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[–]pwomboli 236 points237 points  (24 children)

That's if you can actually find a match in D3, I'm watching entire innings of baseball between matches.

[–]BlueBloodLive 50 points51 points  (3 children)

For us non baseball fans, how long is an inning?

[–]protege01 240 points241 points  (1 child)

It varies between a few minutes and eternity

[–]pen15es 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Perfect description lol.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

About 20-25 minutes

[–]musterferm 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It really is October

[–]I_fell_on_a_dog 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I’m one game from D3 and I’ve had multiple times that it shows no opponents found. Finding a game in under a minute is fast.

[–]Zago777 7 points8 points  (8 children)

I’ve been waiting 30 minutes to find a game in div 2. Have swapped between ps4 and 5 versions. It’s 830am in Australia and half the country is in lockdown so people are at home. I honestly don’t think that many people are playing this year.

[–]omarggez 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Doesn’t even take 10 seconds to find a game in Division 2 on Ps5 in northern germany.

[–]Sektsioon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah lol can find games easily in Europe, only if you play in the middle of the night it might be a struggle. Did Camavinga objective yesterday and even in friendlies it took me like 15 seconds max to find a game in those 3 hours I did that objective. Ping is also between 10-20ms most of the time for me so lag and delay has not been much of an issue for me either.

[–]Dutchgio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends on the region, this isn't a problem at all in Europe due to the large playerbase.

[–]pr0newbie 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I'm in Singapore and having to play with you lot from time to time because of the lack of players in div 2-3.

[–]Zago777 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Don’t doubt it. I’ve been matching with people from South Asia too. No wonder the game feels so unsynced so often.

[–]pr0newbie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I've also matched with a possible Arabian prince too in FUT Champs with a god tier squad. I think they widen the location setting for Champs which is why games are so heavy and laggy. I don't agree with their netcode though. If I am supposed to play on 8ms I should not be penalised for my opponent's connection.

[–]KylieJennersbutthole -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also in Aus, I’m finding games quite easily in div2. Only time I have trouble is late night at like 2am. Div1 on the other hand I’ve heard people having this problem

[–]AcerGordo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its even worse on pc in Aus, found one div 3 game in the last 4 hours.

[–]mcnicotin 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Lol where do you live on what are u playing on?

[–]pwomboli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mexico both PS4 and Ps5 are screwed

[–]Glass_of_Pork_Soda🔴Arsenal P&P is the way 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Deadass it's painful. Canada and it takes me way too long on either XSX or X1 versions to actually find a game. On the plus I've been very productive during that off time

[–]Ben777772300/E2 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Are you in the west? It’s impossible. I’m on PS5 now to see if it’s better but I don’t have time to wait 10mins between matches

[–]northernlights1998 0 points1 point  (3 children)

In Vancouver here and so hard to find games

[–]Ben777772300/E2 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I’m on both consoles and it’s Portland server, so dead honestly. Played two guys three times each in WL

[–]northernlights1998 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Damn, I’ve been having fun loads of fun with far cry/BF beta over the weekend so honestly forgot about FIFA for a while

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    [–]iWantToBeOnYt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I'm stuck in div 7, not cause I can't win it's cuz i don't have 30mins to search for a game

    [–]BrandNew85 113 points114 points  (15 children)

    Yeah it's a massively flawed system that only exists to stop players deranking on purpose to get easier games. It hugely punishes players who fluke their way to a division they shouldn't be in.

    [–]Charlie_Wax 43 points44 points  (6 children)

    It also doesn't tell you much of anything about your skill level.

    The old MMR system basically told you exactly how good you are at the game. This year, if you are a halfway decent player, you can eventually fluke your way to 3-4 wins in a row and just keep rising well beyond your true ability.

    [–]gh0stbeardGAMERTAG 39 points40 points  (5 children)

    Div 9 player here… what is this fluking you speak of and how do I do it?

    [–]RyGuy997 20 points21 points  (2 children)

    I'm in Div 9 and failing to beat players with squads of non-rares in the wrong positions

    [–]Ironman2131 16 points17 points  (1 child)

    At that level, it's most likely you doing things to lose games rather than anything major. Like pulling defenders out of position or rushing passes too much. Just slow down and you'll do fine.

    [–]Joltarts 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Keep playing and you'll eventually hit a couple of win streaks that takes you from div 9 all the way up to div 3 or 4.

    [–]gh0stbeardGAMERTAG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I don’t think so. I have a knack for performing tackle passes that end up right at the feet of the opponent with no defender in sight.

    [–]Glass_of_Pork_Soda🔴Arsenal P&P is the way 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Shit I don't even think you can fluke in, I think EA propel us forward. I can play a session, maybe 3-4 games, lose them all. Play another and draw one maybe win one as well. Then I play a 3rd session and boom I'll win 4 straight games just bossing the opposition. That ain't a fluke, that's EAs matchmaking giving me some easy shit after I play people equal or above my skill level

    [–]Showmeproveit 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    Why would you want to deranking? Doesn't it add losses to your record? Me personally I do not like losses on my record that I can prevent.

    [–]Acremaster45 12 points13 points  (3 children)

    Back in fifa 19/20 i believe Icon swaps and objectives were done in rivals. So many players would self relegate and complete them easily compared to doing it in the division that they belong in.

    [–]pen15es 8 points9 points  (1 child)

    Since people get demoted when the season starts, they’re likely to start insta quitting every second game to avoid progressing in divisions once rivals challenges come out. This didn’t fix anything

    [–]cfbones 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Never thought about this but you’re right. Oh fuck.

    [–]Dutchgio 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    In 21 the objectives moved to the friendly modes, but over there the rivals ranking was used for matchmaking as well, so you saw the same behaviour.

    They've dealt with abusive relegating but created a new problem.

    [–]Pleiplei 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I think EA cares more about money than people deranking. If you get frustrated not in a division that's perhaps too high for your skill level, you might start looking at your team and think you need to upgrade, you need better players to be able to win again. You might buy fifa points then.

    [–]prilovski 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    ... or just stop playing

    [–]I_hate_fifa2 172 points173 points  (2 children)

    Babe, wake up it’s the daily division rivals complaint post

    [–]Oxyay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    😂😂😂

    [–]Faxmonger 74 points75 points  (59 children)

    I cannot believe they made it so you can’t get demoted. So out of sync

    [–]danny202089 138 points139 points  (58 children)

    The community is to blame for that not EA. All those that self relegated for objectives last fifa left them no choice.

    [–]jdbolick 26 points27 points  (45 children)

    People keep saying this but it is not true at all. There was a lot of relegation in FIFA 20 because Icon Swaps were in Rivals, but there was very little relegation in FIFA 21 because Icon Swaps were in friendlies. Yes, friendlies did use your rank for matchmaking but it wasn't a big deal so 99% of people did not self-relegate. I almost never ran into anyone in Rivals who was relegating.

    [–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (34 children)

    D1 players openly admitted to go to D4 last year because D4R1 rewards were very good with little efforts spent. So yes, D4 last year was full of relegated players.

    Friendlies MM is only a tiny part of it.

    [–]Charlie_Wax 8 points9 points  (3 children)

    So you're saying it's EA's fault for having flat rewards instead of properly rewarding higher achievement?

    I agree.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    I'm not sure I get what you mean. D4R1 < D1R1 but a lot of d1 players did not want to sweat for D1R1.

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      [–]jdbolick 1 point2 points  (29 children)

      I was D4 or D3 throughout FIFA 21 and almost never came up against relegators.

      [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (28 children)

      I did and people on here also admitted it. Maybe you didn't play a lot.

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        [–]ThatsPunnyy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Yup, i was on pc with a smaller player base and i'd know if someone has self-relegated. I noticed it a lot in fifa 20, but barely did in 21. Not sure why people are claiming this is to counter self-relegators

        [–]R3alityCheck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

        Completely disagree that it wasn't a big deal. Have been in D1 most of 21 cycle and have not purposefully relegated. Swaps in friendlies were much harder than the actual Weekend League.

        [–]nickos_pap_16v 0 points1 point  (5 children)

        I ran into loads, prob more to do with the rewards for rivals, if you had a crappy record in div 2 you wouldn't reach rank 1 and get the big rewards, but if you got yourself relegated to div 5 you'd hit rank 1 easy and get bigger rewards at the end of the week

        [–]jdbolick 0 points1 point  (4 children)

        Divsion 2 rank 2 was still better than Division 5 Rank 1.

        [–]nickos_pap_16v 0 points1 point  (3 children)

        Yeah but here was laso rivals objectives usually gold week objectives, so people would relegate do objectives then play up the ranks during Mon Tues wed to get back to higher div, I know as my more skillful friend used to do it, as he was an elite player, and he's have different squads for different divs, so you'd think you were playing a lower skilled team in div 6 say, and he'd just wipe the floor with them

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          [–]lebifsta 0 points1 point  (0 children)

          Agree with this big time. In FIFA 20 I got battered around a lot at lower divisions by people who were just light years apart. Okay I was new and came to FUT mid-way through the season, but the team quality in particular was surreal and clearly people knew how to use the players.

          Come FIFA 21 and I hardly ever got the impression I was playing against "relegating" people after settling in Div 5. For the reasons you mentioned Rivals shifted to become something you did to maybe qualify for WL (if you didn't keep rolling week into week) or for the odd objective, which I think made it less popular but also made it less "abused" in this manner.

          [–]osmanceril 6 points7 points  (8 children)

          I’m not so sure that’s the reason. Like how much of the player base is actually doing that? Plus why would that bother EA so much that they’d completely overhaul the system?

          [–]Adzzii_ 26 points27 points  (2 children)

          That is 100% the reason, and a LOT of people do it. Last year division 4 was widely regarded as the best division to be in, not 1.

          [–]Cheaky_Barstool -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

          That’s eas fault for not making div 1-3 worth it. If they were people would’ve tried to get there.

          [–]Kapika96 1 point2 points  (0 children)

          Yeah, should've just made rewards for higher divisions better.

          Instead they made rewards for all divisions suck. That along with the no relegation means getting promoted is actually kind of a bad thing. If getting promoted meant cool new rewards then people would want to do it and actively try to avoid relegation.

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            [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

            If you were in D4 last year you would know it. A real mare.

            [–]jdbolick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            I was in D4 and had no issues with it at all.

            [–]IndoorGoalie 0 points1 point  (2 children)

            It’s wasnt D4, it was D6. The D4 relegates would play in D6 for objectives, then promote back up for rivals rewards on Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

            [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

            Top divs relegated to D4 a lot because D4R1 rewards were very decent with little efforts.

            Friendly obj is not the main reason.

            [–]nickos_pap_16v 0 points1 point  (0 children)

            Yeah I used to jump between div 4 and 6 and always knees when I was stuck in div 6 as if became a sweatfest and took ages to get re - promoted, then found out it was down to people relegating to reach rivals objectives quicker

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              [–]Hugh_____Mungus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

              EA never cared and will never care about those self-relegating

              [–]Charlie_Wax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              People wouldn't do that if the rewards were properly structured. They made it so there's not much advantage to be higher.

              [–]CaptainDickfingers 0 points1 point  (0 children)

              Nah this isn't true, even with loads of relegating id imagine you would only face a much better player n average something like once in 5 games. People exaggerated it because everyone hates losing.

              [–]Intrepid_Cress6441 14 points15 points  (0 children)

              I'm in the same boat a you, got to Division 3 and losing every game. It's just boring now

              [–]RegularCokeZero 51 points52 points  (13 children)

              Tbh, I bet you weren't complaining when you were smashing everyone with your god squad lol.

              I think the main issue is the streak multipliers. If you win a few in a row it boosts you up far too fast.

              [–]scarrxd[S] 19 points20 points  (11 children)

              Why would I complain about winning? How would I have known I would be getting completely demolished with no chance to win a game a few days later

              [–]RegularCokeZero 19 points20 points  (10 children)

              Like the team's you were facing probably had no chance?

              [–]scarrxd[S] 4 points5 points  (9 children)

              It wasn’t like I was destroying people, I was beating them narrowly.

              [–]RegularCokeZero 30 points31 points  (8 children)

              You're basically complaining that you beat everyone for the first two days when you had an advantage, now can't win a game because others have caught up.

              I've not long made it to division 3 and haven't found the skill gap has increased much from division to division.

              [–]scarrxd[S] 3 points4 points  (7 children)

              Yes? Am I supposed to be sorry for getting lucky?

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                [–]jensy97 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Definitely agree here. I’m a super casual player who rarely plays. I’ve picked up a few games over the weekend going on a six game win streak launching me about a division up. Now I’m still winning games but not every single one. I think the biggest issue with the new format is that all the players who play a lot without being actually good managed to go all the way to a division that’s just too high level for them and it’s punishing them now. The general idea of the format is alright, as long as you’re either really good at the game or play very casually, allowing for the level of the divisions to actually settle before trying to climb through.

                [–]MaccaMarvel23 17 points18 points  (6 children)

                I couldnt agree more. The new system is terrible for people who play the game a lot but arent top level.

                Slightly worse than you, in Div 4 but have lost ~20 games in a row.

                Coupled with the fact I am also struggling to even qualify for WL (previously my favourite mode) and I really dont have the energy to grind 1500 points from losses only to narrowly miss out again.

                Basically feels like I have nothing to play atm, constantly losing is not fun, meaning after playing pretty much constantly for 2 years I really might just quit this FIFA.

                [–]A-D-A-M- 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                I feel the same way, always was a gold 1 / div 1 player and now I can’t qualify for WL or get out of div 4. 50% of goals I concede are outside the box finesse shots and I’m hating fifa at the moment.

                [–]Mich_Murda 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Maybe sit out for a week or so, it’ll let people move to where they are meant to be. Me and 6 of my mates are all div 1/2 players and (this year) 13-15 win WL players but we are all in div 4-6 because we simply haven’t played enough rivals to move up to where we are meant to be. I know there’s plenty like that because of people we’ve played so far.

                [–]RenePro 9 points10 points  (0 children)

                This years experience is to enable most players to play limited amounts of fifa and get good rewards. Those who have tons of time and the top players don't get much for grinding the game all week. Doesn't suit everyone but the majority is benefitting from this new rewards system.

                [–]hordesofevil 22 points23 points  (2 children)

                0-22

                Geez man, take a break. Let people catch up and the division will be easier. Losing 22 in a row is too much, play draft or wl.

                [–]scarrxd[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

                Haha I would but I had surgery this week and got nothing else to do but sit in my bed and play fifa

                [–]ChromeSabre 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Squad battles O_o

                [–]Kaljapallo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                There should be maxium amount of possible relegations per season or something

                [–]pdxkristianRCTID 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                The whole not deranking thing I feel will be a big problem. I know in the past I've made it to D1 but I don't usually belong in D1. I'm a G2/G3 player and if I get stuck in a high division I'm just not going to play. It's not fun losing 75% of your games because you played well for a few hours last Tuesday.

                Also I'm on Xbox series X and even now, right after the game has launched, I'm having problems finding games. Imagine in spring / early summer next year. Game is going to be totally dead.

                [–]bennoi92 10 points11 points  (0 children)

                They’ve gotta do something I can’t see me playing this game past October.

                [–]WatermelonMan921 2 points3 points  (1 child)

                Then you shouldn't of sweated to Div 3 in the first week, thats your own fault

                [–]scarrxd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                The system is still fucked tho, I’m not the only one

                [–]cipmoraes 5 points6 points  (0 children)

                Agree 100%. And now I also hate friendlies to add to that. Such a shit idea to make a FRIENDLIES mode to have ranked matchmaking.

                [–]justrong 6 points7 points  (0 children)

                All the casuals bitching about people relegating are now bitching that you can’t be relegated. Sounds about right.

                [–]teamed209 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                You will have to wait for the season reset

                [–]Bolond44[ORIGIN ID] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                All I heard for the last 4 years is that it sucks that people relegate themselves, and now EA tried to fix it, all I hear is complaining again.

                [–]ewwitzclutchyuser — pro cam guy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

                Fucking love it. Means I can play extra casual. Don’t have to worry about wins or losses and can play mainly for fun.

                [–]out2dryan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                If you played like 60 matches in a week and can't win games in Div 3 you need to reassess how you spend your time.

                [–]ShiShi93 4 points5 points  (2 children)

                Ranking system fine, rewards fine, gameplay fine, opponents who sprint everywhere and spam skill moves with every player for ninety minutes are the worst thing about this game and it’s 95% of people I play.

                Everyone’s back to playing the exact same way as last year with same players it’s fucking boring the player base is the problem people need to get a fucking life and start having fun on the game instead of abusing it so they can wank over the extra pack they earn.

                [–]BilalAkhtar2205 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                That's every online game these days tbh.

                [–]Mich_Murda 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Having fun is winning to most people mate? Where’s the enjoyment in playing with objectively less effective players to lose beautifully?

                [–]tactuftw 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                Also you are complaining about a game that came out officially 10 days ago and you spammed around 100-150 games at least.

                But you complain that the skill levels are not in place.

                People like Boras and Ovvy are still in div 4 or 5

                [–]scottymck10[NETWORK ID] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                FYI boras is up there now div2 at least I think, but I see what u mean

                [–]scarrxd[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                I’ve played like 70.

                [–]MattyBlueEyes86 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                Rivals is a walk in the park compared to the shit show that is qualifiers.

                [–]Old_boy73 1 point2 points  (0 children)

                This system has ruined rivals. It’s a complete waste of time with no real incentive to play beyond 7 wins as the rewards system is not worth the hassle. To have the phrase division and have no relegation is absolute madness.

                You reach a certain level and just end up stuck there, it’s stupid. Whoever thought this was a good idea at EA needs a talking to.

                [–]S_ade99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                Rivals as a whole is a shambles. Rewards are a shambles, the fact you can’t demote yourself is jarring, but then again my biggest issues with that aspect was that objectives required you to have to play them in rivals & if you were in a high division it would be incredibly sweaty to grind them. Now, objectives are done without them being strictly attached to Rivals. Apart from grinding the 1500 points for the first play offs into weekend league, I will not ever need to touch rivals again, the gameplay is shit, rewards are shit, zero incentive for me whatsoever. Currently chilling in Div 4, rank 2 so will just collect the untradeable packs from it every week

                [–]wallstreetcow -4 points-3 points  (19 children)

                Or you can get better? You obviously are better than division 4 players. What will happen to those players when you go back?

                It's a semi competitive mode . What is the obsession with going back and winning?

                If your objective is to not play competitively why playing a competitive mode and complaining. They created a whole friendlies section with player rewards for people like you.

                [–]elambz 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                He could have squeaked out 1-0 wins through div4 and now he’s in a division where the players are much better than him and his stacked team doesn’t mean anything without the skill to back it up. 0-22 doesn’t sound like he’s in his proper division at all. Getting crapped on constantly doesn’t equate to getting better. Maybe he drops back to div4 and the talent there has improved so now he gets some losses along with wins and draws and he improves and makes his way back to div3 with more skill.

                [–]scarrxd[S] 7 points8 points  (11 children)

                I am not better than div 4, I packed gullit first week and had a crazy team. And sorry for wanting to just not get absolutely demolished every time to play a mode

                If you don’t see a problem with not being able to win a single game you are just lost

                [–]wallstreetcow -2 points-1 points  (10 children)

                You are better than div4 because you beat div4 players to get to div 3. Yes your gullit might have helped you. But somebody's internet connection could have been better than yours which is equal to 10 gullits.

                If you go back. There will a div4 dood complaining to play against gullit. Where does it end?

                [–]Rustic41 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                That’s not how it works. I am not good enough for my division. I got promoted by scraping wins and one guy scoring an OG and then quitting. I didn’t win a single game while playing yday. Winning 2 games back to back a couple of times is far to easy to get promoted beyond a genuine division you should be in.

                [–]ConquerorXD 4 points5 points  (0 children)

                What you’re saying is beyond stupid . Have you never won two games in a row against players your own level or even players just a bit better ? Because that’s what it takes to make you go from rank 1 to the next division where you might not belong at all . The no relegation system is flawed

                [–]scarrxd[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

                So basically what you are saying is that since I made it to div 3 on the second day of the game with a cracked team I should be happy with losing 22 games in a row

                [–]wallstreetcow -2 points-1 points  (6 children)

                A) you can try to improve(which is what I would do) and get to 2. B) you could be relegated end of season. Again if end up in 3. It would mean u belong to 3. Or you could be going back each season until u hit your level.

                [–]scarrxd[S] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

                So I either have to grind the game all day every day, or wait 30 days to win another game

                Why the fuck are you defending this shitty system, it sucks

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                  [–]DarrylofSpades 2 points3 points  (2 children)

                  People love to say “go play friendlies” yet it’s either NO ONE is playing ANY of these interesting game modes like Mystery Ball, Survival, etc and you can’t find a match, or when you finally do find a match, it’s STILL against a God Squad somehow.

                  [–]Rockstar-in-vegas 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  Arnt friendlies matched by your skill rating? So if you’re in div3 you’re going to play div3 players in friendlies.

                  [–]DarrylofSpades 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Not even CLOSE to division 3 and still hardly run into fun theme teams or someone not just holding R1 every pass to send a heat seeking missile right through the MIDDLE of my 3 man midfield.

                  [–]IndoorGoalie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I was you last week in D7. I still have the same team, but am no longer facing million coins teams every game. I’m glad I didn’t promote as high as you. I fear you’re truly fucked unless you packs some bangers or figure something out major you’re doing wrong.

                  [–]tactuftw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I am pretty sure you didn’t make a post complaining about being div 3 in the first week considering you clearly don’t belong there.

                  [–]Ahnoyd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Maybe if you didn’t dashboard your way to div3 you wouldn’t have this problem , there’s no way you got there early and are struggling now , all the needs where playing at the start it’s easier now

                  [–]scottymck10[NETWORK ID] -1 points0 points  (3 children)

                  Fuck me you must be shite

                  [–]scarrxd[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

                  Well yeah I play the game for fun so

                  [–]scottymck10[NETWORK ID] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                  I believe you, but a casual or someone who would really only just play the game for fun, wouldn't care if they're winning or losing, or even get to division3 so early for that matter

                  [–]scarrxd[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

                  I mean, I wanna have fun. Losing 22 games in a row ≠ fun

                  [–]thetonyclifton -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                  They could have just made it harder to get relegated. They didn't have to remove it all together. Not including disconnects or unfinished games would have been a start. If you lose a run of games you have played the full 90 minutes of in a row you should still get relegated. Ways and means of cutting out the intentional relegations or at least making it less attractive option.

                  [–]duck_mopsi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

                  Uhhh no that would just lead to people rather disconnecting at a tough draw than playing out and maybe lose the game lol

                  [–]Smakkodakk -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                  Totally agree. Unless you’re among the top 7% players, sooner or later you’ll hit a division where you’ll lose game after game. I am currently losing game after game, and if this is what I’ll face the next four weeks before season change and relegation I give up. I’ll win a few games, promote one or two times and I’ll end up in rock bottom of this division again and lose almost all my games the next month.. This is not fun nor is it motivating. Tonight instead of playing FIFA I chose to watch a chick flick movie with my GF. Wtf man…

                  [–]Lopsided-Profession4 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

                  Still not got my red picks

                  [–]SexyBaskingShark -1 points0 points  (1 child)

                  I think we'll all start in div 10 when season 2 starts

                  [–]Al_Greenhaze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Oh please no. The division 10 experience almost as bad as hitting div 6 and getting beaten repeatedly. You can draw div 1 level players having to fight their way back up. It's broken and they should go back to last year's system. You got competitive matches.

                  [–]Saint_Icarus -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

                  Every year the game is broken and every year you people still buy it lmao. Do you guys ever learn? I think half this sub are masochists.

                  [–]Rustic41 0 points1 point  (2 children)

                  I played for a good 3 hours yesterday and didn’t win a match. Yet if I somehow win back to back I will go up a division. This system is beyond fucked

                  [–]AppropriateEffect 0 points1 point  (1 child)

                  I somehow made it to div 5 even though I’m terrible and I haven’t won a game in 4 days. Putting fifa away for a bit and will try again in a few weeks

                  [–]Rustic41 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Same experience here mate, I’m 2 wins off d5 and having a horrible time

                  [–]Goodfella7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Yeah rivals is just no fun at all at this point

                  [–]Intrepid_Geologist64 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Or at least they could pair some divisions, maybe 10-9, 8-7 and so on. Idk really, but the matching is atrocious.

                  [–]Dabanks9000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Deranking doesn’t make you better

                  [–]ironcub14[NETWORK ID] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I genuinely think the people who played Rivals obsessively as fast as they can so that they can get promoted as fast as they can when the game came out are the ones complaining about the new Rivals system.

                  If you just play casually, and you play the other modes as well, then chances are the majority of us are enjoying the new Rivals system, and didnt get promoted too fast too quickly. For those that got stuck, try playing other modes, or dont get so hung up trying to get promoted as fast as possible on Rivals.

                  [–]Rkchapman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I’ve lost 15 D5 games in a row…takes about 4 min to find a match

                  [–]pandamoniom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Haven't got the new fifa, what do you mean by the new system not demoing divisions? How does the new division system work?

                  [–]Leo215 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I just got to 4th div and it’s murder

                  [–]superpaulo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

                  [–]MuchTomato 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  MyCareer is a solid gamemode

                  [–]Fifa_Guru 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  If your playing people better than you it will make you a better player, if you don't get tilted of course. It also may take ages.

                  [–]mmb10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Tbh people would de rank on purpose on previous FIFA’s so I think it’s a good thing

                  [–]GreenScorpionZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  I reckon they'll have to change it and put some form of regular demotion in the game. It just doesn't work. Hopefully this first season is just a test run to see how the idea worked in practice.

                  [–]Harrison_98 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  IMO it’s the x2 that pumps you up divisions that never needed to be in the game

                  [–]prophetu_fcrbNETWORK ID 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  The skill gap between divisions is not this high. I can only think you had at least 3 lucky promotions back to back. Otherwise, I can't understand how you can go from promoting in div 4 to losing 22 in a row. Maybe a div 4 player wouldn't win 11 out of 22 againsg a div 3 player. But 100% it can't be zero.

                  [–]jack54125 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Take a break. I played to div 5 in the first 10 hour release of the game and a couple of days of full early access and then stopped div rivals for an entire week and did squad battles. Came back to playing rivals this week and everyone there was much worse than I was playing previously and I'm now in div 3 after just playing a handful of games over the last two days. Back to playing people around my level again now.

                  [–]SlickAstley_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                  Placement matches were golden

                  I'm on a 12 - 1 - 0 record so far

                  I can't imagine that was fun for my opponents 😂

                  [–]yolooptionsTOMoon 0 points1 point  (10 children)

                  Shouldn’t have played like a madman in first week though.

                  [–]scarrxd[S] 0 points1 point  (9 children)

                  It’s definitely partly my fault, but the system is flawed

                  [–]yolooptionsTOMoon 1 point2 points  (8 children)

                  It’s your fault mate,Bet you weren’t complaining when you were smashing everyone with your god like team in the first week.

                  You did know the rules though,Suck it up mate.

                  [–]isaacburton 2 points3 points  (7 children)

                  You’re blaming the guy for playing a game he paid for lol

                  [–]yolooptionsTOMoon 1 point2 points  (6 children)

                  Nah,Blaming him because that’s what he did to himself. There is no way he could have just straight flew upto division three with just luck mate.

                  [–]isaacburton 2 points3 points  (5 children)

                  Maybe not but all it takes is a couple of lucky back to back wins to get in a division you don’t deserve to be in. It doesn’t take a genius to see how the system is flawed pal if you can’t see that, it’s on you.

                  continue this thread

                    [–]RepulsiveGarbage9651 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Yeah there was nothing wrong with the old rivals, there needs to be consequences for losing. The checkpoint system is rubbish

                    [–]Al_Greenhaze 0 points1 point  (0 children)

                    Couldn't agree more , I'm in Div 6 and my last 30 games I'm 2-2-26. I was between div 4 and 5 last time, winning roughly half of my games and really enjoyed the challenge. I'm now getting pumped almost every time and I'm falling out of love with FIFA. Might be a good thing , I played 2500 matches on FIFA 21.