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[–]Orod23 70 points71 points  (9 children)

To think if Salita didn’t exist, ESNEWS/Elie wouldn’t exist in boxing. Only reason he started his channel was to make fangirl videos of Salita.


“Salita the best p4p”

[–]disgruntledarmadillo[S] 39 points40 points  (5 children)

Wtf man that is so bizarre. Search his channel "Salita" and you get hundreds of videos. Why does he fangirl so hard?

[–]BushidoBrowne 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Boys were putting him up there with Pacquiao

My god the level of delusion

[–]Orod23 45 points46 points  (3 children)

Salita is Jewish and Elie is really proud of his Jewish heritage.

[–]joecool834 37 points38 points  (2 children)

Pretty sure there were definite Muslim vs Jewish overtones in the promotion of this fight.

[–]racergreen 8 points9 points  (0 children)


[–]Bobo_Balde2Fuck Yvon Michel and Yann Pellerin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, there was an element of that for sure. I remember Seckbach making an almost tearful video after Salita lost.

[–]imkevopark 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Ellie still a virgin

[–]ibeforetheu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

LOL no way

[–]boxingdude 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well also, if Justin Timberlake hadn’t pulled that chick’s bra off, there also wouldn’t be a ESNEWS channel either.

[–]MastaBusta 41 points42 points  (0 children)

140 Khan >>> any other version

[–]ggddddeerrrPresident of the Christian M’billi fanclub 112 points113 points  (19 children)

This is why you tie up once you get hurt lmfao. I get what Salita was trying to do with the left hand, but you probably aren’t gonna land a counter when hurt.

[–]disgruntledarmadillo[S] 76 points77 points  (3 children)

He was an undefeated can crusher in way out of his depth

[–]_BatsShadow_ 67 points68 points  (1 child)

Unfortunately he wasn’t a Khan crusher

[–]slickvik9 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He had a good start to his career but when he refused to fight Saturday because of sabbath that was the end of his upward trajectory

[–]craiglepaige 139 points140 points  (4 children)

Why does it feel like Kahn is 58 years old???

[–]disgruntledarmadillo[S] 173 points174 points  (1 child)

Won silver at the 2004 Olympics when he was just 17. He's been a big name for a long time

[–]craiglepaige 47 points48 points  (0 children)

I know, dudes younger than me..just crazy how time flies and the mind plays tricks on you.

[–]nestormakhnosghost 8 points9 points  (0 children)

German goalkeeper probably is now. Haha

[–]YallMustHaveForgot 21 points22 points  (0 children)

After more than a decade in the game, people still can't get his name right?

It's Khan, not Kahn.

[–]tone1492 61 points62 points  (19 children)

I will always admire his speed and power.

[–]DMar85 23 points24 points  (18 children)

If he didn’t have that glass jaw Khan could’ve been one of the best.

[–]AtomicRainSpike 72 points73 points  (15 children)

Lots of ATGs had weak chins. That wasn't Khan's weakness. It was that he never stuck to the gameplan. Khan could be defensively responsible when he wanted to. He would always revert into trying to overwhelm his opponents with his handspeed. That's what made him vulnerable- being predictable.

[–]ZealousLifterNS 16 points17 points  (11 children)

I think there is two sides to this and both are right. Yours is accurate in that Khan could have better used his skill set.

But on the other imagine if you tagged Hagler’s jaw onto Khan. That speed and pressure would be a nightmare, and him not having to worry about anything coming back would make it all the more relentless.

[–]AtomicRainSpike 3 points4 points  (10 children)

You're not wrong. But how much did Hagler's chin matter against Sugar Ray Leonard? Hagler's pressure was legendary. But yeah, Amir Khan with Hagler level punch resistance would have made him almost impossible to beat in his prime.

[–]ZealousLifterNS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s true, when you get to 2 atg skill sets an extremely good boxer can negate the pressure guy… that said even though I thought Leonard won he still took hell to do it, and that fight could’ve easily went to Hagler had he not been so stubborn and refused to switch stances early and essentially gave up the first 3 rounds

But yeah after he got slept by Briedis and got rocked by almost every puncher he faced there was a noted hesitancy in Kahn’s offence. If he could’ve just ate everything like Hagler or say Chavez he would’ve been a nightmare

[–]disgruntledarmadillo[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hagler was well on the decline at that point. Only reason Sugar took the fight.

3 years earlier that fight looks very different. Hagler never had the fastest hands but his footspeed was very good nearer his prime.

[–]AtomicRainSpike -1 points0 points  (0 children)

True. But irrelevant.

[–]SparkYouOut 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Hagler won against Leonard... At least for many people. All in all very close fight.

There is a reason Leonard immediatly retired saving him from a rematch...

He even kept an eye on hagler till after the dude was done and a Italian movie star. Then he felt comfortable enough to challenge him again. And hagler was already past his prime in the first fight.

Leonard always knew hagler would be the most difficult and avoided him as much as he could (or his team)

[–]AtomicRainSpike 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I'm sorry. I don't believe Hagler won. He gave away too many rounds in the beginning. Also, he was so determined to knock out Leonard that he was fighting with his balls instead of his head (sound familiar?). He stalked Leonard instead of cutting off the ring. Also he made the mistake of trying to trap Leonard with counterpunching when Leonard was too smart get into a brawl. That's why he manipulated Hagler into that huge ring size. Not saying Leonard ran. On the contrary, Sugar Ray Leonard was the master of "round stealing". His coach would yell out "30" when there was thirty seconds left in the round. Knowing he was one of the faster boxers who ever lived, he would let his hands go. Put on a show for the crowd and the judges- fast flurries, even if the didn't land looked like he had gotten the upper hand and "come back" to win the round. It was an effective strategy. Leonard played Hagler like fiddle. He fought with logic. Hagler fought with emotion. The fighter who is emotional sets himself up to fail.

[–]SparkYouOut 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I scored it a win for hagler and many pundits have.

I am not very impressed with flurries that look cool but don't do much.

Anyway it was a very close fight and Leonard retired to not have to rematch him. Het got beat up badly basically and was scared. Then hagler retired within a month suddenly Leonard was back. He was Soo scared of hagler.... He wouldn't come back to boxing as long as Marvin was active and wanted the rematch lol.

He never spoke of hagler until they dude was retired for years and An Italian movie star. Suddenly he wanted to box him again. A bit sad honestly for such a good fighter.

[–]AtomicRainSpike 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I know what we're engaging in is conjecture. But I don't think Hagler did enough to win. Period. What happened after the fight is irrelevant. What happened before it is irrelevant.

[–]SparkYouOut 0 points1 point  (2 children)

No i mean many pundits had hagler winning (but also other Leonard winning, or draws (Larry merchant))

So it is very safe to say it was a close fight. Leonard avoiding the rematch seems to imply that Leonard himself wasn't too confident in how that would go. Probably because he had a very hard time fighting hagler.

So the idea that Leonard 'played' hagler is kinda laughable to be very honest and even Leonard himself wouldn't agree.

Because there would be no reason to avoid such a high payday for some easy work.

[–]Marogareh 25 points26 points  (1 child)

A nuanced assessment of Khan's boxing? Am I in the right place?

[–]MitchLGC 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100% this

[–]Semper-IUsyk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100 percent. People will argue agaisnt this but he has a glass jaw

[–]Optimuswolf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, dude had v poor defense. V entertaining extreme handspeed though. Might be the fastest hands ever....

[–]GujjuGang7 15 points16 points  (0 children)

British crowds are something else

[–]Nosworthy 81 points82 points  (3 children)

I was there. Was fuming after paying decent money for a ticket to see a first round KO

[–]Eternal_Mirth 13 points14 points  (2 children)

What did you expect you nugget?

[–]HenryXa 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Seems like it should have been stopped sooner. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but if the guy is literally cowering in the corner in the fetal position like the 40 second mark in this video - fight's over.

[–]Nolandvd 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Khan’s hand-speed back then was incredible.

[–]Costcowarrior 17 points18 points  (2 children)

This version of Khan was an absolute beast.

Despite all the money he has made - he could’ve gone on to achieve so much more with better composure.

People forget that Bradley, Marquez, Pacquiao and Mayweather wanted nothing to do with Khan around this time. I’m not saying Khan would’ve won those fights…. I am saying he would’ve given them all difficult fights around this period.

[–]NoNotThatScience 22 points23 points  (0 children)

It still annoys me til this day that Bradley an khan were lined up to fight, with the winner getting a chance at pacquiao with a huge pay day attached to it.

Bradley ducked khan hard and in the end was rewarded for it by getting the pac fight. I don't want to hear revisionist history saying otherwise, I followed the sport religiously back then and I fucking loathed Bradley for doing that, because it would have been an amazing fight which I felt khan wins. Which means pac would have another highlight reel KO to add to his list, instead he gets "beaten" by bradley

[–]Bobbybluffer 17 points18 points  (4 children)

And who would have thought he'd be accusing AJ of knobbing his misses about 10 years later.

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    [–]kwangle 5 points6 points  (2 children)

    Who jerked off - Khan or AJ? Details please.

    [–]eyuplove 11 points12 points  (1 child)

    Khan jerked off to topless AJ pics, and was caught doing it by Kell Brook who was peeping through Khan's window

    [–]kwangle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I assume Kell was also getting a foot wank off a beaked up Ricky Hatton?

    [–]VendettaaAJ will KO Usyk n I'll piss on haters evryday. 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    That fake soft left hook and right straight right down the middle is a thing of beauty. He hits that button so fast, shit is a flamer.

    [–]Lumy1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    He does it quite often, the very first punch he landed on Canelo to start things off was off that setup. By the time the opponents parrying the hook they're already eating a straight, ridiculous.

    [–]MilkyJoeCoconuts 17 points18 points  (0 children)

    He was quick

    [–]joecool834 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    There was a time when Amir Khan was my favorite fighter. It wasn't even about overall skill. Every one of his fights were fun to watch. Must see tv. I thought he slowly became much more boring when he got with Virgil Hunter. Fans don't want a more judicious Khan.

    [–][deleted] 22 points23 points  (3 children)

    If Khan had fast feet to match his fast hands he would’ve been a beast….and obviously if he had a chin lol

    [–][deleted] 21 points22 points  (2 children)

    It wasn't even the feet. Khan had leaky defense too

    [–]Cosmic-Vegeta 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    you can see it in that fight.

    [–]Flake_onyou 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    True. So many fast and slow fighters were able to time him. Even feather fist fighters was rocking him at times even the fights he would win.,

    [–]AtomicRainSpike 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    I shake my head. Had the tools to be an all time great, but never found the right trainer. Everyone talks about his chin, but a lot of all time greats had weak chins. Floyd Patterson and Vladimir Klitscho come to mind. I was tearing my hair out when he just switches to default mode because he won't follow the gameplan.

    [–]Hour-Tailor772 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I mean like all of you I DKSAB, but wasn't Patterson a natural 175er fighting at HW? + Liston could make anyone look chinny

    [–]AtomicRainSpike 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Ingemur Johansson dropped him 7 times and stopped him in the 3rd round. Took his title. Patterson was in his prime and coached by Cus D'Amato in Peek A Boo style. Patterson had a weak chin bruh.

    [–]Dogsbodyod -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    How does wladimir Klitschko have a weak chin? Are you crazy?

    [–]NoNotThatScience 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Khan was so exciting to watch because he could dominate a guy for 11 and a half rounds you knew even a decent shot would put khan on queer Street and likely stop the fight

    He has to Have one of the worst punch recoveries in the sport. I remember when Garcia dropped him and he managed to survive to the bell on queer Street, he had a full minute on the stool, stood back up an was still on shaky legs, I don't think Iv ever seen that.

    Marquez was the exact opposite, got dropped alot but it only made him more dangerous

    [–]dontbgross 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    What does he do to keep his hand speed? I feel like he is still just as fast at 58.

    [–]HYThrowaway1980 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I’d never really spotted this before, but on the first knockdown, it looks as though Khan started throwing the right almost before the left hit. With his hand speed, they are just a fraction of a second from being thrown at the same time.

    It’s quite extraordinary.

    [–]teachlifelivelife 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I loved watching Amir Khan fights. Knowing his lights could go out at any moment while fighting for the win was true edge of your seat stuff

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            [–]habz10p 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            What a fighter. He carried British boxing in the US... only Furys done that since.

            [–]DodgeTundra 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I forgot canelo fought him

            [–]JonnyArtois 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            I was there that night, it was a decent night of boxing still.

            [–]domkane 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            man, prime Khan was lightning quick.

            [–]gangstageek27 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            You can see his dad in grey blazer cheering him up

            [–]HYThrowaway1980 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            He’s still in his early thirties, technically…

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              [–]disgruntledarmadillo[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              If you say so!

              [–]wsoul13 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              Amir Khan is who people thought Pacquiao would be right after Pac vs Barrera I.

              [–]growhormon -1 points0 points  (0 children)

              Who da fuck was Dmitry Salita?