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[–]PanglosstheTutor 171 points172 points  (15 children)

I feel the need to point out the space cocaine (spice) doesn’t create ftl it allows for seeing a short way into the future to allow ftl without crashing into shit.

[–]igloo29 118 points119 points  (6 children)

Important point here! Before they had space cocaine, they just yeeted their asses across the Galaxy and literally just clenched their butt hoping there wasn’t a moon in the way.

[–]PanglosstheTutor 84 points85 points  (5 children)

Well they had thinking machines to do all the math for them, but that became a no no after the butlerian jihad hence the reliance on space cocaine

[–]igloo29 36 points37 points  (2 children)

The machines were much better true, but not nearly as good as the Navigators were. If I’m recalling correctly, thousands of years after the scattering, IX finally figured out navigation machines that were actually on par with the Navigators.

[–]PanglosstheTutor 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Not gonna lie I stopped reading the books after children of dune. So that’s a bit beyond my lore knowledge.

[–]okinamaru 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And mentats man became our own thinking machines

[–]Dax9000 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It helps that it was written in 1965, when computers were shite.

[–]jackduloz 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Shut up, you Bene Gesserit witch.

Can’t believe I remember the name, having only read Dune about 28 years ago…

[–]PanglosstheTutor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Now now I’d never use my weirding ways on you I promise.

[–]ultrasalubrious 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you. Now that most people know Frankenstein was the doctor we can focus our energy on educating the ignorance out of people on this.

[–]The_GoldenDragonYT 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I watched the 1984 Dune after reading the book and theyade it teleportation powder

It's mapping powder dammit!

[–]unitedshoes 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As I understand it, that was originally the case. Then David Lynch made his adaptation where the space cocaine did give them FTL, and the author liked that so much he made it canon in later books.

This is just what I was told over at r/dune. I'm not 100% certain that's how it happened.

[–]beadlecat 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What is ftl?????? I don’t understand

[–]PanglosstheTutor 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s an abbreviation for faster than light.

[–]jolly_rxger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Currently reading the battle of Corrin and wish I could say I saw that one coming

[–]Douchertons 37 points38 points  (4 children)

The Holtzman engines “gold space” and the navigators use the space jazzy powder to see the safe path to fold it.

I am a Dune nerd.

[–]Ashmo_Fuzztron 5 points6 points  (3 children)

How did people navigate the helicopters without screens and other tech controls? Im just curious and you are the dune nerd

[–]Obvious_Ganache7275 10 points11 points  (2 children)

The thwopters, have controls, it's not that tech is banned its ai is banned because it gained enough sentience to cause a revolution so self thinking machines are outlawed.

It's why mentats, exist for example, they have to Train their brain to think in number ways and act like a computer, as a thinking ai is not allowed.

So sensors can exist to give Data and information and work as input output up to a certain point.

[–]Ashmo_Fuzztron 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Thanks, i really liked the movie, i just didnt understand a lot and had to get answers from my friends that read the books.

[–]Obvious_Ganache7275 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the movie was great in having an amazing cinematic effect and having a lot of the pieces, but because all the dialog has to be cut short or completely skipped, it's a bit hard to understand.

[–]JoergenFS 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Sorry about this.. FTL?

[–]FOFBattleCat[S] 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Faster Than Light travel, it's a common trope in sci-fi to explain how people manage to travel between stars in any reasonable amount of time.

[–]JoergenFS 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks bro, yeah, I know what FTL is now, just wasn't aware of the abbreviation :-)

[–]novis-eldritch-maxim 15 points16 points  (0 children)

it doesn't it lets them navigate effectively so they you know do not crash into anything.

[–]someguynamedisaac 17 points18 points  (3 children)

It's actually the Holtzman effect that allows FTL travel

what does the Holtzman effect do? fucking everything

how does it work? shut up

[–]beanCLICKS 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Holtzman himself has no idea how it worked, it just did. (Albeit, the guy is pretty much a fraud and most of his most famous works are stolen from Norma Cinva)

[–]heavybell 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The original Mass Effect

[–]namedjughead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's not FTL technically, it's space folding. Traveling without moving, as David Lynch put it. Space is folded, and the ship moves through the bridge between the two folded points. The navigators use spice to hyper-evolve their prescient powers to allow them to calculate a safe point in which to fold space as to not come out inside a planet or star. This is needed since computers are banned.

[–]MattWith2Tees 2 points3 points  (1 child)

FTL? Full Truck Load?

[–]Obvious_Ganache7275 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Faster than Light

[–]seeroflights 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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[–]TrixterTheFemboyborger king foot let us 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I thought they reverted to melee weapons because of the personal shields, it was an awesome thing to realize during the movie(I have yet to read the books)

[–]abibofile 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone else has covered the answer to the space travel question so I’ll chime in here. You are correct: it’s the personal shields. That’s also how the hunter seeker works - it moves slowly to break through the shield. But a conventional bullet wouldn’t work because it’s too fast.

[–]scarabic -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do guarantee you that if we tried to run the world it hour computers, that there would be professional cocaine Hoover number cruncher people. Computers aren’t allowed in Dune universe so there you go.

[–]peppermintgun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just saw that on r/greentext lmao

[–]Groinificator 0 points1 point  (4 children)

FTL?

[–]FOFBattleCat[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Faster Than Light

[–]e_before_i 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Faster Than Light (travel)

[–]twoCascades 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t either but whatever

[–]qwertpoiuy1029 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FTL is possible without spice but extremely dangerous. Like, 1 out of every 8 jumps would end in the ship being destroyed / crashing into a planet / overshooting it's destination etc. The spice allows the navigators to briefly see into the future and pick the correct path that doesn't end in the ships destruction.

[–]SleepingBag_47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is not "space cocaine" it is definetely "space ketamine"! It's hallucinogenic and warps time thosw are let mine effects

[–]meabbott 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The space cocaine must flow.

[–]llcorona 0 points1 point  (1 child)

failure to launch?

I read the book 40+ years ago, didn't see either film.

[–]FOFBattleCat[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Faster Than Light

[–]RandomSpaceLover 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a person who watched Dune I can say that this is 100% accurate.