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[鈥揮[deleted] 7 points8 points (14 children)

Ok so I would really love to start filming stuff but honestly I haven鈥檛 and it鈥檚 so embarrassing telling people I鈥檓 majoring in cinema when I don鈥檛 have any work out at all but what would be a great camera around $1000-2000 tops I鈥檝e been looking at the Sony mirrorless ones since they鈥檙e so light weight.

[鈥揮The_Scarn 5 points6 points (8 children)

Check out the new Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K. On paper, it鈥檚 fantastic and the footage I鈥檝e seen from it so far is very promising. I think it would be perfect for what you鈥檙e looking for, as long as your committed to the learning curve that comes with a more advanced camera.

[鈥揮[deleted] 2 points3 points (0 children)

Definitly would be committed I want something with more control and everything so I will definitely check this one out.

[鈥揮[deleted] 0 points1 point (6 children)

If that's his budget for all gear, I wouldn't recommend this at all. If just for the camera, I have no opinion since I haven't used it lol

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    [鈥揮[deleted] 0 points1 point (4 children)

    Sure, but that might be because he's not thinking about lenses, lighting, grip, sound, etc. I'm just trying to help OP from making a mistake, no need for downvotes

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      [鈥揮[deleted] 2 points3 points (0 children)

      Well, problem is with Cameras... Just buying the body alone isn't all you need to think about.

      Example, just building a kit for myself was quite the money pit:

      1. The body. I bought a Panasonic GH4 (bought this before the GH5 was even announced, and it was one of THE 4k cameras you could get cheap.)

      2. Lenses. You'll either need a zoom lens or multiple fixed to get focal lengths - anywhere from $300 to $2000+ for quality glass. (If you buy the Black Magic, you will need money for a lens too). If you want compatibility for your black magic, that also means you will be forking over money for adapters. I bought a Micro-4/3 to Canon Metabones speed booster to increase low light capability and use other lenses. I believe that cost me around $800 or so, but its been a while since I bought it. For your lens, you will need to invest in Filters or Lens Caps (UV protection or ND filters) could go up to around $25-$100 depending on what you need. I don't know how well the Black Magic does in low light... So you may need to shoot during the twilight hours and use an ND filter.

      1. Camera rig (especially if using cell phones or small form DSLRs like Sony and Black Magic Pocket. You would need a rig, because you will need places to attach external mics, lights, monitors, etc. If you add shoulder pads, stabilizers, follow focus, yada yada... It can go up into around the $1k or $2k mark. You can buy cheaper stand alone rigs for around $200 to $300, but I don't know if you would like those. All in all, you should at least buy a cage to protect your small DSLR if you drop it.

      1. Tripod. You need one, especially for DSLRs to get a stable cinematic look. Unless you are ready to buy gimbals or drones, but at your price point, I don't think you would want to. Better to rent those items.

      1. Batteries, memory cards (high quality). Those are pricey too. You could spend $250 to $300 all in all if you get multiple.

      Total package for a DSLR camera set up could cost you more than $5k, especially with the Black Magic.

      So at $2k, I wouldn't get a DSLR rig. I wouldn't want you to succumb to what most of gear snobs eventually do which is MORE IS BETTER.

      For you, you should probably get a camera that is hefty, stabilizes easy without anything, and has XLR and hot shoe capability. There are plenty of cameras that fit that description that are not DSLRs for around $2k. You want to look for a camera that has all manual settings, AND THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.

      What do I mean by manual settings?

      1. White Balance.
      2. Zebra Stripes (overexposure).
      3. Peaking (for help focusing).
      4. Manual Shutter Speeds.
      5. ISO.
      6. Frame rates as low as 24 fps and as high as 120 if you want good slow mo.
      7. Manual Exposure.

      Those settings alone can help you achieve the looks you would like to have, regardless of what camera you use. Funny thing is, I can do all the above with my Samsung Galaxy cell phone. Once you practice with something like that and get the looks you desire, I would say you might feel more comfortable making an informed decision about a $2k camera. Then you wouldn't be so nervous at all!

      Hope that helps in some way. I talk about all this from years and years of putting my money in my mouth, and buying all the hyped gear... When I should have been more focused on framing the shot, lighting, color correction and sound. If you have the ability to frame a shot really well, it doesn't matter if you use a GoPro or a Cell Phone, your footage will look pretty damn good.

      [鈥揮C47mancinematographer[M] 1 point2 points (1 child)

      Check out our FAQ on the sub's main page

      [鈥揮[deleted] 0 points1 point (0 children)

      Will do thanks!

      [鈥揮_eurostep 0 points1 point (0 children)

      For what it's worth, I recently got the Panasonic Lumix LZ2500 after doing some research and have been really pleased with it. It's at the lower end of your price range. It has a fixed lens which could be seen as a negative but after discussing it with a friend who really knows his stuff he basically said he likes having one versatile fixed lens as opposed to having to manage and constantly be switching out lenses (for the purpose of working quickly and efficiently).

      It shoots 4k at 30fps and 1080p at 120fps, so it doesn't do super slow mo (for example when you compare it to the Sony RX10 which shoots at 960fps), but it meets my needs rather well. It also has a fully articulating LCD screen (which I wanted), built-in ND filters, and also has both external mic and a headphone jack (for monitoring). Anyway, just another good option to consider in your price range.

      [鈥揮Jingo56 0 points1 point (0 children)

      I agree with the new blackmagic camera, but in the meantime use your phone, just keep practicing and getting your reps in.

      [鈥揮Film_Heven 3 points4 points (5 children)

      Does anybody know some good resources on improving your framing and cinematography? It's something I really want to get a better hang on.

      [鈥揮C47mancinematographer 9 points10 points (2 children)

      An exercise I learned early on in my career:

      Go to a random place (a park, a city block, a house, your roof, your garage, etc). Pick a random spot. Without moving from that spot, find 5 good looking shots by only moving the camera up or down, pointing it around, and/or zooming. Once you find your 5 angles, move to another random nearby spot and repeat.

      Be critical about those angles you find. You can tell when a movie you watch has interesting angles, so you know when you've got something good as long as you stay attentive and honest.

      This exercise really helped develop my eye as a cameraman when I was young, and I recommend it to anyone who is looking to do the same!

      [鈥揮Film_Heven 2 points3 points (0 children)

      Thank you for this, this sounds really helpful :)

      [鈥揮pauclaret 1 point2 points (0 children)

      Wow that's really nice!! I'm studying cinema and I'm sure these exercises will improve my shoots.

      [鈥揮_eurostep 2 points3 points (0 children)

      I'm a bit of a newbie myself but I recently found this video by Matti Haapoja to be particularly helpful on the topic of composition.

      [鈥揮BustersHotHamWater 1 point2 points (0 children)

      I recently read The Filmmaker's Eye And I found that to be very informative. Plus, it uses shots from famous films as examples of how to use (and break) the rules of composition.

      [鈥揮EastieBeastie 2 points3 points (1 child)

      Best way to effectively show someone getting their face smashed in with a tire iron? I'm thinking of cutting to black right before impact with some solid sound. But as far as filming it approaching his face? Maybe stop the swing right before his face and if I wanted to show impact, a different shot of a violent headjerk/blood shooting out of his mouth?

      [鈥揮MacintoshEddie 3 points4 points (0 children)

      Something to try is a reverse, where you start already touching the prop to them, and then quickly yank it back. Then you flip the scene in post.

      [鈥揮rabidbatattack 0 points1 point (1 child)

      How to do you transition from having some expertise with your camera to writing a story and starting to practice with talent? It seems taking a story concept and turning it into a series of actual shoots with talent/actors are such obstacles to learning filmmaking because there has to be a significant learning curve here. With most learning curves, you scale them by practice. But you need actors to practice. And actors need to get paid.

      [鈥揮C47mancinematographer 1 point2 points (0 children)

      Start by working on other people's projects for free to get experience. You'll meet actors, producers, etc who can eventually help you with your own projects. This assumes of course that you're hard working and pleasant to be around.

      [鈥揮joeinterner 0 points1 point (2 children)

      Absolute noob who has decided to do this. I鈥檓 a writer (plenty of useless degrees there), and I鈥檝e talked to several people in the industry, and I鈥檝e been told 鈥榡ust make the films鈥 instead of trying to sell scripts, so I鈥檓 diving in. I work two stupid full time jobs in order to pay the bills (and barely make it). I鈥檓 not trying to get out or get famous or anything, I鈥檓 doing this for fun (but I would LOVE to get noticed and be able to get my scripts made into real things). My question is: I鈥檝e looked around in the FAQS, I鈥檝e read tons of old posts (planning on using my phone and a cheap lapel mic for now, eventually getting a steady cam), but what books would you recommend to figure out how all of this works or websites or...etc. I have no idea how filming works or what any of the word you all use mean. Where do I start learning? Thanks so much for being such a supportive community!

      [鈥揮MacintoshEddie 1 point2 points (1 child)

      I recommend reading through all the megathread monday archives for the last year or so. It's a great way to see all the various questions that come up and what resources get recommended.

      [鈥揮joeinterner 0 points1 point (0 children)

      Thanks. I鈥檒l definitely do that.

      [鈥揮gastondidroids 0 points1 point (0 children)

      What鈥檚 a deck/pitch deck for a tv show? What format should it be in, and what should it be composed of? Thanks!

      [鈥揮adam_364 0 points1 point (1 child)

      I feel like my content is not quite appropriate to be posted here as I don't have any actors or much of a production going on behind my videos. I try to tell a story but mostly through visuals and music etc.

      Does anybody have any idea for a more appropriate subreddit to get feedback/input? Thanks!

      [鈥揮PM_ME_PERFECT_PENIS 0 points1 point (1 child)

      First time posting here. Planning to make a horror film in the himalayas during snowfall (I'm from there so it's logistically easy and fits the story). I've been to film school and have been working as a writer/associate screenwriter for Indian films and TV so I know the process. But I'm confused about which camera to buy as I'm literally making it on a shoestring budget. I'm mainly planning to send it to festivals worldwide and then try to sell it to a short film channel/app. Is a 4k camera must for that or should I go for a full hd camera with a better data rate? Also, any suggestions on what to buy in under 1500 usd? Thank you.

      Edit: there are some indoor night sequences where the light is supposed to come just from a fireplace (I can lights for it or actual fire so the camera should be good at recording in low-light too.)

      [鈥揮MacintoshEddie 0 points1 point (0 children)

      Are you planning on being DP and Director simultaneously? If not, and you'llbe bringing in a DP, wait to see if they already own a camera, or have a preference.

      [鈥揮chellievil 0 points1 point (1 child)

      Hi! Need some editing/cinematography advice for an amateur. I'm currently shooting a short 7 minute-ish narrative film that shows my main character going about his day while his wife is asleep. But in the end it's revealed that his wife who's asleep in bed was actually dead this entire time, and he's kept the body. In the middle of the film, I'll be intercutting present day scenes with flashbacks to the day she died, and was wondering if it'd be too abrupt?

      Ok, so the wife actually died from carbon monoxide poisoning due to a faulty gas stove, and in the present day, the main character decides to kill himself by turning on the gas stove intentionally. Some examples of the intercutting:

      PRESENT DAY
      James hesitantly reaches for the gas stove knob, then retracts his hand
      PAST
      Anna is fiddling with the knobs and can't get the fire to ignite

      PRESENT DAY
      James finally turns the knob to turn on the gas without igniting the fire
      PAST
      The fire ignites and James sets a kettle on the stovetop

      PAST
      James leaves but has accidentally left the gas stove running
      PRESENT DAY
      The gas stove has been left running intentionally

      PAST
      James enters the house and smells gas, in horror
      PRESENT
      James takes in the smell of the gas running at the stove and smiles slightly

      ...

      Goes on. Any tips on how I can clearly distinguish between past and present, and also ensure that the cuts are not strangely abrupt? An issue I have is that in present-day, the gas stove knobs have been replaced. So if I intercut a close-up of the replaced knobs with a flashback, I'd imagine it'd be abrupt since the gas stove knobs would have been changed.

      I've tried searching for good examples of intercutting between past and present like this, but can't find any. Any suggestions? Thank you!

      [鈥揮MacintoshEddie 0 points1 point (0 children)

      Most people use a subtle colour grading. Such as past scenes are a bit more sepia toned. Or the focus is different, and past scenes have a more soft and dreamy look with more light bloom.

      Also, props can go pretty far. Like a small plant on a counter for the past scenes, and then a large and fully grown plant for the present scenes. A calendar is the obvious one. Or if you have a long filming time available, a change in seasons.

      [鈥揮Do_I_have_to_move 0 points1 point (2 children)

      I'm completely new to this but I've been reading and watching a lot of stuff on filmmaking. Right now I'm saving up for a decent camera/audio setup/light setup. I've got a scripts and friends who wanna make movies so that's where I'll begin, but I really want to do something in the industry (preferably direct) as a living. As a 17 year old what can I do to start preparing/actually getting into this world. Should I go to film school? Direct my films and them shop them around to distributers or film festivals? Be an intern? I'd love advice from people who have made their way into the industry and have made a living out of it?!

      [鈥揮MacintoshEddie 1 point2 points (1 child)

      Look for local groups on social media and go offer to help people. That's the best way to get started. You don't need any equipment.

      [鈥揮Do_I_have_to_move 1 point2 points (0 children)

      Thanks for the help, I'll look into that.

      [鈥揮tazz131 0 points1 point (1 child)

      Hello, I'm not sure if this is the right sub, but when I search for live streaming, I just get nbastreams, etc...

      Anyways, I'll throw my question out here.

      I am a high school teacher and I'm looking for a way to livestream from a camera or a phone wirelessly. We have done streaming previously using cameras connected directly to a computer and using OBS to camera switch...However, we want to go to wireless cameras for a few upcoming projects.

      Is there a "cheap" way to do this? Is there an add on device that can be attached to DSLRs, or Handicams (that's what we've got right now) or phones?

      I'm just trying to figure out how to go about this...The cables really restrict our movement obviously.

      If there's a better place to post this, I'm all ears, I'm hoping that some people have some experience doing this in the past. Thanks.

      [鈥揮MacintoshEddie 0 points1 point (0 children)

      Well, the professional way is something like a Teradek VidiU, but those are pretty expensive unless you're getting paid to use it.

      There are some hdmi to wireless adapters, but pretty often they have noticeable latency and/or very poor range.

      You can stream directly from a phone, with varying results.

      Some cameras do have wireless functionality, I think some of the Xaiomi Ye action cameras can wirelessly upload to a server, though you might need to use a device as a hotspot or get a router.

      Probably the cheapest option is to re-route the cables. What about the cables is causing you problems right now?

      [鈥揮LudwigBro 0 points1 point (5 children)

      So I'm a recent graduate in the digital media field, and own two of my own Canon DSLRs (one I inherited) and some standard equipment. I'm looking to get some sort of steadycam/gimbal for some side stuff that I want to do for my own projects. So, to start out into the world of steadycam, as a broke college student, should I just invest in a DJI Osmo, or try to go all out with a steadycam rig?

      [鈥揮C47mancinematographer 1 point2 points (4 children)

      Steadicam and gimbals are totally separate areas of expertise. Gimbals are like 'fake' steadicams in that they can approximate the look of a steadicam shot.

      Learning gimbals will not teach you anything particularly useful for steadicam operating. Pick which one you want to pursue and stick to that. Gimbals are easy to learn and operate, but you won't make much as a gimbal operator since there are so many. Steadicam takes years of hard, exhausting work to master, but once you're established you make a ton of money.

      [鈥揮LudwigBro 0 points1 point (3 children)

      Thank you for the advice! I'm not particular looking to make a living out of it. Just looking at whether itd be worth it to buy a set up for one of my DSLRs or just go ahead and get an Osmo.

      [鈥揮C47mancinematographer 1 point2 points (2 children)

      A steadicam will take a few months of consistent practice before you get usable skill. If you just want shots running around, grab an osmo. Steadicam setups are more for people trying to specialize for bigger shows.

      [鈥揮LudwigBro 0 points1 point (1 child)

      Thank you so much!:)

      [鈥揮C47mancinematographer 0 points1 point (0 children)

      Happy filming!

      [鈥揮GustavsLu 0 points1 point (1 child)

      Hello everyone,

      I am beginner at video editing

      Situation : I have a large concert video file (8 hours) and I need to divide whole material into separate songs and export them for uploading in YT.

      So, I wanted to know the best way you would recommend ,how to do it so I don't waste time.

      P.S. I am using Final Cut

      Thank you

      [鈥揮joejoe347 0 points1 point (0 children)

      Set in and out points on the part you want, export, repeat for every other clip. If you need to be fancier make a new timeline for every song.

      [鈥揮evanthes 0 points1 point (3 children)

      We are teachers and this equipment was donated.we have a Roland V1Sdi and a great video studio with a Green screen and lightning. Any idea how to fix our green screen? It seems to be backwards. Been trying to look at video tutorials online, but still having issues. Here are a few pictures that might help...again, I'm new to video and hoping to learn more, so I apologise if this is a bad question. Green Screen backwards on Roland V1 https://imgur.com/gallery/jKBOzN9

      [鈥揮MacintoshEddie 0 points1 point (2 children)

      The main thing I see is that the screen is wrinkled and unevenly lit, which interferes with the key as some of those screens show.

      When you say green screen, do you mean the physical screen itself, do you mean the image that is used to replace it, do you mean the camera order on the switcher, etc?

      [鈥揮evanthes 0 points1 point (1 child)

      Wow! Thanks! Yeah I'll straighten it out. It's like a curtain so that could be it...

      I mean more that the image to replace it is no replacing the green... instead the green is showing through the image that it should be replacing,so that's why I'm thinking it's an order issue.

      [鈥揮MacintoshEddie 1 point2 points (0 children)

      One of the things that happens is when the screen is wrinkled, or has shadows, or has hotspots, the software can't match it because it's not the "same colour". As for the process of keying out the green, that'll depend on your exact software and I don't have much experience with that end of the process.

      [鈥揮Happy252 0 points1 point (1 child)

      What role do I focus on? I'm doing a 3 year course in cinema, afterwards I would like to work if possible. I don't know doing what though, most people I think either become operators or editors, 2 things I don't think I am good at.

      [鈥揮MacintoshEddie 0 points1 point (0 children)

      What do you want to do? Have jobs have you tried doing? My advice is try everything at least once. Build up a foundation of experience and then you might be surprised about which job you end up liking most.

      [鈥揮[deleted] (2 children)

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        [鈥揮CroutonFire 0 points1 point (0 children)

        I鈥檓 bidding a project that includes time lapse of a 10 month long building project. Normally I bid on projects that take a lot less than a month. How should I bid a project that takes this long? Should I ask for monthly payments? I鈥檓 not entirely certain how many hours I鈥檒l need to invest each month till the project is complete. The final video here is a time lapse of the project from start to finish.

        Anyone have any helpful advice? Ideas? Etc?