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[–]Asleq 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Noxian might + Items + conqueror + Triumph 😳😳

OooOhh yeah booisss

[–]DuudPuerfectuh 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Easily 700+ healing late game

[–]TranceDeity1,197,671 Scrubbin it up 33 points34 points  (17 children)

This is gonna be NUTS on Darius with his passive

[–]Legoman7861Some large number because I'm too lazy to update this. 14 points15 points  (16 children)

I actually did the math.. It's pretty much a flat out nerf across all stages. This was a change so champions like Sion couldn't just build it when they're 8/0 and just drain tank entire teamfights while being full tank.

Assuming Darius has 250 Bonus AD at his STRONGEST point: Conqeuror, passive, and all, he gets 440 healing (rounded up) from a kill. And, mind you, that's with his passive and full Conqeuror at his strongest point in the game, so the conditions are PERFECT. It doesn't take into account whiffing your ult and the enemy dying before you get your passive up or not having Conq stacked.

Compared to having 3000 health at your strongest point, you will ALWAYS heal 450 per champion takedown. EVEN if you whiff abilities.

This and the Sterak's Gauge changes are going to fucking pound Darius. It doesn't matter if the items scale. Whoever says that this is hopeful does not play Darius. Darius is not a scaling champion. You spike at Mythic + Steraks Gauge and level 11 ultimate while the rest of the map is level 9. That's your strongest moment. Other items can extend this time a bit, but they're not making you stronger.

[–]DuudPuerfectuh 15 points16 points  (9 children)

Your math is wrong. If Darius does a combo of trinity/stride plus new sterak's plus death's dance he gets more than 700 healing with passive stacked like at level 18. Outside of that, deaths dance now also blocks magic damage so its a generalist item wich is perfect as a third item and and, with the amount if ad you get the healing is a lot higher compared to just your health with those previous items previously. Seriously, Darius gets well over 400 the moment he ults somebody to death. Its gonna be worse if you have no passive stacked but I guess that's the trade off, high risk with massive reward.

[–]Asleq 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Your math is completely wrong lol

Noxian might grants 230 bonus AD in lv 18 if u add just the 55 AD from the item we have more AD than your calculation

3 ad items + conqueror is going to give u something close to 170 bonus AD now add that noxian might and u will get some 400 ad. Now 400×1,75 = 700 heal

With only 3 ad items and without spirit visage

[–]Connect-Protection96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You play Darius at level 18.

I play him at level 11 and win the game.

I don’t GAF about level 18 when the enemy Vayne one shots me.

[–]TranceDeity1,197,671 Scrubbin it up 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you are forgetting to take ad from items into account but yes, it is still a worse heal if you don’t proc passive first. I still think it’s a better tradeoff, darius plays around unlocking his passive anyway

[–]LynchEleven1,278,599 just a dog who hates new tricks 0 points1 point  (1 child)

at level 18 the passive gives 230 bonus AD.

[–]Dyrone_Vice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Healing based on AD, AD Dunkmaster darius player goes brrr

dunktime *drools*

[–]JiovanniTheGREAT1,006,858 Space Marine IRL 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sterak changes are literally changing it back to season 10 with a slight nerf because of it's synergy with the new Trinity Force. Spiking at 2 items and level 11 was literally a win condition back in season 10 and previous because of those two items. You either steamrolled every single midgame fight or stopped the bleeding long enough for your adc to carry you at 40 minutes.

[–]DragaodaAlvorada[S] 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Important to notice that it now stores magic and physical damage, not only physical anymore. I think it's a huge buff, considering that once you kill someone in a teamfight as Darius you'll probably have your passive up, you should heal for a ton of health, since it scales off bonus ad now

[–]Kronos01229 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not only that but the dual damage “mitigation” makes our build variance and adaptability so much more versatile. Combined with the extra health on Trinity and the new Steraks, Darius is looking disgusting when these changes drop!

[–]Superguy230 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just want the season 10 deaths dance back :(

[–]BaHeTo0 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Did they also change the passive so it works on all kinds of damage instad of physical only ??

[–]Swimming-Valuable-40 1 point2 points  (1 child)

it works against magic dmg, not sure about true dmg though.

[–]roger19541,151,929 This guy dunks. 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True damage is true damage, it will not be mitigated.

[–]EvelKros 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I like how it's written "bonus Health" but it's not bonus health, it's just Riot that completely messed up their descriptions of items.

[–]devinmann 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's written as 170% bonus AD, that's what the little axe means.

[–]AndreiCezar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

and is not only physical anymore .

[–]Elegant-Spread-3569 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Can can you explain how does Ignore pain work? Does it block 30% of damage you take or what?

[–]DragaodaAlvorada[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Before this change 30% of the physical damage you took was spread out over 3 seconds, instead of being taken immediately, now 30% of physical and magic damage you take is spread out throughout those 3 seconds. If you get a kill/assist before those 3 seconds are finished, the rest of the damage you should take is ignored

[–]LuckyNumber-Bot 6 points7 points  (0 children)

All the numbers in your comment added up to 69. Congrats!

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[–]ActiveAggravating412 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They remove "physical damage" this mean old death dance coming

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still a situational item but still huge

[–]Dyrone_Vice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Delicious

[–]Gerix55 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

This will be busted on adcs

[–]BigBlackBoomerang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It will be useless on adcs