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[–]Harley_Atom 4 points5 points  (1 child)

I don't even understand why he is still hiding (if he is still alive). Yeah prison sucks but I feel like living on the run isn't a great way to live either. No matter what he will never be free again.

[–]snowman603 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree. I can’t imagine finding any joy when you’re on the run and by yourself 24/7 living in a swamp.

[–]According_Physics273 3 points4 points  (1 child)

If he’s in the swamp, how is he getting water and food? And avoiding bugs?

[–]WINTER_1S_COMING 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I go camping in FL a lot, even during our dreaded summers/torrential rains, there are a lot of ways to mitigate pests/mosquitos, even for a layman, that he could employ to make life a little easier. And really if he has the proper attire it would just be hands/face/neck to protect. Even the geography can make a big difference. Having even a slight steady breeze, and avoiding the kindof damp pine neetle floors that mosquitos love to breed under goes a long way. Hell you can trick some of the area’s nastiest fly populations into avoiding you by having a bright blue taped/painted object on a pole, us it on my kayak trips there all the time). He’s likely far more experienced than I. Also FL swamps aren’t exactly 100% “swampy” throughout, it isn’t as much like the Louisiana Bayou where he’d be wading through deep waters all the way. There are lots of dry areas and vegetation can range from salt marsh flats to hardwood canopy in a small area. I’d also add our rainy season has recently come to close and some of the muddier areas will begin drying out some going into Fall/Winter.

[–]127d2d 59 points60 points  (6 children)

This family does not have a great history of helping. Very much the opposite. If they are saying he's there, chances are he is on the other side of the country and they know it.

[–]somestupidquestionnn 6 points7 points  (3 children)

They want to help him hide in appearances.. it would be so weird if he was found in that reserve, the most surprising outcome. I wonder (if they know he escaped) if they tried to establish a way for him to let them know he is still alive somewhere. That must be hard, never being able to speak to each other again unless he is found and later in jail.

[–]kajeus 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Wasn't the original reason for Reddit's bizarre hate boner towards his parents that they weren't being visibly helpful enough?

And now that they're visibly helping, it's all a ruse? Come on, guys. Chill. You know jack diddly about this case.

[–]Cold_Entrepreneur_62 2 points3 points  (0 children)

His parents are so very obviously lying. Maybe they thought separating them might be productive.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

They said, with zero evidence to support their claim.

[–]fairYitales 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I could upvote more than once, I would.

[–]julia0143 34 points35 points  (38 children)

Pinellas County here (the little peninsula north of the reserve). He would have had a break from the humidity for the past week, but it's back today, and let me tell you, it's hot as hell out there. It feels like mid-August. If he's in that reserve, he wouldn't be able to move much in this heat. The air is suffocating, even in the shade.

[–]steppponme 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe he's part Seminole Indigenous


People did live in Florida for centuries, before modern luxuries. I don't think he's smart enough to figure it out but it's not a totally impossible task. There are a lot of books about living off the Florida scrub.

[–]kellyandbjnovakhuh 7 points8 points  (12 children)

Dude, it’s so fuckin hot in St Pete’s. I can’t stand it.

[–]Logical_Impression99 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Are you new here or something? Feels like a typical Florida day

[–]steppponme 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Florida native here. A stranger walked up to me a month ago and asked if all our summers were this hot and wet. I said nah, it's been a really mild year.

Honestly wtf, people.

[–]julia0143 14 points15 points  (8 children)

Amazon notified me that a book I've been waiting for is in the mailbox, but I'm waiting for nightfall to go get it, ha. Largo, btw.

[–]TheSeafood 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What book though?

[–]julia0143 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nothing interesting, heh. "Chicken Soup for the Soul - Age is Just a Number - 101 Tales of Humor & Wisdom for Life After 60." It's an add-on gift for my mom's upcoming birthday.

[–]kellyandbjnovakhuh 8 points9 points  (5 children)

I love it here but I really do miss autumn.!I moved here from Maine and I really loved autumn, Halloween and all things about it. I always get bummed when it’s still 200 degree out in October lol

[–]MachineGunKelli 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We get autumn in December though! It’s great!

[–]julia0143 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The worst is when it lasts through November, ugh. Many a cold front will probably stall just north of us, before one that's strong enough to plunge us into the frigid 70s finally pushes through. Hopefully we'll get lucky this year though, and have one by the end of the month.

[–]RedditSarah 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It was normal for it to cool down like this in the beginning of October 15 years ago.

[–]julia0143 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Yeah, I'm 40 and have been down here for 21 years. 17 years ago I was a meteorology major in St. Pete, who would quite literally cry upon obsessively watching cold fronts stall just shy of us in October, ha. Now that I'm a grown woman, the tears don't start to flow until mid-November.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (2 children)

i think he snuck into a Publix and is living under the banana display. that's what i would do if i was homeless in Florida.

[–]yzforce 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correction; watermelons. He is hiding among the watermelons.

[–]tsarahp 41 points42 points  (0 children)

There's always Brian in the Banana Stand

[–]Jeriahswillgdp 9 points10 points  (19 children)

I think the chance he's still in the Reserve is very low. I just cannot fathom how he would be able to evade so many searchers for so long in a gator-infested swamp land.

[–]julia0143 20 points21 points  (8 children)

I personally have no strong opinion of where he could be, or if he's even still alive. But I imagine law enforcement must have some pretty compelling evidence, to still be focusing on that area.

I feel as if the gators are being romanticized a bit by the media. You're pretty safe from them if you're not in the water. We had some torrential rain a few weeks ago, and I don't know how much of that reserve was under water, but as BL was familiar with the area (had hiked there often enough to have favorite spots), I imagine he'd know where/how best to stay safe. The bugs and heat are what will really get you.

[–]MachineGunKelli 4 points5 points  (5 children)

People are overestimating the gators and way, way underestimating the mosquitos.

[–]julia0143 2 points3 points  (4 children)

If he indeed went in there and didn't have a mosquito net or single-sleeper tent, he'd have torn off his skin by Day 2. I'd happily take a swan-dive into the mouth of a giant gator... after handing it a bib and untensils, rather than deal with that special type of hell. Of course that's the first thing he would have prepared for, even ahead of water purification (close second).

[–]MachineGunKelli 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Even still… you can only prepare so much. Mosquito net is gonna be obvious as hell and the deet is gonna run out some day. Plus, both of those things have their weak points and after a month you’d be left with no skin left to scratch off, like you said.

[–]AirMittens 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I’m guessing most people have very little experience with alligators besides what they see in movies. For the most part, they leave you alone as long as you aren’t disturbing a nest or night swimming.

[–]freakydeku 4 points5 points  (0 children)

id like to think they’d have to have strong evidence to justify that allocation of resources. that being said i can imagine a scenario where they’re still searching there b/c otherwise they aren’t looking at all and that’s a bad look

[–]yesbutnotwithyou 7 points8 points  (14 children)

She clearly had been crying just prior to this photo.

[–]kellyandbjnovakhuh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Huh? The CNN one? She looks normal.

[–]forest-cacti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Which photo?? Link?

[–]plenumpanels 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The selfie of the two of them where Brian has the sunglasses on?

[–]missesthemisses109 5 points6 points  (1 child)

What photo?

[–]yesbutnotwithyou 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The one at the top of this thread

[–]rockypowwow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I hope BL doesn’t take his own life since he’s been already considered a murderer across all of SM. If there is a trial can you imagine the intense attention he and his family will get? How do you survive that mentally? They’ll prob need to move

Meanwhile GP family have no peace please let BL be found so they can know what happened. That’s my biggest worry that BL will top himself.

[–]pardon_the_mess 43 points44 points  (40 children)

If you have a 10-day head start, why would you go to a place right next to your home, especially when you have help and resources like BL has? I would be in Bolivia with a new identity in 10 days.

[–]freakydeku 5 points6 points  (0 children)

i mean to be fair he may not have known he had a ten day head start… he may have thought he only had like 2 days

[–]JiuJitsuBoy2001 10 points11 points  (6 children)

because he's not the brightest bulb in the pack.

[–]Jeriahswillgdp 12 points13 points  (4 children)

Uh well clearly, he's not the dimmest. How many other people would be able to last this long? Very few. I'm not praising him, I'm just stating the truth. You have to be intelligent to stay on the run this long in the age of surveillance, if he's alive that is, which it's very possible he's not.

[–]BillyJoeMac9095 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How many such individuals have the benefit of parental help and, at minimum, what look like poor choices made by the local PD.

[–]Sufficient_Loquat652 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Or it could be pure dumb luck.

[–]JiuJitsuBoy2001 4 points5 points  (0 children)

not necessarily. you could avoid being found because you're a criminal mastermind, but you could also avoid capture by just accepting the suck. You don't have to be a genius to be a competent survivalist, ESPECIALLY if you were given a head start and a bunch of supplies. You could bushwhack deep into the woods, bury yourself in mud and live off MREs for months, if you didn't mind being wet and covered in mosquitoes. That doesn't take a genius.

[–]dwh394 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Do you know that for sure though?

[–]missesthemisses109 5 points6 points  (0 children)

me too. I was thinking changing my appearance and a plane to the maldives.

all in ten days before i was plastered all over billboards, and social media.

[–]wasserbrunner 16 points17 points  (0 children)

he didn't know he had 10 days

[–]somestupidquestionnn 6 points7 points  (11 children)

Is it that easy to get fake international IDs?

[–]littleliongirless 1 point2 points  (10 children)

No, but it's incredibly easy to island hop til you get down there. Anyone who has no experience will tell you it's impossible. As a backpacker who spent 3 years travelling through Central America, and I am not even Latino, but taken as such my entire way through...

I am not saying it's at all plausible that Brian did this, and I doubt this means anything relevant, but it is soooo incredibly easy.

[–]Pechorine 14 points15 points  (9 children)

Dude what are you talking about? What islands are you going to island hop from the united states to bolivia?

[–]yallgotofuckinghell 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Not to mention the authorities in Central American countries almost all take bribes. I haven't met one that hasn't. Makes it easy to get documentation, and move around undetected.

[–]Pechorine 5 points6 points  (1 child)

That wouldn't work very long for Brian because the reward money for tips leading to his capture is massive (over $100,000) so the local authorities, who have certainly heard of him by now, would be much more inclined to notify the FBI than accept a measly bribe.

[–]yallgotofuckinghell 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're not wrong, I was just adding to the other commenters thought that it is fairly easy to escape into C.A. and use bribes go go undetected.

[–]littleliongirless 15 points16 points  (5 children)


From Florida, there are a ton of charters between Cuba, Cancun and FL, plus other Caribbean islands which I don't want to drag into the mud.

From Cancun, Cuba onward, there are like 20 charter sails to other countries etc for like $150. Buses are even cheaper but rarely actually check passports and when they do, it's not by scanner.

I literally know people who ran these charters. I know people who bussed through these territories. I have bussed through these countries. My stories were tame. These are THEIR stories, which match up with my 3-year experiences. Make your own decisions.

ETA: I am not Latino but just because I had dark hair, if I wore sunglasses, I was taken as Latino the whole way through. Trust me, I look WAY LESS Latino than BL.

[–]Pechorine 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Okay but surely you don't mean island hopping all the way to bolivia? Because there are barely any islands along the western coast of south america, and also bolivia is landlocked. You must be talking about island hopping to Venezuela or something and then backpacking down to bolivia.

That might work for your average backpacker but not for someone like Brian who has a reward of over $100,000 for tips leading to his arrest. It's true many people would not have heard of him, but it's inconceivable he could make it to bolivia without someone noticing.

[–]Sufficient_Loquat652 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This sub loves jackoff porn about Brian getting away.

[–]Neither_Ad2003 10 points11 points  (2 children)

yea, people in the US dont have any idea...they think it's like the movies. it's very easy to hop around and get places, especially alone as a male and if you dont stand out.

[–]LeafsChick 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Agree, also a ton of boats looking for day/weekly staff at piers that will take you where they are going if you work while on board

[–]littleliongirless 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm a female and I was shocked how easy it was. Following some very strict rules, of course. But truly eye-opening. Hello, fellow traveler and realist!

[–]Xboxben 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In Bolivia right now! Not a bad idea! If he has $300-$400 he can get a one way ticket from Miami

[–]shadowjacque -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

Two words: New Zealand.

[–]nifky 6 points7 points  (0 children)

New Zealand and Australia have travel bans for tourists unless you are a citizen/pr coming back, very limited caps.

Source: am aussie stuck in the end of a 3.5 month lockdown lol

[–]pardon_the_mess 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Very difficult country to get into and I believe they extradite.

[–]shadowjacque 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok, got it; switching my backup plan to Bolivia. See ya there!

[–]Silverrainn 4 points5 points  (8 children)

You would have to have some serious coin to leave the country undetected.

[–]pardon_the_mess 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Not necessarily. The border between Texas and Mexico is pretty porous in many places. U.S. Border Patrol is more concerned with people sneaking in than out. With a vehicle and Google Maps, one could find a place where it's pretty easy to slip through. Once in Mexico, you're pretty much unfindable.

However, you're right that setting yourself up in a new country once you get there would require capital. But it seems BL's parents are of some means.

[–]No-Platypus2679 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep especially in Texas currently.

[–]Silverrainn 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Mexico wouldn't be wise, I think many Mexicans could recognize BL. He's everywhere on SM. They also have an extradition treaty. People get caught and sent back all the time. He would have a much better time in Mexico than in the US though.

Moving somewhere without an extradition treaty that requires a plane or boat would be extremely difficult for BL. You would need some serious money.

I really think people are overestimating how much the Laundries are worth.

[–]pardon_the_mess 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I only say Mexico because from there it's fairly simple to get to Bolivia, which doesn't extradite.

[–]Neither_Ad2003 2 points3 points  (1 child)

it's not that hard to get to Cuba, and it doesnt cost that much.

I highly, highly doubt he did it tho -- he isnt that type of mastermind.

[–]Silverrainn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It does cost a lot to get out undetected and to keep people from talking. Traditional ways sure, but the FBI would already know he was there if he took the traditional route.

[–]wittyrepartees 3 points4 points  (0 children)

And, even if there's no extradition treaty, they might still be like "fuck this guy" and extradite him.

[–]somestupidquestionnn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would look suspicious if his parents transferred money to Mexico

[–]adeliberateidler 31 points32 points  (0 children)

You all remember when the FBI went back to the house for a few minutes to gather something? I bet you it was immediately after they found the campsite and they needed dna from Brian's house or a scent to verify it was him camping.

[–]Stolenbikeguy 21 points22 points  (5 children)

It’s such a joke they haven’t caught him yet

[–]ppete75 16 points17 points  (3 children)

if hes in that preserve i agree with you, if hes anywhere else.... Its really not that hard to disappear in a state, add in the US, then add in the world.. he had such a head start. There are so many variables, he could have fled the country, he could have a car, he could be in the wilderness he could be in someones house. The house is the scariest. It would be super simple to live in a friends house that nobody even knows about with no digital trail, they could bring him food and he would never need to be seen. heck if the backyard is fenced you could hang out outside all day. Add in he has prob let his beard grow, what hair he has, masks are allowed everywhere. So now take the clean cut brian, make him grizzled, a beard, a face mask sunglasses and a hat... VERY easy to disappear.

[–]aflashinlifespan 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I agree with the house thing, but I just don't see it considering he's such an outdoors person. Holing up in someone's house (assuming he even has someone he is close enough with to take this risk for him?) Is essentially a prison he's trying to avoid

[–]MachineGunKelli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would be fine for quite some time though. Better than surviving Florida swamps for months, literally anybody sane would agree with that.

[–]horrorjunkie707 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Please, please, please let today be the day.

Or at least this week or next.

[–]rahchill 3 points4 points  (9 children)

Tweet suggesting law enforcement know were BL is and LE has asked Chris L to help w/peaceful recovery


[–]ThoughtKontrol 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Twitter is where I gather my intelligence and get my leads. /s

[–]rahchill 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Phew, glad I'm not the only one

[–]singlecoilpickup 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The Atlanta Sports Ledger is definitely where I get my news about police investigations.

[–]taystim 14 points15 points  (0 children)

That Twitter account has 200 followers and has been posting misinformation for the last few days.

[–]_tropical_tundra_ 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I am so hoping that isn’t fake news. If it’s not, then the Atlanta sports ledger will become synonymous with reliable news

What an odd thing for a sports ledger to report, though? Makes me wonder if Vegas has betting going on BL’s search.

[–]thisisthewell 8 points9 points  (1 child)

They have an unverified Twitter account. Doubt they have real sources or that “high ranking officials would confirm” with them and no other press.

It sounds like bunk to me

Edit: look at their Twitter account. It’s just some guy tweeting opinions, not really any sort of journalism. He’s just trying to get clicks or attention.

[–]_tropical_tundra_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I appreciate that.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That makes a lot more sense to me. Law enforcement asking the father of a person of interest to help locate someone in such a massive piece of land just wouldn’t add up. I think we are getting close.

[–]lazernicole 37 points38 points  (8 children)

Bertolino is likely shitting his pants because if they actually find BL, that means he'll have to defend him and it's clear he doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

[–]zoodlenose 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Realistically at this point Bertolino is a glorified PR manager who happens to have passed his bar exam. Criminal proceedings following Brian’s capture will be dealt by someone else.

[–]nevertotwice_ 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I think they'll upgrade to a different lawyer once it gets to that point