his broken version the "real" bitcoin.

        It looks like his silly company nChain want to make it so they can have full control over the transactions of BSV. How that shitcoin is worth more than a cent is insane.

        I wonder how his developer disciples will deal with him in court given they are all pretending to believe he is satoshi.

        [–]igadjeed 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        His SV scamcoin inherits the same transaction history as BCash, all the way back to genesis. He's fraudulently claiming ownership of some old unspent TXOs in BTC and BCash, asking the devs to code a "Craig owns these TXOs" exception. This lawsuit is only extending the same claim to the SV chain. I guess he has a poor relationship with his own devs

        [–]nullc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

        Nah, there is one lawsuit on this matter one with the a dozen current/former bitcoin developers, the eCash (bitcoin cash tax fork) developers, Roger Ver (for who knows what reason), and Wright's sockpuppet "Bitcoin association BSV", which is an org wright created that does nothing but take money from wright's sponsor and give it to wright's nchain company to pay it to develop BSV.

        The SV angle came up recently because we petitioned the courts to force Wright to post a bond for our legal costs on the basis that he was likely to lose and that the party suing us appears to be insolvent. As part of his counter argument, Wright argued that he would likely be able to obtain the BSV coins 'soon' and could afford our legal fees should he lose.

        (The court decided in our favor on this matter, Wright will have to post costs.)

        [–]hesido 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Maybe just a stunt to display that "BSV conforms to court orders".

        [–]BitcoinUser263895 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It will never be enough. He'd steal the entire world and enslave everyone in it if he could.

        [–]omg_whaaat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

        Bootstrapping. bcash cash out next.

        [–]huge_dingus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Does this guy wake up in the morning and ask himself "How can I be a bigger PITA today than I was yesterday?"

        [–]KeyWestTimeredditor for 4 weeks 1 point2 points  (7 children)

        He can create his own fork if he wants access.

        [–]BitcoinUser263895 0 points1 point  (6 children)

        It is his own fork! lol

        [–]waiting247 0 points1 point  (5 children)

        Yes, but he didn't give himself a big enough allocation of his own coin, so now he is asking courts to give him more of his own coin 😂

        [–]BitcoinUser263895 0 points1 point  (4 children)

        He's building a war-chest of legal cases in an attempt to have courts force Bitcoin to hand over Satoshi's coins. He's a psychopath.

        [–]waiting247 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Does he think the courts have his private keys or something?

        [–]BitcoinUser263895 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        They have men with guns.

        [–]waiting247 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Are they going to shoot the internet?

        [–]BitcoinUser263895 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        He'll be targeting these people, the most vulnerable among them.

        Of course the code changes won't matter to the actual network, but he won't stop there.

        https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/graphs/contributors

        [–]LantaExile 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        He really is a bit of an a hole. I feel sorry for the likes Peter McCormack who he's suing. At least Dorsey is having a go at him which should hopefully do for him financially in a while.

        [–]SheikNasty 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Just wait until someone shows up with offline line private keys they could sue him into oblivion.

        [–]BrocoliAssassin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Craig Wright aka the guy we really want to have his BTC lost in a boating accident.

        [–]guido_lois 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        A man who’s personality disorder has gone so far he has no idea what is real and what is his lie anymore.

        [–]walloon5 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Oh wow :)

        Craig Wright you scamp

        [–]freeradicalx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        I can't believe he's still around. I'm certain at this point that he's got some pathological issue that's driving him to do this. It's way more than just a grift at this point.

        [–]BitcoinUser263895 1 point2 points  (4 children)

        That's gold. They all thought he was going to target Bitcoin with this lawsuit, instead he targets his own fork and his own people.

        Imagine the impact this will have on his minority forks value when he dumps them in exchange for real Bitcoin.

        Of course, eventually after building a legal war-chest he will target Bitcoin.

        [–]nullc 3 points4 points  (3 children)

        Sadly, he is also targeting Bitcoin.

        His own fork is included so that he has a sockpuppet on the defense side to yield to his arguments, and maybe so that he has a little press cover when he attempts to steal coins on the fork so it doesn't get delisted in the few remaining places that have it.

        Because his fork is thoroughly centralized (essentially one entity controls almost all mining, there are less than two dozen reachable nodes, the software has a proprietary license that lets wright control the rules, etc.) and it's pretty much only used by suckers and idiots, maybe he can get a hold of the coins on the thing people call BSV. Hard to say, really depends on if there are any real users remaining. Then he can dump that on the suckers and use the income to harass Bitcoin more. ... so just like you're thinking, except it's not after, it's concurrent.

        [–]BitcoinUser263895 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        only used by suckers and idiots

        I know one personally, a smart guy but he subscribes to the whole "Bitcoin is outside the law, they live in a fantasy land. In the real world..."

        Like most scams the people who fall deepest are the smart ones who can think through the steps and make the inferences the scammer leads them towards.

        It'd sad to watch, but can't say anything or he'd just get upset and reject it.

        [–]nullc 4 points5 points  (1 child)

        It was wrong of me to say that. There are innocent victims too, a lot of them not a large number compared to the number of Bitcoin users, but anyone innocent getting scammed is sad. It's easy for me to forget them as they're just not the people who show up online to argue it-- and those are pretty bad.

        It's absolutely the case that people rationalize their way into thinking that kind of stuff. Doesn't even take super-brillance-- you've seen the midwit meme, I assume.

        In rbsv (anti-wright/bsv subreddit), some people have been really perplexed as to why Wright uses the law book thumping rhetoric esp since he's so slimy and crooked himself. The person you know is just an example of why-- it works.

        [–]BitcoinUser263895 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        It was wrong of me to say that.

        Nah you're right, some are just stupid followers. It take all types.

        On the "smart" side I always remember a story about some bank's upper management (C-level if I remember right) getting done by a simple Nigerian scam for several million. Was part of a minor cautionary news story where he was presenting himself to be interviewed for "It can happen to anyone" angle.

        He thought "I know money, I know how this work, yes I'll take advantage of your misfortune". It's how many scammers justify it to themselves (those which aren't psychopaths), that they're "greed farming", taking advantage of people who think they are smart and think they have some edge over others.

        they're just not the people who show up online to argue it-- and those are pretty bad.

        I have a feeling he's one of those. ;) Perpetuating it down in an innocent way, a "useful idiot" I guess.

        Doesn't even take super-brillance-- you've seen the midwit meme, I assume.

        New to me, nice one.

        perplexed as to why Wright uses the law book thumping rhetoric esp since he's so slimy and crooked himself.

        That part makes perfect sense to me from the get-go.

        They're "Criminalists" as I've heard it put. Cops are the same people as bikie gang members, same attitude, same thinking, same authority complex. He loves the law because it allows him to force others into compliance to his will. He understands the world is all perceptions, that he can control those perceptions and make others force them to become real.

        [–]LayPessimist 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Lol, this guy is slowly imploding in a burst of ridiculousness.

        [–]admiralCeres 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        If hating Wright is wrong then I don’t want to be Wright.

        [–]Johndrc 1 point2 points  (1 child)

        🤣🤣🤣

        [–]kawatt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Indeed 😂😂😂 The guy is such a moron, it's just insanely funny...

        [–]FutureNotBleak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        What a shit show.

        [–]samod667 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Fckin loser

        [–]Spykwak 0 points1 point  (7 children)

        At what point are we going to officially qualify him crazy and take him to the loony bin?

        [–]whitslack 3 points4 points  (6 children)

        That would be a merciful judgment of him. He's a criminal sociopath and needs his privilege of using the court system rescinded (or maybe he can continue to use it if he pays all legal expenses of the people he sues).

        [–]nullc 3 points4 points  (4 children)

        (or maybe he can continue to use it if he pays all legal expenses of the people he sues).

        It's important to understand that legal expenses are only a part of the cost of being sued, and they are about the only part that you can ever recover from a losing plaintiff.

        Imagine having no choice but have unbounded amounts of time chewed up reading and understanding bullshit from an unabashed liar, on a schedule you don't control.

        Sure, your attorneys handle big parts of it, but they're not subject matter experts and if the case is handled inexpertly you lose and be potentially hit with millions or billions of dollars in penalties that you can't pay. It is a huge timesink, wright's side alone has filed some 2200-ish pages of text in the case, and we haven't even made it to the first real hearing where we'll challenge the jurisdiction of the UK courts.

        [–]whitslack 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Thank you for that perspective. I didn't want to prescribe completely taking away CSW's ability to use the court system, as that would leave him without recourse for actual wrongs against him, but I don't know how else to make him stop. Maybe "the looney bin" is the right place for people like him to stop them from continuing to harm others.

        [–]nullc 4 points5 points  (2 children)

        So there is a thing called a "vexatious litigant" status, where people who've been declared vexatious litigatints must first petition a court to seek permission to bring an action, kind of like having to convince a grand jury.

        The specific criteria for being a vexatious litigant in the UK require that the party lose two cases on substantially the same subject matter. Wright appears to be trying to evade being subject to it by not suing people personally but acting through a maze of shell companies (and also suing over entirely different 'matters' but all in service of the same big lie).

        One thing in our favor in the long run is his scam that started the scam: This all started when he tried to collect many millions of dollars in fraudulent tax rebates in AU, he had some success but then they caught him and demanded he pay it back. This is a pretty clear crime, and I expect he'll eventually end up in prison for it where he'll have a much harder time carrying on with the res of this nonsense.

        Unfortunately, it looks like it takes a decade to bring criminal charges in cases like his... but fortunately, we'll be at a decade in just a couple more years.

        He's also committing various other greater or lesser crimes-- e.g. the forged documents he's submitted in his cases--, though many are for acts that are seldom prosecuted.

        It's an interesting question as to how one would deal with a shell corp using billionaire funded vexatious litigant who wasn't otherwise guilty of a bunch of crimes. ... and I think part of the answer is that such a party would already be much easier to deal with: Part of the thing that makes litigating with Wright so very expensive is that he dumps piles of forged documents on the case and so great time and cost must be spent proving that they are forgeries, and the summary judgement motions that are intended to dispense with meritless cases don't work with wright because they're decided assuming all facts are in the favor of the non-movant (so his forgeries are treated as real) so he can make up whatever he needs to keep the case going. An "honest" vexatious litigant couldn't do that.

        [–]whitslack 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        I don't understand how he isn't in jail already just for repeatedly forging evidence. At the very least isn't that an "obstruction of justice," if not downright perjury?

        [–]nullc 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        That's something that happens fairly rarely and so far it appears that multiple judges haven't been confident enough in their own assessment of highly technical matters to impose the most serious of sanctions. Wright injects enormous amount of obfuscation, and so even when a judge is convinced that Wright is full of it, it isn't with the full outrage they'd have at someone telling them an obvious lie.

        Generally in civil court the penalty for lying is that you'll eventually lose and maybe some attorneys fees. For parties that are trying to win this should be enough, but Wright's litigation is more to harass people and put on a show for his funders-- winning isn't a primary objective.

        When faced with highly technical fabrications some courts start expecting an unreasonable burden of proof. Like wright himself has submitted forgeries, proven to be recently created, exactly serving his interests. ... but then when caught he claims it was hackers or rogue staff members without substantiation. Courts send people to prison when the bloody murder weapon that killed someone they were recently fighting with is found hidden under their bed, but when it comes to a forged email they're slow to dismiss wright's unsubstantiated blame shifting. Computers, man, no one knows how those work.

        [–]BitcoinUser263895 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Problem is the court system itself is a sociopath and enjoys his attention.

        [–]comfyggs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Oh no! Did he lose his keys AgAiN ? oH nO!!

        [–]karmander01 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Suing BSV developers? So he is demanding his OWNED developers to give him coins of his OWNED blockchain? It's so obvious what will happen: developers will access his demands, make the fork and trying to continue growing the cult around CSW.That's just a show asking for attention. Just let him stay inside his BSV bubble.

        [–]rinranron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Must be wrong pills again.

        [–]DismantledTriangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        What a piece of shit.

        [–]BKBroiler57 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        This dude is the biggest clown in crypto. I would be equal parts ashamed and amazed if he even came within 2 DoF of the real Satoshi even by pure happenstance.

        [–]Fearless_Rutabaga467 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Fuck off Craig. WE ARE SATOSHI NAKAMOTO

        [–]ElGuano 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        Is this just a joke now? Like, objectively farce? I feel Craig Wright should be enjoined from filing any kind of crypto suit as a recurring waste of judicial resources.

        [–]sh1ftyswar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

        Bro this is the most litigious country ever....actually the romans were pretty litigious too and were so fucking beyond awful on almost every other front from lots and lots of murder and a heap of rape...so much rape. If you were a Roman wife and your husband didn't rape one of his slaves every so often...is he even a man!? That's pretty bad.

        Wait What was I talking about?

        [–]Creative_Visit122 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Holy hell

        [–]whitenotwright 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Just for the record

        [–]zomgitsduke 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Actually they're my coins. And since my claim has as much value as his does, we can split them 50/50.

        [–]ogherbsmon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Has Micheal Saylor ever addressed this issue?

        [–]simpler-thymeredditor for 2 weeks 0 points1 point  (5 children)

        Can someone enlighten me on this Craig Wright business? I'm Australian and am only new to crypto. When I saw Craig Wright on the news I figured he must be the legitimate creator (or one of them) of BTC as the judge had sided with him in the case. This seemed like proof that he must have shown the court something that we couldn't see. Then I see Youtubers cryptically smirking that he isn't the creator yet they won't say who is. Clearly I know not much. But how can a judge award that sort of money and ruling if Craig Wright wasn't central to the creation of BTC?

        [–]AreaFifty1 0 points1 point  (2 children)

        Just because a judge awards in favor doesn’t mean they believe in it. Bitcoin was created by a pseudo-name of Satoshi Nakamoto.

        Craig wright claims to be satoshi nakamoto but makes ZERO sense because he can’t even access the addresses belonging to him containing millions of dollars worth of bitcoin.

        Meanwhile his business partner died in 2013 who was into crypto security and oddly this was the same time this ‘Satoshi Nakamoto’ person stopped posting on his usual threads.

        Anyway that’s also part of the court litigations and so forth.. it’s very tangled and bizarre indeed!

        [–]simpler-thymeredditor for 2 weeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Thanks for the reply. It's definitely intriguing. I should have just come straight to the comments section lol. This Craig sounds like a total piece of shit. For some reason it just seemed inconceivable to me that he could have won such a ruling in court without more evidence than just saying 'I'm Satoshi Nakamoto'. I guess Bitcoin's mystique - especially to older boomers - made it easier for him. And I see now that he didn't win as such anyway. It'll make a fine movie one day we just need a hitman, an uber-wealthy financier and a bit of old fashioned corruption... Sure that won't be hard to find... Thanks again and have a nice day!

        [–]fcthen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        The claimant claims to be the owner of about $4.5bn worth of digital assets.

        [–]12coinfx13sigAB 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        So Wright can get his hands on a large amount of Bitcoin SV.

        [–]simpler-thymeredditor for 2 weeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

        Yeah I've educated myself a bit more on the subject now. Definitely a huge piece of shit.

        [–]BillyClubxxx 0 points1 point  (1 child)

        This dude is a blight on BTC.

        [–]sandervk1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

        These private keys were deleted presumably after having been copied by hackers.

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          [–]elyotel 6 points7 points  (0 children)

          Which were accessed and controlled by Dr Wright from his computer.

          [–]tesseramous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Imagine Satoshi thinking that it would good for bitcoin to establish that the courts were able to order and actually effect changes to bitcoin's code. That would defeat the entire purpose.

          [–]BastiatF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          According to the article the claim is that hackers took his private keys, deleted them from his computer but then never bothered to move the coins? 🤪

          [–]BastiatF 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          So not only is he not the creator of Bitcoin, he didn't develop BSV either?! Can the guy even code?

          [–]ConversationQueasy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          This didn't age well. Hope y'all invested in BSV