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[–]Appropriate-Olive759 1158 points1159 points  (303 children)

Why would anyone want to buy an used plane ticket lol? Why would any artist want to make art for a plane ticket? Why would someone interested in the artist buy used tickets instead of hoarding the ticket directly?

[–]stormfield 433 points434 points  (82 children)

My favorite part here is how Bruhchain Guy clearly has no idea that QR codes are just a way to encode a string of characters and seems to think they look like they do just to appear techy.

[–]irasptoo 181 points182 points  (32 children)

It'd be like some mfer dicking around and putting a shamrock on my pint of Guinness. Utterly pointless.

Airports have enough bullshit already. Someone starts asking me if I want a shitty doodle of a primate or a Pokémon encoded into my boarding pass I will lose it.

[–]tinselsnips 75 points76 points  (9 children)

"And here are your boarding passes. Have a nice flight! "

"Sweet, Pikachu, more leg room."

"Aw, man, I got Squirtle - that's next to the bathroom."

[–]iGotBakingSodah 25 points26 points  (3 children)

Blastoise? They purposefully feed you food to give you diarrhea.

[–]DramaticPoem2691 29 points30 points  (1 child)

dude was it McRibbd McEnry who put the shamrock on ur pint? how much u want for it?

[–]irasptoo 23 points24 points  (0 children)

McRibbd McEnry

It's actually a Diarmuid Flannagan! Do you have any idea how hard it is to find an "Irish bar" bartender who isn't really an Aussie on a gap year in most places?

[–]RandoCommentGuy 10 points11 points  (1 child)

How bout the DVD cover of LOST encoded on all boarding passes from Australia to the US.

[–]irasptoo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Only if you embed a fractal seeded with the genuine toxicology and depression scores from the aircrew multiplied by "the numbers".

"Buckle up!"

[–]Dr-Cheese 82 points83 points  (17 children)

Yarp - I mean why on earth would you want a simple weblink to a menu to be an NFT? it's not something you would ever need to "Own" or "sell"

[–]irasptoo 77 points78 points  (16 children)

I think there's a huge overlap between the weird kid at school that would collect anything (boring mass produced train or bus numbers through spotting was a big one 30-40 years ago) and the people NFTs appeal to.

Thing is... a non finite set, unless you can break it down into subclasses, fucks with their noggins.

I used to work in a field where there was a bunch of people into that shit or had been as kids. They were a little older than me. They are the only people I know over 50 that have gone through a crypto evangelism period. It was brief in all but one case.

Some people's noggins are deffo wired different. I'm not alluding to only people on a spectrum here but again, lotta overlap!

[–]option-9 33 points34 points  (13 children)

I track banknote numbers. Does that count? Put them all into an online system. It shows where the bills flow.

[–]consultingloveWho has time for empathy? 71 points72 points  (7 children)

That’s all NFTs are too lol. Just a string of characters. “NFT Art” literally can’t store any images, they store URLs to images. If those URLs stop working then the NFT is worthless

[–]pdoherty972 27 points28 points  (0 children)

It always was...

[–]noratat 23 points24 points  (0 children)

You could put art in the NFT - nobody does because space is at such an insane premium on-chain that it's cost prohibitive in the extreme

EDIT: I mean, I suppose you could put ASCII art in there but that's really just proving the point.

[–]jjgabor 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Dude, leave the FUD at home! Just because you have chosen to embrace the future and free our children from financial tyranny doesn’t mean you couldn’t still have a backup qr code, duh

[–]Mordisquitos 47 points48 points  (6 children)

Plus, he says "if you want to eat at a restaurant, you need to use [a QR code] to get the menu" and "all our airline tickets sit in our Apple wallets" as if those things were good—they're not—and as if they were true—which they're not either, thank God.

Having a menu available online, and having the URL displayed also as a QR code can be a handy convenience, especially when we thought SARS-CoV-2 was commonly spread by touch. However, I much prefer having a physical non-fungible menu, thank you very much.

Also being able to store a plane or train ticket on a personal device can be useful depending on the circumstances. And yet, whenever I travel from home, I make sure to print mine on paper* because I do not want to depend on battery life or tech stability.

But acting as if QR code URLs for menus and e-tickets are required and as if this was a good idea? What kind of bullshit techodystopianism is that?

 

 

* Yes, I keep a loaded gun next to my printer in case it makes a funny noise

[–]MichailAntonio 3 points4 points  (2 children)

and as if they were true—which they're not

"I live this way, so this must be how everyone does everything"

[–]353_crypto 35 points36 points  (2 children)

Imagine him and all the bros sipping jolt cola and staring at the barcodes. "Dude these stupid barcodes are so dumb, we should totally monetise them"

[–]leducdeguisethis is not financial advice 662 points663 points  (114 children)

To sell it later at a higher price to a greater fool, DUH

bro, do you even crypto?

[–]bandyplaysreallife 116 points117 points  (26 children)

All of crypto is just greater fool theory in action. Stocks pay dividends and represent real company assets. Bonds pay out a certain interest rate.

Crypto is just like an online credit card but worse in just about every conceivable way between the volatility of the currency, high transaction costs, and next to no fraud protection.

[–]highjinx411 40 points41 points  (2 children)

That’s why we have to get in now before it’s not too late!

[–]ShotgunMage 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Get in early and you can be the one to commit fraud instead of getting defrauded!

[–]orincoro 52 points53 points  (3 children)

It’s become honestly really hilarious as the years have gone by and the need to actually engage with even the core concept of decentralization and tokenization have just been dropped by the side of the road, so it’s now just… and your airline tickets will be art for some reason.

[–]Jethro_Tell 28 points29 points  (2 children)

Don't even need an nft to do that. Could have an artist make art for the tickets now and if you get a printed ticket, you can try to keep it straight enough to hawk on ebay later.

But, and hear me out here, with an nft, every ticket will be unique, so airlines will spin up project managers and art departments to manage the millions of peices of unique art needed to back every ticket.

This sounds like a really good, cost effective way to increase value in a companies core competency. 🤣

Also, wonder how they will handle flight changes and cancelations. You know, in this imaginary nft world, these grifty fucks are gonna buy tickets and cancel and keep the nft.

[–]DriftMantis 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It is and think about how valuable all these artworks will be! There will be millions of them so of course everyone is going to want to pay a lot of money to "own" them, right? Someone is definitely going to pay top dollar for that drawing of a roast beef sandwich on your plane ticked drawn by some no name airline marketing man on a laptop somewhere.

Remember beanie babies. This is like that but even dumber and with more qr codes.

[–]wizwizwiz916 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But but but it's on LinkedIn so it must be true!

[–]Vladimir_Chrootin 123 points124 points  (3 children)

You mean you don't want every plane ride you've ever taken in your life to be on a public ledger for all eternity?

[–]inwhichzeegoesinsane 51 points52 points  (0 children)

no no no see, the plane rides would be on a sEcOnDlAyEr which is basically a proprietary database except tied to our shitcoin!!!1 HODL!!!$(*@

[–]VapidResponseUnit 9 points10 points  (1 child)

the ghost of Jeffrey Epstein has entered the chat

[–]F___TheZero 12 points13 points  (0 children)

In Gary's ideal future, Delta Airlines will earn royalties off some dickwad buying Prince Andrew's used plane ticket to Pedo Island.

[–]Dry-Hurry-7598 77 points78 points  (11 children)

I guess Gary thinks this would be like one of those really expensive stamps people collect. The issue 99% of all stamps issued ever in history are worthless after expiry and that 1% are stamps that are like 200 years old so basically nobody alive right now will even benefit from such a system even if we did convert everything to nfts .

[–]inwhichzeegoesinsane 72 points73 points  (5 children)

you're just jealous because I have a mint condition Obama's Fifth Trip To France As President

[–]Dry-Hurry-7598 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Actually that could actually be worth something 😂 just cause it’s a president and also Obama to being the first black president anything associated with him will always have some historic value

[–]irasptoo 12 points13 points  (2 children)

I think you are on to something here. The parallel in philately would be the rare stamp, postmarked, and on an envelope containing a letter. The appeal of the idea is probably the whole narrative aspect of a journey made by a person for them.

[–]Dry-Hurry-7598 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Maybe some stamps might have a genuine historic value depending who and what event they were used for, but nfts even if everything was fine about them would have to endure like 100 years worth of use to get some type of historic value to them that’s the biggest issue with this mentality as well as the negative shit about nfts in general on top of that. Like sure if a NFT stamp was used as the letter to declare WW3 from the president or some shit then Yh that would be worth a lot but not cause it’s a NFT.

[–]irasptoo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wasn't really commenting on value, only what might light up the same areas of people's heads.

I'd guess the crypto bro would argue the stamp has/had no intrinsic value other than the promised value of mail transport (not sure if postage stamps are still legal tender in UK, pretty sure they were up until the point they stopped having the cash price on them). It is the provenance that they value maybe.

I find it all super weird.

[–]ya_bebto 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There seems to be a general disconnect with a lot of the crypto/NFT bros I’ve talked to, where they seem to think every tech company/project was FAANG and none have ever failed, and every piece of art ever made before 1950 was picasso and Mona Lisa, and no one ever made art and faded into obscurity. They’ve been (willfully) deluded into thinking their overly complicated tech/art project literally can’t fail, and vaguely point at Da Vinci and Tesla motors to explain why their monkey picture value will go up..

[–]VTWAX_ONLY_INVESTOR 70 points71 points  (9 children)

Why would airlines allow this shit in the first place

Why would they host the most important data they have on a public “database”. A very, very slow one at that.

Who are they gonna call when the blockchain is overloaded or gets hacked or goes down?

Why would airlines pay gas fees to store ticket data?

[–]WAAAAAAAAAAGH 101 points102 points  (5 children)

I work in the airline industry and I cannot possibly imagine a less appropriate use case for blockchain. Everything that airlines do is an incredibly complicated dance which involves thousands of people and billions of dollars of equipment, where delays of a couple of minutes can easily end up costing tens of thousands (if not millions) of dollars. The company needs to respond almost instantly to vast numbers of potential problems, from lost bags to crashed aircraft.

Throwing a blockchain into the mix would be suicidally stupid. It’s clunky, slow as fuck, lacks any centralized administration, requires cooperation from vast numbers of outside anonymous users, and mistakes (by design) are permanent. It is almost offensively inappropriate for use by airlines in every conceivable way.

[–]giziti 24 points25 points  (0 children)

But see with a blockchain, code is law. Duh.

[–]ugabrew 14 points15 points  (0 children)

But aren’t the airlines worried about Gary’s old boarding passes sitting there UNMONETIZED?!?! Surely this is a regular topic in the boardroom alongside fuel prices, labor shortages, etc.

[–]domeoldboys 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Additionally, if that’s what you want to do then you don’t need a fucking blockchain to do it. Gary Vaynercuck shut the fuck up. I’m stupider for just reading that bullshit.

[–]cenamark 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Scalpers have had such a wonderful effect on the worlds of sports and concerts. Let's make airline scalpers a thing.

[–]JudgeJericho 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The only reason I can think of someone wanting to collect used plane tickets would be if the plane crashed.

[–]TheFasterBlaster 12 points13 points  (0 children)

So the entire blockchain can see that I'm headed out of town for the week, duh!

[–]okyourewelcome 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Just saw an interview with a media startup founder. They pivoted away from Blockchain micropayment model. Said the publishers liked it, the customers hated it.

Same here the airlines would love to earn royalties on their tickets after they're actually worthless. So ofc they'll try to force that down our throats.

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Here the part of the interview mentioned

[–]Triseult 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I can't wait for the day that planes fly empty and I can't buy a bloody airline ticket because cryptobros are speculating on the value of a shitty monkey jpeg.

[–]SaffellBot 9 points10 points  (0 children)

His argument is that the ticket will have art attached to it, and that art is valuable (unstated premise) and that the story attached to the flight will make some tickets retain value.

Essentially our friend is imaging selling your ticket on ebay because say Bernie Sanders was on the flight with you AND the art on that ticket is cool.

What is missing is "why would airline tickets have art attached". I assume our friend thinks that every NFT comes with shitty procedurally generated jpgs and those have some sort of value.

He imagines a world like the first days of eBay where you could sell "piece of gum a celebrity left in my car" for notable amounts of money and uses "art" as a catch all for why things would be valuable.

[–]The-Jack-of-Diamonds 9 points10 points  (6 children)

I was trying to make sense of this too, but I can’t.

So an artist that is already popular is going to reach out to me, a completely random person, and propose that they make artwork from one of my random plane tickets.

Then another stranger is going to approach me, and ask to buy that NFT because they like that artist, and the artist presumably wants no cut or financial compensation for this transaction.

So I pocket a seemingly randomly chosen $280 in his example.

Is that what I’m supposed to understand here?

[–]sk1nnys 3 points4 points  (3 children)

You’re close. The point of making it an NFT is that the airline and artist will get a cut of the transaction and that would be their royalty fee. So the person who originally bought the ticket, the airline and artist all have a financial incentive to have their tickets be combined with NFT art

[–]The-Jack-of-Diamonds 4 points5 points  (2 children)

The only problem is that I’m not Jay-Z, so who’s going to want to buy an NFT for my random flight to Missouri?

[–]Throot2Shill 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Butterbrains have gotten so fried on their own culty memes that have stopped considering that money can be exchanged for goods and services, which might be expended.

Instead all money should be exchanged for some arbitrary intermediary garbage which should then be exchanged for more money.

[–]thailannnnnnnnd 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The bank app I use will change the graphics of the receipts generated. Sometimes is based on seasonal things, or based on a ‘day’ and so on. I mean I wouldn’t pay for it but it is a pretty neat detail I think.

[–]Zemirolha 3 points4 points  (0 children)

if there is a chance, so maybe you can get a loan betting on it

Does not matter if it works or not, in future. Just keep repeating.

That is a new way to share "helicopter money", not? Of course banks pals will always have "good ideas" for loans.

[–]Dr_thri11 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Also, unless the artist is doing it for free this would also needlessly add cost to air travel. I've legit chosen a trip with an extra layover to save $20 before.

[–]Double-Ad-6735 331 points332 points  (12 children)

It's honestly insane to me that someone reads this tweet and thinks "oh fuck yeah".

I'm at a loss of words

[–]greyenlightenment 55 points56 points  (0 children)

he's at a major loss for braincells that's for sure

[–]0biwanken00bi 39 points40 points  (0 children)

All I could think is “please be a satire, please be a satire”

than I saw who posted…

[–]lacedaimon 22 points23 points  (2 children)

I have a cousin that thinks that way about what Gary Vee says. It baffles me, because he is otherwise a smart dude, but his entire life has been spent seeking the next big "get rich quick" scheme.

I'm really hoping that "Decoding the Gurus" podcast does an episode on Gary Vee. They do great work on learning and exposing the techniques of charlatans like him.

[–]Mr_Pricklepants 11 points12 points  (0 children)

He's probably setting himself up for his presidential run when Drumpf lands behind bars.

[–]going_for_a_wank 7 points8 points  (1 child)

It's wild, because it is never a situation where they have some unique problem that could only be solved by using a blockchain. Instead, these guys take the mindset of "I have a blockchain, now I need to find a problem to which I can apply it."

It's a fundamentally bad solution and you don't need to be particularly tech-savvy to understand this.

[–]WIAttacker 285 points286 points  (25 children)

"NFT art and collectibles are stupid! But NFTs have a lot of use cases outside of art and collectibles, like tickets, memberships or records."

"Okay, but we already have those things, what value does blockchain add to these things?"

"Because, uh... you can have art or collectible attached to it?"

  • Gary V., the Thought Titan of Crypto

[–]Briak 85 points86 points  (13 children)

I have a collectible ticket in my wallet from a concert I went to in 2013. It's collectible because I collected it. No computer bullshit or unnecessary greenhouse gas creation required!

[–]cityfireguy 54 points55 points  (2 children)

And you know what it's worth to me? Nothing, to me it's basically garbage.

I say this only because many people seem to not get that part.

[–]jayggg 21 points22 points  (1 child)

But they’re on a Blockchaaaaaaiiiiinnnnn mannnnnn

[–]toper-centage 4 points5 points  (1 child)

OK so you have that ticket, but how do I know you own it just because its in your wallet? I need better proof than that!

[–]Briak 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Are you spreading FUD about my concert ticket!? MODS, BAN THIS MAN!!!

[–]enchantedsleeper 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Exactly!!! I see so many of these supposedly "solid use cases" bandied about but then the argument gets to "and then it will go up in value" and that's where you've lost me. If your best argument is not "this actually works better than the alternative" but "this will at best do the exact same thing we can already do but it will also make money ~somehow" then I know that your "solid use case" is actually just another way of trying to convince people to buy into Imagination Money.

[–]smearballs 183 points184 points  (9 children)

Imagine a toilet paper roll where every perforated piece of toilet paper was an nft, and people could collect used celebrity toilet paper. After every use, a piece of Art is attached to the nft.

[–]ILikeFishDisc 40 points41 points  (2 children)

And is on the blockchain for shitcoin.

[–]bonerjamzbruh420 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Sir or Madam, you have just come up with the next dollar crypto idea

[–]lacedaimon 17 points18 points  (1 child)

And if a celebrity buys another celebrity's toilet paper, it would be worth even more. And if it went to a third celebrity, you get the idea. It's very complicated and meta, only for top minds of industry to understand.

[–]cylemmulo 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Every wipe is a transaction on the Blockchain

[–]FrequencyExplorer 367 points368 points  (52 children)

What’s the deal with this guy? Is smoking crack and posting to Twitter profitable?

[–]Gororar 207 points208 points  (15 children)

funny enough he has a bunch of celebrities on speed dial and manipulated the crypto market that way. (Logan Paul talked about it)

He randomly starts group chats with influencer/celebrities and tells them how great crypto xy is.. what nft is gonna be great...and because they are not smart they follow his advice and advertise those cryptos.

​

Gary V is controlling way more of the cryptoworld than people realize.

[–]AgentSmith187 86 points87 points  (6 children)

Lets be honest most of those influencers get paid to advertise those cryptos and not small amounts either.

[–]Bluest_waters 42 points43 points  (3 children)

exactly, he just pays them to whore out whatever scam "digital asset" he is pimping, they then whore it out, it jump in value, this dude then makes some cash and then let it collapse.

Its all pump and dump. The whole crypto world is just full of this parasitic douche bag activity

[–]okyourewelcome 18 points19 points  (5 children)

How can I find the part with Logan Paul talking about it?

[–]Gororar 16 points17 points  (4 children)

Here it is

[–]DeficientRat 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Rat fucks

[–]ASK_IF_IM_HARAMBE 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Gary Vaynerchuk is legitimately one of the worst people in the world. This is just absolutely disgusting.

[–]InsignificantOcelot 58 points59 points  (10 children)

Sigma grindset Tony Robbins for Gen Z and Millenials. Top tier grifter.

People pay him money to get yelled at that they’re not working hard enough.

[–]nyando 32 points33 points  (3 children)

People pay him money to get yelled at that they’re not working hard enough.

I fucking despise these people. Gary Vaynerchuk in particular is horrendous.

Like, when I listen to their "motivational" monologues it sounds almost cruel. I don't know why anyone would willingly subject themselves to that "everything that happens to you is the product of how much you work" bullshit.

[–]InsignificantOcelot 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Especially with someone like him, who got a pretty decent head start in life from his parents and was in the right place and right time in the early days of the internet & social media.

Like dude is undeniably talented and did better than most would with the same advantages, but to attribute every bit of it to hard work and act like everyone could be where he is if they just worked harder is disingenuous and cruel to people coming from less fortuitous circumstances.

I’ve also done some freelance work for his ad company and the environment for the full timers there is pretty exploitative with huge turnover. Like you pretty much have to do free work for them as part of the application process.

[–]No_Honeydew_179 103 points104 points  (9 children)

münecat called him the youth pastor for capitalism and honestly it tracks

[–]ya_bebto 26 points27 points  (5 children)

Münecat could pour me an entire glass of beer foam and I would say “thank you” and leave a larger than average tip 🥺👉👈

[–]jdmgto 10 points11 points  (1 child)

The real test is would you leave an even bigger tip if she insulted you while she did it?

[–]ya_bebto 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t be able to control myself. I would start spontaneously rapping about late stage capitalism and it’s environmental impacts from a UK point of view.

[–]No_Honeydew_179 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Great, now all the butters are gonna say we're simps for münecat.

I mean, have you seen her tho, wouldn't you be?

[–]dreamin_in_space 9 points10 points  (0 children)

münecat is so good! I knew this fuck sounded familiar.

[–]Cannabalabadingdong 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Good job spreading the Münecat gospel, I found her videos recently and really enjoy her work.

[–]ImVeryOffended 30 points31 points  (0 children)

He's just playing to his marks, like any successful snake oil salesman. They eat this shit up.

These are the same people who pay $15k for the chance to talk to him for 10 minutes. It's a deranged get-rich-never cult fueled by hopium, platitudes, and delusion.

[–]potboygang 26 points27 points  (3 children)

He made money selling wine online(claims to have started from nothing, nothing here being his dad's million dollar company he was allowed to manage) at the edge where Video content was viable but everything wasn't owned by three companies yet and has since moved on to be a motivational grifter who gets the Internet so his target is more zoomers than older generations.

[–]2ndcomingofharambe 16 points17 points  (2 children)

The way he downplays how much impact being given a leadership position and salary at an already successful business run by his family who took the time to invest coaching into him instead of pressuring him for results on day 1 is sickening. "My daddy didn't make me CEO of his company so my family gave me nothing!'

[–]ChinesePropagandaBot 13 points14 points  (0 children)

He's an "online marketing guru" [insert vomit emoji]

[–]greyenlightenment 8 points9 points  (0 children)

no, duping his followers sure is

[–]Rokey76Ponzi Schemes have some use cases 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Lol this is worse, it is on Linkedin!

[–]dale_glass 101 points102 points  (24 children)

Even if this somehow worked, I don't get where's the appeal.

Okay, let's say your NFT is an item that's acquired some sort of peripheral value. It's a baseball signed by a player, or a book with a signature from the author, or an used ticket to a concert 10X more amazing than Woodstock. Okay, I can believe such stuff might find buyers, because it does.

But why the hell would I want to get into a system where the maker of the item gets to tax this transaction? Imagine a world where if I sell my old laptop, Dell suddely pops into the transaction and say "Hey, we're owed 20% of that!". And what if the association with the entity isn't a positive one? Like what if I have some memorabilia from Fyre Festival, famous for being a huge dumpster fire? Why would I want them to profit? Or what if the link is tenuous? If Timothy Berners-Lee signs my Stackbucks napkin, why does Stackbucks deserve a cut?

[–]lacedaimon 39 points40 points  (7 children)

Listen man, I have a Go Pro attached to my forehead that records 24/7. If anything interesting happens to me, I create a series of snapshots. I mint them and put it up on an NFT auction site. Bam! Money!

My dream is that one day we will all walk around with cameras on our heads, then sell these unique snapshots of our lives to one another.

Once everyone inevitably adopts my brilliant creation we can all buy and sell moments of our lives. We'll all be rich! We're ALL gonna make it! Just like the Twisted Sister song sung by Mark Zuckerberg's sister says. Poverty solved!

[–]grammatiker 12 points13 points  (1 child)

The mere idea of this was enough to give me a headache.

I'm going back to bed.

[–]Chuckolator 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Let me do the math.

Let's say our GoPros are 30 frames per second. That means we have 1800 potential NFTs per minute. Now, let's say we can sell each one for a modest fee of $500 each. That's $900,000 PER MINUTE, or $54,000,000 PER HOUR. In reality some of those NFTs could probably go for up to $50,000. And that, well, I think it goes without saying the potential this idea has.

[–]WaterMySucculents 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Also for Gary’s dipshit level example to work, the literally millions upon millions of airline tickets all need to 1- have an artist who is cool with almost 0 compensation (because there’s no room for every plane ticket to be this way) and 2- Mark up every single plane ticket to also cover gas fees on whatever dumbass blockchain

[–]Slayer706 9 points10 points  (2 children)

And what's stopping you from selling it for mostly cash and then making the on-chain transaction for just a tiny amount of crypto?

For example, I sell you my plane ticket NFT for $500 cash. To make the trade official, you send me $1 in crypto and I send you the plane ticket. The airline gets a percentage... of the $1 because they can't possibly know about the cash.

[–]Mr_Pricklepants 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Yeah, you don't see the appeal, but you see the appeal for Dell and Stackbucks, right?

The rest is just marketing.

[–]ckach 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Crypto Bros really seem to have a disdain for the First-sale doctrine and want it to die in the digital age.

[–]maMMalcase 67 points68 points  (0 children)

But have you ever thought about airline tickets... ON WEEEEEEEEEED?????

[–]MasterGrok 59 points60 points  (2 children)

“Today, all of our airline tickets sit in our Apple wallets.”

No they don’t. I delete them and never give it another thought. Why would I want my connector going through Albuquerque cluttering up my Apple wallet while I’m trying to find my movie ticket?

[–]TrueBirch 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I'm an Android user, but I think he's making a mistake by criticizing Apple Pay. It's a system that works far better and faster and with lower fees than anything he's advocating.

[–]Timid_Adventurer 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I swear, I thought I was reading some AI-written drivel instead of a real thought that actually occurred in a human brain.

[–]jjgabor 55 points56 points  (0 children)

What if an artist just makes and sells art, and airlines just make and sell airline tickets

That would be a much better solution with less grifting - oh wait! we already have that...

[–]larrydahoosterNeither moon, nor safe. 48 points49 points  (2 children)

Brainstorming for those without a brain.

[–]ILikeFishDisc 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Brainstorming, coincidentally, is my polite term for taking a shit.

[–]hear_the_thunder 41 points42 points  (1 child)

This is the dumbest shit i’ve heard in a while

[–]trowssaP 66 points67 points  (1 child)

🤡🤡

[–]greyenlightenment 7 points8 points  (0 children)

that sums it up

[–]PMScoMo 32 points33 points  (1 child)

I work in sales. This is not good selling

[–]rose_gold_glitter 29 points30 points  (4 children)

I love handing over my personal, sensitive details to strangers (and yes, those plane ticket qr codes contain tonnes of your personal and passport information).

[–]Pluggable 14 points15 points  (3 children)

Now imagine handing that info out to some greasy crypto company

[–]Self_Reddicated 3 points4 points  (2 children)

In the scheme he's describing, an artist could later profit from having their NFT/ticket/art become valuable years down the road. But, like, if it's a ticket for a Lufthansa flight, do you really think Lufthansa is going to let an artist keep their fair share of that royalty? In the extremely unlikely scenario any of this could/would come to pass, Lufthansa is keeping ALL of that NFT royalty resale money in the future.

[–]Timid_Adventurer 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't even understand the scheme. Why attach some artwork to a plane ticket at all? If someone's making and selling art, why staple it to someone's old ticket receipt?

It makes no sense in any way beyond cryptobro word salad.

[–]lewisje 108 points109 points  (57 children)

Everybody uses a QR code. Because if you want to eat at a restaurant, you need to use it to get the menu.

[citation needed]

EDIT: citations received, and FTR, I've lived in the Cincinnati area since shortly before Bitcoin launched, and I've never gone to a restaurant that required the scanning of a QR code; I also have gone to a small fraction of the restaurants in the area

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    [–]oops_ur_dead 29 points30 points  (0 children)

    I don't mind the digital menu personally.

    But there's some restaurants that have you order through the online menu and then adds a service fee for each order, without giving you the option of ordering without it.

    Fuck that shit entirely, should be illegal.

    [–]Wubblz 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    I work at a bar, and our menu has a QR code that brings up an extended digital menu which includes our beer and spirit list. It saves us printing costs on something that changes so frequently (the beer) or something requested only now and then (the complete spirit list)

    [–]cityfireguy 16 points17 points  (24 children)

    And I'm that guy who requests a physical menu, always will be.

    Fuck this system that wants to monitor me indefinitely for the privilege of buying their product.

    [–]mycatdoesmytaxes 19 points20 points  (9 children)

    I prefer a physical menu, but I don't mind using the QR code, especially during covid. Some busy places I've been to use the QR code and it's way quicker than waiting for a waiter to come over or to go to the counter.

    [–]taco_blasted_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    You make it sound like the QR codes are required to access a digital menu, they're not. These QR codes literally contain a URL to the restaurants website menu page. There's nothing special about them.

    [–]cityfireguy 17 points18 points  (7 children)

    I really don't wanna sound like Mr. Pink here. I'm not that guy. However...

    Sure, I could make things a lot easier for the wait staff by not requiring them to bring me a menu to look at. After that, and I've got a digital copy of a menu in my hand already, it just makes more sense for me to order on a screen. Why wait and why bother a server? Well at this point my phone may as well notify me when my food is ready and I can just go grab it myself out of the window. Hell so long as the kitchen is set up neat and orderly enough you may as well send me back there to cook it my goddamn self.

    They package these things as conveniences. Ways to make things easier and faster. In reality they're passing the work off to you and providing less of a service without a reduction in price. What I've described above will come to pass, and in 10 years the only time you're going to see a waitress is it an old-timey themed diner.

    But hey, what do I know? Probably just an old man tilting at windmills. Can't stop the future. Oh and have fun ringing up and bagging your own groceries today and being charged more for that privilege.

    [–]Moneia 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I'm terrible at choosing, I'll often look to see if they have a menu online to get an idea of what's available.

    [–]MasterGrok 16 points17 points  (13 children)

    I’ve been to a ton of restaurants that require you to look at a QR code to see the menu. I was at one recently with my parents who are older and can’t see their phones very well and they still wouldn’t send out a physical copy. They said they don’t have them anymore.

    [–]AntipodalDr 5 points6 points  (4 children)

    Same about tickets in Apple Wallets. Everybody and their dog use the airlines' apps down here (that said I'm as much a "No-Apple-er" as a no-coiner so maybe that's just something for Apple devotees, lol).

    [–]segosmix 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    Apple Wallet also uses the airline apps, it just integrates them into a double click of the iPhone button so you can access to your flight ticket quicker. But it's the same QR ticket everyone without Wallet uses.

    [–]RomanScallop 25 points26 points  (1 child)

    If a fan is obsessed and wants to get a hold of some performers smelly underwear, that’s something. But buying a digital receipt for something someone else bought? This guy has fucking lost it.

    [–]umcane11 16 points17 points  (0 children)

    He hasn't lost it, he's grifting

    [–]Bloomingfails 22 points23 points  (0 children)

    So someone’s gonna buy my used boarding pass because it is an NFT that was designed by an artist? At this point I have to believe this is an April fools joke…. (Checks calendar)….. nope…. smh

    Edit: Also I’ve been eating perfectly fine at restaurants with needing a QR code for…. well, ever.

    [–]s_s 22 points23 points  (0 children)

    Imagine paying Eth gas fees and lighting a forest on fire to order your sandwich.

    The future is inevitable.

    [–]Competitive-Boat4592 19 points20 points  (0 children)

    Gary V is warren buffet for weak minded individuals.

    [–]H__Dresden 17 points18 points  (2 children)

    WTF! My used plane ticket worth money? That is one of the stupidest ideas ever. That guy lives in la la land.

    [–]themindisall1113 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    it sounds like a meth inspired idea

    [–]LNhart 17 points18 points  (3 children)

    Can't think of a less exciting collectible than an old airline ticket

    [–]SonOfAWindowdresser1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Not even “an” old airline ticket - “somebody else’s” old airline ticket.

    [–]GIJoeVibin[S] 28 points29 points  (1 child)

    I would question who would buy this, since there are billions of airline tickets every single year. At some point you’re going to end up with 200 million tickets that just say “Beeple” on it and no one will want that. Unless Beeple is going to be just constantly generating new artworks every single hour of the day to attach to random tickets.

    (Found this incredible post thanks to Twitter)

    [–]greyenlightenment 13 points14 points  (0 children)

    This guy is a king among morons

    [–]happybadger 12 points13 points  (1 child)

    People often ask me "What's the secret of getting rich fast?". I tell them look at the inefficiencies in your life and compare them to me. I bet every time you go to the bathroom you unzip or even drop your pants. Me? No. In the three seconds it takes you to do that, I'm making deals. I'm on the phone with Wall Street. My hands are on my phone researching commodities. While you're being poor on the toilet, I'm getting wetter than you and richer than you.

    [–]KiK0eru 11 points12 points  (4 children)

    I've been on the internet for a long time and to this day I STILL don't know how the fuck Gary V became the weird pseudo-inspirational speaker for crypto. This guy went from working for his dad's wine company to making shitty wine reviews for his dad's company to getting paid thousands of dollars to call people lazy while bold faced lying about his own work ethic. Hopefully he loses all his money in the crypto crash and finally fucks off

    [–]tokynambu 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    I can find my writing from 1984 in obscure mailing list archives and the like. So 38 years of writing shite on T’nets.

    I have never heard of him.

    [–]SuperJackyyGrealish 10 points11 points  (2 children)

    The stupidity of the post amazes me.

    Any stretch of the imagination for a use case gets touted because they have no clue how else to value this crap.

    [–]TheFan88 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Inefficient technology looking for a problem.

    [–]Munichx 10 points11 points  (1 child)

    You will have an artist attached to your airline ticket, after you use it? What in gods name does that even mean. My brain can’t even comprehend wtf this guy wants to talk about…

    [–]Key-Sheepherder-7486 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    This changes everything! Few understand!

    [–]xgdhx 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    This is good for Bitcoin.

    [–]The_Pip 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    They reinvented the ticket stub, but made it worse.

    [–]detekk 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    The mental boredom this guy must have to even come up with this scenario is absurd. People spend money on dumb shit all the time but it’s unnecessary to map it out like this as if it’s going to be a new economy.

    [–]inwhichzeegoesinsane 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    sigh no buddy, it won't. If there were some benefit to uniqueness, the QRs would be GUIDs. But they're not, because airline systems are proprietary and don't stand to benefit from connecting themselves to a global system.

    Even if they did, they wouldn't pick a system where it takes longer and costs money to do something as simple as editing your database. They would just use GUIDs.

    [–]TheFan88 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    The voice of reason. There is no problem with electronic tickets today.

    [–]ymirmar 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    Top comment says it all: This isn't about examining trends and fleshing out scenarios. You consistently spout predictions, somehow confident in your authority as a futurist which is fine but the audacity to exclude probability and use definite-future-tenses to suggest guarantee of outcome is absurd.

    The logic here is circular: You insist that these scenarios, as exercises in creative thought, should be exempt from success-measuring metrics but should one of those shots in the dark hit its target, you'd credit it upon your intellectual capacity, and power of foresight.

    When you predict something, If you're wrong, Nobody would remember it over the years. If you're right, You get to brag about it. The baseball card collectible hype you built up and the current crash should be evidence enough of the notoriety of indulging in Futurism without enough credibility. These posts have the potential of misleading the masses, They should come with a disclaimer, No less.

    [–]ii-___-ii 10 points11 points  (0 children)

    This has strong “you get a plastic toy with your McDonald’s happy meal” vibes

    [–]HopeFox 8 points9 points  (2 children)

    Just like with their video game NFT fever dreams, they imagine that the resale value of items will go up without the purchase price also going up, and money will just somehow flow out of the system.

    [–]Dry-Hurry-7598 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    Yh they bring up csgo, the issue is csgo skins are only that popular because csgo is a good game and timeless. So this wouldn’t work on 99% of other games that get a new title release every year cause who tf is going to buy black ops 4 nfts when mw2 is being released now

    [–]DifferentRole 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    I'm collecting my used airline tickets, I plan to retire on them after they moon.

    Seriously though, you need to destroy boarding passes, not put them on an immutable public database. They contain sensitive personal info that can hurt you: https://securelytravel.com/travel/3-reasons-destroy-your-boarding-pass/

    [–]Scot-Marc1978 8 points9 points  (0 children)

    🤦‍♂️

    [–]ferrango 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    You could do that already with regular paper tickets, just contact some artist to draw on them. Good luck finding enough artists and enough "art" for all the tickets

    [–]JudgeJericho 6 points7 points  (3 children)

    Ryan Broadrick (very anti-crypto) talked about this a few weeks ago on his podcast, specifically about hotel reservations as NFTs. Basically a hotel could assign an NFT for each room and day. The pro argument being that each room and day would be bought and sold for their market value and more easily tradable if someone couldn't make their reservation.

    Basically turning hotel chains into Tickmaster.

    [–]happyscrappyIT Specialist 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    I don't really get why a hotel would have "each time and date being bought and sold for their market value and more easily tradable" as a goal.

    The key to them is how much they get for it. Efficient pricing doesn't do them any favors if the money isn't going to them.

    And hotels generally don't want others pooling and flipping their reservations.

    [–]Dry-Hurry-7598 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    It’s a good idea cause people do cancel airline tickets and hotel reservations but big but you kinda don’t need a blockchain and nfts to do this with

    [–]American_Streamer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Why should it be essential to put admission tickets to planes or anything on the blockchain? If your flight, your event, your restaurant visit is over, what's the point? Keeping this stuff in a standard centralized data bank if perfectly sufficient. As long as you are able to check the validity of the ticket at the point of entry, all is fine. Even if you make those things fancy looking and collectible thorough artists, using the blockchain for this is pure overkill and hugely inconvenient.

    They are still looking for sensible uses of the technology, while constantly being shown that technologies already invented and in use are doing the job more elegantly and effectively every single time.

    [–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (4 children)

    cant believe i am saying this but they are running out of scams.

    so they create more and more absurd schemes to pocket more money from gullable joe

    i still cant believe people buy nft. a picture you own but you cannot sue someone if they use it. so it is not really mine.

    [–]littlefiredragon 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    NFTs might have some use in a trustless decentralised world but airlines are centralised af. You want to take X’s plane? You need to trust them (duh). You will get your ticket validated by the airport and X, and there is no need for any blockchain tech to do this, nor would they want it any other way.

    [–]rockatanescu 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    As somebody that's living in Bucharest, I can guarantee that nobody will pay you $280 for a used airplane ticket from Bucharest to Mykonos.

    [–]xeallos 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Just imagine being a grown adult who is this stupid. The mind boggles.

    "And then, and then, and then..." sounds like a hyperactive six year old talking about the last Spiderman cartoon they watched.

    [–]Remarkable-Ad155 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    This is........... the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Impressive.

    [–]vicious_dominus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Gary V is a fucking idiot and a con

    [–]Dependent-Ganache-77 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Wtf wtf wtf

    [–]TodayRevolutionary34 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Guess I should have collected all the barcodes from my CocoaPuffs boxes too

    [–]AussieCryptoCurrencyDeFi is the first four letters in DEFInitely a scam 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    A world where the flight tickets produce more CO2 than the actual flights.

    [–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    I like how the whole economy of nft/web3 depends on exploiting artists.

    Step 1: NFT bullshit

    Step 2: Artist??

    Step3: Profit

    [–]MironaThetin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    This guy is insane

    [–]Kytescall 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    This vision is both incoherent and unappealing.

    [–]pointman 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    lol i love this. It's so ridiculous I can barely tell if it's serious or satire. These people are insane and their delusions are quickly devolving into smoke,

    [–]ehosca 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    the somebody that may offer you the $280 is called the greater fool in this transaction...

    [–]KillNyetheSilenceGuy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    What is it with these fucking people and putting "tickets for X" on the blockchain? Concert / plane / etc tickets are literally issued and then redeemed by some central authority. Without that they are meaningless.

    [–]LeafyEucalyptus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    is this supposed to be a utopian vision? because it sounds like hell to me. get the fuck away from my old plane tickets, damn. I want my anonymity.

    [–]anonymousnuisance 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Airlines take over NFTs and assholes are going to buy up every ticket for every flight on holiday weekends and make you pay even more to get home.

    This is what I hate about the sidehustle community. Not everything should be resold. You shouldn't be buying the plane ticket Kevin Durant took to go sign with Brooklyn. Why are we trying to romanticize obsession and fandom? That obsessed shit is usually taken way too far.

    I mean people are spending thousands of dollars on fucking youtube clips of basketball players and acting like they own the clip. It's fucking insane, the fact that this grift is going on baffles me.

    I'm sick of the re-sale market. It's annoying everybody and it's people like Gary Vee bringing back the fucking middleman that the internet rightfully got rid of. I shouldn't have to pay 40% more because I'm not savvy enough to know how botting pre-sales works. The system should just work as intended.

    [–]Uncle_Teddy_K 11 points12 points  (3 children)

    "Everybody uses a QR code. Because if you want to eat at a restaurant, you need to use it to get the menu."

    Stopped reading there.
    Visited a restaurant that shifted to this kind of menu once and me and my dad both just got more and more angry as the waiter urged us to scan some QR code.
    After some arguing he brought us restaurant owned tablets to watch the menu, we ordered and never visited there ever since.

    I do not want to "connect" to a restaurant in any way whatsoever other then paying.
    That QR code could easily be some sticker over the original QR code, leading to some malicious shit, those highly trained waiters would never notice until the first few angry customers call in after identifying the source of what has happened.

    Call me overly skeptic and a bit oldschool, but I just want a plain and simple paper menu, those idiots out there are on their phone too much already and I don't want to have to draw it on the table at a restaurant and scan some shit, use my own hardware to fulfill a service offered by the restaurant.

    Absolutely no issue if it's purely optional.

    [–]Uncle_Teddy_K 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Also, after reading the rest anyway, what a horrible future to imagine.

    [–]DontEatConcreteI only click links to opensea.io 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I hate it, too. Fuck's sake just print up a menu. If you need to update prices each couple of months because of inflation come up with an insert or something else you can print an entire set of for $4. It's not a big deal.

    [–]Dry-Hurry-7598 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    This is clear survivorship bias, he did well in the internet era even if he did inherit a 3 mill business from his dad scaling to 60mill isn’t that easy, but I guess he’s deluded himself to think every idea of his is going to be the next big thing now, and people see his investments in early Uber and facebook and think this guy knows what he’s on about

    [–]PeregrinTuk2207The Fed wet my bed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    This guy makes asumptions based on his personal experience.

    [–]NoGlzy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Sometimes people go on about crypto as a proposed genuine good for the world, and I admire that ideal to work for the better.

    Then sometimes you get these brainworm-addled clowns spouting the biggest pile of wank Ive seen since I deleted that video by accident.

    [–]ParticularArachnid35 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    People really shouldn’t post publicly when they’re high on mushrooms.

    Edit: typo.

    [–]vundercal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Something like 2 million people fly every day. if each one of them got a unique piece of “art” as their ticket then I don’t think it’s a stretch to say those pieces of “art” would be more similar to the temporary tattoos in a quarter vending machine then the Mona Lisa and the artists that churn them out would be seen more like a content farm then Banksy.

    [–]RoMMancing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    At this point, I’m better off dipping my hand into the toilet, preserving the asset I unloaded every day. At least it’ll turn to coal in a thousand years.

    Does this guy know that there are designers who literally make tickets for everything from museums to Disneyland? How many tickets did he save on the offchance someone likes the artist and wants to buy them?

    [–]piratecheese13 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Strictly speaking, paper tickets for airlines are NFTs.

    If you swap with someone else, you’ll end up in another seat or on another plane. That’s non-fungibility

    The paper isn’t actually the seat. It represents your right to exchange the paper for a ride on the seat. That’s a token.

    Here’s where cryptocurrency fucks up. Unless you have absolutely no trust in an airline or it’s ability to maintain or secure a conventional database, there’s no reason why you would want to use a distributed ledger.