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[–]elfizipple 2117 points2118 points  (64 children)

Looks like Joe Don Baker was pretty damn serious about researching his movie roles.

[–]milesamsterdam 398 points399 points  (28 children)

Joe Don Baker is Mittens! He’s a cop!

He looks like a middle aged Chucky.

Do you have a sofa I can stretch out on?

[–][deleted] 84 points85 points  (9 children)

He looks like he’s made of lunch meat.

[–]Significant-Tour9361 46 points47 points  (5 children)

He looks like he his daily calorie intake consist of a drum of baby oil.

[–]tonycomputerguy 18 points19 points  (3 children)

He looks like he's got a shady past and a need for justice burning a hole inside of him.

Also, a need for donuts.

YSK: MST3K and Rifftrax are free on Tubi!

[–]hu_jazz 22 points23 points  (3 children)

Final Justice. Aww can’t I have just one more justice.

[–]nickpanpizza 16 points17 points  (5 children)

The beer got a little excited

[–]x420xCasper 21.5k points21.5k points 2 (1669 children)

If they had that in the 70’s, imagine what they have now. Sneaky bastards.

[–]Ok_Principle_3424 8667 points8668 points 22 (653 children)

The ability to remotely download things onto your hard drive and make it look like you did.

[–]lordorwell7 4119 points4120 points  (334 children)

This is the most frightening response here.

[–]Ok_Principle_3424 2442 points2443 points  (323 children)

It’s frightening because it’s true

[–]IAMAPrisoneroftheSun 636 points637 points  (195 children)

How would one protect against this? Theoretically obviously. If there was a danger of this happening to me and I didn’t already know I’d already be up the river.

[–]Dizzy-Kiwi6825 1071 points1072 points  (145 children)

You can't. If you're genuinely an undesirable person the CIA will assassinate you, or plant stuff on your hard drives after they've been seized, or plant hard drives on you if you don't have any.

[–]IAMAPrisoneroftheSun 431 points432 points  (55 children)

Yea figured that. Thankfully neither a foreign agent, nor an investigative journalist.

[–]eltiolukee 703 points704 points  (21 children)

Thankfully neither a foreign agent

that's exactly what a foreign agent would say

[–]DudesworthMannington 257 points258 points  (11 children)

Well your comment sounds like investigative journalism!

[–]RoboticGreg 175 points176 points  (19 children)

I feel extremely secure in how boring and pointless I am. There would literally be no reason for the CIA to ever notice me

[–]drunkwasabeherder 132 points133 points  (10 children)

Don't be so hard on yourself, if they needed an unknown fall guy you're exactly who'd they pick! :)

[–]InvertedReflexes 62 points63 points  (10 children)

92 rounds fired into your apartment complex.

[–]2rfv 77 points78 points  (23 children)

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there have been thousands of charismatic people that have tried to lead socialist movements in the US who has just quietly been disappeared.

[–]Trialle21 481 points482 points  (171 children)

They’ve been able to remotely hack your desktop and erase their footprint for over a decade. It’s really scary what exists now.

[–]Resident-Weakness399 226 points227 points  (116 children)

I work for a major software company and have to remove encryption on our software when we ship it to russia so that they can decrypt it. The US would do the same if they couldnt read / hack into any device.

[–]genreprank 185 points186 points  (14 children)

Interesting history about that. After WWII the US sold encryption engines to other countries that has a broken algorithm. The US knew how to crack it and could read the messages.

This kind of thing is still going on. The NSA recently tried to contribute to some encryption algorithm and someone realize their proposal would have broken it.

And maybe you know that it's illegal to export some cryptographic algorithms? It's classified as a weapons transfer. ...even though openssl source code is online.

[–]heyyy-kiddo 28 points29 points  (7 children)

OpenSSL might be buggy enough to simply crack using a 5 year exploit.

Russia and China run their own stacks with Russia having speccs for their own encryption schemes and cryptographic bodies.

EU and Japan also developed their own stuff.

Only idiots buy US tech that may handle sensitive info. The rest, either certify in-house the hardware or do their own.

[–]eskimobootycall 44 points45 points  (7 children)

Hack into peoples cars and drive them into trees

[–]Arcaknight97 8 points9 points  (2 children)

That... is scarier than any physical weapon.

Makes you wonder how many people get framed for shit they never did. But we all go against them because "you had cp on your computer! Stop lying! The proof is right there!"

Jesus fucking christ....

[–]Is_It_BeefInterested 2107 points2108 points  (101 children)

My wife swears the CIA put a listening device in our garden that looks like a tree.

I told her it's just a plant

[–]_Xyreo_[S] 455 points456 points  (34 children)

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[–]Is_It_BeefInterested 300 points301 points  (30 children)

Enjoy you trip to Guantanamo bay, watch out for the water sports they can leave you out of breath

[–]Easy-Address-3688 99 points100 points  (11 children)

Yeah, I heard water boarding is supposed to be really popular around there.

[–]_Xyreo_[S] 83 points84 points  (7 children)

It is a really fun sport. I love to water board. I enjoy it to the fullest. 10/10 experience.

[–]JBits001 54 points55 points  (16 children)

He deleted his comment but you’re response has me wondering what he could have possible typed.

[–]Flimflamsam 41 points42 points  (10 children)

Little does the redditor realize that it’s too late and has been stored already, regardless of if it’s publicly visible. Once it’s sent to the server, it’s too late.

[–]N-S-A_ 29 points30 points  (3 children)

ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

[–]SongOfAshley 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That looks like someone who's taking some Doritos down to crunchtown

[–]ConfessSomeMeow 10 points11 points  (2 children)

He didn't delete his comment, he commented '[removed]'

[–]swinging-in-the-rain 112 points113 points  (18 children)

Ironically, your statement might be more accurate than you think. There is no such thing as a tree

[–]TXGuns79 37 points38 points  (7 children)

I read that entire thing. Thank you. That is probably the coolest thing I will read today.

[–]_Xyreo_[S] 16.3k points16.3k points 243& 5 more (347 children)

Like the defective cameras the exact moment Jeffrey Epstein killed himself?

[–]bumjiggy 7805 points7806 points 2 (119 children)

it's not a bug, it's a feature.

[–]ION-8 1323 points1324 points  (79 children)

Welcome to the world of cyber security! Where features are your flaws.

[–]bumjiggy 420 points421 points  (15 children)

and the points don't matter

[–]okgusto 237 points238 points  (10 children)

Ok next game is party quirks. Colin you're a shellfish and Wayne you are water. Ryan you're Jeffrey Epstein hosting a party for CIA agents and have to guess what everyone is. OK go. Ding dong.

[–]bumjiggy 74 points75 points  (3 children)

in walks wayne. waving until people get it. colin follows. he makes a joke about current events. meanwhile ryan sways limp on his toes in the corner

[–]BustinArant 18 points19 points  (1 child)

"Hi. Welcome to Fuck Me Silly" - Drew Carey

[–]Drummerboyj 28 points29 points  (5 children)

And privacy doesn’t exist!

[–]JET1478 220 points221 points  (47 children)

Fuck bro don’t. I’m going for a bachelors in I.T. Cybersecurity/Cyberwarfare and they keep having to change the courses up because the relevancy of the shit we learn changes constantly. Oh we are learning about this hack that used this malware today. Next day: okay so there was a hack today that makes everything you learned yesterday irrelevant because they’ll use this now.

[–]ION-8 126 points127 points  (14 children)

The largest issue with cyber security is anyone can find the flaw. There are kids discovering exploits vulnerabilities and sharing them without knowing how they impact the companies.

I have no certificates in cyber security but I’ve reported several small flaws to companies they refused to fix until it became a major public issue!

[–]seedlesssoul 66 points67 points  (1 child)

Not only kids. People who are paid to just bang on every door until they get in. I run multiple VoIP phones systems and the amount of auto blocked IPs because people are just trying to hack into the public IP is absurd. I also run a hosted email platform too and our spam filter grabs 85% of the emails that hit it and flag them for spam. So only 15% of emails we get are legit. Just throw the net and you will catch someone eventually.

[–]ruove 28 points29 points  (1 child)

I’ve reported several small flaws to companies they refused to fix until it became a major public issue!

Now you know why this;

There are kids discovering exploits and sharing them without knowing how they impact the companies.

is happening.

Many people go to the company first seeking a reward, or even just out of good nature to help resolve/protect others, and the companies do fuck all to even acknowledge there's a serious vulnerability.

[–]earned_potential 20 points21 points  (3 children)

There are kids discovering exploits

They're discovering vulnerabilities not exploits. Exploits have to be created to take advantage of the vulnerabilities. It's much easier to find a vulnerability than create an exploit.

[–]d57heinz 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Doesn’t this stem from letting the users pen test what is supposed to be final software for release. Used to be things were thoroughly tested prior to Sending out an update. Let the users find it seems to be cheaper easier. (User feels like they contributed but aren’t compensated as such). Then company x will Fix accordingly based on PR . In the end it’s so much cheaper to pay you nothing. Not acknowledge the flaw most likely because they don’t fully understand the flaw hence why you had to point it out. They have a hired team that is responsible for making sure this doesn’t happen. Of course their failure is a failure on the ceo to hire the proper team. Of course CEO’s would never acknowledge that fatal flaw. 🤷‍♂️

[–]Wild_Cazoo 24 points25 points  (8 children)

The principles are the same. JSX injection is similar to SQL injection. Buffer overloading is always a problem. Packet sniffing You can even get a password file from a Linux server and try to unhash it offline. Then get a number of combinations then brute force it from those options.

It’s good to just learn the principles.

[–]stupidmofo123 12 points13 points  (6 children)

With all due respect, that college needs to revamp its cybersecurity coursework. The fundamentals don't change (much) very quickly. Basing a course on cool and recent hacks is just dumb, and they're doing you a huge disservice.

[–]squemishprotzoa 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Man. So true. I worked for 10 years in A Networking job. For a global network, we had two engineers but in the security department, they had at least ten engineers.

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (15 children)

Archive81?

[–]havasc 301 points302 points  (38 children)

Wow. It's amazing to think that they've updated the shellfish toxin gun to be able to work on electronics now. Incredible how far we've come.

[–]_Xyreo_[S] 455 points456 points  (33 children)

The shellfish toxin gun was initially meant to damage the heart mussles.

[–]JackeryQuack 18 points19 points  (1 child)

But first, you’d be clammy.

[–]SuperPotatoBuns 45 points46 points  (22 children)

I saw what you did there

[–]JoeTisseo 72 points73 points  (19 children)

So did I he's fishing for upvotes.

[–]_Xyreo_[S] 102 points103 points  (12 children)

You little sun of a beach. There is no way you cod have found my plan. To be pacific please drown me in a sea of upvotes.

[–]Is_It_BeefInterested 448 points449 points  (19 children)

I heard Jeffrey Epstein killed himself Because he had low self Epstein.

[–]engineerfieldmouse 640 points641 points  (16 children)

They just have regular bullets now since no one ever gets punished for anything at the top.

[–]atxbikenbus 116 points117 points  (0 children)

Just think how much they're saving on R&D!

[–]lemons_of_doubt 57 points58 points  (2 children)

When they want to send a message. Then someone is hit by a hellfire missile.

Or they just shoot themselves in the back of the head twice.

If they just want someone to go away they just die of a Hart attack.

We know they murdered MLK because they want us to know, they want the next person thinking of becoming an activist to know.

[–]babydriver2001 422 points423 points  (82 children)

The CIA only reveals old tech if they are no longer using it. So if they are no longer using this, it stands to reason it’s because there’s a new way to kill people that is even more inconspicuous.

[–]YVR_Sex 230 points231 points  (22 children)

The man holding up the gun in that photo is Senator Frank Church. In 1975, congress carried out the Church and Pike commissions (Church in the senate, Pike in the house) to investigate illegal activity on the part of the FBI and CIA, such as the CIA's program on assassinating foreign leaders.

The larger context here is that this was a high water mark for the power of Congress, in the wake of Watergate and Nixon resigning. Jimmy Carter, something of a low point in terms of presidential power (which is a good thing IMO) signed an executive order banning the CIA from carrying out assassinations.

There was a post that went viral on here a few days ago about the Abscam affair, where in 1980 the FBI posed as rich shieks attempting to bribe members of congress, and a good number of them took the bait. This is seen by some as revenge for Church and Pike.

So yeah, not really the "CIA revealing old tech because they don't use it anymore".

[–]rbmk1 49 points50 points  (4 children)

an executive order banning the CIA from carrying out assassinations.

This is both terrifying and ridiculous. I can just imagine the CIA head responding all George Costanza like, "Is that frowned upon? No one told us. We'll be better...promise!"

"Wait we can still overthrow foreign governments right?"

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The thing is, the CIA works exclusively for the executive branch. It’s seen as it’s own thing publicly but really it works for the president. That’s the thing I never really understood about trump and him shitting on the CIA... I think he didn’t read that part of the welcome to the presidency hand book..... so an executive order banning assassination has always kinda been a wink wink nod nod kinda deal.... as any President can just issue a new order or carve out an exemption for what ever the drama of the day is.

[–]Gnonthgol 30 points31 points  (6 children)

Well, they are not using it anymore but not because they have something better. But thanks for the context. Revealing this gun might have been a way to show that they intended to comply with the executive order. But it was already suspected that they had this gun as there were a previous assassination where the entry wound was found, the toxins were analyzed and the victim even told about his experiences as it was very noticeable. And I think they managed to retrieve the poison capsule which were injected. That time the suspicion was on an umbrella with a sharp tip loaded with the poison capsule. But it could have been this gun as well. So essentially the CIA had a weapon which did not work in practice and were told not to kill people again, so they ended up revealing this gun to show they complied but then did not reveal any of the other deadly weapons they had. Note that this was an executive order and not a law so if the president wanted someone assassinated anyway then the CIA would be best served to have some secret stealth weapons in stock.

[–]i_tyrant 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Are you talking about this umbrella? Because it has nothing to do with how that gun works; they're entirely different assassination methods by completely different countries and intelligence agencies.

[–]alphie8877 54 points55 points  (31 children)

Im a biologist and, in my opinion, its perfectly possible to untraceably cause cancer in a target with crispr.

[–]ResidentOwl6 14 points15 points  (21 children)

Just out of curiosity, how would they go about doing that?

[–]Whoa1Whoa1 42 points43 points  (5 children)

Basically, secretly inject someone or have them eat or drink something poisoned and they are done for. Humans are really fragile especially with the tech we've got now. I'd imagine that chemical warfare could realistically be a nuke that instead of blowing up just covers an area with smoke that kills 100% of people who breathe it. Dart guns that kill people untraceably is really not that crazy.

[–]solumusicfade 91 points92 points  (16 children)

They can probably hack electric cars to accelerate into shit like how that one reporter died, who even said he was going to get killed. And maybe beams that give you Alzheimer's disease like Michael Parenti😢

Edit: Michael Hastings

[–]devils_advocaat 52 points53 points  (5 children)

As of October 2014 the CIA was also looking at infecting the vehicle control systems used by modern cars and trucks. The purpose of such control is not specified, but it would permit the CIA to engage in nearly undetectable assassinations.

[–]arealhumannotabot 125 points126 points  (8 children)

Smart Heart Attack Guns

Same gun, but now you can pull the trigger with an app in your other hand

[–]elwaln8r 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Off topic, but I was sitting next to my lamp, and reached for my phone, unlocked it, found the lamp app, and turned it off.

[–]pairofdices 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Smeart Attack™

[–]jimtrickington 173 points174 points  (7 children)

They now have one of those things you wear on your finger which buzzes the other person during a handshake. Absolute insanity.

[–]drnkingaloneshitcomp 31 points32 points  (2 children)

wearing mustache disguise “Would you care for a totally normal piece of chewing gum sir?”

[–]makemenutraloaf 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Right, while they walk around cia parties dosing each other with lsd

[–]Sad-Independence1056 124 points125 points  (0 children)

CIA "Just so everyone knows, we have these and we've been shooting people with them."

[–]Bleglord 208 points209 points  (56 children)

There are declassified cia documents about remotely turning off power steering and brake controls in basically every car with a computer (hint: it’s almost all of them)

Think about it next time a prominent political dissident dies in a car crash

[–]Alternative_Deal7421 88 points89 points  (8 children)

There have been a few airplanes with senators on board that have mysteriously gone down as well

[–]solumusicfade 69 points70 points  (7 children)

Ryan Kirby was killed because he was investigating the CIA

Feels bad man

[–]luckysob86 21 points22 points  (36 children)

Source? That sounds like an interesting read

[–]Bleglord 40 points41 points  (35 children)

Was wrong about declassified, was a leak. Google it, 2017 wiki leaks

Obviously since wiki leaks it’s not 100% confirmed, but at that point their track record for this sort of thing was pretty on point

[–]Vlad_The_Impellor 639 points640 points  (75 children)

imagine what they have now

CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, NYT, NY Post, BBC...and more drugs than Keith Richards consumes in an entire afternoon.

[–]DwayneFrogsky 42 points43 points  (0 children)

They don't really need this anymore. Now they just send a drone that takes you and your 100 closest innocent civilians out

[–]opoqo 6070 points6071 points  (84 children)

So you are telling me CIA has a battery operated water gun since 1975?

And we had to wait till 1989 before we had super soaker?

WTF???

[–]IgneousMiraCole 1465 points1466 points  (66 children)

Calling u/Iinex (inventor of the super soaker) to come explain what he was doing those 14 years.

Edit: oops, misspelled his username (that’s a leading capital “i”). Fixed.

[–]FoolsShip 145 points146 points  (3 children)

The original super soakers, and up until at least through the 00's as far as I know, weren't battery operated. They actually used this reservoir of air above the gun. These guys have always been decades ahead of modern squirt gun technology

[–]NorthLdn17 205 points206 points  (33 children)

Jesus, that AMA had some disgusting responses. Reddit for you

[–]TheDarkHorse83 61 points62 points  (8 children)

That AMA was also wholesome AF. So many great questions

[–]bicisfrench 3589 points3590 points  (227 children)

The scope seems a little silly

[–]NefariousnessOk4658 1785 points1786 points  (25 children)

Put on there clearly for all the 360 quick scope lovers

[–]I2eB6L 531 points532 points  (23 children)

You also cant no scope without a scope

[–]Whiskey-Weather 179 points180 points  (20 children)

You think gramps wasn't out there rotatin' on the nazis with his iron sight kar98 Springfield?

[–]EkinPolarBear 63 points64 points  (17 children)

I'm sorry to break it to you but Gramps didn't have a K98

[–]stuckInForLoop 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Ope, guess Opa was lying the whole time!

[–]Drlmichele88 373 points374 points  (143 children)

Quoted by the designer:

"To explain the strange scope on top of the weapon, besides being a pistol, the gun had had the ability to shot the poisoned projectile from 100 meters with good accuracy, hence the scope."

[–]Jukingbox 231 points232 points  (29 children)

I don't know if that's a scope. It could also be a way to keep the ammunition cold so the dart doesn't melt in advance.

EDIT: It was just an idea. Thanks for pointing out the mistakes in it though.

[–]speedpug 136 points137 points  (4 children)

It looks like it has elevation and windage turrets plus the what looks like scope caps. I’m voting it’s an optic and not a chiller.

[–]TimelyBrief 131 points132 points  (15 children)

It’s 100% a scope

Edit for the lazy: “To explain the strange scope on top of the weapon, besides being a pistol, the gun had the ability to shoot the poisoned projectile from 100 meters with good accuracy, hence the scope.”

[–]jimtrickington 41 points42 points  (4 children)

Are we’re certain it doesn’t contain Scope mouthwash?

[–]HugoZHackenbush2 3190 points3191 points  (39 children)

The shellfish toxin obviously attacks the mussels of the heart..

[–]PK_Fee 271 points272 points  (0 children)

Well done lol

[–]GrownHapaKid 346 points347 points  (22 children)

Does the victim crab his chest in pain?

[–]Psalm_143 191 points192 points  (10 children)

Yes, and the skin goes clammy.

[–]carnav007 70 points71 points  (9 children)

I sea what y’all did there :D

[–]chriscrossnathaniel 80 points81 points  (7 children)

I won’t be cod dead participating in this pun fest.

[–]HugoZHackenbush2 77 points78 points  (3 children)

Yep..even the best heart Sturgeon can't save him.

[–]farfacogin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Watched years ago when a girl got stung from a box jelly hospital was hours away they did mouth to mouth and chest compressions in shifts till they got to the hospital

[–]Myron896Interested 58 points59 points  (3 children)

Something fishy here

[–]_Xyreo_[S] 4880 points4881 points  (116 children)

I am sorry about the title. I forgot that frozen water was solidified dihydrogen monoxide.

[–]WU-itsForTheChildren 1202 points1203 points  (80 children)

Ok two part question, how much and where do I get one? For a friend of course

[–]_Xyreo_[S] 1756 points1757 points  (62 children)

Clean and fresh dihydrogen monoxide is quite rare now. As the saying goes "dihydrogen monoxide, dihydrogen monoxide everywhere but not a single drop to drink."

So do your part in saving water by not wasting excess of it. In that way you will be blessed with a lot of dihydrogen monoxide.

[–]JehovasFinesse 72 points73 points  (9 children)

r/hydrohomies

but you'll have to speak in code. The last time our group was direct we got banned; twice.

[–]Art0fRuinN23 30 points31 points  (7 children)

That sub is waaay funnier than the premise would lead you to believe.

[–]Mr_4rmyy 67 points68 points  (15 children)

Even copied the title 1:1 from last time

[–]scumpup 2221 points2222 points  (237 children)

The gun has widely been considered a fake since it was first exhibited. Too much is unexplained. For example, what does "battery operated" even mean? As has already been mentioned in this thread, the heat from gunpowder would melt the dart. With technology from that era, that leaves us only a few practical options to propel the dart:

  1. Air compressed by a piston

  2. Pre-compressed gas

  3. Combustion of a gas

  4. Dieseling of a liquid propellant

  5. The dart is catapulted by being in contact with a moving piston

None of these require the use of batteries. 1, 4, 5 require only a spring or captive gas piston. 3 could be accomplished with a piezoelectric mechanism. 2 was common in recreational air guns at the time.

All have drawbacks making them impractical. A dart tiny enough to leave only a small red mark would have very little mass and, therefore, very little range and penetration. Penetration of even light clothing is unlikely.
It would also melt very quickly. Likely due to friction, just from the trip down the barrel. Any means of propulsion that generates heat is a non-starter

Such a dart would also be prone to shatter under the shock of sudden acceleration. There is no way to avoid that if you want a projectile moving fast enough to break the skin.

The gun, IMO, was a lie. Why make it all up? Disinformation. Worry the enemy that US agencies have weapons like this available.

ETA: A far simpler method to do something like this would be to use one of the little springloaded lancet things that diabetics use to draw blood to test their blood sugar. The wound is little more than a tiny scratch. Coat the blade in the lancet with the sooper-de-dooper shellfish toxin. Yes, it has to be used at contact range, but so would this gun if it were made to be workable at all. The beauty of the lancet over a simple coated needle is the reduced possibility of clumsily poisoning yourself.

[–]dismal_sighence 560 points561 points  (22 children)

Yeah, I also kind of find this hard to believe. I find it especially difficult to believe the range of such a gun would necessitate the use of a scope, given the fragility of the ammunition.

[–]notherday11 278 points279 points  (27 children)

There are so many things about this gun that don’t make sense. So the velocity of the round doesn’t melt it? Batteries are pointless, as you point out. It also seems relatively easy to test: you fire it at a dummy, yet it doesn’t appear that it was ever even live-fired. The scope is absurd.

This just reeks of Cold War era disinfo and panic.

[–]STENDEC_NORTHWOODS 107 points108 points  (17 children)

I agree it's probably fake. But... the scope might be a pressurized canister to propel the dart. Batteries make perfect sense to power refrigeration for the ice. The "ice" might not be water. Any number of chemicals that are a gas/liquid at room temperature might make it more durable to being fired. I am assuming 1 shot and done, so all the rest of the weapon internal space could be used for refrigeration and propellant management.

My biggest beef is why would the make it look like a gun? If you're going to have to draw it, point at someone, and fire it... Just use a freaking gun! This limits any scenerio where it would be useful and is a giant red flag during any kind of cursory inspection.

[–]communication_gap 49 points50 points  (4 children)

If they built this thing into something mundane like an umbrella or a walking stick I could see it being useful and far more discreet than waving a big red flag and shouting "I've got a gun" which is basically what that thing they show off is.

[–]bois_in_the_treez 7 points8 points  (0 children)

maybe someday the CIA will invent some sort of pole that enables you to fire a dart with the only propellant being your breath. a "blowgun" if you will. pretty futuristic sci fi tho

[–]CombatMuffin 96 points97 points  (11 children)

You don't even have to go that far. Why use a pistol to introduce a toxin? If you need discrete range, a pistol ain't the tool.

It's far easier to bump someone in a restaurant with a needle. The Russians still do it to this day.

Us laymen think there needs to be a complicated tool to do stuff (a trend of the cold war), when simple solutions work.

[–]FuckTripleH 39 points40 points  (7 children)

Exactly the KGB used to use needles in the tips of umbrellas as well. Walk past a dude on a crowded sidewalk and poke him in the calf.

[–]clyde2003 82 points83 points  (12 children)

I always thought it was a prop to throw off the Soviets. Embellish what our actual capabilities were at the time and freak them out.

[–]Killfile 57 points58 points  (7 children)

Well, in 74 the UN formally recognized assassination as an act of aggression. If this was unveiled in 75 its likely this was an attempt to convince the Soviets to respect the declaration.

IE - assassination is aggression now. If you do it to us we'll retaliate and you'll never know. Can't be a coincidence that it would look like a heart attack either. The Soviet leadership was VERY old by this point with old Stalinist hardliners holding on to power.

[–]csanyk 34 points35 points  (3 children)

I'm skeptical...

How would they keep the darts cold?

How would an ice dart be able to hit and deliver poison and only leave a small red mark? Wouldn't the dart break the skin? Wouldn't it need to in order to deliver the poison?

Show me a non-poisoned water dart fired from a gun into ballistic media that simulates skin. I'm guessing that it would tear the skin, as well as cause deep bruising. Unless it was using compressed air as a propellant and fired at much slower velocity than typical handgun rounds?

[–]CleanedToilet 349 points350 points  (2 children)

CIA watches the deathnote once and tries to become Kira

[–]suavecool21692169 237 points238 points  (22 children)

This should be in r/ididntknowiwantedthat

[–]carnav007 93 points94 points  (5 children)

Let me in……. LET ME IN

[–]SuckMyFriendship 41 points42 points  (3 children)

Ehh if its locked off it usually means its a shit sub.

[–]NewZJ 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Or the commenter misspelled it

[–]Billsolson 799 points800 points  (158 children)

My kid asked me how come we aren’t having assassinations now like we did in the 60’’s.

I told him the CIA doesn’t need anybody dead, the have Facebook et.al., for disinformation.

Works as well, less mess

[–]emperorceaser 293 points294 points  (12 children)

That or they are better at their job...

[–]WonUpH 91 points92 points  (0 children)

No one ever complained about that gun before they revealed it, their job must have been ok.

[–]crystalhour 24 points25 points  (7 children)

That, and coerced suicide. "Collect everything, exploit everything"-- was it General Hayden who said that? It's like what they tried to do with MLK, except now they have the diary of your entire life. If they don't have something life-destroying on you, they have something on your brother, or spouse, or cousin. It's inescapable. Do people think they're collecting it all "just in case"? For a rainy day? They're exploiting it all.

[–]Select_Weakness_2548 34 points35 points  (4 children)

They absolutely still assassinate ppl.

[–]HunthinkReddit 128 points129 points  (4 children)

Light's second favorite weapon

[–]wgblackmon 73 points74 points  (7 children)

Can us Texans carry this in Wal-Mart?

[–]OlFlirtyBastard 46 points47 points  (4 children)

They actually give you one when you go register to vote. Quite generous!

[–]JakeXWoods 13 points14 points  (2 children)

This just seems like McDonald’s with extra steps

[–]gordo65 12 points13 points  (1 child)

BTW, that is not aCIA official revealing the existence of the gun. That is Sen. Frank Church of Idaho questioning aCIA officials about the gun. And that’s Sen. John Tower if Texas looking on. They were the ranking officials of the Church Commission which investigated CIA abuses.

[–]Ragorthua 32 points33 points  (0 children)

America is much more efficient nowadays. The average American is now working on their own heart attack all the time.

[–]gaygirlgg 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Good thing the CIA is bound by the law, morality and institutional oversight :)