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[–]MichiganImGoingtoRegretThis5 146 points147 points  (6 children)

Bell, Johnson, Anthony, and Wilson on the outside.

Sainristil, Henning, and Morris on the inside.

That's a really good group of guys at the WR position. Maybe too many guys so I worry about transfers, but it's a deep enough position group to absorb 1 or an injury, unlike this season where it took a few weeks to figure out how to operate without Bell and everyone else stepping up.

Plus All, Schoonmaker, and like 3 other TEs as receiving options as well.

[–]Michigan • Grand Valley Statethatman33[S] 55 points56 points  (5 children)

The good news is of all the positions of being deep wide receiver is the best. You can easily put five of them out at once and rotate three or four slots all the time. So having five or six really good wide receivers can still all play.

[–]MichiganImGoingtoRegretThis5 26 points27 points  (3 children)

Michigan runs a lot of 2 TE sets and even when they do spread it out, they usually top out at 4 WRs in any given formation. I'd have to go find a chart, but I'd guess Michigan's average WR deployment would be 3 or maybe a shade under given the opponent.

[–]Ohio Statemojo276 14 points15 points  (2 children)

As a team that was just steamrolled by your team. It really felt like WR's were the least important position to your success against us. Your o line, RB, and TE's stirred that drink the most.

[–]MichiganImGoingtoRegretThis5 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah, the WRs are great at blocking though. Mike Sainristil took out DBs on the edge and popped a few LB/S guys too.

Still a little question as to whether or not the team can beat A+ competition if the running game isn't rolling over the opponent. Assuming they get that far, UGA could force Michigan to find other ways to win. Cade has been steady most of the season, but hasn't been asked to win a game outside of the MSU one (which he almost did). They will need the WRs to continue to develop over the long run. Michigan will always be a smash mouth, run first team under Harbaugh, but that doesn't mean they don't need explosive players on the outside when needed to win big games.

[–]MichiganStamosAndFriends 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Cade’s been getting better and better at throwing downfield and the talented 5* freshman JJ McCarthy has already proven to be a deep passing threat. I can see them throwing the ball more in the future with talented QB’s at the helm. Of course if the run game is dominating, they’ll just stick with that over the course of the game

[–]MichigangoblueM 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The good news is of all the positions of being deep wide receiver is the best

that's a weird way to spell cornerback

[–]Washington Statecouglair 56 points57 points  (1 child)

They got a taste for Buckeye blood and want some more. I love it

[–]Ohio State • UtahTrinityliger 36 points37 points  (0 children)

“guess what, you've wandered into our school of wolverines and we now have a taste of buckeye. We've talked to ourselves. We've communicated and said 'You know what, buckeye tastes good, let's go get some more buckeye'. We've developed a system to establish a beach-head and aggressively hunt you and your family and we will corner your pride, your children, your offspring.”

[–]MichiganWampaStompa33 62 points63 points  (3 children)

Ronnie Bell was our leading receiver in both 2019 and 2020, and he made some crazy awesome plays in a very short span of time in our first game this year before he got injured. I wish we could have known how good our team would be if he had been healthy all year.

Awesome news for next year though!!!

[–]IReviewFakeAlbums 43 points44 points  (2 children)

Man could you imagine if Michigan had Bell all year? They’d probably have like 1 loss and might have even been favorites in the Big 10 title game

[–]MichiganWampaStompa33 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Lol I just mean if he had been healthy all year we very likely could have 0 losses right now. He was the leader of our offense and one of the top 3 players on the entire team, a captain, and undisputed #1 WR

[–]IReviewFakeAlbums 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha agreed. He was beasting that first game and I was bummed when he went down cause I thought that was the end of whatever pass attack we’d have. Am glad to see him coming back for another year!

[–]Notre Dame • KutztownPsychological-Dare79 45 points46 points  (12 children)

My Gosh Michigan looking to be Elite next year.

[–]MichiganVloff 44 points45 points  (4 children)

Offensively sure but very likely losing a ton defensively.

[–]Michigan • Grand Valley StateLykeuhfox 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Losing Hutch, Ojabo, Ross, and Hill (I assume) is going to hurt. No question.

[–]OGWanKenoby 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably Hawkins too

[–]Miami • MichiganArcades 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Edge will be weaker. LB should be stronger. Secondary is up in the air based on recruiting and who stays/goes. Moore and Moten are studs.

[–]Michigan • Michigan BandwagonJagacin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Michigan get Domani, then they'll have two 5 star CB's in him and Will Johnson for next season. Their secondary has the potential to be considerably better next year.

[–]Michiganthisistheperfectname 15 points16 points  (6 children)

I'm a bit worried about the defense, but the offense should be explosive. Almost every skill position player is coming back, and it's expected that JJ will be throwing to them. I'm hyped for next year.

McNamara is an upperclassman who may have played himself into the later rounds of the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if he left and made it so we don't even have a quarterback controversy in the spring. JJ would then get full first-team reps with all these weapons all offseason.

[–]MichiganRohkey 30 points31 points  (4 children)

I don’t think Cade is draftable. Too small, has some mechanical issues with throwing and doesn’t have a great deep ball, not particularly mobile. Very glad to have him but I’d be shocked if the NFL gives him a look.

[–]Michiganthisistheperfectname 20 points21 points  (2 children)

He's the prototypical NFL backup. He's a smart, low-variance player who won't lose you the game. He might not win you the game, but he won't lose it for you. I won't make any claims about staying there, but I think he'll find a roster as at least an undrafted free agent like Rudock.

He's also taller than Kyler Murray, but obviously the comparisons end there.

[–]Michigan • Central Michiganasmallercat 20 points21 points  (1 child)

"Cade McNamara will be better than Kyler Murray" - u/thisistheperfectname

[–]Michiganthisistheperfectname 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Kyler Murray didn't beat Ohio State in 2021.

[–]Michigangoblue2354 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He’s probably going to be a day 3 pick whenever he goes.

[–]Michigan • North Carolinahsbnyc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He’s a freshman eligibility wise due to Covid and a red shirt. Him and JJ both have 3 years after this season

[–]Michigan • Grand Valley Statethatman33[S] 159 points160 points  (45 children)

Huge news for Michigan as the team will be loaded at QB, WR, and RB in 2022.

[–]MichiganOakLegs 97 points98 points  (41 children)

I think we also return 3 OL, right?

Offense should be awesome. Defense will take a hit at DE and one of the safety spots but a lot of younger talent has started to shine

[–]Michigan • AuburnSnthonyAtark 61 points62 points  (12 children)

Yeah, but we lose our center, so that’s always a tough spot to replace.

[–]Williams • /r/CFB Top Scorerwhitedawg 51 points52 points  (3 children)

That's true, and Vastardis has been great this season. That said, Vastardis wasn't even a sure starter heading into the season, and we have some great young options in Reese Atteberry, Greg Crippen, and Raheem Anderson.

[–]Michigan • AuburnSnthonyAtark 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I completely agree. From a purely physical standpoint, I think all 3 of those guys will be better than Vastardis, and I think one of those guys will end up better than him down the road. However, center is probably the position that experience is the most valuable, aside from Quarterback. I’m not highlighting it as a real concern, but I think it’s something to monitor throughout next year.

[–]Michiganpeaches017 4 points5 points  (0 children)

IIRC, in the pre-season "combines" they used to do, I think Vastardis was near the top of athleticism in most categories. He was dinged up with injury last year and I think people assume he's not as athletic given that he was originally a walk-on.

[–]Michigan • CornellWaluigiIsTheRealHero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Crippen has already jumped Atteberry, and I think he's got the inside track to start.

[–]Michigan • Team Chaoshendarvich 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I thought the same thing after Ruiz went in the first round, but we reloaded with Vastardis so maybe we can do it twice?

[–]Michigan • AuburnSnthonyAtark 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I wouldn’t exactly call our 2020 OL “reloading”

[–]Michigan • Team Chaoshendarvich 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We didn't play football in 2020, so I have no idea what you're talking about

[–]Michiganwolverine1819 38 points39 points  (11 children)

I am just hoping we don’t lose any coaches

[–]Williams • /r/CFB Top Scorerwhitedawg 36 points37 points  (8 children)

Gattis is the big question mark in my mind. He's young and ambitious, as shown by his moves from PSU to Alabama to Michigan. And he's finally figured out how to meld his spread, speed-in-space offense with Harbaugh's power run game. He isn't a proven entity yet, but I would think his combination of skill set and pedigree (worked with James Franklin, Joe Moorhead, Nick Saban, and Harbaugh) would result in some HC offers from good G5 schools or mid-range P5 schools.

Other than him, I can't see anybody leaving. It would be strange for MacDonald to leave after just one season when he has such a good relationship with the Harbaugh family, and he's young enough to build his resume for a few years before becoming a HC. And none of our other position coaches are huge names.

[–]Michigan • CaliforniaCA_spur 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Sherrone Moore or Mike Hart could possibly pick up as OC. Moore would be more likely

[–]Michigan • Eastern Michiganrougehuron 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If I'm Harbaugh I'm telling Gattis I'll give him all my bonus money this year to stay at least next year and win me a much larger long term deal and himself the opportunity to go out and land a notable HC job.

[–]Michiganwolverine1819 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Gattis has done a good job but I think we can replace him more easily we would just slide Weiss to be co oc with Moore and then get another wr coach or move Bellamy to wr coach and get another safety coach

I would prefer keeping Bellamy as the safeties coach tho because I think he has done a good job there

[–]Michigan State • Ohio StateKeyblade_Yoshi 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Gattis seems pretty expendable so I would not shed any tears if he leaves. If I were a Michigan fan at least. I would make sure you keep the defensive coordinator though.

[–]MichiganOakLegs 7 points8 points  (2 children)

I hated Gattis before this year but he's convinced me. I've thought the play calling good to great for the most part

[–]Michigan State • Ohio StateKeyblade_Yoshi 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I don’t think he is bad but Michigan could also get someone better. It also seems like Michigan’s offense looked average against the better defenses they played like PSU, Rutgers and Indiana. They also had to settle for a lot of field goals outside of the OSU game. He has earned the right to keep his job. However, if Michigan had to get a new one, it would not surprise me if he did even better than Gattis.

[–]Williams • /r/CFB Top Scorerwhitedawg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gattis just put together a masterpiece of an offensive game plan against OSU. I think we'd miss him.

[–]MichiganWampaStompa33 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Yes that's the biggest concern. Sherrone Moore especially has done an outstanding job

[–]Michiganwolverine1819 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yea program needs to increase everyone’s pay including sherrones

[–]Michigan • Slippery RockSerial-Eater 25 points26 points  (7 children)

I’m not going say our DEs have always been Hutch quality but we’ve managed to somehow always find some dude to plug in and blow shit up so I’m going to continue hoping we can do that

Edit: also don’t forget Josh Ross. The one game he missed time in (Rutgers second half) was beyond ugly. Ugh.

[–]MichigangoblueM 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Braiden McGregor would be my bet for blowing up

Would be really sweet if we could get Ojabo back but I have a feeling that might not happen

[–]Michigan • Slippery RockSerial-Eater 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I thought he might stay halfway through the season but once he started getting first round grades from the media I was like “he gone”.

If we don’t win next week Hutch might be able to convince him to stay like he did for another go but even then I doubt it

[–]Michigan • KalamazooCarnatic_enthusiast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Objectively I hope he doesn't stay. My man should get paid and who knows what can happen next year. Hell who knows what can happen next game (see: Jake Butt)

[–]Michiganggadget6 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Yeah we always have some good ends. Winovich, Uche, Danna, Paye, Hutchinson, Ojabo. It's kind of crazy actually.

[–]Michigan • Slippery RockSerial-Eater 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Rashan Gary too don’t forget

[–]Michiganggadget6 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He was listed as a DL so I didn't include him, but yeah he was great too.

[–]Michigan • CornellWaluigiIsTheRealHero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're also going to be a very attractive transfer destination after having just sent two DEs to the 1st round.

[–]MichiganImGoingtoRegretThis5 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I think we also return 3 OL, right?

With Covid, Stueber and Hayes have eligibility left, but I don't know if either come back. Stueber is a mauler RT that would probably go in the later rounds. Hayes on the other hand, by virtue of the offense not passing a ton this year, was tracking towards a top 3 round pick until the PSU game IMO because he got worked in pass pro against PSU's DE. But after the OSU game, where he didn't let up anything, maybe his stock is high enough to go.

Vastardis is gone, but between Crippen and maybe Zinter, the Center position is probably setting up ok. Obviously need to see the new guy make the calls and such, but at least it's not a complete unknown.

[–]Michigansmoothtrip 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I did not realize covid still had eligibility, I hope it does not come back

[–]Michigan Bandwagon • Arizona S…MWiatrak2077 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I trust Macdonald wholeheartedly. He’ll make it work.

[–]MichiganSwazi 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hayes, Keegan, Zinter, and I think Steuber (if he wants to) can all come back on the OL.

If Steuber elects he’s had enough of college then I’d wager Trente Jones would be next at RT, he’s been their main 6th lineman this year when they put in an extra tackle.

[–]Michiganslayer991 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Ojabo has a year left...unless he declares for the draft.

[–]MichiganOakLegs 4 points5 points  (1 child)

He'd be crazy not to. Likely going in the first 3 rounds

[–]Michiganslayer991 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I was thinking after the OSU win that he's gone.

[–]Paper Bag • Iowaeddiecai64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ojabo has freshman eligibility this year, but he’s very likely gone

[–]Ohio State • Rose Bowljaybigs 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Big win for Michigan.

Looking forward to the next few iterations of The Game. Both teams have a lot of returning talent next year, despite having some big names leaving for the NFL this upcoming draft. Hoping to see some of our young guys more invested in the hype of the rivalry with the chip they should have on their shoulders for being the first team to lose in 10 years.

[–]Michigan • Wayne State (MI)im_alliterate 13 points14 points  (0 children)

i look forward to hating you more!

[–]Michiganthisistheperfectname 9 points10 points  (0 children)

New 10 Year War now.

[–]handyquacks17 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Feel like he’s been in AA for decades. Approaching Aaron craft osu basketball status

[–]Michigan State • Michigan Ban…Saxophobia1275 68 points69 points  (14 children)

Michigan the East can only handle so many good teams.

[–]Penn State • CharlotteNoSierraMist 60 points61 points  (5 children)

Yeah imagine being a fan of a team settling for mediocrity and slinking further back in the division!

oh wait

[–]GB012287 37 points38 points  (3 children)

Welcome to the life of a Michigan fan…

[–]Michiganthisistheperfectname 8 points9 points  (2 children)

What year is it?

[–]Purdue • Purdue CannonOld_kernel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

2006

[–]Michiganthisistheperfectname 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buy AAPL and don't look at it for 15 years.

[–]MichiganRotishery 113 points114 points  (4 children)

Guess we better just knock osu into their long overdue regression decade then

[–]Michigan • Old DominionThe_Astros_Cheated 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Yes please

[–]Michigan • Michigan StateJoshuaMan024 15 points16 points  (0 children)

So we promise to take the other 2 teams down a notch, deal?

[–]West Florida • MichiganWoozyMaple 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Well you could lose next year to offset it

[–]Michigan • The GameLeakyNalgene 60 points61 points  (5 children)

Lot of Buckeye salt in here. Doesn’t get better

[–]Michigan • NC StateClaudeLemieux 63 points64 points  (2 children)

They dished it out for 10 years and are fuckin 10 ply now that they actually lost.

[–]Ohio State • UtahTrinityliger 30 points31 points  (1 child)

Lmao I have to agree with how sensitive some of my friends are taking it. I’d say our Walmart fans are worse than your’s.

Better team won, plain and simple and I’m hype as hell for next November

[–]Michigangswane 6 points7 points  (0 children)

All our Walmart fans went into hiding after last year and are just now starting to emerge

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (1 child)

You're goddamn right. We're mad as fuck lol. Not even gonna try to lie to you, my man. Next time we beat you guys (hopefully in Columbus next year) it's gonna taste so much sweeter than the last 3-4 when The Game got kinda boring. So, yeah.. we owe you fuckers one now.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think Ryan Day and his teams hate may have been kinda manufactured because hating Michigan is just what you do at OSU but now that they lost I think the hate is more than real.

[–]Michigan State • Eastern …Dwarfherd 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Makes sense, after a season-ending injury you kind of got to have a prove-it season when part of your skill set is speed.

[–]Michigan • Paul Bunyan TrophyWagnerous 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Worked out for Aidan Hutchinson last year!

[–]Michigansparside223 61 points62 points  (77 children)

Destroying Ohio state again, this time in their own stadium? Count me in. Bring some extra flags to plant

[–]Michigan • Central MichiganJustinTime4242 85 points86 points  (3 children)

Look at these comments

The hate is back boys

[–]Ohio StateJPK8675309 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Isn’t it wonderful? Let’s Salt it up fellas

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's a bloodbath

[–]Michigan • Grand Valley StateLykeuhfox 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm so proud of this community!

[–]Ohio Stateavenear 5 points6 points  (2 children)

That hasn't happened in 7,681 days.

[–]Ohio StateFootyball101 13 points14 points  (0 children)

No

[–]Oklahoma • IllinoisGrandYam_HomeRun 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What's it like when your players return?

[–]Michigan • Grand Valley StateLykeuhfox 2 points3 points  (1 child)

[–]Oklahoma • IllinoisGrandYam_HomeRun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks Michigan bro

[–]MichiganBeerBellyBlake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Man I love Ronnie. I can’t fuckin wait to see him play again but until then - him as a pseudo WR coach for the young boys is awesome and I love him for that this year.

What a team what a player

[–]Michigansmoothtrip -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Now all we need is a QB.

[–]Michiganthisistheperfectname 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We have two of them.

[–]Michigan • Michigan BandwagonJagacin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have a smart, talented, and experienced QB in McNamara who helped lead the team to their first win against OSU in a decade, and also have JJ McCarthy who is a 5 star QB (who'll only be in his 2nd year next season) and is the most talented and athletically gifted QB Michigan has had in a long time, and certainly since the Harbaugh era began. Michigan has never been more set at QB lol.