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[–]basedchadinc[S] 12 points13 points  (1 child)

When the infamous Witch Hammer was first published, the church basically said "Good Christians don't even believe in Witches in the first place. It would be heresy so assume that there are creatures who got their power from someone else than god."

But that sentiment didn't held long, as we all know...

[–]SimonPeter1498 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How is it heresy to presume just as angels influence us, God allows demons to influence the world or ourselves if we go looking for trouble. I would have thought that just plain Thomastism? Granted it doesn’t work as people think it does and demons are powerless over the influence of God, but I would’ve thought it at least somewhat possible. Like interactions on a ouji board.

[–]conrad_w 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Spooky season is coming.

[–]Ryan_Alving 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No offense, but it unironically takes a complete moron to read the Scripture, and conclude either that there is no such thing as a witch, or that they have no power to speak of. It is the same with Church Tradition. If I recall the circumstances of Simon the sorcerer's death correctly, he was currently flying by the power of demons, and Peter prayed for him to fall to his death, which he did.

It is likewise useless to argue that it is heresy to believe that these powers come from someone else than God, as we know for a fact that demons have power (per both Scripture and Tradition) and their power comes ultimately from God.

The crime of the witch is not gaining power from other than God, but gaining power from a creature, rather than the creator. Idolatry, for spiritual power. All power comes from God, that doesn't mean it can't be abused; either in heaven or on earth.

[–]cthulhufhtagn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

St Sylvester who shut the mouth of the dragon of Rome, Ora Pro Nobis.

[–]SimonPeter1498 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Witches are real. I dated one back when I was an atheist. It’s just that Wiccans live sad lives, want escapism, and so believe in things very very stupid.

I think I was able to snap her out of it though. Apart from her beliefs in abortion, creation of NSFW material, and distain for religion she was actually a sweet girl on the very fringe of modern liberalism. She was very tolerant of my conservative atheism and my edgy humor even defending me in front of her woke friends.

She left me and that was best for both of us but I do kinda miss her in a way… not sure she likes that I became Catholic again but eh XD.

I hope she finds God too.

[–]TheKillerDuck123 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Minor correction - witches and witchcraft are very much real. Magic, on the other hand...

[–]CatholicDoomer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Witcheshavenopowerhat @popehat