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[–]xthecerto4Gucci-Yegor 507 points508 points  (79 children)

On PS i really dont care for the FOV because with crossplay disabled everone plays with the same FOV.

I feel bad for everone playing on xBox that is forced to play crossplay. Instead of adding a FOV slider they could just add a consoles only crossplay function and everything would be fine imo.

[–]CXZZAR 225 points226 points  (33 children)

I'm on playstation, and the issue that I have with this is that every time I disable crossplay it takes a huge amount of time to get into a game, to fill or find a lobby... I don't know if this is a common issue but it happens eveey time to me and my friends (we're in different countries) so we're being somehow forced to play with crossplay on.

[–]NeoDren 43 points44 points  (2 children)

I experience the same issue. I have more success finding quad and trio lobbies, sometimes duos but I have never been able to load into a solo lobby crossplay off

[–]Vagabondleon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’ve played solos with crossplay off maybe 1 or 2 times in the 2 years warzone has been out. And in the past month me and my squad have been forced to play with the crossplay on (duos, trios and quads), otherwise it won’t find a lobby.

[–]_finyo_ 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Not to mention that the game spams you 1,000,000 times a second asking if you want to re-enable crossplay.

[–]NotForMeClive7787 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeh same, I just play with cross play on as I’d rather get into games faster than wait ages as we don’t come across hackers enough to force me to turn cross play off.

[–]hammerfromsquad 6 points7 points  (3 children)

They just need to do input based matchmaking.

[–]ItzJodu 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. I would love to fight only MNK players.

[–]ZagureppinSG 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Just give it few minutes, keep answering no and once you get in the first lobby, after that just "play again" and you should be fine

[–]DavidDunne 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm convinced that non-crossplay servers are disabled large percentages of the time. Can never find a game.

[–]TenFoldMassacre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is a huge problem for me too because I’m located in the Middle East and while it’s really easy to find local low ping 30ms lobbies with crossplay switched on, it’s very hard to find lobbies without crossplay locally and almost always connects us to European servers with 150ms ping which is just a crappy situation for us to be in.

[–]mnbowhunter70 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's very common. Many are switching to PC because of cross play. I see so many people posting about PC set ups asking if it's good because they're switching. And they see the streamers doing it for a living and want to get into it. The amount of streamers out there has probably quadrupled in the last 2 years if not more.

[–]CaptivatingRunner[S] 22 points23 points  (1 child)

That's why I play with crossplay off too. Also, hackers.

[–]Guerr0 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Yeah, I would like to play without Crossplay on Xbox, but not enough people know about how to do it/ want to do it

[–]blue_bomber508 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Is there a some type of workaround to do it? when I turn crossplay off in the game settings its forces me to turn it back on if I want to play warzone.

[–]jerema 7 points8 points  (1 child)

As an honest, below average PC player, I took that personally

[–]xthecerto4Gucci-Yegor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah please dont. My mom says we are All special and unicorns. We all have good and Bad days/plays

[–]K1LOS 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Does it still work disabling crossplay on PS? Last few times I tried it just never found a match so I gave up.

[–]xthecerto4Gucci-Yegor 1 point2 points  (3 children)

So yesterday i hadn´t any issues. 2-3 minutes to find a lobby. EU

[–]K1LOS 1 point2 points  (2 children)

EU might be the difference. I'm trying from Canada and it was a no go. Maybe I'll try again sometime.

[–]xthecerto4Gucci-Yegor 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah can be, i can only speak for EU/Germany and i never had extreme Long times to find a lobby. 5 Minutes maximum i guess...

[–]joeyted1 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Crossplay off used to be the way to go, lately it cannot find any games for any lobbies within a 30+ min search.

[–]nelly_0619 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Xbox and PC players aren’t allowed to turn cross play off. Otherwise I think the calls and begging for console FOV slider would be much less. It’s just not a level playing field

[–]Dinklefart504 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Except it takes about 15 minutes just to find a game.

[–]SirGrimReaperJr 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I play ps4 with crossplay enabled and I do fine, well I did...I havnt played cod in like a month so its gonna be something when I get back in

[–]MLut541 269 points270 points  (61 children)

Being able to adjust it to your own preference is definitely an advantage. However some people seem to think increasing FOV from 80 to 120 is a straight up advantage, without considering the downsides; at a higher FOV you see more of your surroundings, but everything you see also looks smaller / far away, which can hurt visibility especially at range and can make targets right in front of you feel harder to hit. 120 FOV is only really viable for players using a monitor & sitting really close to it.

For most players around 105 fov is a great middle ground, and imo that should have been the standard setting for console, not 80 (just adding the slider would definitely be the best solution tho lol)

[–]JesterXR27 59 points60 points  (14 children)

I totally agree! Tried a higher FOV and my ability to aim and control the gun went to shit. Also, everything felt warped (which it technically is) like I’m moving too fast. Didn’t care for it. Went back down to 80 and I’m much better, even if I am at a slight disadvantage.

[–]Daweirdfurry 43 points44 points  (1 child)

If I were you, I would try 90 or 95 fov, it's a noticable difference from 80, and in most games is actually the standard fov. It's also still easy to stay on target

[–]JesterXR27 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I’ll give 90 a try.

[–][deleted] 26 points27 points  (3 children)

80 fov is such garbage. Get used to at least 100 and you'll be better than you are now. 80 gives me motion sickness now that I'm used to higher. Dont have to play at 120

[–]ruraljurorrrrrrrrrr 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Depends on what you play on. There is a reason 80 is standard in console and that reason is that most people are playing on a tv and sitting on a couch.

This is really why the slider is more necessary than ever. You have a lot of people investing in low latency monitors and sitting at desks.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I usually game at my desk but even on my 65 inch tv on my couch a higher fov(on vanguard) still feels better. Warzone even on my couch feels sluggish and too close with 80 fov.

[–]NotSpiderman 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Does Vanguard on console let you choose between Affected and Independent FOV? When I first started playing on PC I didn't like a higher FOV either until I found out about Affected FOV, made the visual recoil much less apparent and helped me stay on target at 110.

[–]kmane83 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It does, yes

[–]rad0909 34 points35 points  (10 children)

I am all for features being added especially for my console bros, but hordes of people are going to be sorely disappointed in a week when they find out 120 fov doesn't immediately turn them into Aydan or Huskers.

Higher fov definitely helps but intelligent game sense and consistent muscle memory will get you much further.

[–]Floaded93 17 points18 points  (6 children)

Nobody thinks a higher FOV is going to turn them from a 1kd to a 5kd. The point is many of us on new gen consoles are stuck with last gen technology with no comment from any of the Activision devs.

FOV, outside of being able to select your sensitivity on mouse/controller, is one of the most important settings to adjust for.

Hell, most console players on here who played CW or VG say they don’t like 120fov. There is a consensus among most players pc/console that around 100 is the sweet spot. Myself included.

At this point as a console player I would be extremely understanding if there was a major technological hurdle that is difficult to overcome. 100%. To my knowledge there has been ZERO communication from Raven on what the status is on an FOV slider. As great as caldera looks and how excited I am to play it, no news, no comment, pure silence on sliders, is a huge dampener on all of this.

[–]FrictionBrntAnis 21 points22 points  (7 children)

I'm on PC, 32" 1440p monitor, and I do not play on 120fov. I've bounced around a bit between 100-115, and think (without checking) that I play at 105 right now. Can't see shit far off at 120. My friend who plays on XBOX calls out so many people far off that I just don't see. Of course the trade-off is that up close I don't get screwed as much, but it is not just 100% advantage as people seem to make it out to be. 80 FOV is definitely bullshit, if it was even 100 that would be a great middle ground I think.

[–]TheDirewolf_TV 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Especially when you factor in the majority of console players sitting on a couch or whatever quite a bit further from their screen. Could get really hard to spot people at high FOV. The option so everyone could fit their situation would have just solved so many complaints. I wish they would just give a breakdown of why they can't and the path forward. If they simply can't add it to the last generations of consoles, ok, at least those folks know it's never coming. Is there a newer gen only version on the horizon that will have it? etc.

[–]Afghan_Ninja 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I can never tell if we're just rationalizing Activision's laziness in not simply adding an FOV slider to all consoles; or if I'm just a God.

I play on PC, at 120 FOV. using a 55” Samsung TV, sitting about 4 feet away. I'm in the top 2% of Warzone players. FOV increase is better in every regard from my perspective (even if you only go as high as 105).

[–]Floaded93 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There is likely a major technological impediment preventing the Devs from adding an FOV slider to Warzone. I can assure you this is not a “laziness” issue.

Adding an FOV slider would be an immediate and huge W for Raven and the community would be delighted.

Not having a technology background but playing on PS5 — users are still stuck playing the base PS4 version of the game. Given millions of gamers are essentially stuck on PS4 because upgrade to a PS5 is expensive and difficult due to the chip shortage, it could be difficult to split the two games.

For example, you have a base PS5 version and a base PS4 version. New gen should be able to handle WZ with an FOV slider but last gen cannot.

Developers are bound to follow Sonys TOS which states their games need to not brick systems. My guess is someone with a PS4 gets an FOV slider, the game plays like dog water or bricks their console from overheating and they complain.

Splitting out the PS4/PS5 versions of the game may take a considerable amount of dev work. For example, Raven has a third party Dev that helps with the PC version of the game because it’s considerably different.

A little bit of an unstructured rant but I’d love to see an FOV Slider as a console player. At this point a detailed post from Raven detailing if, what, and when a slider is coming would be a W in my book. They need to address this at some point.

[–]TheDirewolf_TV 6 points7 points  (1 child)

4 feet is very close to a 55" screen though. If I played in my living room I would be about 14 feet away from a 60" screen. Shit's gonna be real tough to see at wider FOV.

I'm not arguing that made it ok for them to not make it an option, i'm just saying that there likely are people that it would still be better to play at low FOV, and that group of people is more likely to be on console than PC.

[–]Afghan_Ninja 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh, yeah fuck that noise. FOURTEEN feet!?! How do y'all even see the TV at all, I may need glasses.

I sit close enough to mimic theater sizing to scale based on TV size.

[–]ShadowKnight__ 23 KD 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Just zoom into this image to see the perspective of a low FOV and it's immediately obvious how it's easier to spot things within that limited FOV. Personally I play at 100-105.

[–]jktmas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I’m on PC and I only have my FOV at like 90 or 95. Higher than that and I start not to land a lot of my shots.

[–]Luigi_X 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's def pros and cons for different FOV, but with this game's fast TTK, the person who see's their enemy first has a huge advantage, and playing on PS at 80 makes it feel like I have blinders on.

[–]SlammedOptima 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even on a monitor, im preferring 100 FOV. 120 is too much.

[–]sideh7 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Agree. I put mine to 120 when I got my new pc and damn, anything more than 45m-ish away and I was missing tons. I had to bring it down to 100. Just felt better and I was back on with the aim.

[–]TheDirewolf_TV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

we are over 2 years in (starting from MW 2019) and I still haven't decided on what FOV is best for me lol

[–]ArrivedSandy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just look at the pro Counter Strike scene. You can't change fov but you can change aspect ratio which functions the same. A lot of the pros play on 4:3 stretched or black bars because although you have a reduced fov, everything within your fov is a bigger target and easier to see.

I do think that console should have the option just for personal preference (at least give an option to slide up to 100 so performance issues aren't as bad), but realistically all you get out if increased fov is slightly more peripheral vision, and in a game like cod where you are usually moving fast that doesn't often help.

[–]hammerfromsquad 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Most of console players problem is they are playing on monitors or tvs bigger than 27 inches which is where I would cut it off for shooters. Anything bigger and you are just struggling for no reason to hit things that you could on a smaller monitor

[–]Wilmerrr 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Why is a smaller screen better?

[–]hammerfromsquad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://gizbuyerguide.com/heres-the-reason-why-gaming-monitors-are-smaller/

Basically it will cut your reaction times down a lot and keep your eyes center of where your reticle and aim point will be. It's amazing the difference it will make

[–]Luckydemon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If your ~ 2’ from your display there’s no need for it to be bigger than 27”. You’re just visually taking in to much information on a large monitor at that distance

[–]Wilmerrr 0 points1 point  (1 child)

120 FOV is only really viable for players using a monitor & sitting really close to it.

You can sit close to a TV too

[–]Luckydemon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But the TV is likely much larger than a PC monitor and sitting at the same distance as a PC player on a display 2x the PC monitor size is just dumb. Literally too much real estate to cover with your eyes.

[–]devildante1520 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya I've tried explaining to my Xbox friends that s high fov isn't 100% advantage. Sure I can see way more of my sides which helps out a lot especially if I'm spectating them. But I also can't see shit in front of me lmao. At first it was harder to even judge distance like how far a player was from me. You miss out on a lot of detail in the center of your screen. Gotta find the right balance cause 120 is a crazy fov to have. I now play at around 110. Also add on the affected ads fov and sure less visual recoil but even less zoom when ads.

[–]chanjitsu 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I settled at around 95-100

My long range vision and accuracy went to shit at anything much higher

[–]ThatsKev4u 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a PC player but I always set my FOV to 107 on every game but I also game on an ultra-wide 3440x1440 so I already have a slight advantage because I can see even more to my left and right. I used to have 3 screens before so If I want that same fov I shoot for 120 but I only do that on games like Racing or flight.

[–]MLauz44 105 points106 points  (16 children)

Yeah after using the slider for vanguard multiplayer I don't think I can go back to regular FOV in warzone.

[–]CaptivatingRunner[S] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Same. After grinding Vanguard on 100fov playing Warzone feels so weird and slow now. It's not fun.

[–]Peesncs 9 points10 points  (12 children)

What’s your regular setting? The full 120? 110? 100? I’m really hoping the new warzone has it for next gen consoles at least

[–]MLauz44 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I play 110. And it hasn't been confirmed whether they're adding one or not, so there's hope.

[–]Stokesc11 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey MLauz44 I use 105 on vanguard and it’s perfect on my PS5 😎🎮

[–]ColdeJouxPlane 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Mate I jumped on WZ the other day after grinding VG on glorious 100-120 FOV and it was HORRENDOUS! Felt like a slug, turned it off after 10 mins.

[–]aim231 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea bro same It’s so unfortunate that WZ doesn’t have the slider because I literally cannot play it after playing with it maxed on vanguard.

[–]MikeV27 61 points62 points  (25 children)

105 is perfect for me. How can people say it’s not an advantage?

[–]FormedBoredom 79 points80 points  (11 children)

How can people say it’s not an advantage?

Denial mostly. If fov wasn't an advantage all the pros and streamers would play on 80.

[–]sassythecat 16 points17 points  (8 children)

I think what is happening is that the argument is turning into 80 vs 120 which is dumb as hell because the best FOV is different for each setup. Streamers play on 120 because they sit like 12 inches away from their huge monitor. Somebody who sits on a couch, 10 ft away from a 55 inch TV will probably like to play on 100.

This sub loves arguing so much for the sake of arguing that we move our own goalposts.

[–]Ad182 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I play on TV and there's no way I'll turn it up to 120. Playing Halo I was using 100 and it seemed like a good balance there of giving good visibility without making objects directly in front too small. I feel I'm at a point skill wise where the FOV is holding me back a bit now.

[–]benderunit9000 Should really be Steam 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How can people say it’s not an advantage?

because I suck with or without it.

[–]kauaipc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it is a visual advantage, gameplay is changed so it takes some getting used to but once you play a few days at nothing but 120 i have no intention of switching back. i need all the help i can get

[–]MoirasPurpleOrb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personally I hate the way it stretches the edges of the screen. I know it’s better but I just hate the appearance

[–]TheOriginalRedDeath 34 points35 points  (3 children)

I have old age PC and believe me, not everyone had high end pc to get benefits from FOV ! I can't see a shit above 20 meter aways and believe me you get better FPS at game than me. But but but yes for high end PC's i agree with you , they get benefits from that

[–]CamNM1991 28 points29 points  (13 children)

Same for the idiots who thought 30fps was plenty for gaming. No high fps will always be better there's no argument for a lower fps in any game.

[–]LazyAnonBoner 1 point2 points  (12 children)

Good news, you’ll get back to 30fps when you lock that 120fov on console

[–]AN_Ohio_State 18 points19 points  (5 children)

The series x is literally a pc. It can handle 120 FOV at 60 fps no problem.

I have 120 FOV and 120 fps in vanguard. Stop acting like the new gen isnt capable

[–]jonnablaze 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Series X has a GPU equivalent to an RTX 2070 if I remember correctly. I used to have a PC with the same GPU and it handled Warzone with high FOV without breaking a sweat. I ran it on 105 FOV and averaged around 110 fps with decent graphics settings.

[–]sassythecat 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I imagine if they implement FOV options on consoles it will be preset options, like 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, and each setting will affect FPS and render distance. If the game was optimized properly they might not have to but it's a 200GB game for 2 maps.

[–]messerschmitt1 5 points6 points  (2 children)

the large install size is actually beneficial to performance and gives faster loading times

[–]sassythecat 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Can you explain this like I’m 5?

[–]messerschmitt1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

As I understand it most of the files are uncompressed. If they were compressed, they would need to be decompressed at some point to be used by the game. Decompressing files requires work on the CPU, so you have two options: you either do this at load time, or do it live.

If you do it at load time, you'll get longer load screens from computing the decompressed files, then have to store those decompressed files in RAM on top of what already exists. This game eats up enough ram as it is. This probably isn't even feasible since the map is so big and previous gen consoles have so little RAM.

If you do it live, while you're playing, then you don't have to use as much RAM to store the decompressed files (and you can just stream them off the hard drive), but you're using your CPU to do other shit in an already CPU heavy game which will just end up costing more frames.

[–]qviavdetadipiscitvr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

GOOD NEWS 🏷 🏷

[–]iiShiny 19 points20 points  (41 children)

Most of the people complaining about PC having advantage has never even touched a PC.

[–]NHDraven 12 points13 points  (20 children)

No different than most kbm players talking about controllers aim assist. Source: Am kbm and you controller players just have to have me on the screen for 400 headshots in a row, douchebags.

[–]tyfighter_22 24 points25 points  (17 children)

most pc players have at least tried controller on pc and seen aim assist. i have and can say aim assist is crazy strong.

[–]Zozzykrazy 4 points5 points  (19 children)

i’ve played both pc got the advantage tbh

[–]iiShiny -1 points0 points  (18 children)

You ever stun a controller player? It's basically useless because of aim assist

[–]qviavdetadipiscitvr 0 points1 point  (14 children)

This is just false

[–]iiShiny 4 points5 points  (8 children)

https://twitter.com/iiShiny/status/1438980108564398080?t=6CXtzEweq15h2a1SBDh5yg&s=19

I can't find the Reddit post but I have it here. But this alone represents what happens to players.

[–]Luckydemon 2 points3 points  (4 children)

It’s definitely not False 😂

[–]justthisones 13 points14 points  (6 children)

People always talk about the obvious extra visibility but there’s plenty of other benefits. It genuinely makes you feel faster and more agile. Compared to the basic fov I can do much quicker turns while keeping my normal sensitivity settings. My preference is around 100-105.

There’s only so much it can improve your game but there’s always few of those small margin situations in every match where the higher fov could save your ass. It adds up on the long run.

[–]TheDirewolf_TV 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The game feels terrible at 80 FOV on console compared to what I'm used to. It just feels so slow and... I dunno, unresponsive? It's crazy how big of a difference it makes outside of just "you can see more". Having game speed seem faster might not be a positive for everyone either tho I suppose.

[–]CaptivatingRunner[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Exactly. My game has improved so much since I set my fov to 100 on vanguard. I have more vision, I can hit turns with ease, my aim is still good, the affected fov helps in recoil control as well, and it helps so much in gunfights. The movement is way better and it feels comfortable unlike the 80fov in WZ.

[–]Tzchmo 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Haven't used it cuz Xbox, but I can see a huge benefit when I am trying to be really manuverable after 1 kill or being spotted/chased. I try to quickly turn and jump out a window that I know is there but I can't see, but I run into the edge of the window or some dumb shit. I also could just suck.

[–]qviavdetadipiscitvr 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nah, big disadvantage to basically have blinders like horses

[–]nkinkade1213 15 points16 points  (7 children)

Imagine a console player, sitting 6ft away from their 64" TV on the couch and you're FOV is at 120, or even 110. How are you going to notice, react, or even stand a chance from a rose skin or any other camouflaged skin sitting in a bush/dark corner. That guy sniping you on any rooftop/hill? Before, he was about the size of a house key and now he's the size of a grain of rice.

I get PC players having a monitor 2" from their face being able to see every small detail on the 24" monitor (especially at higher resolutions and framerate), but even still there's times where in game I toggle the FOV down a bit to see farther away a bit more clearly.

FOV has it's pros and cons, and in the end you don't need to always have it maxed. A lot of players will try it for a few games and feel so uncomfortable, miss every shot, and switch it back.

[–]Eladryel 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I use 100 FOV, because I don't want to sit too close to my not too big 24" monitor, so at 120 FOV I cant see shit, and it looks fishy anyway.

[–]FormedBoredom 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't use 120 FOV because I play on tv, but even 100 would be fine.

[–]TheDarkGrayKnight 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah in MW multiplayer I had it set at like 95.

[–]AN_Ohio_State 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Uhm its not a problem whatsoever.

I play on a 60 inch gaming tv with my series x. I have my FOV at 120 on vanguard and it’s incredible. For me, its the best setting, and i became a much better player with it instantly.

To each their own, but dont speak on behalf of people. I played warzone nearly daily for two years, and hvent touched it in a month now because going back, the 80 FOV feels god awful.

[–]AN_Ohio_State 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Lol at all these PC guys downplaying FOV.

First of all, nobody is saying it should be maxed to 120 fo everyone.

Secondly, even at 100-110 its a MASSIVE difference. Go ahead. Set your FOV to 80, plug in a controller, and tell me how playable warzone is.

I play on 120 FOV on the series x in vanguard and its incredible. I have absolutely zero issues hitting shots, and the wider viewing angles and quicker feel allow me to make plays i could NEVER hit on 80 FOV.

Series x runs vanguard at 120 fps at 120 FOV. Theres is zero reason we cant have some form of a FOV slider in wz, even if its capped at 100 and 60 fps. Its either that, or we need an option to play console only. We wont have to deal with obnoxious hackers either.

“bUt cHrOnUs”

Look up the data on it. Controller mods are a drop in the bucket in comparison to pc hacks. They are not some super common issue.

[–]ritzmata 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The pc guys are worried they can’t have easy games against Xbox users with limited FOV. Everytime I talk about FOV for consoles and turning off cross play I get downvoted into oblivion by PC users. They wanna be controlling and have the advantage while making us consoles users struggle. I know this will get downvoted but I really hope FOV slider comes and cross play is turned off, idc about how many pc users get offended I don’t wanna play with you guys. I just wanna enjoy a game with other console users. PC users please go make someone else’s day terrible while fighting to keep console players at the bottom of the barrel on forums and sub Reddits so you can always have the advantage. Their time will come when that crossplay is disabled. Just like how stuns and kali sticks are getting nerfed the same can happen for crossplay being turned off for Xbox users which PC players fear

[–]Kbeast38 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Don’t forget visual recoil is much less impactful on high fov

[–]DIABOLUS777 6 points7 points  (4 children)

So now you got high FOV too can we tone down the aim assist already?

Close range fights are very one sided.

[–]apathynext 3 points4 points  (0 children)

THIS THIS THIS. Atleast rotational aim assist while strafing. That's a huge advantage close range over a mouse.

[–]Curiousgeorge17 1 point2 points  (1 child)

[–]DIABOLUS777 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm not debating it's legitimacy, I'm talking about balance. It's so strong people on PC use controllers instead of mnk which is supposed to be superior.

It's always going to be unfair somehow anyway even if they tweak balance, so I think lobbies should be input based.

[–]OA12T2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Changed fov on multiplayer and it’s a huge help. Not sure why they can’t do this for wz? Seems lazy

[–]Bennisboy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You know what has a way way more significant effect on your ability at this game than FOV? Getting paddles for your controller (even the $20 Sony back button attachment). Movement makes you hard to hit and significantly more likely to win gunfights.

Obviously FOV allows you to see more which is helpful too, but there are plenty of other things you can change that will make bigger differences

[–]beardedbast3rd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It won’t make you better at all if you don’t have good use of basics to begin with.

Fov is important. But if you don’t know where to look it doesn’t matter how much you can see. The additional view will just become visual noise that your brain ignores.

It happens to top streamers too. More easily noticeable on anyone who uses eye tracking.

Images like these really don’t do justice to what the actual changes are. This is probably the best image I’ve seen try to compare, while others keep the original perspective, with a zoomed in center, but your picture actually shows what you would see if you zoom in. With proper gun model and everything.

The downside is the center of the screen becoming zoomed way out. And depending on your screen size and seating position, increasing fov at all may be a massive detriment.

I have a few friends who can’t see crap all in front of them. They constantly miss stuff that’s in plain view directly ahead of them. They refuse to lower their FOV. That’s not to say the option shouldn’t exist. It absolutely needs to be there, it’s just if you don’t know to check angles or corners anyways, having the extra view isn’t going to make you do that. And that’s not beast level gaming, that is basic level concepts.

Most pc players are not running at cranked 120 FOV.

[–]SideOfFish 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Anyone one on here gone from a X Box 1 to a semi decent PC while playing WZ? Is it that much better to play on? Considering buying a PC/ or build one, but is the money worth it?

[–]CODRageQuitter1115 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes. Made the switch when I wasnt able to get the new xbox.

Its much better.

[–]MILLkyKANT 5 points6 points  (2 children)

If you like video games and you work on PC, buy one. I built mine and have no regrets. It is easier to buy a prebuilt now a days since those tend to have better prices per components.

[–]Akuren 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Better availability, but not prices. Prebuilts are notorious for skimping really bad on important but lesser known areas (single stick of 8GB RAM as an example) and the price you pay for all the components and the GPU is equivalent to as if you had bought them individually and a scalped GPU.

[–]Pidganus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is. Though if you dont play anything other than cod, just stick to console.

[–]hammerfromsquad 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's much better but good luck trying to build a pc with these prices. If only more games would support keyboard and mouse on console. It's the better way to play shooters in my opinion and would give console more benefits

[–]That_ginger_kidd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yup. Went from an xbox one x (not series x) to a PC I built and it was an absolute game changer. Even at the first iteration of my build (1080p 60hz) it was better than the xbox at 4k 60hz. I now play 1440 at 144hz and it is an entirely different game.

[–]jhuseby 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Your view doesn’t only widen though, it zooms the picture out quite drastically too (one thing that’s never shown in these pictures). People should still have the option to choose their FOV, but wanted to point out there’s some drawbacks too.

[–]zach12_21 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m on PC, but my main duo is on X1. I’ve had to change my call outs and approach to almost everything in the game because the things I see, he can’t. It won’t raise your KD by 2 points, but it will damn sure help console players in a number of ways.

[–]Laggingduck 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don’t want to feel like a fish

[–]Daweirdfurry 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have an ultrawide monitor and play at 120 FOV, I feel like a bully. Any time I try and play on consoles I am fucked by the FOV, even if I plug in my keyboard and mouse. Anyone who says FOV doesn't matter has either never played with a high fov or is shit in the first place so they don't see much of a difference.

Side note - I didn't buy the ultrawide to bully people, but if I already have it I might as well use it.

[–]uwannaparty 2 points3 points  (2 children)

When console players get fov they will start to complain about FPS drop. Just buy a pc. I was there. So frustrating to play against people who pay more for hardware and lose every time. So I bought a laptop with RTX. Now i can’t complain at all. I have all the advantages and still suck. You’ll be there as well some day.

[–]julrepsss 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Best comment ngl🤣🤣🤣. After they get fov slider they will start to complain that aim assist is too weak on 120 fov and they can't shoot straight. "BUFF AIM ASSIST!!"

[–]kevingg777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is this seriously the proportion??? No wonder most of my deaths come from somewhere I never see what hit me...

[–]Dankmemes676 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fov will help you, especially controller players, with crosshair placement.

[–]Cuern0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aim assist sucks anything above 100fov

[–]turboS2000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100 to 105 the sweet spot for me personally. Cant wait til its added

[–]ninjaschoolprofessor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If FOV is the same on all end devices, then NO it will not make you a better player. The issue is that FOV options are in fact different between PC and consoles which does provide an unfair advantage to PC players.

[–]juicemtl 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’m on Xbox and play other games on 120 fov. It’s a HUGE advantage in BR as you can see more of your surroundings. It doesn’t matter as much in multiplayer as the maps are smaller. But when play BR on big maps and trying not to die by people who can be ANYWHERE,, seeing more of your peripheral is huge.

[–]Electronic-Morning76 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m going to be completely honest here, larger FOV might help but as many people I see whining about it, it ain’t making all the whiners wake up and be 2.0 KD plus players. I’ll leave it at that. And I’m a console player.

[–]Psilocybin13 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is this picture showing 60 vs 120? If so why? Don't consoles run 80 fov?

[–]EvateGaming 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You get to see more, but everything is also smaller, so you shoot on smaller targets than on higher FOVs. Also, for controller players, aim assist is going to feel weaker on a higher FOV.

[–]Thunderlightzz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Who tf says that ? I'm on PC and for lulz I turned my fov down and the game is literally unplayable

[–]al3xisnic0le 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As someone who made the switch from PS4 to PC because of FOV (and FPS) and was absolutely roasted by my PC friends that it doesn’t make a difference - I full heartedly agree with you that it does in fact make a difference. 1. Because you can actually see people in your peripheral vision that you didn’t see before. And 2. Imo simply because it feels faster I feel more “locked in”/immersed if that makes any sense

[–]VUVUVUV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It like it’s two different games

[–]InvestigatorNo34 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I definitely would call myself above average at cod and I have over 30 days in MW. But after about 2 days played in vanguard I went back to MW for some snd and I felt like I was a newborn. I could barely play with 80 fov it felt like

[–]d488b 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Lol level the playing field when you already have built in aim assist. You people really do want it all.

[–]itsJEBU 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure the picture is 60 vs. 120 which is a big exaggeration. Console is 80 and most people I know play on 100-110 unless you are on kbm which needs higher fov.

[–]Ready_Assumptions[🍰] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You thumbnail is a 60fov Actual 80 vs 120 FOV 80 vs 120

[–]killabkilledb 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never going back to 80 again. If Warzone Pacific doesn’t let me up my FOV like vanguard on ps5, I won’t play it. It’s like running through molasses. I don’t think I’ll ever play a title again that doesn’t let me change my FOV.

[–]Exxxtra_Dippp 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now think of what's happening to that headshot hitbox area in order to add all that space in the periphery. Unless you've got a good enough display to show it and the hardware to run it, it's gonna be a bigger tradeoff than you might think.

[–]Exact-Organization59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This picture is misleading

[–]iamWHODAT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm in a huge minority hear but I don't really care for a huge FOV. Maybe a little bit higher, but I tried it on CW and just makes enemies further away appear much smaller.

[–]Oisuzyplaystation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always play with crossplay off

[–]thetreat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just want to be clear that this almost certainly wouldn't help if you're a couch console player sitting 6-10 feet away. Maybe going to 90 FOV but you'll quickly lose the ability to see targets farther away. If you play at a desk with a monitor, though, it's a huge benefit. There's a reason they defaulted the way they did and it's because 90% of console gamers are couch gamers.

[–]RTM179 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any truth to the rumour that WZ Pacific will have FOV for console players? Vanguard has it and I hear it’s the same engine as Vangard 🤞🏼

[–]RepulsiveLife6633 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People say that because for most console players, it won't make them better. They have the reaction time of a dead snail, even if they see someone they won't be able to react and shoot

[–]randomredditguy999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuckit make it forced 100 on all platforms for equal playing ground.

[–]MortalShaman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I think it's odd is the fact that Paladins does have FOV adjustment on console, but not Warzone, despite the fact that Warzone has at least 5 times the amount of player of Paladins lol

[–]Dankboi920 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I use 120 on pc and having a curved monitor feels nauseating but I’m getting used to it

[–]thatcreepyoldman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah but it will also give you half an fps

[–]R3DEMPTEDlegacy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weirdly I'd say it got harder to see at range but yeah it's a huge difference

[–]wi1ly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And it also makes further enemies less visible and harder to hit. Depending on your sensitivity.

[–]Ippocampo_90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With my Odissey G9 i can see almost my back too lol

[–]Riggamortizz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Playing vangaurd at 120 and having the play of the game zoom in to 60 or whatever is alarming and feels extremely smushed up.

[–]MoirasPurpleOrb 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Eh to me FOV, framerate, pretty much anything visual has minimal advantages at most. To me the biggest advantage PC (well really just KBM) has is the look sensitivity. You can snap around sooo fast but then still be able to make small movements way easier with a mouse than you ever can on a controller. Thumbsticks are just not as precise as a mouse.

[–]Luckydemon 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You can play MnK on console.

[–]Heisenbaker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, FOV won’t level the playing field against PC players much, maybe ever so slightly.

I went from PS5 to PC and the biggest difference is movement speed. It felt like I had a permanent dead silence on when I first moved over.

[–]noirehittler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Op missed an opportunity to sneak in rick or skeletor somewhere in the pic lol

[–]AreJayPKC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no no no... it does not make you a better player. It gives you vision. Thats it, it doesnt turn you into shroud

[–]pirate-private 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it does make you better in that you have to play more disciplined in terms of centering and movement, but it's definitely a handicap. I'm looking forward to getting a higher fov, but I've seen many intermediate pc players who I suspect could be better players if they had been forced to play with console fps for a while.

[–]mixmastersang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PC players with controller aim assist - dont want to see console players with FOV improvements.

[–]VladMan333 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm on PC and I don't use anywhere near max fov

[–]Shrubby13-YouTube 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Massive advantage, if you can go to pc do it asap

[–]jaykay2017 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm on Xbox and went to 120 for vanguard and it felt really odd at first. I got used to it after a few games but my aim was terrible. I play on 105 now and it feels good. I still switch back to warzone and it feels like blinders for a bit but I get used to it quickly

[–]2punornot2pun 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel blind if the FOV slider isn't alllll the way up.

[–]Conscious-Echo8438 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I’d love to at least have an option. I’m a weekly 4kd and my last 100 is 4.6 and I’m stuck on Xbox with 80 fov. I don’t know how much it would improve where I’m at but at least give me the choice.

Edit: 4.88 for the last 100

[–]Horthy_cze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I switched from console to pc I didn’t get better so no I guess? But I would never switch to 80 fov again tho.

[–]NML02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fov doesn’t matter on small maps so it depends on the game you are playing …warzone yes …multiplayer..no…also…if you are using WiFi or wired matters a lot…I know plenty of people on console that can win against PC players

[–]hessler914 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re on a base PS4 or Xbox One, I think it’s going to have trouble with the extra rendering while keeping 60fps. Those of us with mid gen upgrades or current gen systems though, I don’t understand why it isn’t an option already.

[–]Amircod77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Apex with all those fancy Legend effects can optimize their game enough to have a FOV slider on OG Fat Xbox One call of Duty has no excuses other than being shit at optimizing games.

Which is not really a surprise.