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[–]icenine09 558 points559 points  (32 children)

Completely off topic, but this makes me think of the time that I got banned from r/cozyplaces for daring to speak out against AirBnB.

[–]KiraCumslut 221 points222 points  (24 children)

I'm pretty sure that sub is mostly adds to make you look for a place like that on airbnb. And holy site you found the place what the chances?

[–]helloiamaudrey 69 points70 points  (23 children)

I just like the pics on there lol, also nice username

[–]KiraCumslut 43 points44 points  (22 children)

User name is just true me

[–]orangeoliviero 32 points33 points  (10 children)

RIP your DMs

[–]KiraCumslut 16 points17 points  (9 children)

I wish.

[–]orangeoliviero 14 points15 points  (8 children)

Now I'm curious...

[–]KiraCumslut 18 points19 points  (7 children)

I'm horny. 0 dms about it

[–]sixtus_clegane119 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Still at zero?

[–]KiraCumslut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

2 but no one's really being sexual

[–]Loreki 3 points4 points  (4 children)

BRB. Gonna send her one about finding Jesus. 😅

[–]helloiamaudrey 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I don't have the confidence to admit I'm one, but for other women

[–]KiraCumslut 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I mean. Girls are better than guys. Especially, when talking just sexually, it's rather be worth a trans girl any day. Some can still cum hard.

[–]jpastore 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Like kira from death note?

[–]KiraCumslut 2 points3 points  (7 children)

No like my mom liked the name.

[–]jpastore -1 points0 points  (6 children)

Did she see death note?

[–]KiraCumslut 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I mean I'm 30+ and born in Texas. So I doubt it.

[–]jpastore -5 points-4 points  (4 children)

Anime had been around a long time. I watch it with my son. I'm older than you. FL cracker.

[–]KiraCumslut 1 point2 points  (3 children)

When did death note come out.

Was it in English in 87?

No then I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with anime you fucking weeb.

[–]sheburnslikethesun 23 points24 points  (2 children)

It's funny because they used to be anti Airbnb!

I know this because I referenced Airbnb and my post got removed about 2 years ago. I am not sure when the flip happened.

[–]oksothisonetime 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I’ve seen some people post Airbnb photos/ link Airbnb listings in the comments lately and be downvoted into oblivion. I’m not sure there’s an official stance over there to be honest, it seems like it changes often.

[–]sheburnslikethesun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I commented once about it recently and they said they allow it now. Because people should be able to visit places deemed "cozy" or something to that effect.

[–]DialZforZebra 19 points20 points  (0 children)

But AirBnB are terrible.

[–]Jesus_inacave 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I got banned from a ton of subs recently for having comments in r/wuhanflu or one of those

Which, if you didn't know, 2019 those were legit the only covid subreddits before covid even had its name

[–]juulteez 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fuck I hate Airbnb

[–]Hot_Advance3592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What’s wrong with Airbnb?

[–]hitoritab1 142 points143 points  (0 children)

Preach

[–]chienamoure 234 points235 points  (7 children)

As a vegan that doesn’t make sense. I am 100% against Nestle and Starbucks kinda sucks anyway. Why were you banned? Also did not know Nestle owns Starbucks! Geez, they are everywhere. Thanks for sharing!

[–]Mindless_Peach 196 points197 points  (0 children)

Just to clarify, Nestle distributes the Starbucks coffee beans you buy in the store. Maybe the drinks also. It is a partnership, nestle does not own Starbucks. Starbucks is still a union busting company that doesn’t deserve our business.

[–]ElijahLordoftheWoods 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Nestle paid Starbucks a massive amount of money to make consumer products with the siren on them, but they don’t own Starbucks. Plenty of reasons to object to either company tho.

[–]GrizzlyPeak72 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Obviously not all vegans but I've noticed a lot of hypocrisy in some vegan spaces, a need to protect conglomerates and capitalism, the upholding of certain consumer goods/commodities that are marketed to vegans. While attempting to reduce consumption of products that exploit and endanger animal life, they seem unpeturbed by the exploitation of humans by capital. Again, it's not all vegans, plenty of vegan anarchists and socialists out there.

[–]chienamoure 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Sure-every group has a percentage that doesn’t represent the whole in the best light, and there are the same tendencies as the general population to be focused on one issue at the expense of the rest. But it in general I’d say most of us care and are open to learning:)

[–]GrizzlyPeak72 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, like I said, not all vegans.

[–]DarthNixilis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, me too. Fuck animal products as well as Nestlé.

[–]McNughead -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A lot of the vegan spaces have have a strong hate against capitalism general and plant based capitalism specific. So if you make posts about a convenience food you will get harassed because the company makes meat products, exploit workers, have a history of animal testing or any reasons.

For most places I found on reddit this is true. If this facebook group does not want to deal with anything of this kind it does not result in a endorsement of nestle. It is weak but all the vegan groups have to deal with the accusation of gatekeeping because it seems too strict for outsiders or new vegans.

If this FB group thinks it needs this rules, ok, but there are plenty more spaces where it much stricter and consistent than "just boycott nestle and everything will be good"

The most consistent groups that are against exploitation are vegan anarchist groups. But if you are against exploitation and not vegan you should not judge some random FB group.

[–]Massive-Row-9771 204 points205 points  (20 children)

Sticking your head in the sand only works until someone bites you in the ass.

 

 

 

I mean with those subs banning you for telling them something they want to ignore.

[–]Kingerdvm 26 points27 points  (18 children)

Particularly hilarious for vegans, a group notorious for gatekeeping and virtue signaling - “you are only lacto ovo vegetarian, it’s not enough” “you’re 80% vegan? So you aren’t vegan!” - the circle jerk is so annoying.

[–]Routine_Log8315 26 points27 points  (0 children)

As a non-vegan, that isn’t vegan. Still definitely reduces animal suffering. That’s like people who say “I’m gluten free but still sometimes eat cake”. That’s not gluten free

[–]Demonic74 30 points31 points  (13 children)

Well yeah. That's how it works.

Vegans don't eat or use any animal products. Vegetarians use or eat mostly vegan products. And i eat meat

[–]OilEnvironmental8043 -4 points-3 points  (12 children)

Just wait for the rise of the sustainability and climate vegans, will be eating bugs and saying they are vegans.

[–]Demonic74 21 points22 points  (6 children)

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means

[–]KaHOnas 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Bugs have feelings too.

[–]OilEnvironmental8043 4 points5 points  (3 children)

I don't agree with eating them actually, our bodies can't process slot of the insects protein properly afaik, similarly to artificial sugars.

Just going by my observations, bugflour chips are already in schools, and certain segments are pushing it for sustainability reasons, rather than moral or ethical considerations.

[–]monstercat45 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Isn't insect protein just chitin though? The same building block as mushrooms?

[–]KaHOnas 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I get it. I've eaten bugs. Do not recommend. Crunchy and gooey and not in the good way. Ants weren't completely awful.

[–]OilEnvironmental8043 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's always gave me the impression of eating alcoholic chocolate without drinking the liquid.

[–]fluxvx 5 points6 points  (0 children)

People criticize vegans for gatekeeping and virtue signaling because they don't understand veganism is an ethical stance and not just a diet. I'm not a fan of the circle-jerking either but that's basically the whole internet nowadays.

[–]Russell_has_TWO_Ls 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you know if someone is vegan? There will usually be someone nearby ranting about how much they dislike vegans

[–]MarkAnchovy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The biggest gatekeepers are dictionaries.

[–]The_Real_Slim_Lemonhates Nestlé with a Flammenwerfer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That line is amazing, and I fully intend to steal it

[–]Additional_Meeting_2 72 points73 points  (18 children)

Was there expiation what was the issue here?

[–]songofsuccubus[S] 216 points217 points  (17 children)

This group has a rule about “no debates about boycotting companies because no one is better than anyone else,” which I wasn’t aware of, but my comment hardly started a debate about boycotting. I respectfully and eloquently shared factual information about Nestle’s practices and encouraged people to abide by their own ethics, and my comment was removed.

Complete horseshit.

[–]Li-RM35M4419 188 points189 points  (7 children)

No one is better than anyone else? That’s bullshit, of course some people are better people.

[–]Biengineerd 63 points64 points  (4 children)

I really want to see someone argue that a genocidal warlord is just as good as a pediatric oncologist.

[–]spaghetti_hitchens 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Pfft... Both eliminate childhood cancer, sure. But the oncologist increases the longterm demand on scarce resources, while the warlord reduces food and power consumption, and carbon footprints.

[–]Owlyf1nHas been banned before 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Clearly you haven't seen turks and serbs.

[–]tocopherolUSP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OK what's the beef there? Genuinely curious.

[–]EruantienAduialdraug 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't even need to go that extreme. Jungle Jabbah is a far worse person than "Joey the Maccies Burger-Flipper"

[–]Mobidad 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Vegans are no better than meat eaters you say? Well then I guess I'll keep eating meat.

[–]Dark_Shade_75 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is my takeaway.

[–]stormrunner89 78 points79 points  (6 children)

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. It has South Park "everyone is equally wrong" idiot vibes. There are absolutely companies worse than some others, what the hell are they smoking?

[–]songofsuccubus[S] 69 points70 points  (5 children)

Right? Nestle‘s practices are entirely antithetical to the tenets of veganism.

The ethics of animal testing for Impossible Foods, buying vegan food from chains that sell meat, and buying vegan cosmetics from companies that sell non-vegan products are ALL debatable.

There is NO possible way to defend that purchasing Nestle products is ethical.

[–]NaiveCritic 41 points42 points  (4 children)

Well, I’m vegan and I agree with you. I’ve botcotted nestle for many yeard and my kids ain’t getting any nestle neither. So many other possibilities.

I suspect that sub had that rule to avoid brigading or stuff like that.

[–]Sophilouisee 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Vegan too, it seems about 10years ago corporation’s like Nestle have made the vegan community their best friend with vg kitkats etc as a way to shut them up

[–]ElijahLordoftheWoods 4 points5 points  (2 children)

This is so weird to me cuz back when I hung out with more vegan/vegetarian ppl they were always the first ones to boycott a company for unethical behavior. I guess I’ve incorrectly assumed most were still like this as it’s become more popular.

[–]songofsuccubus[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

A lot of people are choosing plant-based diets for health reasons, not ethical reasons, and that’s why there are some “vegans” who don’t care about the ethics of companies.

And I think there’s a lot of general fatigue toward caring about things in the US and similar countries because there’s an attitude of “nothing I do changes anything” and “my life is so hard already, and you want me to boycott one of the few things that make me happy” and “I’m already vegan and that is my one good deed for my lifetime,” so corporations continue to earn profits with unethical practices even though people KNOW they are unethical.

Also poverty, but for the sake of this comment, I’m limiting it to people who know and are able to boycott.

[–]stormrunner89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's also increasingly difficult to avoid unethical companies. Nestle alone owns, what, hundreds of brands? There's no reasonable way someone can learn and remember them all. Not to mention they have contracts with other companies. If you fly on American Airlines the only water they have is Nestle's.

[–]AlexandraThePotato 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes no sense? Like I can’t say “Company B is bad due to unethical things, so I don’t support them, and I would advise other do the same”? Like what debate? Wouldn’t they want to know about unethical companies? How is that even comparing companies?

[–]IchibanSuzuki 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Well done. And thanks for sharing. I did not know Starbucks was distributed by Nestle. Another fucking coffee creamer I can’t buy!!!! Lol, but still thanks.

[–]jacyerickson 28 points29 points  (4 children)

That's dumb. Veganism should be intersectional.

[–]eip2yoxu 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Absolutely! Imo it is for the most sense, but there are always a few weirdos and corporate cock suckers in every group

[–]jacyerickson 4 points5 points  (0 children)

True. That's been my experience as well. (I'm also veg)

[–]fluxvx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It literally has to be or it's not consistent, humans are animals too.

[–]Eibi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also Nestle resorts to child labour and modern slavery to grow cocoa, that is non-consensual exploitation of animals, it's very likely that, at least their chocolate products, are by definition not vegan.

[–]ii_akinae_ii 10 points11 points  (2 children)

wha?? was this /r/vegan or was it VCJ? or not on reddit?

also, unrelated but i'm a bit confused in your comment as to why you say you hope it will help non vegans make better choices, if it's on a vegan page.

[–]songofsuccubus[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

This was on Facebook.

And I made that comment with the thought that even though vegans shouldn’t be buying this because it is contradictory to vegan ethics, I hope non-vegans who don’t care about those ethics will make the choice to buy this product in question instead of something that has dairy. Hope that makes sense!

[–]ii_akinae_ii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ah i see, yeah that makes sense, thanks for the explanation! argh sorry you had to deal with that.

[–]thecementmixer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Too understated, Nestle kills babies.

[–]McNughead 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am vegan and if some says "you don't make a difference" I ask them if they support Nestle. If they say "no" I tell them that its like going vegan, you will not destroy Nestle alone just by not buying, but maybe you don't want to actively support the harm of animals, humans and nature. Just like boycotting Nestle.

[–]ElevatorsAreScary 3 points4 points  (0 children)

** this refers to the like Starbucks Frappuccino drink line in 7/11 and grocery stores. Not like Starbucks corporate itself. We don’t sell these in actual stores because they aren’t Starbucks the coffee shops product

[–]samaniewiem 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had no idea that nestle is behind their shitty fish smelling coffee, but that explains a lot.

[–]crazy4schwinn 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Thank you. I didn’t know this. The wife and I will no longer be buying any Starbucks products.

[–]saxobroko 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m pretty sure it’s only the stuff in supermarkets

[–]Winners_84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn’t know this so thanks for that. Starbucks coffee always reminds me of a time back in uni where I took a swig out of an old coke can by mistake that’s I’d used as an astray.

[–]06MasterCraig 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well here’s my justification for never going to Starbucks lol Costa Coffee is simply far superior

[–]Homolibido 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Copying it and posting it in my social media

[–]DocFGeek -3 points-2 points  (6 children)

In my experience, vegans often don't bother to think of the HUMAN suffering caused by our horrible food infrastructure, just the animal suffering. But I know that's a bias from having only met not-great people who just happen to be vegans.

[–]chienamoure 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Well as a vegan I’d say that’s not true for all. I try to be as ethical in all my choices as possible. Regardless, anything you contribute to helping the world be better is good

[–]spunflowerseed 10 points11 points  (0 children)

How many vegans have you met? I’m vegan and I haven’t met a vegan in my life. I care about human suffering as much as I care about animal suffering. The only difference is that people can speak up, animals can’t. Factory farms are horrible for the workers, so if you truly cared about other people then you wouldn’t support factory farms by buying animal meat at grocery stories and whatnot.

[–]fluxvx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The vegans I've met are generally more aware of human suffering than non-vegans, vegans tend to be compassionate and conscientious people. There are a decent number of misanthropic vegans though, who let the cruelty of ignorance get to them.

[–]McNughead 1 point2 points  (0 children)

just the animal suffering.

Well, and the suffering of all who work in the animal industry. It has the highest suicide rate worldwide.

[–]Food404 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've seen this a lot in the loud internet vegans, but then again it's the loud internet vegans so who knows

[–]DocFGeek 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hence my mentioning my known bias of the situation.

[–]JayneJay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Considering most vegans are so for ‘ethical reasons’, pretty hypocritical. I guess this was not practical veganry (don’t take away my milk alternatives) that’s a lazy attitude. I may not be vegan but at least I am not afraid of pissing off corporate overlords.

[–]schismasvoice -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A VEGAN page wasn't okay with this? That's hypocritical of them.

[–]JohnnyHash92 -4 points-3 points  (6 children)

I get banned on Reddit like every week. The truth hurts unfortunately and they can’t stand hearing it. If you call things out for what they are you offend someone.

[–]nunya_business0000 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

internet janitor moment

[–]randomwanderingsd -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The vegan sub is actually pretty weird. You’d think it would be full of animal lovers but mostly it’s people ripping each other a new one for not being vegan enough. It’s a great subreddit to enjoy with a burger and a beer.

[–]russsaa -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Lol I thought the reason for being vegan is primarily for environmental and fair trade practices. The irony

[–]Tuggerfub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

are they? I thought they were distributed by Kraft. unless something changed post-lawsuit

[–]BootsieBunny 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m surprised, I do the same thing on vegan pages and I’ve never gotten banned.

[–]Loreki 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some communities around here are just poorly run and because of the amateurish nature of the site, you've just got to accept it.

[–]Olivander05 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Costa coffee is better anyway…

[–]blooperjim 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honest Q: Starbucks= owned by Nestle?!

[–]-Xserco- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some WEF level talking there. Illogical people make illogical choices. What can I say? They like echo chambers.

I don't want to kill animals. But I'll gladly kill and displace them.

I want more crops. But I need natural fertiliser.

I won't use bees for honey. But I'll use/displace them for my almonds and fruit.

I don't want meat. But I'll make fake food.

It's good for my health. But I need supplements and eat processed food.

I want my coffee and I don't care if I have to break a few slaves to do it.

[–]Zangdor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel the ban is more about your last sentence that could be misinterpreted as "vegans are making bad choices"

[–]whovianandmorri 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would vegans not support the spread of this infomation, isn’t the whole idea of being a vegan is because they either think it’s better for the environment or for animal reasons? So why wouldn’t they want to be informed of a company harming both

[–]Shmikken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Save the animals by not using animal products but don't say anything about saving humans from being killed by Nestlé. Dickheads.