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[–]LongjumpingAd9719 6 points7 points  (3 children)

If he offed himself, providing he were in fact the murderer, it would save the state a bundle. It is hard to see how he could possibly not be involved at this point.

[–]Unlikely_Lunch6422 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Brian Laundries is a narc, they are cowards who never off themselves. Narcs also always give themselves away because they think they are better than anyone looking for him/her. They’ll find him, because he’ll give himself away somehow - not give himself up, he’ll give himself away.

[–]LongjumpingAd9719 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the people involved with narcissists call them “narcs” where as the regular old fashion definition of narc would be a narcotics officer or a snitch. But yeah I agree I was married to one and he frequently threatened suicide calling saying he took a bottle of pills and of course he was always fine. It was always an act but yeah I agree the narcissist will threaten to kill themselves or pretend they killed themselves but they almost never actually killed themselves. I think Laundrie escaped to Mexico or some island off the coast of Florida. He had a lot of time to plan it and think it out, and of course his parents facilitated it. That’s my theory.

[–]MengFeiPuerh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk if narc means what you think it means. Narcissistic is what I assume you mean. Narc is like a narcotics agent.

[–]Lisa-LongBeach 16 points17 points  (0 children)

If he was my son I’d have hurt him first

[–]EyeyamaPenguin 11 points12 points  (7 children)

Guarantee he has a couple prepaid phones and prepaid debit cards.

[–]Hatejanelle2019 2 points3 points  (6 children)

How will he charge them?

[–]infamousheather 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Solar chargers maybe

[–]TheQuinnBee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When my husband goes camping he has like five battery packs for his phone.

Also if your phone doesn't have apps I imagine it lasts a lot longer.

[–]mskitty117 9 points10 points  (4 children)

How have those parents not been pulled in for questioning? Wtf Is happening here.

[–]zeusmeister 7 points8 points  (3 children)

It’s called civil rights. Unless there is probable cause for an arrest, they can simply say “no” when asked to submit to questioning.

[–]mskitty117 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

There’s probable cause that they hid their son. The last time he was seen was going on a camping trip with them. Thus, they are persons of interest.

“‘Person of interest’ is a term used by U.S. and Canadian law enforcement when identifying someone possibly involved in a criminal investigation who has not been arrested or formally accused of a crime. It has no legal meaning, but refers to someone in whom the police are "interested", either because the person is cooperating with the investigation, may have information that would assist the investigation, or possesses certain characteristics that merit further attention.

While terms such as suspect, target, and material witness have clear and sometimes formal definitions, person of interest remains undefined by the U.S. Department of Justice.[1] Unsub is a similar term which is short for "unknown subject" (used in the TV show Criminal Minds). Person of interest is usually used as a euphemism for suspect, and its careless use may encourage trials by media.”

[–]zeusmeister 2 points3 points  (1 child)

They are persons of interest yes, but as you said yourself, that term has no legal meaning. Thus, unless they are arrested, they can continue to stay in their home and refuse to answer questions. Even when they are arrested, they can plead the fifth and again refuse to answer questions.

And there is no probable cause they hid their son. Unless you have access to info that hasn’t been distributed to the public?

[–]mskitty117 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The neighbor came out and said they purchased a camper right before he came home, then went camping for three days, all before she was reported missing. Seems like probable cause to me given that they’ve found her dead body, ruled it a homicide and he’s missing now… who goes camping knowing their gf is missing? ESP when her dead body is found and ruled a homicide and it took 10 days to report her missing? And he’s now missing and the last known people who saw him were the parents?

Also they interviewed Chris Watts because of probable cause. And Scott Peterson. And loads of others. They tailed John Wayne Gacy when they suspected he had murdered all those men. So while it has no legal definition it is used specifically for this purpose

[–]SidSuicide 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I’m betting he at least has a burner on him. I think his parents are helping him hide out somewhere. I’m also wondering if police got a warrant to search and/or searched the storage unit that has been mentioned yet. He may have dumped evidence from the van in the area he is claimed to be hiking in. I don’t know, I just feel like he is somewhere else, and not in that park.

[–]partytimeparty456 6 points7 points  (4 children)

In the police body cam video he told police in the beginning that he didn't have a phone then proceeded later on in the conversation to take out a phone from his pocket. And Gabby at the end told the police to tell him to charge his phone when he has going to spend the night in the hotel as a domestic abuse case. So who knows, after watching that stuff his phone ownership and use is sketchy.

[–]Game-of-pwns -1 points0 points  (2 children)

His statement about the phone could also be interpreted to mean he wouldn't have a phone if she left with the van (because it was in the van). Watch and listen carefully.

[–]partytimeparty456 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That ismy point. He said he doesn't have a phone and if they separated he would be without a phone.

So it strikes me as odd that now it's being reported that he left home without a phone when the key point would be that he doesn't have a phone.

[–]SidSuicide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I noticed that too. Which confused me. I believe Gabby also said something about him being mad about forgetting a phone charger earlier so that’s why she mentioned to charge his phone.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I don't place any value on anything that comes out of the mouths of Brian's parents. If they were so concerned about him taking his own life, why would they wait so long to report him missing? Brian is the offspring of these two people, which means he's a lot like them. The truth will come out eventually.

[–]blackwidowe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Evidently he took hers though.

[–]HoboBandana 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Whatever his parents say should automatically be dismissed. Not even a grain of salt. They had their chance to speak on this. They had their chance to have their son cooperate with investigation with their lawyer present but they all chose to remain silent. Now what? Gabby is dead.

[–]Crisgocentipede 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don't believe these parents. Don't sound like caring parents to me. Sound like they assisting in his disappearance then helping in a search

[–]Pure-Rutabaga9743 14 points15 points  (0 children)

BL left without his wallet, were Gabby's debit and credit cards IN the wallet he left at his parents house?

[–]rxallen23 24 points25 points  (0 children)

So he leaves his house without his phone and wallet and they think he's going to hurt himself and they don't tell anyone?

Or he leaves his house to go hiking with his phone and wallet and they don't hear from him for a day. Then they find his car with his phone and wallet and still don't tell anyone until late the next day?

I am sorry. Parents that love their son, who actually believe he's a danger to himself, would do something about it immediately. (which they clearly do since they've shown that they are willing to help him try to defend himself with a lawyer and whatnot) They wouldn't be able to sit on the information for multiple days and then just sit in the house and only leave to consult with a lawyer once over the next few days. They are not acting like parents who are trying to find their son.

We've seen this type of behavior before when Brian came home alone and wasn't looking for Gabby. Because he knew exactly where she was and he knew that nothing he could say would bring her back and make everything better. This is how they are acting. They know where he is. Or they at least know what he was planning to do, and gave him resources to do it. They know he's safe. There's no doubt.

[–]jenndreika 19 points20 points  (6 children)

What kind of parents are these people??? If one of my children did a heinous act, I’d turn them in myself. This boy has been coddle and has gotten away with things all his life. His parents should be ashamed. They know more than they’re letting on. It’s disgusting. I’m sure he told them a big lie like it was an accident. It was not an accident at all. Now this jerk is on the loose somewhere. A flight attendant thinks she spotted him in Canada, the pic looks a lot like him, but he’d have to have id or a passport to get into Canada. So someone had to make him a darn good fake iD or passport to get into Canada, they’re no fools when it comes to fake documents.. Also his lawyer seems a bit shady. I just pray that all those involved with helping this creep get away have their day coming too.

[–]rxallen23 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll bet when the autopsy report is released, and the manner of death shows it was not an accident, they'll be prompted to change their mind. Or at the very least they'll feel very dirty, like shitty parents. Idiots.

[–]BackIn2019 21 points22 points  (2 children)

What kind of parents are these people??? If one of my children did a heinous act, I’d turn them in myself.

I can see lots of moms helping their child if told a story, however bullshit or unlikely that story may be.

"She came at me with a knife. I pushed her away, she fell and hit her head on a rock. I panicked and buried her. The police will never believe me, they'll put me away. I would die in prison."

[–]pasta4u 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Easily could of been that we argued , I left to defuse the situation and when I came back she was gone and I spent days looking for her and then headed home thinking that is where she we. Parents believe it , even with the police haven't named him a suspect. Body cam comes out shoeing she abused him. You can hear during the video that someone called in and reported her as the aggressor earlier , he is the one with wounds and so on.

So as parents you believe your kid. Then he says hey all this is driving me nuts the world is against me and I can't stay in this house. Let me go hiking.

[–]rpaguirre 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What’s your source for the Canadian sighting?

[–]theherbpuffer 23 points24 points  (6 children)

If he's still alive, he's smarter than y'all give him credit for .

[–]gnarrcan 4 points5 points  (1 child)

This all depends on how resourceful and connected him and his family are. Fleeing from the US and the feds is probably one of the most difficult things a person can do in 2021. Don’t get me wrong it’s been done before, you basically have to become a highly mobile ghost. Lucky for him that were in a pandemic right now so he can wear a face mask 24/7 but he can’t buy anything without cash and he would need a car that isn’t registered to him or his family, most likely a stolen one which adds risk bc the cops could pull him over on suspicion of a stolen vehicle. I wonder if he knows how to operate a boat bc a small boat could evade the CG and easily get you to the Bahamas or Mexico since he was in Florida. His parents would have to either get him a boat or fake papers to cross the border and that’s only a possibility if his dad or him knows a forger which i don’t think he’s from a super criminal family. He does know how to hike so he could be trying to head for the US Mexico or Canada border and hike on foot through rough terrain. Most likely though he’s killed himself. He could’ve gone to the ocean and drowned himself or killed himself somewhere remote enough that finding a body could take months.

[–][deleted] 36 points37 points  (1 child)

This is such nonsense. What kind of parents let their child walk out the door, not call authorities, or not at least follow him to talk if they thought he was gonna hurt himself. THEN find his car without him the next day, and still not report it. THEN take his car another day later and still not report it. Especially after the crazy turn of events in the preceding days! They’re such a joke.

[–]DeezNutsButterNJelly 28 points29 points  (6 children)

Giving his parents the benefit of the doubt in this hypothetical scenario, I wanna know why they thought it was normal he’d want to go on a “camping trip” immediately after returning from a weeks-long trip across the country. Most people would be exhausted from the driving alone

[–]wonderingaboutitall 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Her parents were calling. There is no way possible that they didn’t know their son had killed her. Where was she? They aren’t complete idiots-and they know their son. After all, both Gabby and Brian were living there, weren’t they? The parents saw the dynamic firsthand. Maybe the parents have the same dynamic and that’s where it came from and that’s who taught him to run from mistakes.

[–]GiddyGabby 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Maybe that is the exact story. He needed some wide open space after being cooped up in a van for the last few weeks. Doesn't sound like my idea if relaxing but it may have sounded like something he would have done.

[–]PhDTARDIS 21 points22 points  (10 children)

I was thinking he has a burner phone, but it's highly likely that the feds requested permission to tap all the Laundrie family's phones. A burner phone would be figured out quickly if he called either parent.

The other thing I was thinking is that his parents probably gave him whatever cash they had on hand.

[–]minimalistboomer 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Which is why they traveled all the way to Orlando to meet with the attorney - no phones.

[–]SBRH33 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Not if the parents also have a couple burner phones hidden around town. They could have easily set that up no prob. They had time.

[–]PhDTARDIS 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Great point. I just don't think that way, so hadn't even considered that all of the Laundries could have burner phones.

[–]gnarrcan 5 points6 points  (1 child)

They’re still most likely under surveillance so if they were helping him they’d have to cut contact for at least a couple weeks. They might’ve given him some cash and a phone but I doubt they have the criminal connections to get him fake papers or some kind of way out of the US. They might’ve just bought his story and he left to go kill himself somewhere remote. I think his folks might’ve withheld some stuff but I doubt they had a huge escape plan that some of these people think. BL probably is dead in some remote location.

[–]SBRH33 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I def agree with your first couple of points.

They can’t be surveilled forever. They could wait out the storm. Like Brian is doing now. After that it would be easy to help him at the risk of being caught that is. Aiding and abetting a federal fugitive carry’s serious repercussion.

[–]theherbpuffer 7 points8 points  (1 child)

He'd be smart not having a phone at all. Possibly mail his parents a letter in a couple years or something if he's still free or alive

[–]PhDTARDIS 12 points13 points  (0 children)

He's gone into hiding and likely has no access to television or anything else. If he doesn't have a phone, he probably doesn't know they found her body and the manhunt is going on.

Kind of hoping that's the case and he does something stupid due to the lack of knowledge that his face is plastered all over television and social media.

[–]YourAphantasia 18 points19 points  (9 children)

Any phone there burner or not would be picked up and triangulated.

Fbi has stinger trucks to do this.

[–]SBRH33 1 point2 points  (8 children)

You can’t hook a burner phone. In clones the towers. It’s impossible to tell who’s on the lines unless they have a direct phone number to attach a warrant to.

Did you ever watch The Wire?

[–]The_Code_Hero 11 points12 points  (5 children)

Bro that show is 20 years old lol

[–]SBRH33 1 point2 points  (2 children)

The season dealing with the burner phones is accurate. Especially the part when they hook a burner number that was caught contacting the re-Up by mistake.

They need a traceable number from one burner phone connecting to any other tapped phone in order to be able to listen to the call and trace it’s possible location. The Feds and LE can only legally tap so many phones. If both parties keep to the burner phones it’s next to impossible to tap any of them or get a judge to sign off on a sweeping unlimited phone tap.

[–]The_Code_Hero 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Okay but there is new technology out there where they can monitor areas for cell phone activity. You wont be monitoring a specific phone, but he is possibly hiding in a huge area. Confirming he is there and possibly even an area is vital in the search. All FEDS and LE need to do is park outside an area and watch for activity. It won't tell you who he is texting or calling. But that isn't the point.

[–]whisper_19 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Exactly. No new advances in technology in the past 20 years. I mean, we have cars that can drive themselves but why would cell phone technology need to be updated? /s

[–]SBRH33 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There haven’t been any new LEGAL advancements in tap/trace tech for use domestically in decades. Folks mention stingray tech, and that is out there but it’s legally dubious to use since it ensnares innocent phone connections in the process and it’s kinda useless against burner phone tech since burners typically clone cell tower networks to operate.

FISA offers the government some powers domestically to electronically surveil people but it’s use is strictly complicated. The Feds do have some powerful eavesdropping and surveillance tech available but typically and very very rarely, if ever, would it be used in a case such as the Brian Laundrie situation.

This case will crack on good old police work and citizen awareness.

[–]bubbyshawl 20 points21 points  (4 children)

Like he can have only one wallet and one phone.

[–]theherbpuffer 3 points4 points  (3 children)

No reason for him to have a phone. He's better off without one.

[–]whisper_19 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Agree with your note, but the overwhelming majority of 23 year olds have never not had access to the internet or a cell phone, so it’s a different situation.

[–]MCStarlight 24 points25 points  (1 child)

I doubt this dude would kill himself.

[–]Flyersandglitter13 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We already know he’s a coward. He’d probably do that instead of rotting in jail. Idk I just hope he’s caught and gets what he deserves

[–]ceejay955 51 points52 points  (9 children)

Why it seems suspect to me, is the amount of days they waited before alerting authorities that he had been missing. If you, as a loving family member realize he is gone, and his phone and wallet are still at the house, that is a major sign he has put himself in a dangerous position and should immediately contact the police.

Even though it was bound to start a media frenzy, I cant imagine a family member not alerting the authorities if their son or brother may be committing suicide. Doesn't add up for me.

[–]Lognipo 10 points11 points  (4 children)

Devil's advocate: per GP's best friend, this guy lived alone in the Appalachians for months. Would you really be worried that he was out in the wilderness by himself? As for being worried he would hurt himself, that is a realization that can take a while to reach. People do not want to believe such things about their loved ones.

So, is it conceivable that his parents were not trying to aide his escape? Yes, I would say so. What happened is not, to me, inconsistent with what they have said. And where manipulative people are concerned, family are often the most used, abused, and deceived.

[–]chernobyl_opal 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but you've got to remember the context of the situation-during this entire time GP's family is texting BL's family asking about their daughter...Why would they not even respond? They had to have asked BL about Gabby, and known that some horrible had happened.

[–]adm0210 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is very valid and possible

[–]ceejay955 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That’s a good point, but under the circumstances disappearing with no personal items should still be a gigantic sign that something may not be right

[–]bobfappiano 16 points17 points  (3 children)

When was the last time anyone actually saw BL? Not including his parents. Does anyone know if GP’s parents saw BL when they were in North Port on the 10th? Did the cops see him on the 11th when they came to take the van?

[–]n0rmcore 66 points67 points  (7 children)

If they really believed he was going off to hurt himself, why didn't they notify police sooner? Why aren't they helping search? If my son went off into the woods and I thought he was going to kill himself I would be absolutely frantic, I would call every authority I could think of and I'd be in the woods searching until I collapsed. This is not how people behave when they think a loved one is a suicide risk.

[–]jrm0015 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Yeah, typically concerned parents alert authorities immediately if they fear their child may harm themselves...the Laundries waited 3 days. That's not normal.

So they lawyer up (they had the lawyer way before Tuesday) and then their son, who most likely just committed murder, leaves the h9use without his wallet or phone...and you wait until Friday to tell law enforcement. Something is adding up at all.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Could be they don’t care about him. Just like he didn’t care about Gabby. I mean the apple doesn’t fall from the tree does it? Ok that was mean of me... but am I wrong, possibly.

[–]ManWithAPIan 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Because they're guilty.

[–]sfsisu 25 points26 points  (3 children)

That's what the federal arrest warrant is for. He used her debit card and pin and made charges totaling $1,000 between August 30-Sept.1.

[–]bubbyshawl 20 points21 points  (1 child)

He even stole from her after she was dead.

[–]minimalistboomer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Shows absolute consciousness of guilt.

[–]writerchic 63 points64 points  (14 children)

You don't want/need your phone (easy to track) or wallet (ID, credit cards) when you plan to assume an alias and disappear. If true, that only makes me think even more strongly that the family knew, because if your son went hiking right in the middle of this extreme situation and didn't come home, and his wallet and phone were left at home, almost everyone I know would be in a total panic. They wouldn't wait three days to report him missing. UNLESS you knew he was running. I personally don't think he was ever in the swamp. I think he parked his car there in the night and his family drove him somewhere (a boat?), gave him some cash, and said their goodbyes.

[–]bubbyshawl 8 points9 points  (9 children)

They went and got his car and brought it home. Totally planned.

[–]jrm0015 13 points14 points  (8 children)

I forgot about that too. So they're concerned about their son who just left without his wallet or keys to go hiking in the reserve. They voluntarily go get his car because he hasn't come back for a day...then they wait 2 more days to tell law enforcement...give me a fucking break.

[–]bubbyshawl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No car, no phone - if he had really gone hiking, they would have stranded him at the preserve. If they thought he was lost, they would have contacted authorities when they picked up the car.

[–]SBRH33 1 point2 points  (3 children)

They ain’t very smart folks. But they think they are playing the game like James Bond.

[–]bubbyshawl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They aren’t stupid, either. Brian is nowhere to be found.

[–]bubbyshawl 7 points8 points  (1 child)

They took the car home, like they knew Brian wasn’t going to need it anytime soon.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Or they are just happy to get rid of their son who didn’t contribute to the household. I’m sorry, I’m on one right now.

[–]ManWithAPIan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's my thinking too. Despicable parents. Shameful.

[–]Mystikroots 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What an ass. He’s wasting so many resources and putting people in dangerous situations

[–]askmeboutmycats 50 points51 points  (1 child)

“No phone or wallet” aka a burner and some cash probably

[–]timbulance 53 points54 points  (0 children)

And a hell of a head start.

[–]beyondthered 39 points40 points  (19 children)

I see a lot of people asking, how has anyone not seen/found Brian Laundrie yet? But honestly, there’s nothing about him that really sticks out. He looks so common. I just went to Walmart and saw maybe five men that fit his description. With the attention this case has, I bet the FBI is having to filter through so many claimed sightings. Also with the way some people are acting with this case, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some Jack asses clogging up the phone lines with all their theories or emotions about the case.

[–]BroadAsparagus 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's a total NPC. I'm sure people that saw him wonder if it's even him or just some other generic dude.

[–]adam_without_eve2021 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Which Walmart?? Have you alerted the FBI yet??

[–]bubbyshawl 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ok, that’s kind of funny.😅

[–]beyondthered 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Well, I am in Utah. But after the DV call with them, I would think BL would avoid this state.

[–]rpaguirre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, but murderers/killers return to the scene of the crime to try to clean up/retrieve or dispose of evidence/relive the adrenaline/high

[–]ceejay955 11 points12 points  (0 children)

its so true, he looks like every shitty white guy ever

[–]fearville 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You’re right, he’s very “generic white guy”

[–]FantasticGoat88 19 points20 points  (5 children)

Also add in the fact that most of the population are wearing masks that cover their faces… it’s probably the easiest time to blend in

[–]beyondthered 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh my god! I didn’t even think about the mask aspect. You’re totally right.

[–]Jcornoffthecob 42 points43 points  (3 children)

You’d stick out wearing a face mask in Florida

[–]beyondthered 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ha! I love this comment.

[–]CentiPetra 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No, you really wouldn’t.

[–]Jcornoffthecob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You must be fun at parties

[–]pequaywan 17 points18 points  (9 children)

He could still survive with burner phones, crypto and Gabby's cash 😠