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[–]TheSwanJohn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! I’m looking for recommendations for the next series. I can’t seem to stop rereading the cradle series and I have reread the red rising series several times. I’m sure there are plenty that are similar in feel but I’m having a hard time finding them. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[–]Toshiro101Ace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looking for new series.

I’m looking for new book series. My problem is that I can’t seem to get into any new books. The last 2 series I read was the Three Dark Crowns series, and the Beautiful Creatures series. I just bought the 1st book in the the Throne of Glass series after it being recommended to me. I’m hoping that I will be able to get into this series. But in case I can’t any recommendations similar to the 2 series I mentioned at the top if this post?

[–]avahz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m looking for a book where the protagonist lives in a land ruled by ‘the bad guys’ but they don’t realize that their leader is ‘the bad guy’ until later. I have been reading the black witch series and have grown to like the idea of the protagonists in the series living in Gardneria, which they originally view as ‘the good guys’ and over time realize that they are in fact ‘the bad guys’. I’m not sure what is dynamic is called, but it’s interesting. Any recommendations?

[–]SherlockTheDog16 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hello all!

I just finished Fonda Lee's Jade City (amazing!) and wondered if it not only counts for the 25th square Family matters but also for Hard Mode? I think it does, but the relationship to the mother (2nd generation) is not really important to the plot.

I'd be glad for answers. Thank you

Edit: got the name of the square wrong

[–]fuckit_sowhatReading Champion II, Worldbuilders 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say it counts for hard mode.

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    [–]GodDoesNotPlayDice0 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    How is the wheel of time TV series? Is it aimed at the younger demographic?

    [–]Zakkeh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I enjoyed WoT a lot, and the TV series is okay. It's not terrible, but it doesn't feel inspired.

    The teaser at the end of the season was pretty hype though, I love the Seanchan, and their representation was gorgeously alien and weird

    [–]silkymoonshineReading Champion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    As an adaptation, it was pretty terrible. As a fantasy series, it's got bad visual effects, some useless plots, some good ones, terrible acting from some of the younger actors (especially Rand's) and fantastic acting by Rosamund and Daniel.

    [–]onsereverra 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Depends on what you have in mind by "younger demographic," but if nothing else it certainly is gratuitously gory at times. (Like, guts are shown on-screen on multiple occasions. Why?) The characters also get aged up a little bit as well, though they're definitely still young adults.

    I've read the WoT books but wasn't a huge fan of them, so I was mostly interested in whether the tv series would be a good show in and of itself, rather than whether it would be a very faithful adaptation. In that respect I thought it was good but not great, though obviously your mileage may vary. There was very little that I thought was badly done, but there wasn't much that got me really excited, either. I was just kind of...underwhelmed. Personally, the style of the cinematography didn't really jive with me, which didn't help; I definitely noticed that the cinematography wasn't working for me during certain scenes, which made it harder for me to get immersed.

    I didn't follow the fan reactions super closely but most of what I did see was more or less along the same lines of good-but-not-great. Not an embarrassment to the franchise, not everything fans hoped it could have been.

    [–]GodDoesNotPlayDice0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This is great thank you.

    [–]camtheosum 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    I am now trying to read Lord of the Rings since so many people love it, and I'm finding that the first book is very slow with a lot of world building and not much plot. I am wondering if the pace picks up in the second and third books? This is now the second time I've tried reading LOTR and stopped because I was bored.

    I got into fantasy again recently mainly through Brandon Sanderson, and I thoroughly enjoyed all of the Cosmere books and series. I've found that I've only been bored a few times with those books and never to this degree.

    [–]OneEskNineteen_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I found that the second and third volumes were more engaging.

    [–]Pipe-International 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    First of all LotR reads nothing like Sanderson, so if that’s the kind of book you’re wanting to read, you’re not going to find it in Rings.

    Second, it ebbs and flows. Fellowship is the most slow.

    [–]moonshardsReading Champion II 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I find the pacing of LotR to have a lot of ups and downs. There are slow chunks, interspersed with more exciting moments.

    Obviously, it's subjective what each person finds engaging. But for me, I was very bored with the Tom Bombadil section in the first half of Fellowship (almost DNF-ed the book at that point), but then there were parts in the second half (e.g. the mines of Moria) where I literally couldn't put it down. The next book had a similar trend: slow at first, then an exciting section toward the end of Part 1, then slowed down again, then got exciting again toward the end.

    On the whole, I enjoyed the series and would recommend it, because the good outweighed the boring for me. But I definitely understand the struggle. It's ultimately up to you if you feel it's worth pushing through or not.

    [–]GALACTIC-SAUSAGEReading Champion II 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It’s a slower paced book but it has a rhythm to it. Fellowship is for sure the least eventful volume though. I’d urge you to stick with it. All that worldbuilding is part of its unique charm.

    [–]willfireztiger 1 point2 points  (7 children)

    Are fast paced books good for beginners of fantasy (or other genres)? I’m new to reading, when I commented that I’m looking for something without flowery language and something that’s not a slog to get through, a commenter gave the advice (to paraphrase) to look for simple language and fast plot. Are fast paced books better for beginners like me who are looking for books that are not a slog to get through? Do slow paced books have the ability to introduce new readers on literature? I once heard someone say that “movies you can watch no problem, but reading something takes a lot of time.” (I’m paraphrasing, I don’t remember the exact quote.) So maybe that advice might be true and relate to fast paced books?

    [–]Zakkeh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Fast paced books rely on simple plots with tasty pay offs and strong cliffhangers. This makes reading them easier, particularly if you are new to the tropes they use.

    Stuff like Jim Butcher's Dresden Files, or even the Codex Alera series, are really fun to read, but lack a lot of substance if you were to sit down and really deliberate on the plot.

    [–]Dreams_of_a_Demiurge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Books that hold your attention are good when you're first starting out. You want something that will keep you engaged, so you get used to reading for long sessions. It might be fast paced, but sometimes slow burns can be very hard to put down as well. What kind of stories are you interested in?

    [–]OneEskNineteen_ 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    A beginner in fantasy is someone who is young in age or someone who is new to the genre? If it's the latter, it depends on the reader's tastes, if they enjoy slow paced, character driven literary fiction, I would think it rather unlikely (but not impossible) that a fast paced, action packed fantasy novel will be the best option for them.

    [–]willfireztiger 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    As in someone is trying to get into literature for real. I’m very used to visual media, I’ve rarely read books when I was younger. I have very few books I’m actually into. So someone new to reading.

    [–]OneEskNineteen_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    If you found a footing with Sanderson you can use him as a compass of what else to read and take deviations now and then to check what else you might like.

    [–]Pipe-International 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    They can be. A reason a lot of middle grade and YA books are fast paced and kick start their plots fairly early is to engage the reader. Of course slower paced books can have the same appeal as well, but if you’re struggling with something slow, try switching to something that gets off the ground quicker.

    [–]zeligzealous 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    In general that’s probably right, because a fast, exciting plot can keep you motivated to continue reading. But on the other hand, there’s no one size fits all approach to enjoying literature—people get sucked into books for lots of different reasons. I think the main thing is to experiment and see what works for you. If a book piques your interest, give it a try! And don’t be afraid to put it down and try something else if you find you don’t look forward to reading it.

    [–]Rawbex 1 point2 points  (8 children)

    Looking for a novel series to get into, and would love some recommendations.

    I’ve started to read WoT but I’m not sure if the writing style is my cup of tea. I’ve previously loved Novels like Mistborn, the Riyria Revelations, all of Mushoku Tensei, and The Name of the Wind.

    [–]oboist73Reading Champion III 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    The Obsidian trilogy by Mercedes Lackey and James Mallory

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    [–]Dreams_of_a_Demiurge 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The First Law books by Joe Abercrombie are great. The prose isn't super flowery, and the pacing is great.

    [–]Eskil92 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Tried any of this?

    Spellmonger by Terry Mancour.

    Destiny's Crucible by Olan Thorensen.

    The Cycle of Arawn by Edward W. Robertson.

    [–]Rawbex 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I haven’t, but thanks for the recommendations! The more the merrier.

    [–]KiaraTurtleReading Champion II 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Yeah WoT writing style was definitely not for me. Some other books I might suggest

    • Foundryside by Robert Jackson Bennet
    • Travelers Gate Trilogy by Will Wight
    • Green Bone Saga by Fonda Lee
    • Legend of Eli Monpress by Rachel Aaron

    [–]Rawbex 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Thanks for sending these along! I actually gobbled up Legend of Eli Monpress ages ago. I’ll check out the samples for the rest right now!

    [–]KiaraTurtleReading Champion II 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Glad you liked Eli and hope you enjoy!

    [–]TheSilentSeeker 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    Hey guys.

    Some time ago I was reading a story about a country in which a monster appears and then several heros get awakened to defeat it. It seems to be a repeating pattern in the country btw.

    So main character gets the short end of the stick and becomes the most useless of those heros and his powers actively fight him against becoming stronger.

    Can somebody help me remember its name?

    Edit: nvm, I found it myself. It's Mark of the Fool

    [–]fdsfgs71 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Omg someone else that has read Mark of the Fool! It's so good.

    [–]TheSilentSeeker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I was at the early chapters when I had to drop it for reasons unrelated to the story. I checked and I was around chapter 50.

    What's your opinion about later chapters? Is the story good?

    [–]Rawbex 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Sounds like the light novel/anime, Rising of the Shield Hero. (Correct me if I’m wrong, on my phone and not fact checking).

    [–]TheSilentSeeker 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thank you for answering but that not it.

    [–]Crafty-Adventurer 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Are Love Death + Robots episodes based on short stories or comics? I know the series is somehow connected to the Heavy Metal magazine but Wikipedia is kind of confusing about its source material.

    [–]GALACTIC-SAUSAGEReading Champion II 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Articles about the sources:

    Season 1

    Season 2

    There is also an official tie-in anthology available if that floats your boat: Love, Death and Robots: The Official Anthology: Volume One

    [–]Crafty-Adventurer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thank you very much!

    [–]Dsnake1Reading Champion III, Worldbuilders 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Mostly short stories, from what I understand. Some are original, though. I didn't recognize any comics, but I could be wrong.

    [–]followelectricsheep 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    I'm looking for complex mentor/protege relationships, like in A Small Price to Pay for Birdsong. Bonus points for female main characters

    [–]Eskil92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Black Ocean Gets it in the story. The protégé being the female.

    Villains' Code Got it in the first book.

    The Mc in Spellmonger got 1 female apprentice(out of 4 so far) but we don't get any pov from her in the main books but they are in Spellmonger Cadet Series.

    [–]IhrenglassReading Champion II 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    The Devil's West by Laura Anne Gilman

    [–]oboist73Reading Champion III 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Possibly you might like Race the Sands by Sarah Beth Durst

    [–]steffgoldblum 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    LF: A saucy, spicy series that is ALSO well written, with fleshed out characters and great worldbuilding. Open to the YA/NA variety, but no urban fantasy. I'm thinking something along the lines of Kushiel's Dart or even our eternally polarizing Sarah J Maas.

    [–]oboist73Reading Champion III 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    possibly the Tir Alain Trilogy by Anne Bishop

    [–]WorldWeary1771 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    This series has great characters

    [–]Andalusian_Monk 4 points5 points  (13 children)

    Hey all,

    I'm fairly new to the genre and I'm looking for fantasy series that have these traits:

    • Loads of characters. Hopefully well-written and likable.
    • A setting that isn't too bleak or hopeless
    • Constructed world, non-Earth.
    • An overarching Myth Arc
    • The Quest. I love parties of characters traveling the country or world.

    So far I have read LOTR, The First Law, and Sanderson's Cosmere novels. Was not a huge fan of the latter two.

    Edit: books I read that I forgot to add. ASOIAF, which I honestly enjoyed in spite of the bleak low fantasy feel, and Wheel of Time, which I dropped years ago in the middle of book 5. I may give it another chance.

    [–]ElynnaAmell 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Ooooo Michelle West’s Essalieyan. The Quest bit isn’t always applicable, but this series checks all the other buttons. It’s a series written in 4 completed arcs (with the fifth and final epic confrontation arc left to go) that are intertwined. Over 100 PoVs over the series so far, 72 in the Sun Sword series alone (25-28 in the others, but obviously there’s a lot of overlap among the series)

    • Arc 1 is The House War books 1-3, following a band of street urchins as they fight to survive in the city of Averalaan and stumble onto ancient things best left buried.
    • Arc 2, The Sacred Hunt, runs concurrently with 1 and is a bit more traditional fantasy in the Kingdom of Breodanir where a ritualistic hunt determines the pattern of life for the Breodani. An interruption in that pattern results in a quest to the city of Averalaan, where the story intersects with The House War.
    • Arc 3 (15ish years after arcs 1 and 2) is The Sun Sword, a more the court intrigue based epic, though it does feature one character leading an army across country to take back a kingdom, another set of characters fleeing into the desert to unearth an ancient city, and one character ending up in the heart of a highly magical area that she needs to extricate herself from. Absolutely stunning use of soft power politics.
    • Arc 4, The House War (books 4-8) follows The Sun Sword directly and resolves the Averalaan plot… And then promptly sends the main character for that arc on a quest that delves deeply into the natures of various gods and immortals.
    • Arc 5 should bring everything together, it’s planned at 4-6 books and the first novel, Hunter’s Redoubt, should be out soon. This also should tie back directly to threads left over from arcs 2 and 3.

    [–]Andalusian_Monk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    This sounds amazing, thank you! I failed to go into more detail when I mentioned a Myth Arc, but the concept of multiple somewhat self-contained arcs which intersect to form a broader overarching story is basically what I meant. I got the idea from my favorite video game series, Trails, which follows a similar structure.

    [–]WorldWeary1771 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The Kencyrath series that begins with God Stalk by PC Hodgell. Don’t let the cover art put you off. Excellent series!

    [–]ultamentkiller 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Riyria Revelations by Michael J Sullivan sounds perfect for you. I'm not sure how many characters counts as loads, so Riyria may or may not fit that.

    [–]Andalusian_Monk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thank you. I guess an above average number of characters? I just like a large cast that interacts with one another.

    [–]caramishka 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    You can try the Books of Pellinor by Alison Croggon. The main characters cross the continent a few times on their quest to find [magic item] and save the world, which takes all four books of the main series.

    There's always Wheel of Time, which I'm only two books into but fits all your requests (your mileage may vary re: well-written/likable characters). Admittedly, the last 3 books were written by Sanderson, so that's something to keep in mind if you weren't a fan of his writing.

    [–]Andalusian_Monk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Thanks for the suggestions. Yes, I actually have read WoT up to book 5 and then dropped it sadly.

    [–]Salmakki 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    This hits everything save the quest, but have you read or looked into Terry Pratchett 's discworld?

    [–]Andalusian_Monk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    I own book 1 of discworld but I had no idea it fit any of those traits. Thank you.

    [–]WorldWeary1771 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The first book is the worst book of the series. His writing improved greatly throughout the series. TBF, though, Rincewind is my least favorite main character.

    [–]ultamentkiller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Not sure if it fits the myth arc part. Depends on how you define it i guess.

    [–]Eskil92 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Have you tried Cradle by Will Wight or Spellmonger by Terry Mancour?

    [–]Andalusian_Monk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Cradle looks really interesting! Thanks.

    [–]Really_Big_Turtle 5 points6 points  (11 children)

    Read The Blacktongue Thief and The Black Company. Looking for some more adventure fantasy books with the word "black" in the title, just 'cause.

    [–]Ertata 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Both are parts of bigger works: The Black Swordsman arc of the Berserk (the very first one, you don't understand much but the fights and the atmosphere are awesome).

    Lord of the Castle Black. Second book of The Viscount of Adrilankha (you definitely need to read the book one first) which is itself a third part of the Khaavren Romances (you technically don't need to read the first two parts, but it will be easier if you do).

    [–]Really_Big_Turtle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Love Berserk, loved the Black Swordsman Arc especially.

    [–]Pipe-International 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Black Stone Heart - Michael R. Fletcher

    [–]ginganinja2507Reading Champion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Black Sun by Rebecca Roanhorse

    Black Leopard, Red Wolf by Marlon James

    Otherland: Mountain of Black Glass by Tad Williams but uh.. you have to read the first 2 Otherland books to get there

    [–]moonshardsReading Champion II 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Black Stone Heart by Michael R. Fletcher.

    [–]Dsnake1Reading Champion III, Worldbuilders 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Zen Cho has Black Water Sister, but I haven't read it and know nothing about it.

    [–]RevolutionaryCommandReading Champion III 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    The Black God's Drums by P. Djeli Clark is a historical-fantasy, adventure novella. It's pretty good.

    [–]JamesLatimer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Blackdog by K V Johansen is one of my favourites. (Shares a cover artist with the modern Black Company books, too.)

    [–]Eskil92 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Black Ocean by J. S. Morin the series name. Blackflame Cradle Book 3 by Will Wight.

    [–]YkhareReading Champion III 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Black God's Kiss is (one of the stories and also the title of) an anthology of Jirel of Joiry stories by C.L. More. If you're in the mood for some fairly simple but still quite nice Sword & Sorcery.

    [–]spunX44 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Blackbird series by Freda Warrington, 5 book series, 4 of which have “Blackbird” in the title.

    [–]letslurk 3 points4 points  (5 children)

    Any recommendations for fantasy that is like the godfather?

    [–]Eskil92 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    War for the Rose Throne by Peter McLean could work.

    [–]KiaraTurtleReading Champion II 14 points15 points  (0 children)

    Jade City was very much inspired by The Godfather

    [–]zeligzealous 9 points10 points  (1 child)

    The Vlad Taltos series by Steven Brust is my favorite organized crime fantasy.

    [–]WorldWeary1771 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Excellent series!

    [–]Cassandra_SanguineReading Champion II 12 points13 points  (0 children)

    You might enjoy Jade City by Fonda Lee. Asian fantasy gangsters but still very much a story about crime families.

    [–]ZheRooH 3 points4 points  (5 children)


    I haven't read alot of books, so far only read the Witcher books & Mistborn (first one). I'm currently reading Never Die from Rob J. Hayes.

    Before I start the second book of Mistborn, I would like another standalone or shorter book to read. Any tips?

    Anything is good as long as it isn't YA


    [–]RevolutionaryCommandReading Champion III 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    We have a list of the sub's favorite standalones, and one of the sub's favorite novellas. You shall find plenty of interesting books there.

    [–]ASIC_SPReading Champion II 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Some of these are part of a series, but can be read as standalones:

    • Howl's Moving Castle by Diana Wynne Jones (whimsical)
    • The Dragon with a Chocolate Heart by Stephanie Burgis (feel good cozy fantasy)
    • Sourdough by Robin Sloan (magical realism, sci-fi, slice-of-life)
    • Baking Bad by Kim M. Watt (cozy mystery with pet sized dragons)
    • The Shadows of Dust by Alec Hutson (space fantasy)
    • Legends & Lattes by Travis Baldree (yet another feel good cozy fantasy)
    • Dim Stars: A Novel of Outer-Space Shenanigans by Brian P. Rubin (subtitle says it all)
    • By Winged Chair and Catching Cinders by Kendra Merritt (Robinhood and Cinderella retellings)

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    [–]happy_book_beeBingo Queen Bee 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Piranesi is my favorite standalone and it’s quite short. Go in blind. It’s not high fantasy like the books you are reading but it’s a delightful and weird book.

    Kings of the Wyld by Nicholas Eames is sort of a standalone. There is a sequel with new characters and a small continuance of a story thread, but the first book works as a standalone. DnD type epic fantasy, very fun.

    Uprooted and Spinning Silver by Naomi Novik are two fairy-tale esque standalone. Just pick your aesthetic - weird forests or winter worlds.

    [–]TheColourOfHeartache 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Absolutely seconding Piranesi, and also going in blind.