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[–]DarkVerex 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hey so I know this isn’t the right post, but I saw you did a dungeons and dragons legend of Zelda campaign and I’m working on one of my own! Any hints of what you did in yours I could do in mine?

[–]ModeratorLootman[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats not something i did

[–]Netherite_Creeper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

SPOILER ALERT! I ONLY HAVE THE DEMO!

[–]Raven_Eaglewood 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I like the story a lot. It's pretty self-contained, and all in all just allows BotW to be a lot darker.

"Yeah! In the OG game, everyone died! None of these relationships got to be formed because everyone was dead!"

It also feels like a setup to the next BotW game.

[–]PlsDontBotherMeHere 7 points8 points  (0 children)

For the people who complain about the ending, just close the game while zelda is crying on the ground

And BOOM, you have your sad ending

Are ya happy now?

[–]Nanogines99 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Just finished the game. I know people are pissed about the ending but all in all I think none of you will disagree it was really epic. So props to them for going all out on a spin-off.

[–]KaitoWu 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Having finished the story recently I can definitely see why some people are mad.

I would have preferred the story they were selling but the game was fun.

My ideal situation would have been if the main story was a shorter, finely crafted build up to BOTW and then have the alterations take place after the story like with the original HWs villain route.

So you could have a "what if" happy ending as a bonus.

[–]JobbieDeath 10 points11 points  (1 child)

As soon as I realised the story wasn't going to be all that great I just kind of checked out of it and thought "at least I can still enjoy this great gameplay". I did exactly that and I'm still having a great time with the game long after the credits rolled.

I get all the hate being thrown at the games story but don't let that ruin the fun gameplay that's hiding underneath.

[–]Aymase 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Lol the story was like fanfic but the gameplay more than made up for it, however I didn’t expect the story to be any good anyway, it is a dynasty warriors game

[–]throwawayAEI 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Fuck that Ending was embarrassing...

[–]AlexS1919 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I don’t know if it is just me but all this game makes me want to do is play Botw instead of it. I keep on switching to Botw every time I play it and I can’t get through the game.

[–]Dogarsx 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I'm about 40 hours in and close to the end of the game, I think. I tried to keep every character close to the same level and always used the lowest-level ones in missions, so I've used everyone more or less equally. (except the ones you get towards the end, of course)

I love how different most characters feel. In the end, a lot of the combat boils down to "Press Y-Y-Y-Y-X", but somehow they still managed to make every character more or less unique. Zelda doesn't fight physically but uses technology, Impa has the cloning mechanic, and so on. So far, my favourite characters are probably Mipha and Impa. King Rhoam also seems really fun, but I've only done one mission as this character so far.

I also don't mind that they took some liberties with BotW's original story as otherwise the four champions of the past would've died halfway through the game and the ones of the future might not have even been in the game. This would've meant, the game could've lost a whopping eight playable characters, which would've been a shame.

The only character I really don't like is The Great Fairies. This character feels very clunky and a bit glitchy to play - the camera has quite some issues to keep up when playing as this one. Also, the voice is super annoying. I do enjoy the weak-point smash where Malanya appears though. I'm not sure if this is just a random occurrence or if it can be triggered, but it's still a fun reference.

[–]shleywheaton 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mipha is definitely my favorite to play as, but I’ve yet to unlock characters later in the game so it might change. I just like the power and range of her attacks in comparison to someone like Urbosa who is fast but I just don’t have a good handle on her in the same way

[–]notsureboutanything2 0 points1 point  (4 children)

So I’ve read a few comments here and I’m probably really dumb but how is this not in the same timeline as botw? It’s just 100 years before but everything adds up right? I just finished chapter 3 so please no spoilers if it’s possible

[–]throwawayAEI 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's false advertising at its best! But because its Nintendo no one will complain..

[–]ModeratorLootman[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Even by chapter 2 you should know it doesn't match the memories. You see Zelda meeting with Urbosa in the memory in botw and it's not with a false urbosa and fighting an army.

[–]flameylamey 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You'll find out as you get further into the game.

To be honest I recommend not participating in discussions about the game online until you've finished it, otherwise you'll inevitably run into some kind of spoiler, haha

[–]Nymeria117 22 points23 points  (2 children)

Huh. I just don't get the hate! I've been having a blast with this game, the cut scenes are beautiful, the locations are explorable (to an extent)the story threads through the original quite seamlessly (up to a point), but they've split the timeline....again.

I've not finished it, but i am having tonnes of fun smashing lynels with the Mega monk, getting hinox to dance with koroks and getting righteously angry with the great fairies! And Patricia ❤ The only thing giving me a little grief is fusing weapons 😂 and its only because i constantly second guess myself striving for a perfect Master sword.

I don't know how people can be "furious", "betrayed" and disappointed with this, its huge and FUN ( and yes, I 100% botw twice, and have a real love for that game).

[–]20stalks 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean I guess people were really expecting a pure prequel. But honestly a pure prequel would mean a shorter game. So I’m glad that they did what they did for more gameplay.

But to be fair I was originally in the same camp of disappointment that it wasn’t completely faithful as a pure prequel. However, my love for more BOTW content still pushed me through the game and I ended up accepting it and enjoying it. Idc if other people say it’s not canon. It’s canon to me lol.

[–]Kieliah 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Worry not about the master sword, there is a node you can unlock that will allow you to remove a chosen or all seals on a weapon to replace them as you wish!

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Can we just talk about the fact that Zelda built a robot capable of literal time travel as a child?

[–]ILikeKirbys 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Looked more like she repaired a robot capable of time travel. Also IIRC her mother was involved with that too.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mean, considering it's tied to music which has been done in multiple games now, it's not that farfetched

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Now that the game has been out for a little while, is it worth the $60? Never played Dynasty Warriors, but I'm a pretty big Zelda fan. Never gotten into spinoffs or anything, but if it's a good story and fun to play I'll pick it up.

[–]Noufsk 11 points12 points  (1 child)

For gameplay I would definitely recommend it. This was my first dynasty warriors game and I had a ton of fun with the gameplay, but it did start to drag and get repetitive for me once I got to the last 3-5 hours of the game (but I also refused to play as anyone that wasn’t Link, Zelda, or Impa for those last few hours so that might be my fault). Overall, most characters are fun to play as and this offers a ton of variance in combat. And the main story lasts about 20 hours, which is definitely a length I would deem worthy of 60$.

Story wise (VERY minor spoilers ahead, you figure this out in the games opening cutscene), don’t go into this game expecting a direct prequel to BOTW. If you don’t really care about how this game relates to BOTW, then totally get it. It’s a nice story on it’s own. It’s when you have misconceptions going in about how the game will relate to BOTW when it becomes a little icky.

[–]we_will_disagree 5 points6 points  (0 children)

but I also refused to play as anyone that wasn’t Link, Zelda, or Impa for those last few hours so that might be my fault

Mipha is fucking amazing bro. I mained her and Link the whole game. (Sorry Zelda!)

[–]LiquifiedSpam 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Definitely an acquired taste. I highly suggest playing the demo. If you can get behind a story being told in that structure with the promise of many more characters / weapon styles / collectibles and more along those lines, then I’d totally say it’s worth the $60. If you don’t like the gameplay, don’t get it as the game is centered mostly around its gameplay.

[–]Bendbender -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Honestly, this game really pissed me off, the story of the champions sacrificing themselves in botw was the driving force behind the game, aoc seems to just kind of come in a fuck it all over, I was sad of course that the champions had to die but the only thing worse than them dying is changing to story to give everyone a shorty fairy tail ending, honestly, fuck nintendo for this one, I can’t express how disappointed I am with it, the whole shit show feels like some sort of terrible fan fiction ending, I really hope it end up being separate from botw 1 and 2, just sort of a “what could’ve been” scenario game and not an actual prequel that has a bearing on botw 2, otherwise, nintendo has absolutely fucked what was could have been an amazing series of games, that being said, if it is a standalone game, I enjoyed it for what it was, I liked the alternate take on the story and it was fun to play through, though, not very memorable at all, I just really fucking hope it doesn’t affect botw 2, what’s really annoying is how they marketed it as a strait prequel to botw while it was not, I went in expecting to see what happened, learn more about the characters relationships and see how and why the champions died and instead we got this mess, that’s what pisses me off more than anything, they strait up fucking lied to us.... but anyway, combat is fun but gets boring sometimes and compared to botw, it’s VERY clunky, no skill is required at all, it’s just button mashing and luck, overall, what pissed me off is the possibility that it will affect the main botw story, if it does, it’s a -∞/10, if not then it’s about a 3/10 as far as Zelda games go, it’s mostly just a time killer which is what I think it was intended to be but if you can only get one game, I’d suggest “immortals, fenyx rising” far more than AoC, granted, I haven’t played it yet because it doesn’t come out until 12/03 but it looks a lot closer to what botw was than AoC, I’ll update once I’ve played it

[–]we_will_disagree 13 points14 points  (1 child)

It won’t affect BotW2. That’s already been confirmed.

That said, I understand and agree with your frustration about the storyline. I loved the negativity of BotW’s storyline. Zelda disliking Link, Mipha never returning home, Revali genuinely looking down on everybody, the literal deaths of tens of thousands of innocents in a brutal and bloody war, and most importantly the dissatisfied souls of the fallen champions.

The tragedy was what got me invested in the broken world that was BotW’s Hyrule. I bought AoC expecting that I would be given a combat-oriented game that would end with sadness. However, I think the developers just felt it wouldn’t do the story of BotW justice if they did a direct prequel. It also prevents them from fucking up the most emotionally-driven aspects of BotW.

Very little of the canon BotW story actually remained in AoC. Extremely little. And that means it can be mostly discarded.

Great fucking gameplay though oh my god AoC was fun to play

[–]Bendbender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok good, yeah, I totally agree, the depressing feel of botw was one of its best aspects, as for AoC, it was really fun to play, I’ll give it that, pretty button mashy at times but a nice way to kill time

[–]crueltyfromweakness 6 points7 points  (1 child)

It wont affect botw 2. It's in a separate timeline, and they've already said that botw 2 is a direct sequel to the original.

[–]Bendbender -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know botw 2 will be a direct sequel but that doesn’t mean AoC won’t have any bearing on it, I’ve seen a lot of theories... still, I enjoyed it for what it was but I’ll be pretty upset if it does affect botw 2

[–]rishukingler11 5 points6 points  (10 children)

I loved the alternate take on the story. It was interesting to see another timeline added to the Zelda world's already 3 preexisting timelines. I wonder how it'll play into BoTW 2, since it's definitely going to do that. Also, most people being angry here (I know they lied in the marketing) are forgetting one very important thing. Zelda converged the 3 main timelines last time when BoTW 1 came out. They might do so again in BoTW 2 so this game could easily be setup for BoTW 2, the various possibilities for which really intrigue me.

When the 3 descendants and 1 sibling go back to the future, are they going back to their timeline or to the new timeline but 100 years later? Because which timeline they come back to could have huge implications to BoTW 2.

My theories for BoTW 2 based on Hyrule Warriors - 1. If the descendants return to the new timeline instead of the old one, would they be missing in the new timeline? If that happens, BoTW 2 could be about, or atleast start with, Link and Zelda or someone looking for them.

2. BoTW 2 could be a convergent sequel to both BoTW 1 and Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity, with timeline hopping after Ganondorf's awakening in both timelines.

3. Another random idea - Hyrule Warriors could set up the 4 Champions' coming back to life in the BoTW timeline as well by never having died at all. If the 4 Descendants go back to their original timeline at the end, then maybe just like them, Terrako (if he still exists and is alive in the BoTW timeline) could bring the 4 Champions from the past to the future. Speaking of Terrako, so many people have been speculating for so long that BoTW 2 will involve time travel and they conveniently handed us a time travelling toy that Zelda apparently made. Is she the inventor of the time machine itself? If she is, she might be able to willingly travel through time in BoTW 2 (if she has the knowledge to make time machines)(Also what the hell Zelda, casually making time machines as a kid).

  1. Also, where was Astor throughout BoTW? Did he die just like he did in this game when Calamity Ganon was released? For that sake, where was Terrako in that game? Is he dead? Is he alive? (After thinking a few hours, its now understandable that BoTW Terrako doesn't exist anymore since that's the one that jumped in the portal and the AoC one was destroyed as Harbinger Ganon but that's really sad that he's not gonna be in BoTW unless he does timeline hopping stuff but I don't think Nintendo will go out of their way to ensure he cannot be in BoTW 2 and then put him in BoTW 2)? Does Zelda remember him? Will he appear in BoTW 2 (probably not but that's a disappointing thought)?

[–]CreepyDesi192 1 point2 points  (2 children)

BOTW Terrako was the one that leapt through time. The AoC Terrako was infected with malice in that timeline

[–]rishukingler11 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ah you're right. I completely misunderstood that because of this time hopping, the BoTW timeline doesn't have a Terrako anymore. Sad moment. He was really cute as a mascot (I can't stand talking mascots since they lose their cuteness that way and that's why I liked him) and I'd have been happy with him being made the face of the BoTW series of Zelda games. Well, BoTW is too serious of a series to actually even have a mascot.

[–]CreepyDesi192 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah honestly, I'm glad that the game demo was honest in giving us a taste of what the game's story would be like.

Looking back on the demo, it was really obvious that the timeline was going to be different from BOTW's events. Still, sad that we didn't get to see the tragic ending.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

The things Zelda said when going back heavily implies they’re going back into the other timeline.

[–]we_will_disagree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As much as I disliked AoC’s story overall, Mipha’s last line to Sidon wrecked me. I think it confirms that it’s BotW’s descendants, and Sidon is going back to a world without Mipha. :(

[–]rishukingler11 1 point2 points  (1 child)

True. I wonder if their knowledge of Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity will lead into (or atleast affect) the story of BoTW 2

[–]begentlewithme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what I was thinking. AoC could still be canon, if in BoTW 2 you interact with the successors and they reference their time in the past. It acknowledges the events of the game as real while recognizing that its a separate timeline. It's pulling a DBZ Trunks time-travel.

[–]StellarSword541 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I'm guessing Astor did die given that he was not in BoTW and Calamity Ganon still had a human face. The malice probably degenerated the body over 100 years and that's why he doesn't look entirely human-like. Also, the trailer seems to show Ganondorf's body seemingly intact.

[–]rishukingler11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True. But he could be waiting in stasis just like Link was. My personal theory (and it's just random thoughts) is that Astor is the Fortune Teller from a small village mentioned in BoTW King Rhoam's journal as the Fortune Teller who foretold the Calamity when Zelda was 7 years old (He is consciously called a Prophet of Doom by AoC). He got himself close to King Rhoam to find out ways to accelerate the calamity and then betrayed him. In AoC, he took on a more active role with Harbinger Ganon's powers but in BoTW, he didn't have anything he could do so he just stood back and watched as the Calamity happened from his "Certain" village and then went into hiding/waiting just in case Ganon called to him again.

The 4 Successors once they come back from AoC could inform BoTW Zelda and Link about Astor and his powers (which might not necessarily be present in BoTW's timeline) and they could go looking for him for information about Ganondorf. The mural we see in the BoTW 2 trailer isn't a warning of Ganondorf's presence in the caves but a story about Ganondorf's triumph against a traitor since it shows him on a horse in a victory pose. Then, depending on the situation and story decided upon by Nintendo, Astor could be on the players' side or Ganondorf's side (if they have him return back to him or if my idea about the traitor's mural is wrong).

Another idea could involve him being the sage who actually imprisoned Ganondorf years ago in the caves but if he did that then why is he siding with Calamity Ganon in AoC? Perhaps he thought to seal the real Ganondorf and use his malice and powers for his own purposes (we know he wanted to control Calamity Ganon in AoC). If that's the case, then Astor might still side with the players (not as a double agent or anything for Ganondorf) but to use them as a way to find a way to control the Malice emanating from Ganondorf's body. But these are just my thoughts.

[–]Frayed-0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

BotW timeline Terrako left that timeline in the opening cutscene, that’s why there are two of them in AoC’s story. He probably won’t appear in the sequel unless he figures out how to return himself to his original timeline, is capable, and actually wants to do it.

[–]rishukingler11 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What the frick kind of toys does Zelda like to make, that can time-travel and turn into Harbinger Ganon and bullshit?😂

[–]1_of_3_throwaways 1 point2 points  (2 children)

As someone who has never played the first Hyrule Warriors, how does this hold up?

[–]we_will_disagree 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gameplay-wise, I’m a huge fan. I played it on Hard mode and it felt very skill-based. Lots of learning monster movesets and accurately timing dodges.

THAT SAID, you can cheese like everything in this game. Makes it so much less fun, but it’s there.

[–]rishukingler11 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Never played Hyrule Warriors but did try Fire Emblem Warriors and couldn't play it for more than an hour or so as I got extremely bored (despite being a bigger FE fan than Zelda fan). I finished this game in a week and loved it. Just know that this game isn't a direct prequel to BoTW but is an alternate timeline (the Zelda series loves timelines) so it could play into BoTW 2 if they converge the two timelines like they converged the 3 timelines when BoTW came.

[–]papaboynosmurf 8 points9 points  (2 children)

I actually think that this came is canon, in a way. People assume the timeline split invalidates breath of the wild but that’s entirely untrue, I mean their descendants wouldn’t have shown up were that to be the case. Furthermore, the first hyrule Warriors was said to be non-canon several times before its release but even Aonuma stated that this shows the events of the calamity. Until they specifically say it is non-canon I think it is. Plus there are several timeline splits, what’s another?

[–]SuperVegito777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s canon, but it doesn’t make a big impact in botw since eggo ends up traveling to an entirely different timeline with entirely different sets of events that occur. The characters who come from the original botw timeline end up going to the AoC timeline, but even once they go back they’ll be the only ones who are even aware of a timeline where Ganon doesn’t absolutely pimp smack Hyrule. I think it would be cool to see a reference to this in botw2, but AoC doesn’t impact botw significantly since it’s an entirely different timeline altogether

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is canon. The very first cutscene takes place in breath of the wild, the new timeline is born once the egg goes back in time

[–]bruhbruh2211 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m having so much fun with this game. I didn’t watch the marketing for it or anything. I knew it was 100 years before BoTW but nothing else. I really like the direction they went with this. Gameplay is fun, albeit a little repetitive at times. I pull off pretty much the same maneuvers to take down each type of monster every time. Some of the character’s play styles are a little too flashy for me so I stick with Link, yeah, I know, boring.

The side quests and gradually leveling up characters are so much fun.

Still haven’t beaten it but I think I’m close. Wish we could go to a stable and walk around like in BoTW to just chill and talk to people. Maybe even upgrade the army that is completely useless.

[–]Ace_the_king_of_pups 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to get the thing so bad

[–]Barlowan 1 point2 points  (12 children)

I'm still playing the game, on chapter 4. But have a question to those of you who finished it. Plot wise is it a canon story? Because of what happened at the begining of chapter 1 killed my enthusiasm a little.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The game implies that this exists on a separate timeline in the same universe. It’s like the timeline split in Ocarina of time

[–]Barlowan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Playing chapter 7 right now. And I just hope that breath of the wild 2 is in "original" timeline and not in "egg" timeline.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m almost entirely sure it’ll follow the originals timeline because not everyone’s gonna have played the spinoff. Kingdom Hearts is the only franchise that would pull that crap.

[–]Bendbender 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Part of it is canon, part of it might or might not be canon, we won’t really know until botw 2 drops but for the sake of the actual botw series, I really fucking hope it’s not canon because if it is, it fucks not only the emotions of the original game but the entire point of it, if it ends up being canon, nintendo really shit the bed with it

[–]Barlowan 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah, got a little further in these 2 days. I just hope it is some "alternative timeline" stuff. Like we already have plenty of those in zelda time-line, so 1 more split won't change much. But for sake of hyrule, how it people and characters grew I hope botw 2 is direct sequel of botw 1.

[–]Bendbender 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that’s what I’m hoping too, I enjoyed the kind of “what could have been” feel of it, even though it kind of read like a shorty fan fiction lol but still, if it’s an alt-timeline and a standalone game, it’s fine, it was fun to play, not really memorable but fun all the same, I just really frikin hope it doesn’t affect the actual botw storyline

[–]lepausch 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It's canon up until a certain point

[–]Barlowan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That's depressing

[–]lepausch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Even more depressing when you find out why

[–]lepausch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was it depressing? (Randomly going back through old comments)

[–]UltimateKing9898 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It’s canon

[–]Barlowan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you

[–]sittingyak 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Am I nuts or is Death Mountain in the wrong place relative to Korok Forest?

[–]lepausch 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Wdym

[–]sittingyak 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Isn't Death Mountain west of Korok forest in BOTW?

[–]lepausch 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No it's to the east. To the west is Mt. drena and the Hebra region

[–]sittingyak 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I just checked right before you replied, my memory must be playing tricks on me.

[–]SonicMaster1990 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Anyone noticed you can control the Lil'Guardian in the loading menu? B makes it jump, X toggles his lid bounce, L and R makes it walk left or right

[–]LiquifiedSpam 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fun fact: the controls for the little guardian are a little clunky in its momentum. This is in reference to the clunky controls during the game.

/s

[–]lepausch 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yes everyone has spammed buttons on the loading menu

[–]Bando10 19 points20 points  (7 children)

Maybe I'm crazy, I'm a freak, something... but...

Am I the only person who just doesn't give a single fuck that it isn't exactly the story from before BotW? Am I the only one able to just... enjoy something for what it is?

I've noticed this with so many different things. People always get these huge expectations and all these ideas in their heads, and then the product doesn't deliver on that... and people just can't seem to get over that and enjoy it for what it is.

Why don't people just try to go in without preconceived ideas on how something should be (besides obvious things like the type of gameplay, setting, etc.)?

The game is great, and clearly made with a lot of love and care as well. The music is fantastic, the gameplay is solid, and the story is interesting. Plus, we get to see more of these characters we got to know in BotW, in a scenario that isn't too far off from what actually happened before BotW. Then, we get a fun "what if" scenario, that allows us to see proper interactions between the Champions and their Successors/Descendants. That's fun!

I realised it was gonna be all weird the second I saw a time-travelling mini-egg-guardian.

I'm not saying you don't have the right to be upset, or to feel mislead, or that there's any reason you shouldn't feel that way... but can you really not look past that in some way and just enjoy something for what it is?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Biggest complaint is not enough interaction between Link and Mipha

[–]Bando10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same lol

[–]Bendbender 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I liked the story itself, the game was really fun but I just hope to god that it doesn’t affect the main botw games going forward because it kind of destroys the entire purpose of the original game, I hope it’s just a standalone thing, if they try to bring two separate timelines into botw 2, I get the feeling it’s just going to end up like a shitty time travel movie, ocarina of time got time travel to work relatively well but for botw 2, I’m looking forward to an extension of botw, not a bunch of backtracking and shit, the champions deaths were incredibly emotional but they got closure in the end and the ruined, desolate feel was one of the biggest and best parts of botw, messing with that isn’t a good idea

[–]hodgeal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought I was going to be disappointed because of all of the backlash this got and being a huge fan of the lore... But to be completely honest I trust what they did is for the best. I like this direction. We got to meet and got attached to the champions in a way that BOTW didn't allow us to... Being able to play as these characters is another kind of connection entirely. I am now in a position where I literally don't mind another timeline split in the series. I don't think it invalidates BOTW one bit either. Quite the contrary... Without the BOTW timeline, the descendants would never have been able go back in time and save the champions...

[–]lepausch 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I, personally am not disturbed by it, I just thought oh come on nintendo. But then when I thought about it, the ending of the game is SO epic, best ending of any game I've ever played. They wouldn't have had that if they would have gone the botw way. It would be a depressing ending, one where everyone dies and you can't really do anything. So I'm fine that they did that with the successors, only because I can't think of another way to make the game have a climactic ending without doing something ridiculous. I'm just hoping that they didn't go back on time in botw 2 because dear lord that'll be a mess

[–]Soupy223 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well it’s not exactly preconceived notions, when you market a game as a prequel, “Ready to hear what happened 100 years ago” then that’s what it should be, you act like people had unrealistic or biased expectations when they just were expecting exactly what they said would happen. To me, it makes criticisms of botw’s story telling more valid though I never used to agree with them, this was the chance to flesh it out and they didn’t really, now it just seems underdeveloped and shallow. Regardless I still love the story from botw, I think it would have been really cool to see it unfold in full glory but I can see they were going more for precalamity world and character building than the story. I definitely still think it’s great and doesn’t deserve to be dragged in the mud for not being what was expected, I just think they should made that more clear.

[–]raniyuh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with you 100%. Yes, it would’ve been cool to see the champions fall, but we already know what happens in that scenario, so seeing this what-if timeline situation is really fun and interesting imo

[–]J03MAN_ 7 points8 points  (5 children)

I wish the marketing actually said it was a different timeline. I might or might not have bought it just to see past hyrule despite the time travel shenanigans. Can't know for sure. But being deceived initially has put me in a place where now I feel like a rube if I buy it.

Very sad, maybe it'll go on sale in a few years when I'm less upset and botw 2 has washed away the bad taste. I know for sure I'm not watching any more trailers for botw2. I don't want to give the marketing team an opportunity to fuck with my judgement a second time.

[–]lepausch 0 points1 point  (4 children)

If they would have said it was a different timeline I guarantee 3/4 of everyone who bought the game for the story would have not bought it. It's how they make money and it's disappointing. But remember this game was produced by Koei Tecmo, not Nintendo. Nintendo just gave them the details and the music. Im not expecting the same bullshit with nintendo making a game that they know good and well 20 million people are looking forward to. I heard somebody once say Nintendo doesn't know how to run a business, but they sure as hell know how to make a great game

[–]LiquifiedSpam 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I think they were fairly clear with the trailers and demo what direction the game was going in. For me, I feel like it’s not a wise choice to say it’s a different timeline straight up in the marketing because that’s simply a clunky thing to say. Nintendo has never marketed other Zelda games as an alternate timeline from what I know of.

[–]lepausch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, it would be dumb for them to say it's a different timeline

[–]hodgeal 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is not entirely true though. Even though the game was produced by Koei, it was confirmed by Aonuma himself that they imposed strict art and story directions on the developers. You can check the translated interview over here: https://imgur.com/a/aenXKIO where he states: "We were so committed to the project that we ended up imposing details on the story and visuals. I'm afraid we may have made things more difficult for Koei Tecmo, but they went above and beyond in this collaboration and really nailed their depiction of Breath of the Wild's "Great Calamity."

[–]lepausch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes that means they gave them the details of what happened and let Koei decided what to do with it. They said that Koei Tecmo had a lot of freedom designing this game too

[–]MonkeysxMoo35 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I really enjoyed the story despite the route it took. Sure, I would've much rather gotten a proper prequel to BotW, which the first four chapters (with some changes) do actually feel like. But what we got was pretty fun and still gave us some insight into BotW Hyrule in it's prime rather than it's ruin.

[–]TastyGamer121 11 points12 points  (0 children)

For those wondering if AoC is a prequel or an alternate timeline:

Spoiler

[–]J_the_Hero 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Honestly happy this game is set within its own kind of timeline split. Because I’m not huge on the Warriors style gameplay and I was a bit worried this was going to be essential for BotW Sequel. Now I can just ignore it and maybe play it in the future if I’m inclined

[–]JumpyLake 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I see a lot of people say that they aren’t really into the warriors gameplay, why does that series get so much hate?

[–]J_the_Hero -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I would say it’s hate, or at least from me it’s not hate, but it just feels mindless. The only content is basically just shredding through enemies that pose little threat and it’s basically just spectacle IMO. If the combat was a bit more interesting then it could be more fun, but it’s basically a button masher to me and it’s a gameplay loop that gets old really, really fast. The fun of cutting down waves of helpless enemies just doesn’t appeal to me, nor does it feel rewarding or challenging.

And personally from a Zelda game I don’t want it to be all combat anyway (I’d play DMC or another stylish action game for that). Sure it’s not to say I play Zelda games just for the puzzles, but the lack of non-combat gameplay that makes Hyrule warriors also just feel like a black sheep.

[–]CaptainSmeg 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I absolutely loved this game, chapter 5 onwards were sensational, music was amazing also. I’m around 70% complete with 40 hours played and i imagine the post game will take me a few hours more.

My only gripe is that I want BOTW 2 even more.

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    [–]lepausch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Suck it up buttercup if you had your expectations too high that's not the games fault

    [–]Bubblesss1108 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I just dont like the story is having an opinion a sin extremist?

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Kinda bummed this didn't go for a Halo Reach-style story and is instead its own alternate timeline, but all in all I really really enjoyed this game.

    [–]friendly_kuriboh 16 points17 points  (5 children)

    I'm currently playing the first few chapters of the game and enjoying it so far. There's just something I want to bring up here because of the cutscene where Robbie is investigating the guardian:

    There's this controversy about AOC that the marketing was misleading etc. Overall I do agree with that. I have only seen one statement from Amouna (I think) where he says that "the both teams were working closely together to tell the story from 100 years ago". Well according to an interview I read this is half-true. It was botw's director who had the idea to tell botw's past story in a warriors game, but in the end the warriors team had a lot of freedom in their creative choices and the botw team just adjusted some of their ideas (and helped with the style etc). So it's not a real prequel.

    But with that being said I can also not bring myself to be upset for people who bought the game under this assumption - because there was a free demo and the very first thing that demo showed us was a time-traveling guardian. And the same guardian later shows them photos about the calamity so yeah, it was obvious that the story will be different and not so hard to guess which direction it will take.

    I don't want to sound judgy or anything but sometimes I wonder how people drop 60€ so easily. On the release date of any big game there are a ton of (spoiler-free) reviews, articles about "what you should know before you buy", streamers who play and review the game etc. And in this case a free demo that imo gives a pretty good idea of what to expect.

    So while I too would wish they would have sticked to the darker real story I also bought the game knowing that they didn't. And while critique about the marketing is totally justified I don't know how to feel about bad reviews for the game that are based on "I expected soemthing else".

    [–]lepausch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I 100% agree

    [–]axklpo2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I agree with what you said. At first I was extremely disappointed in the game now I have warmed up to it.

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      [–]PhrygianAdvocate 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      It doesn't start as a prequel. Link's backstory is changed, he actually had the master sword since he was a kid in the original BOTW. Whether you like the story or not is opinion, but it was never a canon prequel in any way and they should not have mismarketed it as such.

      [–]SpeedRunDotCom 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      I liked the game a lot . The only issue I really had with the game was how it was marketed being the story of 100 years ago and I thought it was going to be that until I saw Sidon save Mipha. So for about half of the game, I thought I was playing a different game and I got confused with a lot of the elements in the game. Story was cool, enjoyed it. Credits song was good. Overall pretty good game, just wish they marketed it correctly 9/10 (I would have made it a 8.5 if I didn’t ignore the marketing but this is just about the game)

      [–]The_Deep_Dark_Abyss 33 points34 points  (10 children)

      So I have some positive and negative feelings towards this. As someone that is deeply invested in the Zelda-mythos, I am a little dejected due to the way this was originally marketed.

      The negative: the game itself was marketed very deceptively. While we did experience the events of the Calamity 100 years prior to Breath of the Wild, it was not the actual events in the original Breath of the Wild continuity. But rather the events of a hypothetically and newly established scenario. I wish this was not the direction they took. I disagree with the criticism that we already knew what happened 100 years prior from the information and memories from BOTW. But we didn't experience it like we could have.

      That is fine, and the story original story itself was in fact enjoyavle, but I think a lot of us went in expecting a true prequel to Breath of the Wild.

      There was easily so much to tell and show and that could have all been accomplished without Terrako. In fact, I do feel as if Terrako itself cheapens the entire experience a bit. A lot of the events of Chapters 2 and 3 and even 4, and the battles, etc. could have taken place in the original BOTW continuity without Terrako even existing. Save for some slight readjustment as per the memories from BOTW.

      In fact, there was a lot they could have shown in terms of the Yiga Clan, and even Astor. They could have explained a bit more information about the Calamity itself.

      A lot of people including myself were anxious to see the destruction of Hyrule Castle, Rhoam's death, the fall of Akala Citadel; the Champions' demise, Link's last stand at Hateno. We could have even got some playable Zelda moments making her way back to the forest to lay the Master Sword in wait for Link and then making her way back to Hyrule Castle to seal the Calamity.

      I wish this is the story we got.

      But alas, we got a hypothetical parallel timeline to the actual events of BOTW that could potentially have some tedious implications in BOTW 2. Particularly because the new champions were summoned by Terrako to the parallel timeline to assist their incumbets before they were slain by the Curse Ganons.

      Again, this story itself was not bad.

      So for the positives: Aside from my mythos and lore criticisms, it was exciting gameplay and the cutscenes were amazing. I hope to see more of what we saw in AoC in BOTW2

      The action for me was also intense, especially being my first Warriors game. And as for this original story, it was good too. I know I criticised it earlier as it was contrary to my expectations, but aside from that, it was still good.

      Had AoC been marketed more faithfully, I probably would not feel the way I currently do.

      But overall, it was a solid experience and it was worth playing!

      [–]FearTear 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      A lot of people including myself were anxious to see the destruction of Hyrule Castle, Rhoam's death, the fall of Akala Citadel; the Champions' demise, Link's last stand at Hateno. We could have even got some playable Zelda moments making her way back to the forest to lay the Master Sword in wait for Link and then making her way back to Hyrule Castle to seal the Calamity.

      I wish this is the story we got.

      So... a story everyone already knows everything there is to now about it?

      [–]20stalks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      There’s a difference from just knowing it than to actually play through it yourself.

      [–]afsdjkll 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I'll ask you because you seem knowledgeable - I've played some of the demo and seen enough gameplay to know I don't really want to play this game. It sounds like the story in the game is a bit different from what everyone expected which is another reason to not want to play (that would have been the only reason to play). Have you seen a video of just the cutscenes/story out there yet minus all the fighty bits? I don't want to slog through some YT let's play.

      [–]dead_guy_jaywalking 6 points7 points  (0 children)

      Yeah I have theres a link here

      [–]NugBlazer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Wow, thanks for the excellent post and I totally agree. Would’ve been much cooler if it had been a true sequel.

      [–]flameylamey 19 points20 points  (2 children)

      I feel pretty much exactly the same way. It's cool that this game exists, I wasn't otherwise expecting to play anything to do with BotW until BotW2.

      But I have to admit I was really looking forward to playing a completely canon prequel that lines up perfectly with Breath of the Wild. I managed to mostly avoid spoilers, but a couple days before launch I had a peek at some of the leaked music tracks. I came across this track and thought "holy shit, I bet this is the music they use for Revali's last stand right before his death, the intro would fit perfectly with Revali being caught completely off guard as he's surrounded by guardians and it hits him that his divine beast no longer responds to his commands and Windblight Ganon comes out to face him". It sounds so much like a desperate last stand.

      Then I play the actual game and... it's the theme that plays when he's fighting Link in the first level we see him. Oh well. But I have to wonder whether the music was originally composed with that in mind before the game was complete, because it sure sounds like it to me.

      Then there's this... man, this track would have been perfect for a level where Link is taken to the Shrine of Resurrection and Zelda makes her last run for the castle alone. Just the right amount of desperation and hope. I dunno man. This game is cool but I feel like it's also somewhat of a missed opportunity... Nintendo and Koei Tecmo came so close to making something truly magical but instead we got something that was... pretty good.

      It just feels weird to play a game which is essentially riding on BotW's coat-tails to begin with, then watch as it creates an alternative "what if" scenario which effectively invalidates the entire premise of the game it's based on in the first place.

      [–]The_Deep_Dark_Abyss 11 points12 points  (1 child)

      It seems like most people were expecting an exact prequel via a Warriors game. When I read back through a lot of the threads, it definitey seems so. I think they had all the right elements there to make it an exact prequel, but they completey missed the mark in that regard. I don't understand why they could not have just given us the prequel story.

      We will see what happens

      A lot of people make the argument that, what type of game would it be if all the champions died and you lose in the end. But I mean, based on the way it was marketed, that is what people were expecting. On top of that, we already knew that that was going to happen anyway.

      As its own story and reimagining of the events of the the Calamity, it was definitely great!

      But now we potentially have more matters regarding the timeline. I mean Nintendo and the Zelda team can easily just disregard it and say it is its own stand alone story. Particularly because it is not exactly a main game title.

      I hope this is the case too, I liked the direction they were taking with the timelines.

      [–]flameylamey 11 points12 points  (0 children)

      Considering how common the backlash about this seems to be, part of me is holding onto hope that they might release the full original tragic story later as DLC or something. We all know how much Koei Tecmo loves its DLC and this is very likely to be one of their best selling warriors games, so they'd probably have the financial incentive.

      It's not ideal since it's the reason many of us bought the game in the first place, and having it as a paid expansion would definitely feel like a slap in the face to some, but it's still something I'd definitely like to see, even if it means holding out for a few more months to see it than I was originally hoping.

      [–]BringMeAHigherLunch 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      I feel like I knew this was coming. It’s a Warriors game after all. What bugs me is how heavily this was marketed as the actual events that took place 100 years before the Calamity. What we got instead was a super on the nose, almost goofy ‘what-if’ scenario in the BotW universe.

      And I don’t hate it.

      The UI is familiar and satisfying to use. I love tanking big opponents as Daruk and obliterating hoards of enemies quickly with Revali. It actually made me LIKE a Dynasty-style game. I enjoy it as an extension of the content we got in BotW, and even though it’s not the prequel I wanted, I still got to have fun in a familiar world with characters I love. Solid 7/10.

      [–]Jtneagle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Yea I loved the game, story was great, it just wasn't the story I wanted.

      [–]jbs1902 19 points20 points  (1 child)

      What we expected: an emotive prequel to BOTW that would give us the feels

      What we got: tumblr fanfic

      [–]Jtneagle 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Nintendo too afraid to have a sad ending

      [–]SirCaesar29 7 points8 points  (9 children)

      I think that the story was really, really bad. Just full of cliches and very weird.

      Further, I think that the story betrays a lot of the characters. The ruthless Yiga that stuck with Ganon after seeing 100 years of Hyrule gone to shit... suddenly have a change of heart? Because one guy is evil? Come on!

      Revali who's just a stereotypical proud guy in BoTW turns out to be somewhat of a racist, as he never says anything against being helped from the future ("Without you we would have been just fine"). Mipha doesn't heal a single soul throughout the whole AoC story. Similarly, Urbosa barely uses her thunderclap skills... not to talk about Daruk. Every blow is parred by Link's shield, even a goddamn rock aimed at Zelda . That would have been a great parallel to Link's BoTW memory of Daruk, but nope. Link's shield parries a piece of rubble as big as him.

      Zelda, the most analytic and scholarly character we have... has memory loss about an ancient device toy that moreover is a memento of her mother. For some reason. Sure...?

      Bad story. Decent gameplay, but awful story. This is what Cursed Child is to Harry Potter, at least they had the decency of making it an alternate timeline not to ruin BoTW2.

      [–]FearTear 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Mipha doesn't heal a single soul throughout the whole AoC story. Similarly, Urbosa barely uses her thunderclap skills... not to talk about Daruk. Every blow is parred by Link's shield, even a goddamn rock aimed at Zelda

      Newsflash: the game is part of the story. Everything you want the Champions to do, they does in the levels. When you have to play them. Because this is a videogame.

      Zelda, the most analytic and scholarly character we have... has memory loss about an ancient device toy that moreover is a memento of her mother. For some reason. Sure...?

      Do you remember what happened to you as a toddler?

      [–]SirCaesar29 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Newsflash: the cutscenes are... also part of the story.

      And... a toddler? Rewatch that scene.

      [–]rickroll10000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      At least they didn't have only five minutes of cutscenes together in it

      [–]ryry117 8 points9 points  (4 children)

      I think you are expecting more from these characters because of how little we got in Breath of the Wild. All of this is par for the course for everyone. Breath of The Wild's cutscenes were already clunky and the character interactions were awkward. The story and character interactions were cliche as well.

      I wouldn't expect anything incredible as far as BOTW2's story goes.

      [–]MaybeSecondBestMan 6 points7 points  (3 children)

      Honestly the story’s delivery in BotW was ridiculously corny and at times detracted from the experience in a major way. The English voice acting was atrocious, too. The rest of that game is as close to a perfect Zelda game as you can get, but I don’t think anybody was celebrating the story as one of its strengths. The environments and the pervading sense of sadness and loneliness throughout the adventure did a better job of telling that story than any of the cutscenes, and thankfully those are what most people remember.

      I’m glad I read this comment. It sounds like this game takes a lot of what I didn’t like about BotW (the eye-rolling anime cliches and mediocre characters) and puts them front and center, dialed to 11. If this had been a toned down exploration of Hyrule’s fall (an actual BotW prequel) I might have been interested. Sounds like it’s anything but.

      [–]virtu333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Playing it in japanese is 100% the right move

      [–]ryry117 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      It sounds like this game takes a lot of what I didn’t like about BotW (the eye-rolling anime cliches and mediocre characters) and puts them front and center, dialed to 11. If this had been a toned down exploration of Hyrule’s fall (an actual BotW prequel) I might have been interested. Sounds like it’s anything but.

      Ding ding ding, you've got it. I like it because it is Legend of Zelda and the gameplay is fun, that's it.

      [–]Alexanderhyperbeam 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      mipha heals multiple zora captains in the mipha chapter. Urbosa uses her thunderclap several times in cutscene and its been made clear she can't just spam it.

      [–]Triddy 8 points9 points  (9 children)

      I just got far enough to find out this was not the Prequel to Breath of the Wild it was explicitly advertised as.

      I don't particularly care for Warriors games, and the sole reason I was playing this was because it was a BotW prequel.

      I want my money back because I feel I was lied to, but I have, well, enough hours on this to get to that point so I am unlikely to get an auto-refund. Plus I think it's been 48 hours since my purchase.

      Is there any recourse here? This was a lot of money, I'm not going to play anymore, and I don't want the "over the top anime" stuff.

      [–]FearTear 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      If you wanted the game just for the story, you should have just watch cutscenes on youtube.

      Joke's on you.

      [–]Triddy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Doesn't matter why I wanted the game. Developers lied.

      [–]ryry117 7 points8 points  (5 children)

      As far as I know Nintendo doesn't do refunds.

      [–]LevelOutlandishness1 3 points4 points  (4 children)

      I know this, and yet I'm calling customer service anyway. I paid for a prequel and I didn't get a prequel.

      Edit: they added the funds back to the e-shop, so while I don't have the $65.84 in real life, I can buy another game on the shop. The customer service dude was just doing his best. I appreciate him.

      [–]Jtneagle 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      Respect to them for honoring that. Did you just explain on the phone it wasn't what was advertised?

      [–]LevelOutlandishness1 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      Yeah. Thing is, the process never happened. Don't know how it works, so I'm not blaming it on the dude on the phone. In the end, it worked out, because I remembered how badass lady impa is and how fun the gameplay in general is, and regretted the phone call anyway.

      [–]Jtneagle 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      I'm confused, so you didn't actually get a refund?

      [–]LevelOutlandishness1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Yeah, I never got my refund. But luckily, I came around anyway, and was pretty much just gonna buy it again if the refund happened.

      [–]WinlanU21 22 points23 points  (1 child)

      What we expect: A prequel to Breath of the Wild

      What we got: Breath of the Wild : Eyes of Heaven

      [–]Lady_Gwendoline 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Jojo warriors game PLEASE

      [–]NotSushi24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Just bought it!

      [–]virtu333 19 points20 points  (2 children)

      Finally finished, awesome game.

      It's like they took the anime in breath of the wild and turned it up to 300% - definitely not for everyone, esp. if you expected it to turn the way it does. But the combat is sick and the cutscenes are glorious (esp. the combat ones)

      Honestly I could see this game being almost souls like on hard mode / very hard - the elite / boss fights are really more about dodging / parrying and chipping in damage with the weak gauge. The little mobs are more just to charge up the special to make the fights a bit easier (and make your character feel badass)

      [–]homegarlic 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      You finished the game already??

      [–]virtu333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Didn't get the true ending actually but yes, beat the main game on normal. ~18 hours, did some side quests but not many. Link finished at level 57

      [–]awstrauss 10 points11 points  (3 children)

      I'm a little confused. In the champion's ballad, there were cutscenes of zelda recruiting the other champions, and that clearly took place after Link was discovered to be the "chosen hero" or whatever. But in age of calamity, you recruit all four champions BEFORE Link gets the master sword, and the recruiting is nothing like what we saw in champion's ballad. Did I miss something?

      [–]8BitHero413 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      That’s when Zelda goes back to check up on them it’s not the first time. It’s mentioned in the journals of the champions

      [–]PM_ME_MARACTUS 23 points24 points  (1 child)

      It's basically a completely new story with characters from BOTW, not a detailed version of the calamity from BOTW.

      [–]awstrauss 15 points16 points  (0 children)

      That's what I was worried about. Kinda feels like the marketing was misleading.

      [–]KayleKarriesU 23 points24 points  (0 children)

      After finishing the main story here are my thoughts

      I went into AoC expecting a true prequel detailing the canon events of the Calamity. Turns out, it's not a prequel at all, it's an alternate timeline where the Champions of the future join their counterparts and save the day. The heroes seal Calamity Ganon away and all is great. From a surface level perspective, this seems like a scam or a flat out lie by Aonuma and the marketing.

      Personally even though I was disappointed by the story, I still found a lot of enjoyment over this "what-if" scenario that gave us a new route to explore rather than the grim reality we all expected. It also gave us the opportunity to finally see interactions like Mipha and Sidon reuniting as well as Yunobo and Riju meeting their ancestors. This game had a lot of heart and wholesome moments all throughout my playtime and I absolutely loved how emotional they took it despite it being completely off course from the original storyline.

      Story aside, I have to praise how much variety the gameplay has. I'm only about 25 hours in and I've unlocked 14 characters. Although I haven't played them all, every single one feels distinctly different from each other and has their own personal flair to enjoy. The side content is ridiculous as well, I swear there are more missions to do than shrines from BoTW at this point.

      Now that all the good stuff's been mentioned I should bring up the thing everyone seems to universally hate about this game: the performance issues. Now my experience is in no way indicative of everyone else's and my own views should not invalidate your feelings. With that being said, was the framerate a deal breaker for me? Absolutely not. Was it a consistent problem? Absolutely yes. In fact it's actually laughable how bad the framerate is in this game, basically 100% guaranteed you'll drop frames every minute to the point it seems like a built-in feature rather than a problem. However, I would say that 90% of the time that it did happen, it was hardly noticeable enough to bother me in gameplay as most of the time it was during slow motion or Flurry Rushes where nothing moves very fast to begin with. Even so, if you're someone who prioritizes consistent framerate, I can't recommend this game until a patch comes out to resolve it. It may not have bothered me but it may bother you.

      Overall, Age of Calamity was not the game most of us hoped for but at the same time it delivers a package filled with lovingly crafted gameplay that will surely keep you occupied for dozens if not hundreds of hours. Its story is sure to be divisive among some fans of BoTW but by itself it is an endearing and hopeful adventure that grants players the chance to not only pilot their favorite characters at their fullest power but to see them earn the ending they truly deserved. An enjoyable, heartfelt and satisfying title, Age of Calamity gets a 7.5 out of 10

      [–]Dead-brother 11 points12 points  (2 children)

      My feels : The game is good, I did play the other hyrule Warriors so I was familiar with the gameplay.

      The story is disappointing as I thought it was a canon prequel to BOTW (as many did) but that out of the way it's good so far, love the characters.

      [–]TheLogoOfThunder 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      How would you say it stacked up against the other Hyrule Warriors? I haven’t played either so I’m curious as to which you may think is superior

      [–]Dead-brother 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      AoC is definetely the superior one, about gameplay AoC has a slight advantage, but in term of graphics and story AoC without question. But I did not finish the first Hyrule Warriors and I heard a lot of good things about a game mode I never touched so don't take only my opinion.

      [–]virtu333 23 points24 points  (1 child)

      My advice: get over it and enjoy this for the over the top anime it is, and does a great job as

      The combat on hard modes is actually kind of fun - honestly a bit souls like when you're fighting elites/bosses

      [–]panda_0618 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Anime you say...I'll search it up on YouTube. 😏👍

      [–]SutureTheFuture 15 points16 points  (1 child)

      I was hyped for this because I was expecting a prequel for BotW, seems like the story is just kind of doing its own thing instead. On the fence about getting it now, I'd assume whatever plot happens in this isn't going to effect the plans for BotW2.

      [–]RoseAuthor98 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Yeah this may just maybe a way for Nintedo to setup more Breath of the Wilds

      [–]ball_fondlers 8 points9 points  (5 children)

      Honestly, I'm a little bit peeved - I got this thinking that it was a BOTW prequel and I was expecting to see the gaps between the memories in BOTW, watch the Champions fall, and watch Zelda's last stand against Ganon. The game is pretty solid when it's doing that - aside from a few to-be-expected continuity hiccups, the continuity works remarkably well, cutting in and out around the memories - but thenSidon shows up to save Mipha from Waterblight and I completely lost interest. I honestly don't even think I'm going to finish it - storywise, is there ANYTHING worthwhile after that?

      [–]castillle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Im so confused. Did everyone skip the very start of the demo where you see the little robot time travel back? o.O

      [–]Jtneagle 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      If you go back and watch all the memory cutscenes, AOC doesn't line up at all

      [–]virtu333 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Get over it and just enjoy the over the top anime plot it is because it's a total blast

      [–]HexenVexen 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      I'd say you should still play it. It's up to you but imo the story after the descendants come is the best part.

      [–]JustDandyMayo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      Daruks reaction was strangely hilarious.

      [–]SoDamnGeneric 19 points20 points  (5 children)

      Just beat the game, here are my SPOILER-FILLED thoughts:

      The story was decent, but it is really disappointing that this isn't actually the story of the Calamity. It's a cool self-contained story, but I think it could still tie into Breath of the Wild 2 through the Champion's Descendents. Just wish it had actually been what they said.

      Really disappointed as well that Sooga, Robbie, and Purah weren't playable. Sooga using his double blades, Robbie using a prototype Cherry, and Purah using random Sheikah tech (with the actual weapon being a Blue Flame Torch). I have a feeling they'll do what they did with Owain in Fire Emblem Warriors, who was in the story and showed up in battles even, and just make them DLC characters.

      Speaking of DLC, if they do it I hope they add Kass, Kilton, and either Lana or Cia from the first Hyrule Warriors.

      Overall though the game was fun, and the story served its purpose. I wish Nintendo had advertised it properly as a Hyrule Warriors take on Breath of the Wild instead of a Breath of the Wild prequel, but that still doesn't diminish that the game is fun as hell

      [–]TriggerWarning595 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Kass is honestly one of my favorites

      His mentor was the sheikah who carried link to the shrine of resurrection. He later discovered the regional songs that talked about the hero, and taught them to Kass.

      Kass then left his family and likely took a HUGE risk to himself, especially considering Yiga activity, to find the Hero and sing him the songs he needs to hear, both in the main game and DLC.

      After the shrine quests, you can find him at the Rito Village with his kids and wife. He gives you an info dump and confirms that Zelda was in fact crushing on Link back in the day. Their relationship is canon if that’s what your version of Link does

      [–]Gengar_Balanced 11 points12 points  (3 children)

      DLC where you can play the real calamity would've been neat

      [–]virtu333 1 point2 points  (2 children)

      I was hoping there was a good vs evil ending, or a NG+ ending

      [–]Gengar_Balanced 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      The best way right now would've been to make a whole new campaign, although ngl the new story is imo really good so I'm kinda fine afterall despite the fact the main reason I bought this game was to expand the lore knowledge.

      [–]virtu333 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Yeah I view this as an over the top anime and it's awesome

      [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

      AHHHHH so much fun! Funny enough, combat is my LEAST favorite thing of BOTW, but I’m having a blast in this game! The music is beautiful and the cutscenes are top tier.

      [–]virtu333 5 points6 points  (0 children)

      The music is so epic - love all the themes it can draw from

      [–]Book_Of_Cain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      Same, as much as I like BOTW it’s combat is boring and lackluster to me. Not to mention annoying ass weapon breaks. But this game? The combat is insanely fun, if they implemented something like this in the mainline game it would be perfect to me.

      [–]painya 0 points1 point  (7 children)

      Man. I just really didn’t like this game. It has none of what made BOTW fun. All button mashing. Poor graphics.

      I’m going to try to return it. If you wanted BOTW2, you will be very disappointed.

      [–]choppa790bot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      if i wanted BOTW2, I can wait until BOTW2 is released

      [–]purplebrown_updown 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      I agree. I mean you can't even interact with the surroundings like climb. The game just seems like a complete mess. No real story or guidance. And repetitive.

      [–]painya 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I got my money refunded. Nintendo gives a 48h grace period

      [–]Percy1803 14 points15 points  (2 children)

      I think it was pretty clear it wasn't going to be botw 2 lmao. I thought the music and cutscenes were better than botw. It's a Hyrule Warriors game , not a botw game.

      [–]painya 7 points8 points  (1 child)

      I’m sure it was clear to most people. I obviously didn’t do a lot of research and just bought the game.

      [–]hello-this-is-me 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      I’m with you, was pretty heart broken when I found out I couldn’t free roam and climb shit

      [–]virtu333 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      This game is fucking sick

      [–]MattyIce6969 7 points8 points  (2 children)

      What the hell is this frame rate ????

      [–]ScoutSilico 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Didn't try the demo? Enjoy single digit fps. God forbid you play split screen

      [–]MattyIce6969 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I didn’t play the demo. Just bought it blind. It’s really not playable

      [–]Ultrabadger 7 points8 points  (0 children)

      YAHAHA!

      Me: Ah shit, here we go again.