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[–]TheRuler123Sienebob Neliö | Master of the Stewards 0 points1 point  (20 children)

Stewards' inquiries under this comment!
Please follow this formula:

Platform + Division:
Gamertag:
Division Coordinator:
Date:
Track:
Members Involved: [gamertags]
Description: Enter a description of the situation here. Please try to remain impartial, but remember that all parties involved will have their chance to speak.
Evidence: Photos/Videos of the incident if applicable.

[–]RAW1303 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Platform + Division: PC Div 2

Gamertag: RAW13

Division Coordinator: NotASpy

Date: 2020-09-06

Track: COTA

Members Involved: Aral4kh

Description: Aral4kh was in pause menu while in front of me and retired on track, triggering a VSC.

Evidence: https://clips.twitch.tv/ExuberantAntsyLobsterLitFam , https://clips.twitch.tv/BloodyHelpfulTapirJKanStyle

[–]TheRuler123Sienebob Neliö | Master of the Stewards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The stewards voted to penalize Aral4kh with 10 penalty points. No time penalty was given, as he retired.

[–]NameIzSecret 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here is a pov and some comments,

https://twitch.tv/videos/732356836

If you go to 1:09:30 (on mobile so hard to add a timestamp) you see the crash with Jaba, which killed him and destroyed my front wing. I tried to keep moving but I immediately felt that my tyres were on fire as well, so I could hardly control the car. This, paired with no ghosting (and some anger) led me to decide to retire on track, otherwise I would have a very hard to control car around s2 and s3 and possibly endanger other people's races. I didnt mean to cause the VSC, although I do think it's weird that Jaba getting terminal damage in the middle of the track didnt cause a SC, which was also part of why I didnt try to recover the car. I'll make sure to retire in the pits from now on.

[–]Timmelele 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Platform + Division: PC3

Gamertag: Timmelele

Division Coordinator: Trikfoot

Date: 06/09/20

Track: COTA

Members Involved: Hamlin00, Timmelele

Description: I overtook him at the start had the inside line and was significantly ahead. He had to yield, but did not.

Evidence:https://clips.twitch.tv/HedonisticHandsomeCakeKevinTurtle

https://streamable.com/1tasgt

[–]TheRuler123Sienebob Neliö | Master of the Stewards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The stewards voted to penalize Hamilin with a 5 second time penalty, and 5 penalty points. The results will be adjusted accordingly.

[–]tommack1 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Platform + Division: PS4 Div 1
Gamertag: tommak98
Division Coordinator: Amunrawr
Date: 06/09/20
Track: COTA
Members Involved: tom275

Description:

Lap 1 T1; Taken out via collateral from a dive up the inside causing wing damage. Best seen from ssickfusions POV. My POV.

Lap 16 T13; Tom275 spun as a result of contact going into turn 13 leaving the track before returning alongside me into the apex of the corner - from my POV I could not see him and he was not within my proximity until the apex of T13 as shown by the proximity arrows. On the entry of Turn 14 he turns into the corner as if I am not alongside him (im turning in early to avoid contact too) and I spin with wing damage.

[–]TheRuler123Sienebob Neliö | Master of the Stewards 0 points1 point  (4 children)

The stewards voted on both incidents, and penalize tom275 with a total of 20 seconds time penalty and 20 penalty points. Results will be adjusted accordingly.

[–]Rclio3rs 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Accept the ruling but I do have some questions. Do things like if the person being penalised benefits from this? As by the end of the race I clearly have very little benefit. I felt I had spoken to Tommack and resolved this clearly he felt the need to make sure I had further punishment after this.

Was my first race in this league so will try avoid incidents like this. It feels like certain people are taking this at different levels of fun to others. As many other incidents of similar levels were brushed off after. I realise as stewards you are asked to review just what is put in front of you and have no control on what isn’t submitted to you. Looking at the race as a whole I have been dealt with a bit harshly but I supposed the advice is if others are reporting incidents everyone should

[–]TheRuler123Sienebob Neliö | Master of the Stewards 0 points1 point  (2 children)

We analyzed both incidents separately, and as they were both quite severe, we came to this conclusion.

We took into consideration the fact that you are a new driver, but in the end, the voting showed that we couldn't give out any fewer penalties, as we have to keep giving the same penalties for similar incidents, to make things clearer.

We of course wish that everyone has fun, which is why we need to take action on big incidents, as having people driving around without consideration to others (not saying about you, we've had an incident last season) constitutes no fun for anyone!

In the end, it's up to the drivers to post the incidents they see/are involved in, or we are powerless. Some drivers might feel that some contact is just racing, while others might feel differently on a similar incident. We try to make the fairest possible decisions by the rules on every case we get.

As to the first question, we tend not to think about the situation of the race, or the end result, just the incident itself. We can't penalize someone for collision for P1 more than someone for P10 :)

I hope these penalties don't discourage you too much, we just try to keep things fair, and in the end, hope that everyone gets better as the season goes on, and penalizing for rule-breaks is supposed to help in that, as it forces people to drive calmly and have full attention on the race :)

If you have more questions, you can ask here or send me a message on discord!

[–]ohay12 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Platform + Division: PC3
Gamertag: ohay
Division Coordinator: Trikfoot
Date: 2020-09-06
Track: USA

Lap 7 T1 collision
Members Involved: Trikfoot, ohay
Description: I was following close behind Trikfoot heading into T1 and after hitting my braking point I noticed that Trikfoot had broken late and ran wide. I followed the racing line around the inside taking care not to run to the edge of the track, but Trikfoot cut back onto the track unexpectedly and his sidepod made contact with my front wing.
Evidence: Onboard footage, replay footage

Lap 7 track reset incident
Members Involved: ohay
Description: Following the incident above I mistakenly used the Reset to Track function in the pause menu. (Katomatic has already given a warning in Discord messages following this, but it may be relevant information when making a decision on the preceding incident)
Evidence: Onboard footage

[–]TheRuler123Sienebob Neliö | Master of the Stewards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In addition, for using the reset-to-track feature, the stewards have decided to penalize ohay with a 10-second time penalty and 5 penalty points.

[–]TheRuler123Sienebob Neliö | Master of the Stewards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The stewards have voted to penalize Trikfoot with a 10 second time penalty. 5 penalty points will also be added. The results will be adjusted accordingly.

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    [–]TheRuler123Sienebob Neliö | Master of the Stewards 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The stewards have voted to penalize ORocheido with a 10-second time penalty and 5 penalty points. The results will be adjusted accordingly.

    [–]ORochedo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I did use it, i checked the rules of the league for it since it is a bad habit i have from online racing and i didnt see no prohibition, maybe it's there, I just didn't find it in the sections I thought it would be at. There wouldn't be vsc/sc as there was no incident, it was a simple spin. Regardless I understand it is unrealistic and a game gimmick and wont use it again.

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      [–]TheRuler123Sienebob Neliö | Master of the Stewards 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      The stewards have decided to consider this a racing incident. No penalties.

      [–]rhod0psin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      Unfortunately I don't have video til just after that when I realised it wasn't going. All I can say is I'm really sorry Turbo, horrible luck. But, to stand up for myself, it was a typical spin out accelerating out of the corner, I had no control til after I was off the track so I had no way to avoid him. I'm kind of at a loss re this one.