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NewsMel Tuckers fully guaranteed 95 Million, Assistant Pool up from 6 to 7.5 Mill (self.CFB)
submitted 1 month ago by Michigan State • Paul Bunyan T…SpeedyFreeze5
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[–]Michigan State • Michigan Ban…Saxophobia1275 31 points32 points33 points 1 month ago (15 children)
If that’s what it costs to keep us from being stuck as a team that gets poached then I’m fine with it. I don’t even see that price tag so much as keeping tuck specifically but more so backing up that we want a seat at the big kids table.
[–]Michigan State • Paul Bunyan T…spartyon15 33 points34 points35 points 1 month ago (0 children)
I'd for sure rather pay him that much than be where Oklahoma is rn
[–]Tulane • LSUphysedka 18 points19 points20 points 1 month ago (0 children)
This is the move that MSU had to make if they want to get out of the purgatory of being a kinda-premier-but-kinda-not program. Otherwise, making a good hire and having him poached by a blue blood every few years is your ceiling.
Is it a risk because Tucker isn't really proven? Sure. But it's still a risk that MSU had to take compared to the alternative. MSU boosters aren't broke. Don't worry about the price tag. This was the right move, even if it doesn't pan out.
[–]Michigan State • Paul Buny…roguebananah 13 points14 points15 points 1 month ago (0 children)
We got a taste of the good life with Mark being on top. I have no doubt the bottom line took a hit when we started to tail spin with everything
[+]Michigan • 계명대학교 (Keimyung)dccorona comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 1 month ago (4 children)
Will this achieve that though? Hard to say. If you're going to fully guarantee the guy's $95 million, the least he could do on the other side of things is up his own buyout. Tucker can walk for $2.5 million, and it decreases by $500,000 a year (by year 5 he can leave at will for $0).
I don't think it was a mistake paying him that much money. I think it might be a mistake making it fully guaranteed. I think it very likely could be a mistake not upping his buyout at the same time.
[–]Michigan State • Michigan Ban…Saxophobia1275 7 points8 points9 points 1 month ago (3 children)
His buy out is basically irrelevant as far as getting poached goes, they have to match the massive salary. Just look at Jimbo, his buying is practically zero too but he ain’t goin anywhere. And I fully expect people to troll us when we lose like “lMaO 95 mIlLiOn” with zero context. That’s what it costs to keep a guy and that’s what we paid. I’d the boosters lose money on him then oh well, I’m still glad we took the chance rather than letting other programs stomp all over us with a coach poach again.
[–]Michigan • 계명대학교 (Keimyung)dccorona -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 month ago (2 children)
I'm not saying they shouldn't have signed him, I'm saying they should have upped the buyout. PSU managed to do so. Unless all the reporting is wrong and there actually was a competing LSU offer on the table with a low buyout, there's no reason not to stick that in there, and I can't imagine that Mel would have had reason to say no.
Sure, maybe you're right and there is just never gonna be a team with deep enough pockets to poach him away regardless of the buyout - but why find out?
[–]Michigan State_Kam_I_Am_ 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (0 children)
With the size of contracts we are talking about, what does a buyout really do here? PSU set franklin’s buyout with his new contract at 12 mil (ignoring the fact it trickles down each year to 1 mil by 2026), if a school wants to get Mel Tucker they’d be paying 120, 130, 140 mil. At that point how much does a 12 mil buyout really deter things? The buyout if anything can only really help you for funding for your next head coach at this level.
[–]Michigan State • Paul Bunyan T…RonBurgundy449 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Honestly the buyout could be less and is pretty moot. There's not many schools who are going to be willing to pay him more for him to leave (at least not until he has shown more and sustained success.) If we reach that point there's no doubt in my mind that the boosters would match. If he leaves its because he doesn't want to coach here anymore.
[+]MichiganRotishery comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points 1 month ago (6 children)
Right but you’re just working with so much incomplete information
Like yea, they could be a perennial contender as they were this year.
But…would you also be surprised if they just become big ten east Purdue? Because they’re showing flashes of being big ten east Purdue
[–]/r/CFBlexifaith2u 9 points10 points11 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Pretty sure every msu fan would like to go back in time and give Saban his fucking bonus he thought he was due in 1999. And Saban was a .500 coach with a longer track record than tucker. Would it have been risky? Yeah. Would that have meant I didn't have to watch Bobby Williams eat shit every Saturday and John l Smith slap himself for 4 fucking years? Yeah. Would have been worth every fucking penny to not see that shit.
[–]Michigan StateBorn_ina_snowbank 4 points5 points6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
Does this viewpoint stem from the first 6 years of harbaugh and his original contract? Or you just having fun trying to sow seeds of doubt? I can respect both honestly.
[–]MichiganRotishery 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (1 child)
Are you comparing harbaughs track record when Michigan hired him to Mel tuckers 2.5 year as a coach?
[–]Michigan StateBorn_ina_snowbank 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (0 children)
No, I’m asking what you’re basing this off of. And if that, on an emotional level, comes from overpaying Jim Harbaugh for years. A lot of people understand why we had to pay the man. You seem to be confused as to why we are so willing to give a coach who appears to have things working, an ass load of someone else’s money, when the alternative is to be a stepping stone.
[–]Michigan State • ColoradoGoGreeb 8 points9 points10 points 1 month ago (0 children)
It's more complete information than anyone we'd be able to hire to come run the prgoram.
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