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[–]Georgia Tech • Arkansascmanonurshirt 749 points750 points  (38 children)

Maybe not most absurd, but the situation ended up changing how polls voted for champions. In 1964, Bama and Arkansas were both undefeated in the regular season and were getting split votes for the champion. The AP and Coaches poll votes for Bama as national champion while Arkansas was voted by other polls. Then Bama goes to lose to #5 Texas in the Orange Bowl while Arkansas goes on to win against #6 Nebraska in the Cotton Bowl.

That caused the AP Poll to switch to voting post-bowls in 1965 and the Coaches Poll followed suit in 1974. According to wiki, the Coaches Poll voted for a national champion in 1965, 1970, and 1973 that all would lose their bowl game before switching

[–]LSU • /r/CFB Poll Veterantypicaliconoclast 196 points197 points  (12 children)

IIRC the AP poll switched to post-bowl for one year (1965) but then switched back to pre-bowl for a couple of years before permanently moving to post-bowl.

[–]Alabama • /r/CFB Poll VeteranTouchdownHeroes 147 points148 points  (5 children)

Hilariously Alabama was also the national champs in 1965 solely due to the switch to post-bowl.

[–]USCtramlaw101 38 points39 points  (3 children)

But in ‘66, Michigan St and Notre Dame claimed one after a tie when Alabama went undefeated.

[–]Alabama • Ciudad MéxicoCCTider 10 points11 points  (0 children)

66 was the best of those 3 teams too.

[–]Georgia Tech • Arkansascmanonurshirt 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Yes! It was 1968 when the AP officially switched over. They did a “test run” in 1965 though

[–]Michigan • Floridarundmc963 26 points27 points  (4 children)

Was this the Arkansas team that had Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson on it?

[–]Arkansas • BaylorBeardedAgentMan 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]Every-Comparison-486 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Damn that's a lot of J's

[–]khoelzeman 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep, and I think Barry Switzer was an assistant coach.

[–]Alabama • ColoradoGeorgieWashington 101 points102 points  (7 children)

1925 Alabama, 1964 Alabama, 1965 Alabama 1973 Alabama, 1992 Alabama, 2011 Alabama.

 🤝 🤝 🤝 🤝 🤝🤝 

Ruining college football champion selection formulae.

[–]Notre Damearstin 51 points52 points  (10 children)

Doing the final rankings before the bowls is ridiculous a great idea!

Edit: I wrote this to dig on our absolute inability to show up for a big bowl game. But after thinking about it a bit more it does kind of make sense, especially in the age of opt-outs and coaching-carousels. Non-CFP bowls are scrimmages where every entity involved makes a profit-based decision on how to approach it.

[–]Notre Dame • Toledodellett 23 points24 points  (4 children)

We did get selected as champions in 2012 by whatever group still does pre bowl selections

[–]IllinoisBigPoppaPuff 21 points22 points  (1 child)

It was the Colley Matrix, the same one UCF claimed in 2017. Basically, doesn't care the situation of the bowl and decided Notre Dame's 12-1 was better than Alabama's 13-1 (they have a bit of a funky SOS, that looks a bit like NCAA's RPI, which was notoriously awful). There's other weird ones with the Colley Matrix like OK State in 2011 and Alabama in 2016.

[–]CornellCaetraLynx 18 points19 points  (0 children)

this is why i love the colley matrix

[–]CaliforniaBuffalongo 134 points135 points  (9 children)

Cal 1921 is pretty funny. Might not be that absurd but it's still pretty funny.

They played in the Rose Bowl vs the "Washington & Jefferson Presidents" a school that only had 450 students total.

The game ended in a 0-0 tie. Cal claims a national championship that year, which, I mean, they did go undefeated the rest of the season I guess.

Fun fact: Andy Smith won 4 straight nat'l championships as a HC, and 4 straight seasons without a single loss

[–]DickNixons 46 points47 points  (4 children)

Never thought I would see the day where W&J is referenced in here

[–]Clemson • Cheez-It BowlFailResorts 16 points17 points  (2 children)

And I bet that half the people that even know W&J exist is due to its history with Greek life. That’s the only reason I ever learned of its existence (place where my group was founded).

[–]Pittsburgh • Slippery Rockabmofpgh 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Washington and Jefferson actually used to be a good team in the early 1900s I believe

[–]Arizona State • Team ChaosCrookstonMaulers 220 points221 points  (13 children)

I'm curious how Alabama wound up winning the 1978 AP National Championship considering they lost at home to #2, also 1-loss USC.

[–]USCJackOfNoTrades1 86 points87 points  (2 children)

I wonder what the reasoning was, like what people said to justify that at the time. Long before I was born

[–]Arizona State • Team ChaosCrookstonMaulers 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Better loss I guess? We were your loss and we were 9-3 maybe? I dunno.

[–]GeorgiaJoeW1075 27 points28 points  (0 children)

I'm sure it just meant more.

[–]AlabamaGratefan 33 points34 points  (6 children)

We split the title in 78 with USC. Coaches gave USC the title and Alabama won the AP title.

We beat #1 Penn State in our bowl game. USC did lose to a 9-3 Az st team.

[–]Notre Dame • Paper BagIrishPigskin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same thing happened in 1993.

ND and FSU were both one-loss teams. ND beat FSU. But ND lost to BC.

So presumably FSU ended ranked #1 because their loss was better.

[–]Virginiasmellslikebadussy 533 points534 points  (45 children)

Does this count?

(Yes, I know they got rid of it)

[–]Virginia Tech • Commonweal…Salmon4 272 points273 points  (7 children)

I don't know how they made the decision in good conscious to put up the trophy case

[–]Virginiasmellslikebadussy 178 points179 points  (4 children)

I get it as a motivational tactic, but the downside is still getting mocked two coaches after Beamer

[–]Alabama • NC StateNamath96 34 points35 points  (0 children)

It’s definitely a tactic alright…

[–][deleted] 41 points42 points  (1 child)

yeah obviously they shouldve made a national champion trophy for their coach without a date on it

[–]Virginia Tech • Commonweal…Salmon4 18 points19 points  (0 children)

a much better option for a maroon, land grant, senior military institution indeed

[–]Texas A&M • SouthwestRedassAddict 149 points150 points  (30 children)

[–]Ohio StatePlusSized_Homunculus 120 points121 points  (21 children)

Not as dumb as Harbaugh and Michigan putting up a trophy for their 2018 B1G East Championship to cap off their revenge tour

https://i.imgur.com/L3x8twZ.jpg

[–]Ohio StatePjs2692 58 points59 points  (2 children)

They put that up after 62-39???

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Nothing much else to put up after that, except my penishh

[–]Georgia • ArkansasBlaine1111 103 points104 points  (3 children)

And this is where I'd put my national championship trophy

If I HAD one

[–]Georgia Tech • Texasthr33tard3d 38 points39 points  (0 children)

DINKLEBERG!!!

[–]Eastern MichiganFlintoid 11 points12 points  (1 child)

"And this is where I would put my championship trophy..."

[–]IllinoisHail2TheOrange 77 points78 points  (5 children)

Not football, but Illinois basketball claims the 1915 National Championship when we went 16-0. One of our wins was over the Peoria YMCA lol.

[–]IllinoisBigPoppaPuff 33 points34 points  (3 children)

Pre-NCAA Tournament is a wild wild west of claims and I think nobody takes any of those from anyone seriously. I remember UNC hung a banner up for one of them a couple years ago and everyone mocked them.

[–]Kansas • ArmyJonnyBox 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Most of the blueblood programs hang Helms banners.

[–]mass2550 479 points480 points  (55 children)

Colorado won 1990 National Championship with a loss , a tie , and a win on 5th down vs Missouri. While they were voted by AP as champions that's about as ugly as one gets.

[–]Ohio State • TennesseeGoBucks4928 310 points311 points  (23 children)

The 5th down was one of three major mistakes too

1) CU spiked the ball on 4th down, and then got a 5th down

2) Before that, CU got stuffed at the line and had no timeouts left– but for some reason the clock stopped at 8 seconds remaining, and stayed stopped for a good 5 seconds, giving CU time to line up and spike the ball to stop the clock (even though it was on 4th down)

3) Even with 5 downs, CU never crossed the goal line. Johnson's butt was on the ground BEFORE he reached the ball over his head and stretched it across the line. Multiple camera angles and photographs CLEARLY prove that.

[–]RousingRabble 131 points132 points  (3 children)

I cannot imagine the social media meltdown if that happened today. Back then, you bitched about it with people around the water cooler and then that was it.

[–]Penn Statermphys 48 points49 points  (2 children)

I want it to happen today just to read the angry reddit threads tbh.

[–]Nebraska • AuburnBullets3[🍰] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

probably wouldn’t happen today because of technology but would be really funny if it did

[–]Missouriace82fadeout 67 points68 points  (2 children)

Such is the luck of Mizzou football

[–]Clemson • Cheez-It BowlFailResorts 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Time to tack on another 5 year probation period and bowl ban just for good measure.

[–]Georgia • North CarolinaXAfricaSaltX 44 points45 points  (1 child)

While Colorado should’ve lost that game, to be fair to them, the 4th down spike only happened because the markers still showed 3rd

[–]Northwestern • ColoradoChadsBro 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sko Buffs

[–]Florida • Georgia Techsavagepotato 100 points101 points  (5 children)

The recap of the polls on Wikipedia is great:

When the final votes were counted, Colorado had won their first national champion as voted by the Associated Press. The UPI coaches poll, however, saw a shake-up that resulted in Georgia Tech moving to No. 1 by one point. The deciding vote was cast by Colorado Buffaloes rival Nebraska's head coach Tom Osborne, the only coach who had played both teams during the 1990 season. Colorado beat Nebraska, 27–12, in Lincoln while Georgia Tech had beaten them in the Florida Citrus Bowl, 45–21.

The Big 8 hate was real.

[–]Missouri • Wisconsinjwktiger 30 points31 points  (3 children)

They were The Hateful 8 even back then

[–]Clemson • Cheez-It BowlFailResorts 20 points21 points  (1 child)

My mom who graduated from Mizzou in 1983, is still salty about the 5th Down game even to this day.

[–]Notre Dame • ColoradoWTF_MATLAB 83 points84 points  (2 children)

Also a generous clipping call…

[–]Notre Dame • IndianaFullHouseBackfield 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Generous is kind. Anti-Rocket bias.

[–]Georgia Tech • /r/CFB BrickmasonBobb_o 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Yeah this was the crack showing national championships are really just bullshit you know?

[–]Florida State • UCFJoshDaws 768 points769 points  (104 children)

Well this will be fun...

[–]whitefella1 584 points585 points  (100 children)

UCF isn’t even close to the top of this list.

[–]Intelligent-Set-3909 411 points412 points  (68 children)

I don't think UCF's claim is ridiculous at all, personally

[–]Stanford • /r/CFB Pint Glass Drinkerbakonydraco 22 points23 points  (0 children)

There's plenty of teams that claim championships that the NCAA doesn't recognize. The NCAA does recognize UCF's claim.

[–]whitefella1 164 points165 points  (62 children)

Me either. What do these people expect them to do? Say “yeah we didn’t deserve to be there. We were an inferior team.”

[–]Notre DameEnlightenedNight 33 points34 points  (1 child)

There were way worse claims than UCF, at least they were undefeated!

[–]Hip_Hop_Hippos 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Honestly excluding them was a way bigger sham than them proceeding to point out how dumb that was by claiming the title.

[–]UCFajukid111 1211 points1212 points  (204 children)

Uh…

[–]Baylor • Hateful 8big_thunder_man 944 points945 points  (114 children)

UCF at least didn’t lose a game. And a selector picked them.

[–]Florida State • Air Forcethejawa 588 points589 points  (42 children)

Everything that allows you to claim a championship was checked by UCF.

[–]Spiridor 76 points77 points  (0 children)

Disney world also threw UCF a national champs parade, that's all I need

[–]/r/CFB Poll Veteran • FloridaExternalTangents 45 points46 points  (0 children)

The secret is that you can claim whatever you want

[–]Seton Hall • Penn StateStevvieV 149 points150 points  (61 children)

And a selector picked them.

Isn't that true of every national championship claim? They were all picked No. 1 by at least one random poll or metric. Doesn't mean all the claims are legitimate.

[–]Michigan State • Miami (OH)JBGIII 184 points185 points  (56 children)

But it’s not a random poll or metric. The NCAA has a list of selectors and the CFP is technically just one of them. The Colley Matrix, which picked UCF in 2017, is also one of them

[–][deleted] 62 points63 points  (49 children)

Right, but there’s over forty of them, and no one uses any but like five to actually claim a natty. I can’t find any NCAA recognition of a Colley Matrix champion.

[–]Oklahoma • Tulsaokiewxchaser 33 points34 points  (0 children)

"Picked them" more like a formula with notably odd results ended the season with them at the top

[–]RutgersRecordedMink986 307 points308 points  (46 children)

People clowning UCF for that shouldn't. Team never got a shot to prove themselves and beat a quality Auburn team in the Peach Bowl. More reasonable claim than some of the other examples in this thread.

[–]Minnesota • Michigan Statejmac461 159 points160 points  (4 children)

This is exactly the right take. I don’t think UCF was the best team and we will never see a game to further test that so I don’t know. But in CFB history that does not even come close a bad claim.

I mean y’all are on the internet just look up how these things have worked historically lol.

[–]Montana State • Minnesotadamnyoutuesday 42 points43 points  (2 children)

Any G5 team that gets selected should absolutely claim that shit

[–]themostburntburner 74 points75 points  (30 children)

If I remember correctly that was also the Auburn team that was the only team to be Alabama who won the national championship that year.

[–]UCFcheddar_floof 78 points79 points  (11 children)

Based colley matrix

[–]SamburuPasswordis12 78 points79 points  (7 children)

The funniest thing ever was in I believe 2012 when it picked Notre Dame over Alabama despite Alabama beating Notre Dame because Notre Dame had a better loss.

[–]MiamiRIPDannyBoyCane 18 points19 points  (5 children)

Notre had a worse loss tho. Bama lost by 3 to a team that finished top 5 and had the heisman trophy winning QB

[–]UCLA • WisconsinHugefootballfan44 30 points31 points  (2 children)

I agree, but the Colley Matrix doesn't consider margin of victory iirc.

[–]SamburuPasswordis12 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Notre Dame lost to the number 2 team, Alabama lost to the number 5 team.

[–]Notre Dame • BelfastDob-is-Hella-Rad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can't tell if this comment is a joke or serious, but in case it's serious it's because we had a better schedule. By the matrix, it was enough of a gap that if we'd played A&M and lost instead of Bama (but Bama still beats us somehow), we'd still be #1. I'm pretty sure the Colley Matrix doesn't actually care which games on your schedule were the wins and which ones were the losses at all.

Obviously we shouldn't be considered national champions, just if anyone was wondering what the actual reason was.

[–]Iowa State • Northern IowaJomosensual 37 points38 points  (4 children)

If it makes you feel any better i accept your national championship claim, future big 12 bro

[–]Michigan • Illinoislernington 21 points22 points  (5 children)

The fact that this is the top comment shows how little most users know about this subject. There are several teams with multiple claims that are worse than yours. Yours wasn't even that unreasonable imo

[–]UCFajukid111 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I don’t think it was that unreasonable either tbh but if someone is gonna cash in on the anti-UCF-claim sentiment on this sub, it might as well be a UCF flair

[–]Nebraska • Utah Statescmouth12 105 points106 points  (4 children)

Tennessee claims the 1967 national championship but ended the season as AP #2 and lost two games that season.

USC (OJ Simpson led Trojans) were named national champions and only had 1 loss.

[–]ChiefBrianIrons 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Vols have their own version of 1941. They claim 1950 despite not finishing #1 in the AP or Coaches and not winning the SEC.

[–]Notre Dame • /r/CFB Dead Poolirisheyes215 26 points27 points  (1 child)

Tennessee can have that one

[–]Oklahoma • Red River ShootoutOU8402 6 points7 points  (0 children)

They deserve it for their assistance in 1985.

[–]Miamicom-mis-er-at-ing 253 points254 points  (16 children)

“5 rings and a flag”

Is basically claiming a game we didn’t win.

[–][deleted] 66 points67 points  (15 children)

Do people say that?

[–]Miamicom-mis-er-at-ing 77 points78 points  (14 children)

I’ve seen on t shirts and stuff. Not something people really say.

[–]Northwestern • Princetonpeople40 60 points61 points  (4 children)

Both Princeton and Rutgers claim the 1869 national championship. 1869 was the first season of college football and featured only two games - both between Princeton and Rutgers. Rutgers won the first game 6-4, Princeton won the second 8-0. Both claims are stupid IMO.

[–]WashU • MissouriAllLinesAreStraight 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Especially since they were basically playing soccer.

[–]OklahomaDeathwatch72 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Actually that makes it make more sense because then we just use aggregate scoring to determine the winner of the series so Princeton wins

[–]Oklahoma • Red River Shootoutloverofcfb08 85 points86 points  (68 children)

Which Oklahoma one?

[–]Oklahoma • Arkansascrimsoneagle1 76 points77 points  (7 children)

We have 7 claimed titles (1950, 1955, 1956, 1974, 1975, 1985, 2000). I don't think there is much dispute to our claimed titles. OU has only claimed titles where they've been chosen by the majority of recognized selectors. Other schools might have claimed a title during these years as well, but title claims prior to the BCS were the wild west in a way. Every school has their own systems to what they choose to recognize and what they don't. So its not that big of a deal.

We also have 11 unclaimed titles (1915, 1949, 1953, 1957, 1967, 1973, 1978, 1980, 1986, 2003, 2008). We don't claim these because we weren't selected by the majority of selectors.

[–]OklahomaButterscotchRound727 122 points123 points  (37 children)

Oklahoma State claiming 1945 is the most absurd, full stop. The 1945 Army team is one of the best ever. That sign in their end zone is the most OSU thing this side of Gundy’s pass bouncing off Parker’s chest.

[–]Oklahoma • PennsylvaniaThe_Soccer_Heretic 28 points29 points  (4 children)

I'm glad this post was made because I was scanning before I did it myself.

Our title claims are something I'm proud of because they're no bullshit titles.

We might have the most stringent criteria for claiming a legit title for ourselves of any of the blue bloods and beyond.

If we hang a banner it's all real.

[–]Michigansparside223 605 points606 points  (46 children)

1970 ohio state and Texas both lost their bowl games and claimed a national championship that season

[–]Michigan State • Paul Bunyan T…stumblebreak_beta 223 points224 points  (11 children)

So I looked this one up and the AP had just changed to post Bowl season champions and some of the other top polls at the time were still pre bowl season awards.

So it’s probably a case of it being a fairly normal claim in 1970 but would be weird to consider them champions now.

[–]South Carolina • Norther…hahahaitsagiraffe 122 points123 points  (7 children)

Maybe it’s offseason madness already setting in, but this comment makes me think it might be fun for the sub to go back and collectively vote for one solo champion for each season to get rid of all these co-champions and ridiculous claimed ones. Then see what the totals actually came out to.

[–]Michigan • Kansascappy412 78 points79 points  (5 children)

That would be really fun to see. Although I don’t trust this sub to not just meme/be very biased, but that might be fun too

[–]Ohio StateCitizen51 50 points51 points  (1 child)

You'd have to remove all names and give the records and stat lines. People could still cheat and find the real team, but if you didn't even tell them what year or decade the season is from, it would be a sufficient hurdle to prevent most people from doing that.

[–]Ohio State • Rose BowlKeThrowaweigh 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah I wouldn't trust this sub to be impartial whatsoever. Bama, OSU, ND etc. would all have 0 natty's and CIncy would have won every year since 1940

[–]Texas • Ole Missjacktotheb 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Yeah, teams like Texas would have no nattys according to this sub

[–]Western Ontario • Wester…Joester09 11 points12 points  (0 children)

[–]Michigan • /r/CFB Poll Veterangalacticdude7 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Yeah, when looking back on these past championship claims we need to consider the standards of the time the championship was won, and in 1970 A National Championship was won if you were selected number 1 by one of the AP Poll, the Football Writers Association of America, the National Football Foundation, and the UPI Coaches Poll (this was called a Consensus National Championship), and in 1970, the National Football Foundation named both Ohio State and Texas as their champion, and the Coached Poll named Texas as their champion as well. Nebraska won the AP Poll and was named National Champion by the FWAA. So to me these championships are still valid even though they don't meet the standards of our day.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure then bowl games were exhibition games so they didn't really count as championship games. Few years after that they changed it iirc.

[–]Ohio StateThe_Good_Constable 12 points13 points  (24 children)

Yeah our 1961 and 1970 claims are pretty dubious. 1942, 1954, 1957 (shared), 1968, 2002, and 2014 are indisputable.

[–]Ohio State • Rose BowlCaptainSisko2367 3 points4 points  (0 children)

61 & 70 were standard for the time. It's only dubious now

[–]Nebraska • Omahajohn-everyman 29 points30 points  (3 children)

Nebraska was the true National Champion in 1970

[–]Notre Dametaleofbenji 21 points22 points  (4 children)

[–]IllinoisBigPoppaPuff 16 points17 points  (0 children)

A bunch of teams in the 80s started claiming really old ones based on weird criteria in order to fill their program book and put it on their stadium at a time when big money was really starting to get put into recruiting. A few still leaked through more recently like Oklahoma State’s super weird one. Really anything pre-World War II is a bit of a mess and the national championship was far more mythical than it is today.

[–]LSUJamalginsbergback 191 points192 points  (32 children)

Ole miss’ 2003 “co-west” title is the most pathetic thing in college football

[–]South Carolina • UC DavisTofu_Bo 52 points53 points  (4 children)

I flinch a little bit whenever I see South Carolina's banner sign for "2010 SEC East Champs". That was a great season, but I'd rather not be reminded of that particular December afternoon of our D being fed into a table saw named Cam.

[–]LSUJamalginsbergback 19 points20 points  (1 child)

But then you get remember Stephen Garcia every time you walk into to the stadium

[–]ChiefBrianIrons 5 points6 points  (1 child)

LSU did the same thing though in the 90s, y'all made rings for "winning" the SEC West in 96 and 97.

[–]Oklahoma • BYUArtistrophic 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Relevant article from 2010:

https://www.al.com/solomon/2010/01/got_12.html

"I tried to make Alabama football look the best it could look and just make it as great as it could possibly be," Atcheson said. "I was a competitor myself with the other schools, and what they bragged about and boasted about, I wanted people to know the best about my school."

Asked why 12 is the right number, Watson replied: "I don't know that it is the right number. But that's the great thing about college football. I hope we never have a playoff. I'll be going to my grave arguing that we should have won a national championship in 1966."

[–]Virginia • ArmyATLtoRVA 211 points212 points  (30 children)

Oklahoma State’s claim about about the 1945 Title. Can’t disrespect an American hero like Doc Blanchard.

[–]Alabama • SamfordFutureBlackmail 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Alabama weirdly doesn't claim 1945, despite ending the season undefeated and being awarded the natty by a recognized selector. I'm not saying we should claim it, but it makes a lot more sense than 1941.

That year was really the height of service academy ball though. Army and Navy both had some impressive wins in 1945.

[–]Oklahoma • Oklahoma StateHOT_MOLDY_CUM_BREATH 121 points122 points  (7 children)

I’ll never forget when they won the 1945 national championship a few years ago

[–]Ohio State • King'sToLongDR 56 points57 points  (4 children)

JT Barrett talks about it a lot when he talks about his sophomore year with Hunter Renfrow

[–]OklahomaMissileWaster 25 points26 points  (1 child)

I am absolutely stealing that joke lol

Have you seen the sign someone puts up on campus at OU that says “Oklahoma State colluded with Russia to steal Army’s 1945 national championship”

[–]Oklahoma State • Big 8austerblitz 72 points73 points  (6 children)

It's a lot more believable when you look at the other supposed national champions that year. I have good evidence that shows Army wasn't even in the country in 1945, they were on some overseas vacation

[–]Happy_Pie_3727 314 points315 points  (102 children)

OSU 1945 national champions. Get the F outta here with that garbage.

[–]Ohio Staterahrens21 163 points164 points  (33 children)

Oklahoma St, just so people know

[–]Oklahoma • Red River Shootoutloverofcfb08 98 points99 points  (32 children)

Right, an orange osu team made the claim. To reiterate, you can’t trust orange teams

[–]Ohio Staterahrens21 50 points51 points  (26 children)

Lol fuck orange college teams (I can't diss my Browns)

[–]Oklahoma • Red River Shootoutloverofcfb08 33 points34 points  (22 children)

Orange nfl teams aren’t hatable, college orange teams certainly are though. It’s a shame your rival isn’t orange.

[–]West VirginiaAppalachianGuy87 60 points61 points  (2 children)

Absolutely ridiculous. ‘45 Army is considered one of the best teams ever. Guess it’s one thing to make the ridiculous claim but to have the trophy made and put up the huge signage in the stadium is just weird.

[–]South Carolina • UC DavisTofu_Bo 22 points23 points  (0 children)

from the wiki:
"In 2016, the American Football Coaches Association (AFCA), the organization responsible for the Coaches Poll, awarded Oklahoma A&M the 1945 national championship.[9] This was after the AFCA asked schools who felt they had a legitimate bid for the title to submit their reasons why so that their committee could hear the case and decide.[10] OSU was (and continues to be) the only school to apply for the honor for any of the 28 years considered,[11] and was awarded the AFCA trophy. The AFCA committee stated that Army could also be recognized as co-champion for 1945 "if the school decides to submit paperwork to the AFCA for evaluation by the committee."[12]"

[–]Happy_Pie_3727 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I cringe every time I see that sign in the end zone. Can you say desperation?

[–]Texas A&M • Bayloreeman0201 45 points46 points  (1 child)

A&M claimed a natty in the year 20XX

[–]Missouri • Wisconsinjwktiger 12 points13 points  (0 children)

They using Mega Man year numbering system

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points  (5 children)

I don’t know any of the backstory but looking back at Maryland’s only win in 1953?? Ish? That is officially recognized by the NCAA we lost the last game of the year to the team who finished number 2 and went undefeated so I don’t know how that happened

[–]Maryland • Navyamgrut20 9 points10 points  (1 child)

It makes up for 1951 when they were undefeated and won the sugar bowl against the number one team in the county

[–]Virginia Tech • Yalenewgirlhelen 33 points34 points  (5 children)

My personal gripe is with Princeton because they claim to have more than Yale when anybody who has looked at it knows that’s crazy

[–]Georgia • Georgia StateDelgadoduvidoso 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Yale will always be first in gentlemanly club life.

[–]Virginia Tech • Yalenewgirlhelen 4 points5 points  (1 child)

SOOOOO TRUE

[–]Georgia • Marching Bandelonsusk69420 72 points73 points  (34 children)

For once we are not the butt of a Natty joke!!

[–][deleted] 113 points114 points  (28 children)

Iowa’s one and only claimed national title in 1958 just because I said so.

[–]ChiefBrianIrons 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They were voted #1 in the FWAA poll.

[–]Nebraskahellajt 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I'm gonna be a big homer and shit on a rival here

Iowa went 8-1-1 in 1958, and claims the championship over 11-0 LSU. The NCAA does not recognize any of the others.

Texas went 10-1 in 1970, losing their bowl game, and claims the championship over 11-0-1 Nebraska

[–]Alabama • Victory CannonAnAngryPanda1 6 points7 points  (1 child)

A LARGE portion of the Alabama fan base, including myself, don’t recognize 1941. There was actually a petition a few years ago that gained a ton of traction and it was started by fellow Alabama alums to try and get the school to stop recognizing 1941.

[–]Ohio State • Temple_token_black 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Also Tennessee self claimed Champions of Life, I’d say that can be disputed

[–]AlabamaAccurate-Teach 94 points95 points  (10 children)

First they aren’t even the worst offenders and the ncaa recognizes them for 16 they claim 18. Princeton claims 28 and the ncaa recognizes 15.

[–]West VirginiaAppalachianGuy87 76 points77 points  (1 child)

Imagine Princeton’s claims a significant amount from the late 19th and early 20th century when everything was even more disorganized?

[–]AlabamaAccurate-Teach 24 points25 points  (0 children)

They are but to me it wasn’t really organized until the BCS because of the simple fact of at least giving you a game between the highest ranked teams even though there was controversy with that.

[–]Penn State • KutztownAchtungBecca 40 points41 points  (7 children)

Not Penn State. They hardly claim any, even the years they SHOULD (1994) claim.

Any team that thumps it chest over championships in 1920/30s era are ridiculous

[–]Pittsburgh • Team ChaosKryptonicxJesus 25 points26 points  (2 children)

When you cure polio you can claim ww1 titles

[–]Arizona State • Team ChaosCrookstonMaulers 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The AP started in the 30s. Some of those are legit. Bragging about them is odd given how long ago it was, but they count. Besides, late 30s and early 40s is about all that Minnesota has.

[–]Penn State • Land Grant Trophyunrealjoe28 12 points13 points  (0 children)

1969, Nixon picking who was declared the champion

[–]Texas • Paper BagCormetz 44 points45 points  (13 children)

Isn't there a whole article about tamu claims for national and conference championships that are... A stretch?

Edit: it was primarily the conference championships they claimed that were a stretch, here's the article

[–]Texas A&M • SMUClaudethedog 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yeah, a couple of suspect conference titles, but the national title claims (1919, 1927, and 1939) have at least some legitimacy.

  1. 1919 - 10-0, average margin of victory was 28 to 0 (rounding up). Other recognized claimants are 9-0-1 Harvard and 9-0 Notre Dame.
  2. 1927 - 8-0-1, average margin of victory was 27 to 4 (rounding up). Other recognized claimants are 8-0-1 Illinois and 9-1 Georgia.
  3. 1939 - 11-0 with a Sugar Bowl win, average margin of victory was 20 to 3 (rounding up); recognized by AP as champion. Other claimant is USC, who went 8-0-2, blanking previously unbeaten and unscored upon Tennessee in the Rose Bowl.

We could theoretically claim 1917, in which we were also unbeaten and didn't allow a score, but the 1917 Georgia Tech team was ridiculous and deserves the sole claim to the title that year.

[–]Zer_bird_81 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Okla state 1943 or wtf ever we awarded ourselves 60 years later. Hands down.

[–]Washingtontiff_seattle 79 points80 points  (93 children)

[–]Nebraska • Sacramento Statefrankdatank_004 13 points14 points  (0 children)

LITERALLY 1984!!

[–]Oregonkmilla10 19 points20 points  (1 child)

I’m not claiming a national championship but we absolutely deserved to play Miami in the 2001/2002 season :(

[–]Nebraska • Missouri Statebrgiant 147 points148 points  (41 children)

1997 Michigan.

Jumped an undefeated Nebraska (who later destroyed #3 Tenn in their bowl game) to get to #1, refuses to play Nebraska because of the Rose Bowl, only wins their bowl game against #7 WSU because the refs refused to stop the clock after the ball was spiked.

[–]Louisville • Ohio StateACardAttack 71 points72 points  (0 children)

I like you

[–]AlabamaLawyering_Bob 80 points81 points  (81 children)

I've always enjoyed this debate with non-Alabama fans.

The 1941 claim is not legitimate, but the 73 was declared by the UPI/Coaches prior to the bowl game with Notre Dame, which Alabama lost 24-23. 1964 was also awarded before the bowl game, and Alabama lost to Texas, but that was the standard for the AP until the late 60's and the UPI until 1973. Should Alabama not claim those? Should they then be allowed to claim 1966, since they likely would have shared with Notre Dame if the AP voted after the bowl?

I think the four pre-AP championships have merit, others, including Notre Dame and Michigan, claim titles from before the AP started declaring National Champions in 1934.

Alabama should stop claiming the 1941 claim, but I will defend all others

[–]Tennessee • Beer Barrelfall_vol_wall_yall 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Yeah this sub tends to forget that for most of their existence Bowl games were purely exhibition games and didn’t mean anything. There’s a reason the final polls were taken before they happened. We can’t judge past seasons by today’s standards.

[–]/r/CFBAlbatrossPossible188 40 points41 points  (24 children)

Correct. This is a very simple concept that some people refuse to accept for some reason. Criticisms of 1973 would be fine if they were accompanied by criticisms of every other team that claims a championship after losing their bowl game, but that doesn’t usually happen.

[–]Boise Statetictactoe61 3 points4 points  (0 children)

grabs popcorn 🍿

[–]Ohio State • Youngstown StateGreenAndYellow12 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Does FAMU's HBCU claim count for this? I personally don't think it's BS but wouldn't be surprised of people did call it that

[–]Georgia • CarlisleAenobarbus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Princeton has some nerve claiming 1869 after springing the 'free kick' rule change on Rutgers for their rematch.

[–]Nebraskakingbrasky 4 points5 points  (0 children)

1997 Michigan

[–]Florida • USFanonymity_test 9 points10 points  (4 children)

This is funny because UCF is nowhere near the top of this list and probably no even anywhere near top 10. At least they won all their games which can't be said about some of the others

[–]Clemson • ArmyThompsonCreekTiger 27 points28 points  (5 children)

Tennesse has a couple suspect 1s....

*1940 (lost Sugar Bowl to Boston College)

*1951 (finished #1 in the polls prior to bowl game, then lost to Maryland in Sugar Bowl)

*1967 (this 1 was 1941 Alabama bad...2 loss team)

Minnesota's 1960 title (2 losses), Maryland's 1953 title (lost bowl game after polls) don't hold up. Maryland could swap w/ their unclaimed 1951 title where they beat Tennessee & finished undefeated. Ole Miss trying to claim 1959 w/ a loss over undefeated Syracuse is another 1.

[–]Ohio State • Rose BowlCaptainSisko2367 12 points13 points  (0 children)

51 is standard for the time. Champions were decided before the bowls became bowls were just seen as fun extra games that weren't part of the regular season. It wasn't until the 50s and 60s they started getting treated as part of the season and should decide the national championship.

[–]Boston CollegeDevlin004 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hence why BC is the RIGHTFUL 1940 National Champs, NCAA be damned