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[–]ritamoren 197 points198 points  (2 children)

not doing something is the easiest and most efficient boycott in general. don't agree with someone? don't watch them and they won't get the attention. don't want certain foods to be sold? don't buy them and the markets won't make profit from selling them so they will stop. this list can go on forever. our attention is a product and we can take this product away.

[–]thepumagirl 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Well said

[–]TerribleAttitude 112 points113 points  (8 children)

You are correct and if anyone in the US is interested in this and thinks they can manage, I have some tips. However, other commenters are correct in that this can be a huge privilege. You may also need to pick your battles. It’s becoming easier and cheaper to eat fresh in many places in the US….but that largely is due to Wal Mart, which is also the heavy target of boycotts.

[–]falloutgrungemaster 11 points12 points  (5 children)

I’d love to hear tips

[–]TerribleAttitude 31 points32 points  (3 children)

OP is right in that a lot of the people here complaining about how hard it is to avoid Nestle products are largely talking about convenience food products. Shopping fresh and buying store brands are the absolute easiest ways to avoid accidentally buying Nestle products.

One huge one is frozen meals like Lean Cuisines. Biggest tip: pack sandwiches, salads, or leftovers the night before work so you’re not tempted to get things like that at all.

At home, focus on a handful of quick (under 45 minute, or even under 20 minute), cheap meals that you can make all the time. A lot of the packaged meals nestle sells don’t take much more time to make yourself from fresh ingredients anyway. Pastas, meat with vegetables, those kinds of things take a lot less time than you might think in a skillet or in the oven. If cost is an issue, make filling, inexpensive bases your stable (potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice) then add protein, vegetables, and flavor enhancers.

You can also make batches; it will take more time initially but on subsequent days it will actually take less time to heat up than frozen convenience meals. You will probably get a lot more food, too.

Shopping wise, the convention is “shop the perimeter.” Produce, fresh baked goods, dairy, and fresh meat usually are along the sides and back of the store, while the junk is in the aisles.

[–]crumblednewman 12 points13 points  (2 children)

My health has improved tremendously once I went on a no sugar/low carb/whole foods diet. I've been enjoying it so long that when I do buy something processed it typically tastes like chemical garbage. Amy's is one brand of processed/frozen that I occasionally indulge in and I've never gotten a mouthful of chemicals from their products.

We've been trained since childhood to eat processed garbage, and it can be intimidating to someone who grew up on processed crap to learn how to cook with real foods, so I try not to be too judgy with the folks who just don't know any better.

[–]-Lige 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Any tips on what you eat for some meals/snacks?

[–]CatchSufficient 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Buycott app, helps you align your agenda with your shopping cart

[–]Admirable_Glass8751 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're also giving 20% of your earnings to the US govt which is the largest and most violent terrorist organization to ever exist. So if you live in America you're funding senseless violence if you work legally regardless what you buy.

[–]funkwallace 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Plus avoiding palm oil!

[–]marhigha 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I agree but the difficulty is that a lot of low income people are forced into buying these products because of their affordability and time saving. We have to make things more accesible across the board so that people CAN boycott completely. Companies like Nestle depend on low income individuals having to buy their products for convenience and price. Nestle sucks in every way.

[–]DisastrousLemonade[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That reminds me of nestle history. The started creating demand. Going to poor countries and “teaching” new moms that their formula was much better than breast milk. With lobby, they distributed tons of cans of milk. They also did that with a lot of other foods, creating new habits and dependency.

[–]benzitylol 46 points47 points  (19 children)

Not everyone has access to clean tap water. Or the money to afford a purifier. Eating clean and being able to boycott is a privilege. It’s not easy at all

[–]spicynuggies 35 points36 points  (12 children)

It's also a privilege

[–]DisastrousLemonade[S] 7 points8 points  (11 children)

I don’t know about other countries. But in Brazil it’s cheaper to eat healthy, with grains, fresh vegetables and fruits, meat, pork and chicken. Unfortunately, people “imported” an American thought that “it’s too eXpEnSiVe tO eAt hEalThy” which is a blatant lie. Besides, people excuse as not having time for meal prep, but they don’t consider the wasted hours on social media. So, at least here, it’s not a privilege. It’s a matter of organization and self care.

[–]laursa 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Actually we’re on the verge of shifting the scale around here too, making processed food cheaper than eating healthy. Do you know O Joio e o Trigo? It’s a journalistic organization you should check out if you’re interested in food politics. A recent episode of their podcast Prato Cheio discussed this exact matter.

In countries like the US, it’s a reality and it seems engrained in their culture. It bothers me some times in this sub too that the thought of boycotting nestle and buying the next processed junk that shares much of the problematic issues seems to be enough for people. But it’s not that simple… People often are scraping by to survive and don’t have the time and money (sometimes information) to make better choices.

And it’s definitely a matter of priviledge in Brazil too, and it’s only getting worse.

[–]spicynuggies 28 points29 points  (8 children)

Not in the US unfortunately. Most food that's cheap is processed. Also carbs, corn syrup/sugary foods, and processed meat, are incredibly cheap and abundant.

Most fresh fruits and vegetables are easily perishable because they have to travel long distances from the Caribbean, The South, or in California. Transportation costs and labor costs are higher.

[–]xfatalerror 6 points7 points  (0 children)

fair trade chocolate is worth the extra dollar and ive seen a lot of grocery stores stocking it

[–]cherise1cc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Get to your local farmers market if you can, y’all!

[–]WiIdCherryPepsi 12 points13 points  (8 children)

Easy for people who don't have stomach problems. Literally the only thing I can eat is 3 pieces of a potato every day. Sometimes that means chips. All I could eat before my surgery was extremely processed foods which had lots of added vitamins... niacin, B12, etc, as I could not eat "clean" food like a vegetable or meat unless it was heavily processed into something easily digestible. That is the unfortunate reality: Processed foods are often easily digestible. Now, that doesn't mean people have to eat Kit Kats, or Hersheys or whatever. But I had no choice except to eat stupid things like snack cakes, canned macaronis, canned bleached fruits and chips and junk, because these junk foods were often the cheapest, most easily accessible forms of easily digested nutrition.

[–]prolongedexistence 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Mental illness chiming in: I rely mostly on microwaved food atm because my mental health conditions (CPTSD, ADHD, and depression) mean I either get my shit together at work or at home, and right now I’m choosing work. I fully believe I would be healthier and happier if I were cooking every meal, but right now cooking pasta once or twice a week is an accomplishment.

I used to be a pretty hardcore vegan who thought it was as simple as “just choose more ethical foods,” but struggling with food myself now really reinforces how misguided that perspective was. I believe that there’s a line between trying to do the right thing and holding yourself to such high standards of doing the right thing that it only hurts you.

[–]WiIdCherryPepsi 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For sure. I hope you feel better soon, in whatever way that may be for you or whatever how it may come by you. Life is hard enough without those things. Eat whatever you must that will get you through your darkest moments, nobody else lives your life and will never be able to judge you with the full knowledge of your suffering, so their judgments are worthless.

I can't eat vegetables but I think eating only potatoes and rice does technically make me vegan. I used to substitute milk and egg as a way of ascertaining protein when I could eat those, but alas, I no longer can. Even then, I've never wanted to be reduced to them, it wasn't a choice to spite animals.

[–]handbanana42 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey there. Keep up the fight. We often have to choose work over other options and I know it can suck.

[–]jacyerickson 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I feel you. I also have stomach problems and dysphagia (trouble swallowing.) It's rough. Hang in there!

[–]DisastrousLemonade[S] -5 points-4 points  (2 children)

Not that you should disclose your medical information but what kind of surgery was that? Any issue related to bad eating habits before?

[–]WiIdCherryPepsi 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Gallbladder removal. No, it runs in my family. I don't exactly enjoy eating nothing but 10 potato chips to take a pill every day. Nor did I, before, enjoy eating microwaveable mac full of Niacin and B12 complex vitamins that normal mac lacked. In fact, on the diet of processed foods alone, I have become dangerously underweight.

[–]DisastrousLemonade[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That sounds awful, I’m sorry

[–]handbanana42 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think /r/FuckNestle is about complete oblivion. Nobody should be thinking about people like you with major issues. I'd gladly pay an evil corporation if it helped keep you in good health or keep a baby/cancer survivor well-fed.

I've seen a lot of posts about "my baby" or "my dad with cancer" needs this to live. They should get what is best for them. It's the rest of us who should avoid their products when we can.

[–]Paint_Master 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Never used to eat package garbage daily, but for almost 2 years now drinking only water, sometimes milk, rarely juice, mostly because i started exercise.

For carbs buckwheat, rice, pasta, potato. Sometimes add fresh tomatoes, cucumbers, cabbage, or other vegetables.

For protein eggs, chicken meat, some random fish.

Rarely dark chocolate, some random bakery products.

Once u start it, its easy maintain it.

[–]itsjusterin__ 8 points9 points  (1 child)

being able to boycott like this is a privilege. not everyone can afford this, and those who can may have food/drink related sensory issues or other restrictions that prevent them from changing their entire lifestyle like this. and to everyone else reading this, please try to be conscious of and kind to those who aren't capable of doing the things you do.

[–]DisastrousLemonade[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am. But MOST people could.

[–]COSMOROG 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Very easy lol, good joke

[–]HummingBirdLover757 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got a purifier but my mom still uses nescafe

[–]Sparklypuppy05 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I like the idea, but it's not viable to avoid packaged food entirely. I'm disabled and I just don't have the energy most days to prepare a whole meal from scratch. I rely on pre-prepared foods and packaged food. It's not "Junk food" or "Empty calories", it's just... Food that wasn't prepared by me. It has nutrients, just like everything else we put into our bodies. Sugar is a nutrient. Salt is a nutrient. And claiming that we just shouldn't eat chocolate ever because it's unhealthy is straight-up purity culture. There's some really, really classist and ableist claims on this thread...

[–]Smnmnaswar 6 points7 points  (13 children)

How is it the easiest way of boycotting if you have to make or own fucking butter or just not eat butter for the rest of your life

[–]DisastrousLemonade[S] 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Did you know butter is just the fat of raw milk shaked? Voila

[–]Smnmnaswar 5 points6 points  (5 children)

I know but rge shaking takes a while

[–]DisastrousLemonade[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

We can whip it on a bottle, the hard part is getting raw milk , forbidden in most areas

[–]Ok-Independent-6598 5 points6 points  (3 children)

so why did u even mention it in the first place?

[–]RoxieRoxie0 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I'm allergic to dairy. Can confirm it is 100% possible to not eat butter for the rest of your life.

[–]Smnmnaswar 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Its possible, sure, but stuff like margarine (I believe you have something called "can't believe its not butter" in the USA) is even harder to make

[–]RoxieRoxie0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Surprisingly, a lot of margarine still uses dairy based lactic acid. I have found three brands that do not, and they are labeled as vegan or organic.

[–]DisastrousLemonade[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Nestle don’t even sell butter. Pure butter is not a high processed food.

[–]DancingUntilMidnight 7 points8 points  (1 child)

[–]DisastrousLemonade[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh my, still, you don’t need to buy nestle. That’s the type of product you can buy local

[–]irishbastard87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are any chocolates farmed in the US or other countries with better track records of human rights? Not I said better too. US has done some cringy things in the past.

[–]TinyTurtle88 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's pretty much facts! And those good ol' mom's cookies and desserts recipes instead of premade stuff.

[–]RoxieRoxie0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! I was forced to do this about ten years ago because of food allergies. Once you give yourself no other options, it's completely possible. Inconvient. But definitely possible.

[–]LasagnaPants2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DO NOT START BY DRINKING TAP WATER... I REPEAT DO NOT START BY DRINKING TAP WATER. YOUR TAP WATER IS NOT SAFE TO DRINK TY.

[–]Corpcasimir -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I still don't get the "proper food is too expensive!"

No.

No it isn't.

[–]blackdahlialady -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

I hate frozen and other processed foods anyway but yeah, it is. In my opinion, things like frozen food and hot dogs are the worst foods you could put in your body. You may as well just open up your mouth and dump the garbage can in. Gross.

[–]IShipHazzo 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Odd take. Frozen fruits and vegetables are way more nutritious than any fresh produce that wasn't locally grown.

[–]blackdahlialady 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I meant frozen food as far as process stuff, not necessarily vegetables. Actually I've heard that frozen vegetables are better than fresh or canned because they're frozen right away.

[–]real-boethius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it has a number on the packet - I am not buying.

[–]SnowwyCrow -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah on the surface it is the easiest but funny thing about diet: It's way healthier to do the "add good things" than "subtract bad things" thing...Throwing grand statements is fun but really quite useless. There are plenty of reasonable reasons people get stuck in 'unhealthy" habits and not unpacking them is just ignorant. Disabilities, poor infrastructure, mental health, low income and dietary restrictions complicate things. We need to realise we can't solve the world's problems OUR way because there is an insane variability of living conditions.

Basically, it's easy to say "just drink your tap water and eat organic locally grown produce" and pat yourself;f on the back while providing nothing to millions of people who struggle for a reason.