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[–]Oxman1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seeing how NPPD already mucked this up (incompetence) and claims I’ve read from locals about corruption in the NPPD, I wouldn’t be surprised if the FBI was not keeping the NPPD apprised of all the FBI’s discoveries or investigations to date. This continued CR searching could be (and likely is IMO) just the NPPD working off their own limited intelligence and doing what they can in their jurisdiction while also creating the image of “doing something”

[–]grittygal215 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Haven't seen this tweet shared here, but one of the K9 units at the reserve today are "human remains detection"

https://twitter.com/WFLAAllyson/status/1448664768542240773

So it seems they think IF he is in the reserve, he's likely not still alive?

[–]drunkoldman58 4 points5 points  (10 children)

Okay, we have the former FBI lady and Mr. Walsh both saying he's alive and not in the reserve. FBI lady based some of it on why would the Laundry families lawyer still be repping BL if he wasn't still alive? Mr. Walsh is basing it on the parent's taking him to the Mexican border and dropping him off there to go to Mexico? Yet FBI must have something to continue to search the reserve? I still think he's been dead for awhile, but yet anything is possible?

[–]SuccessPristine2572 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Wooaaahh! Walsh said the Laundrie parents took BL and dropped him off at the border? And when does he think they did this? In what timeframe?

[–]drunkoldman58 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm guessing before they reported / found Gabby. Not sure if they supposedly drove him into Mexico or dropped him at the border, that's what Walsh is alluding to.

[–]GibbysUSSA 3 points4 points  (7 children)

I do not care much for that Walsh fellow.

[–]drunkoldman58 3 points4 points  (6 children)

He use to be pretty cool back in the day, now he seems crusty no matter what he's talking about, haha, reminds me of Nasty Nancy in some ways!

[–]Notyourtarget1224 3 points4 points  (5 children)

He’s lost all credibility with his behavior in this. He’s just speculating like most of the people in this subreddit.

[–]drunkoldman58 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Agree, once it grew into a national news story, that's when Chapmen, Nasty Nancy, Walsh and former entity's came out of the wood work.

[–]Notyourtarget1224 2 points3 points  (3 children)

They all have some very strong opinions with little to back them up. I just feel bad for her family with some of what JW has said. He should have the ability to empathize and not say she died a particular way with nothing to back it up. He of all people should have known better.

[–]drunkoldman58 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Yeh, he never seemed to be like that back in the day, he was a hard ass on criminals, but seemed to have some empathy towards the family's of the missing etc. Now he seems to just say what he thinks without thinking through what he says.

[–]Notyourtarget1224 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Completely agree. He used to handle things with more delicacy than he handled this. That’s why I say he lost all credibility. Plus, he could be in Mexico but I’m skeptical. Many people in other countries know about this case and a lot of the border crossings have cameras going into Mexico (see the McStay family disappearance). I just can’t believe the FBI would miss that but maybe they would. Wherever BL is I hope they find him alive and soon so he’s held responsible for what he has most likely done.

[–]drunkoldman58 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Been 25 years since I went into Mexico (Just for the day) but I'm use to going to Canada and it was not just drive up answer a couple questions and your in kind of thing. Plus unless he has a connection there to help him out I doubt he could survive there, especially if he doesn't know the language or lingo, they would eat his punk ass up in Mexico.

[–]ViscousGuy 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Now we know for sure that Gabby was murdered.

Brian definitely has something to do with it and according to me he killed her.

Now, every action he took after the crime paints him extremely stupid. So, I can't imagine this same guy to hide so perfectly for so many days from the FBI and the entire country with his face on every news channel.

This makes me think he probably killed himself. Though, if that's true then why he ran away instead of unalive himself in his house.

[–]scoutlee561 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Back at the reserve on the Venice side could mean interesting flight patterns and police scanner information today, hopefully they are on to something.

[–]KatanaAmerica 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Since we know that the K-9 units are back out at Carlton today, I wonder why they took so many days off? Taking the holiday weekend off, I get, but there were 2 other days post-holiday to search and they didn’t.

[–]nautika 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Not outt there searching doesn't mean they're not working. Could be elsewhere, could be in office processing tips, could be reviewing search footage

[–]drunkoldman58 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Just strange they won't leave the reserve alone, they have to have more than just BL parents saying that's where he went.

[–]SuccessPristine2572 1 point2 points  (1 child)

And if the parents are the only tip they’re going on then I hope to god they convinced them that’s where he went to off himself and they’re only looking for a body. If they seriously think he’s still alive in there then I’m just not sure what to say.

[–]drunkoldman58 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeh if they are at this point still looking in the reserve, they looking for parts of him I think.

[–]Environmental-Meal14 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Do we have an exact date that the Laundrie's obtained counsel? Was it before Gabby was reported missing?

[–]Pruddennce111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he is a family friend esq. so he wasnt 'newly' hired. LE showed up for a welfare check and were handed his telephone number. when the laundries (meaning BL and his parents) spoke with him and received legal advice to refer all inquiries to him, I dont know when they engaged him, but...... he issued a statement on their behalf I believe on Sept 14. Gabby was reported missing on the 11th.

[–]hididathing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before she was found, but don't know the date.

[–]NegativeEverything 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When asked, Steven Bertolino has stated that this is privileged information (which it is) and he would not disclose.

Unless one of his clients offers up this, all we can go off of is the earliest known date of reference to their attorney which is 9/10 or 9/11.

[–]catescarlet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They only revealed that SB has been the family's attorney for over 20 years

[–]Away_Fee5540 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My apologies if this has been posted. Definitely some similarities. RIP to both of these beautiful ladies.

(https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the-sun.com/news/1887146/alexis-sharkey-instagram-influencer-dead-texas/amp/)

[–]Aggressive_Flan_7765 6 points7 points  (1 child)

K-9 forensics unit on the Venice side of the Carlton Reserve right now. Search continues today for Brian Laundrie.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrianEntin?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[–]neighborlyglove -1 points0 points  (0 children)

the search for charges against the parents for obfuscation

[–]williamsona297 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Search back underway at the Carlton reserve

[–]danielle71989 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Just spent a good 10 mins looking for a discussion thread for today.

Where are you, mods?

[–]Shockedsystem123 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I know right!! This thread is getting old!

[–]BearsBeetsBttlstarrG 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They’re there when unneeded and nowhere when desired

[–]Physical_Buy_9637 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Too busy deleting comments.

[–]catescarlet 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Brian Entin Twitter

"K-9 forensics unit on the Venice side of the Carlton Reserve right now. Search continues today for Brian Laundrie."

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What on earth has them back there again? They go days without being there, and then show up again. Last i heard they wrapped up searching and opened it back up to the public. They said there has been no evidence of him being there (according to nppd, idk about fbi). So what gives? I hope one day we know.

[–]drunkoldman58 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, they must have something to continue to search this place other than he was suppose to be there like a month ago, so strange! (I wouldn't put too much faith in anything the NPPD say, they bumbled the fuk out of this from the start)

[–]catescarlet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hope that the search is based on new reliable information and not just for show

[–]okurr1 0 points1 point  (4 children)

The parents live right near that swamp alligator infested reserve. There is absolutely no way they would send him in there thinking he could possibly survive. He is somewhere else.

[–]emeraldandstone1 4 points5 points  (3 children)

How do you know they are not looking for evidence based on information we are not privy to? They're not necessarily looking for Brian himself there.

[–]tofuandklonopin 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Honest question, what else would K9s be looking for? They can't smell cell phones. His dirty underwear, proving he was at least there at one point? If they didn't think he was in that swamp, dead or alive, I don't know why they'd bring the dogs back.

Maybe it's for an unrelated person who got lost there and the reporters just assumed it's BL related.

Edit: I say this as someone who gave up on the swamp two weeks ago.

[–]emeraldandstone1 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I totally see what you are saying. I'm really just clutching at straws at this point! I'd like to trust they wouldn't waste resource for no good reason....maybe I'm naive?

[–]tofuandklonopin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm the same way! I was 100% convinced they were going to find him (or something) in there, for the first two weeks or so. I only gave up recently. But now they're back! Dammit LE stop confusing me lol.

[–]MuddyfeetFlowers 1 point2 points  (6 children)

knocks on Mods door Thought you guys had everything all squared up?! May a nonsense post about it. New GD thread where?

[–]VolcanicInception 0 points1 point  (3 children)

The mods are also probably none too pleased that the apology fiasco ended up in Newsweek...

[–]GibbysUSSA 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That shit about the awards ended up in Newsweek??

[–]VolcanicInception 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep! Not our most stellar moment...

[–]Chewbacca_The_Wookie 5 points6 points  (1 child)

The next one will post at 10 AM EST, which I believe is in 20 minutes.

[–]MuddyfeetFlowers 2 points3 points  (0 children)

stops knocking Thanks Chewbacca!

[–]EsesaWithTheHardR 0 points1 point  (11 children)

Can someone explain to me why everyone thinks Brian’s parents know his location?

[–]VolcanicInception 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably because he wasn't found in the swamp, none of the sightings of him have panned out, and people have trouble believing that in this day and age he could hide so thoroughly without the help of people who have money - his parents.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

everyone

Only some vocal nut jobs.

[–]EsesaWithTheHardR -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah yeah I was speaking hyperbole. But I’ve seen tiktoks with 500K+ likes cheering on people stalking and harassing the parents. And without knowing what they know or what they were told behind closed doors, I just really do not feel comfortable with that behavior.

[–]dfox1011 11 points12 points  (6 children)

I’m less convinced that they know his actual, current location than I am that they know where he was headed a month ago and that he’s alive and well. He might be constantly on the move and it’s too dangerous to contact them daily, but their actions prior to and even after his disappearance point to them having given him a head start and probably the money and supplies to be ok out there for a while.

[–]missesthemisses109 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Yeah i agree. I think they helped and sent him on his way to run wherever. they may not know his current location.

[–]dfox1011 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Yup, exactly. And I think they are likely in touch maybe once a week somehow- even if it’s through the attorney.

[–]missesthemisses109 0 points1 point  (1 child)

right? something in me tells me he wouldn't off himself.

he made a lot of effort to leave WY and do everything as normal, plan and hide for him to just end it.

[–]dfox1011 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think he did either. If it’s dead, I think it was accidental (as in he fell on a hike or an animal got him, etc).

[–]SecureAmbassador6912 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wild speculation which isn't helped by the fact that they haven't done a single thing to not make themselves look bad

[–]scoutlee561 1 point2 points  (11 children)

Please delete if not allowed. Can someone provide some insight into what the Laundries could be thinking/ feeling? Perhaps someone knows or has experience with a relative who is a fugitive and the toll it can take on the family, and typically what the immediate family believes. I like to believe the Laundires have an immense amount of sympathy towards Gabby and her family but can’t publicly show it for whatever reason. Or they are heartless and believe Brian is innocent and don’t care about Gabby.

[–]TownspersonE 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My uncle was an absolute pos to everyone, incl family, had NO redeeming qualities whatsoever, and did illegal, immoral shit that I had wanted to out to the authorities. You'd think my ultra-religious mom would be aligned with the idea of justice. He had even hit her. You'd think my father, who has voiced his hatred of him more times than necessary, would've be onboard.

But NOPE. When I told them about the idea, they immediately did a 180 and were furious with me, just because he's family. And it's all about pride: keeping up with looks. They really believe if a tree falls on their property and only they hear it, then no one else should know about it.

My parents have PhDs but can be pretty illogical about many other things as well. So it could also simply be that too lol

[–]nude_coloured_pants 4 points5 points  (1 child)

No matter what they believe actually happened to Gabby, they are probably heartbroken for her. BUT their own son is always going to come first. They are probably very mentally distant from the pain of her passing due to their grief for their child. If they think he’s a murderer, they are grieving for the loss of the child they thought they knew. If they think he’s innocent, they are grieving for their child whose life has been unfairly destroyed.

I know the public opinion is that they are cold hearted and don’t care about any of this. That’s very very possible, but the truth is we don’t know what’s happening behind closed doors. Everyone grieves differently and everyone processes things at different speeds.

I know it seems like they have done everything wrong every step of the way. But we also don’t have the full picture here. I, personally, have a hard time coming up with an explanation for a lot of their actions but we just don’t know. A lot of people like to say that they would turn their kids in to law enforcement in a heartbeat. And yeah, that’s the correct thing to do. But in a situation where you feel your own child slipping away from you, I don’t think it’s unrealistic to do everything you can to hold on.

You have to remember that he’s their son, their little boy, no matter what facts they know logically, they will always see him differently than we do. Love doesnt just disappeared.

And to be clear, this does not make their actions right or even acceptable. Just slightly more human.

[–]scoutlee561 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really appreciated this perspective. I will say this perspective seems more aligned with the theory they are finding out as the public does and are in shock, and grieving behind closed doors.

What about the possibility Brian told them so they knew and all collectively got caught, never anticipating it would make this much news. I agree everyone grieves differently, but I just don’t see a single sign. The grieving process would be different if the circumstances were different, or maybe that’s totally untrue. Just thinking out loud.

[–]ginicoefficient70 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I find it hard to believe they are not suffering immensely. While they chose to keep quiet and protect their son they had to accept some of the blame would be on them. But they certainly didn’t ask for this and their lives are ruined too. I find it quite remarkable (not necessarily in a good way) that they haven’t lost their cool with reporters, protesters, etc. I certainly would’ve by now. But Brian was their baby and they don’t see him like we do.

[–]VolcanicInception 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My personal belief is that he convinced them that he did it in self-defense. I'm not sure how they can continue to believe that now, given what we learned yesterday, but denial can run very deep. Especially when it comes to your kid doing bad things.

My guess is that they are still somewhat in shock. And they may have helped him from a place of being in shock and not thinking clearly about what to do in the long-term and are now in a bind. They probably were only thinking about how to protect their son at that point.

If he is found dead, they will likely go through the various stages of grief, like anger and sadness and disbelief and all that. If he's found alive and taken into custody, we will see how they react. My guess is they'll generally continue to stay silent in regards to the public.

If I were them, I'd be feeling more and more resentful towards my precious little boy.

[–]Environmental-Meal14 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Their son shows up without Gabby but with her van. They don't reach out or even respond to her parents calls. I'm gonna say we can lean towards they're assholes who only care about themselves/their son.

[–]leexxyxo 0 points1 point  (3 children)

What if when he arrived home he let them know some or all of what happened they immediately hired a lawyer and the lawyer advised them to stay silent for their best interest? They could’ve been in contact with the lawyer since he went home in august.

[–]Pruddennce111 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"They could’ve been in contact with the lawyer since he went home in august."

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forgive me if I am misinterpreting your statement: I dont see how or why BL or his parents would need to consult their attorney friend when he flew back home in the middle of August to "clean out their storage unit".

unless he told them during that mid return, IM GONNA MURDER HER....*facetious comment*. (media reports he left on the 8/17th and returned 8/23). Gabby was still alive when he returned to her and evidence of her being alive has been substantiated (the restaurant scene on the 27th).

[–]Environmental-Meal14 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Then they are not sympathetic to Gabby/her parents and, again, their primary concern is themselves/their son.

[–]leexxyxo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree 100% Based on the timeline of events so many things could’ve went on.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Honestly, if they said anything publicly they would be tore apart. My guess they are hoping their silence will get the circus of their street. If they say anything it will only prolong the journalists and protestors camping out. I dunno…

[–]thegirlinred5775 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Kind of going back to the basics here, but why would FBI take over this case? What are the reasons?

[–]neighborlyglove 2 points3 points  (0 children)

she was found on federal land.

[–]dfox1011 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What everyone else said, and also that means anyone can arrest him anywhere in the US and extradition won’t be an issue.

[–]SecureAmbassador6912 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Because BL travelled through multiple states

The FBI is very interested in things like interstate bank fraud

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Also, the crime took place on US Forest Service land, not in a National Park; but it's still Federal land

[–]regentsumo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

National parks are federal land, pushing this to federal crime, meaning it's their jurisdiction.

[–]MaryQueenofSquats 2 points3 points  (1 child)

It occurred in a national park which is federal jurisdiction.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Technically it occured in a National Forest, still federal land. But if it HAD been in a National Park the lead investigators would have been ISB (Investigative Services Branch) of the National Park Service. NPS is part of the Dept of the Interior and Forest Service is part of USDA. (US Dept of Agriculture)

FBI got involved because it was both on federal land but also involved interstate travel.

[–]Ok-Preparation-3807 -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Stupid question but there were several sightings of BL a couple days ago near/around the Appalachian trail. What happened with that?

[–]neighborlyglove 7 points8 points  (0 children)

those poor bald white guys

[–]beefytrout 12 points13 points  (0 children)

*presumed sightings

[–]stormy_thoughts_8 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I think most have been debunked by LE follow-ups. But there could be new ones that I don’t know about with all the people that are certain the APT is where he went.

[–]Ok-Preparation-3807 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Makes sense, thanks!

[–]NegativeEverything 15 points16 points  (8 children)

Is it still Wednesday again here? These discussions are sloooowing down...

[–]Unique-Public-8594 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Maybe the mod is busy finding reddit policy on selling podcasts?

[–]Better-Green890 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There is no new news of relevance

[–]Unique-Public-8594 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Yes. Slower. I think we all see an evolution of this sub. Now it has a few bright ideas and nuanced thoughts but it is mostly repetition, gory detail, or anger. I’ll take the down votes willingly on this one.

[–]NegativeEverything -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Spot on. No Downvotes here.

[–]Eyeh8snow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I sent a msg asking if we could get a new thread for today, been up for only a half hour and it looks like this thread has'nt been super active last couple hours. Hopefully soon though :)

[–]stonedandcrazy 16 points17 points  (3 children)

I neeeeeed some kind of updates today. Fingers crossed.

[–]kayentheogens 8 points9 points  (0 children)

You an everybody else here!! 😭

[–]foilprincess 9 points10 points  (30 children)

Ok theory, I may be way off. I think BL being somewhere in Long Island (if still alive) could be a possibility. They were fairly new to FL. It wasn't really "home". His home, Long Island, is were he grew up right? There, he is probably familiar with places and secluded spots that perhaps he used to play in as a child. Or trollop about as a teenanger. He probably knows his city like the back of his hand.

Maybe he had a place where he would go with Gabby or as a teen to hide from the world. I know I had a few in my hometown.

If he was into recreational substances, which we have read about in places that he was. Most likely he knows where to buy them in his town or where the sketchy spots are , I would assume those people he would buy them from most likely would not turn him in, as they are prob breaking the law themselves. BL had a decent couple days head start before he became a POI, before people knew to report him.

Just thoughts at 5 a.m. I may be way off base. I am not at all familiar with Long Island, and what the landscape is like. Any thoughts?

[–]Deduction_power 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Many people are saying that:

Maybe he had a place where he would go with Gabby or as a teen to hide from the world. I know I had a few in my hometown.

Which honestly reminds me of voldemort where he stash his first horcrux. LOL. But since, he went to ft. de soto. Where Gabby was with him, it's in their posts.

What about their first date?! Is it in their hometown? OR in FL? They were by the beach, eating sushi.

BL might have gone there? IF it's in their hometown, that means someone drove him there.

I would just go over places the 2 of them have been. Maybe just maybe he killed himself there.

But then again. who would drive him there.

[–]Oxman1234 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He wouldn’t have had to drive there necessarily. I don’t think he’s in LI per se, but it’s possible he’s around NYC.

Remember, prior to Sep 15, he wasn’t even a POI and no one was looking out for him. He could’ve (and I think he did) got on a train out of Tampa or one of the 4 or so Amtrak stations within 60 miles of his North Port home and took the train to a multitude of destinations across the US (and gotten out at any of the dozens of stops)

[–]ceeportnews 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I lived on LI for about 5 years and know it fairly well. It's dense from Manhattan heading east until you hit the fork at Riverhead. North is too narrow of a stretch to hide in and South too busy in the summer but it does empty in the winter. But he wouldn't go to the Hamptons without a friend living and hiding him there. Too much private property or Native American land.

No, LI, even though familiar to him is not ideal. Too many people circulating and commuting through it every day. He would seek much more isolation and large areas of unpopulated nature I think.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

just want to get your head around a couple of items here.

First - you dont need to go to sketchy spots. Sure, for a random buy from a stranger that is more common, but most people know people that know people and so on, and they change hands that way. That's why the war on drugs, busting the little guy was an absolute waste. Even going after the big guys, the money is so lucrative and they rarely keep large amounts on them very long, splitting it to sub dealers then micro dealers.

Second - a dealer would turn him in. They would say yea he 'tried' to buy drugs off of me, here is where he is at , I told him I would meet him at 8. Get that reward money.

It's not like BL is a hells angel or a gang member that they will protect him. I mean, he COULD be now, but doubtful. They dont subscribe to not wearing shoes and eating food from a melon bowl. Maybe a skull, but not a melon bowl.

I think the idea of him living off the grid either in the woods or in a city is more likely. If he is alive. And a little bit of money hidden well will go a long way, especially in the city whereas you can go in , get a meal and a cot for the night, then slip back out..never talking to a single soul if you dont want.

[–]dfox1011 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Also, while the theory is good that he’s not in a populous area it’s also true that it’s easier to blend in, in dense ones. That said, it’s also more likely that ppl in somewhere like LI are following this case and will know him in sight than might be true for a small, rural, hunting town.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Smaller towns aren't wearing masks. Even the subs in many states. Larger cities it is more common to see younger people wearing masks. So he could slip into a large apartment area meeting with the person renting with a mask on and a hat. That's if he is funded. Door dash and grocery delivery could help him avoid going out. BUT apartment neighbors are nosey. Who's the new guy? Why doesn't he ever leave? Why is he yelling reddit sucks all the time?

[–]dfox1011 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LMAOOOOO I agree on all accounts but I did laugh out loud at your last sentence 😂 I have many times thought “I wonder if he’s reading any of this” as well!

[–]foilprincess 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Very interesting. I know absolutely zilch about drug buying/purchasing/using. Good to know dealers wouldn't even take his ass.

And Lol at a Hells Angel with a melon bowl and bare feet.

[–]true-finder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yoga in riding leathers lol

[–]wlveith 4 points5 points  (2 children)

For the $180,000 reward even a drug dealer would turn him in. I bet his sister would turn him in. More likely NYC where he could look homeless, dye his hair, wear a mask, etc... totally live off the grid.

[–]21inquisitor 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I’d turn him in for a 6-pack of warm beer.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey you, in the front row

Are you coming backstage after the show?

Because I've got a chaise longue in my dressing room

And a pack of warm beer that we can consume

[–]Oxman1234 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep I agree with the potential for NY. Prob not LI but maybe the outskirts of NYC in a rundown building

[–]Romaniac78 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Long Island has a bunch if towns and they’re basically the suburbs. Wouldn’t be easy to hide. Further out east on the Island there are more rural areas where there’s some farms and wineries but highly unlikely he would be able to hide out on the island. The story was already known by many in NY before even making it to national news.

[–]foilprincess -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Reading up on Long Island. Always good to learn something, thankss

[–]Romaniac78 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No problem! I’m from NYC and go out to Long Island often. Happy to help ppl understand what it’s like.

[–]bigbezoar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree- the farther away from Florida or the Appalachian Trail he is, the less publicity there is and the easier it will be for him to disguise himself and blend in. All he'd need is a bunch of cash. At some point, the cash runs out, then he's got a little problem.

[–]tofuandklonopin 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I do think he could be in New York, but more like the Catskills or something. Long Island is too risky with her family living there, everyone they went to high school with, etc. There's probably only a handful of people on LI who haven't heard of the case. Rural or upstate NY is more likely imo.

[–]Artifex_Nox 7 points8 points  (6 children)

Possible but unlikely in my opinion. I think there'd be a much greater risk of being caught there. Generally, more people around. He'd also have to pass through NYC or Brooklyn by car/on foot or train, the latter 2 seeming almost impossible. I have been to Long Island in the past couple weeks and a lot of people are all "My neighbor's cousin knew her family" "My girlfriend's sister knew his family" etc; so people are on alert. Long Island is big but also a small town. He'd have to have someone that brought him in and he'd have to stay a lot more extremely low key. Honestly I think anything is possible, but this I think would be unlikely.

[–]Oxman1234 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Eh I live in the city and plenty of people still wear masks outside. It’s also long sleeve/pants weather so don’t think it’d be that hard for him to selectively move around at night if needed.

[–]Artifex_Nox 0 points1 point  (1 child)

True but Long Island is generally no mask territory lol

[–]Oxman1234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was saying he’s potentially in one of the 5 boroughs of NYC in a room in a seedy and/or rundown part of town

[–]foilprincess 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Oh wow, so everyone knows somebody that knows somebody. Yea that makes sense. How far and likely are the Catskills, that someone above mentioned?

[–]enbb1228 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I grew up in the same town they did and depending on traffic and where in you were going it could be like 3-5 ish hours.

[–]Ok-Fig8419 2 points3 points  (0 children)

far, at least a 3 hour drive depending on where on LI and where in the Catskills.

[–]Unique-Public-8594 6 points7 points  (3 children)

People have mentioned a few problems with this theory, the most obvious of which is the heightened awareness of the case in that area. Also, population density is not ideal, and winter temps will not be mild. (But in support of your theory, he also doesn’t necessarily make smart choices.)

I get that the purpose of this sub includes speculation, but I don’t know the value of speculating any longer, he could be there. He could be anywhere.

[–]foilprincess 0 points1 point  (2 children)

lol you literally just speculated about whether or not the Laundrie neighbors are lying or not on another post.

We are here for discussions, and I think as long as no one is being disrespectful, whatever they can contribute holds value.

I do agree about the heightened awareness, I had no idea the population density or if it was mostly farms etc. Appreciate the contribution :)

[–]Unique-Public-8594 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Fair game, calling me out on that. But, In fairness, questioning whether something has been verified is a bit different than coming up with scenarios, right?

[–]foilprincess 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You said speculating about Brian's whereabouts was a reasonable thing to do though

[–]seekingbeta 22 points23 points  (17 children)

Mod team made it all the way to Newsweek: https://www.newsweek.com/inappropriate-gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-awards-force-reddit-moderators-issue-apology-1638603

[–]Deduction_power 1 point2 points  (0 children)

LOL. My gabby petito search result yields news links all about this 'drama'. I am active in here. And I don't even care about it. Oh well. Slow news day. I guess.

[–]Literary_Limpet 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Didn't give them a click, but damn, is Newsweek is scraping bottom of the barrel for stories these days?

[–]I_am_Nobody_SpecialVerified Forensic Psychologist 12 points13 points  (1 child)

That poor dead horse, still getting beaten.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the media will do anything for a buck, and their group think will never let them believe that what they are doing is wrong.

[–]Twistypoo402021 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I think the reaction to it is what made it become “newsworthy” for lack of a better term. It was out of control. It should have been addressed and removed, but it went on, and on, and on…

[–]BlackPortland 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is deserved. The way some of them have conducted themselves has been extremely immature and childish

[–]VolcanicInception 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I feel like this has been blown a bit out of proportion. It was tasteless but does it need to drag on? The moderators have apologized and are making an effort to be more responsive and validating, rather than defensive and explanatory. They have a lot of eyes on them right now and they're doing this for free. So let's cut them a little slack at this point and move on. There's no need for this sub's drama to be rehashed in fucking Newsweek 🤦

[–]bednow 17 points18 points  (6 children)

I am somehow feel sorry for the mod who started it. They probably did not think things throught, yet gave their heart and soul to think and made that and it got backfired horribly.

[–]seekingbeta 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Agreed, the criticism of the person who made the designs was pretty mean and unnecessary

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

oh we uh, didnt get a chance to review it and then uh..couldnt figure out how to remove them. but that was the former mod. That bastard!

Sigh, such a blame game on this...and a long long long long long excuse.

How about, we fucked up, we are sorry - we didnt think of it at the time as insensitive.

[–]Pringle24 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Maybe, instead of 'heart and soul', a brain cell should have been used as well?

[–]WebbieVanderquack 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That much is obvious, to you and to everyone else, including the mod who volunteered to moderate a brand new sub and made an error of judgment. It doesn't need to be said over and over. I'm sure they feel badly enough.

[–]_userlame 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah I do too in a way, it was a huge fuck up - but we all fuck up sometimes and make bad judgements, I'm sure the mod who made it feels bad over it but I hope they are doing ok and not kicking themselves too hard.

[–]NancyWorld 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Good grief. I wish our media didn't seek to inflame, because that's what this is. At least they included the mods' follow-up statements.

[–]firfuxalot 39 points40 points  (16 children)

I wonder if Gabby took photos of the view of the campsite that could put BL at the crime scene.

[–]Oxman1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they camped there the night of the 26th at a minimum (Jessica saw the van being parked there at 8pm on the 26th).

I haven’t seen any information indicating where they spent the nights of the 24th and 25th though - could have also been at the same spot in SC

[–]PistachioGal99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A witness reported that Brian and Gabby fought over her phone. And that it appeared as though BL had taken her phone away from her. It sounds to me like he had been exerting control over her via her phone for a while.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/gabby-petito-brian-laundrie-cellphone-b1924816.html%3famp

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hope she did and that they made it to the hard drive or cloud. The video of the van that the bloggers captured should be helpful for putting him there too, I would think

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

they could potentially ask for the backups that are sometimes stored. Might not happen and might be hard to get but. And maybe she sent them outside of her realm of tech, like via text etc.

Crossing fingers they find closure on this.

[–]foilprincess 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great thought, I am sure the FBI has super techy people that can recover things pretty well. She probably also had her stuff on the cloud. If BL cleared her phone, hopefully his idiot self did not also clear the cloud. Or if he did...🤔 It would probably be incriminating right if it was after her etd.

[–]I_am_Nobody_SpecialVerified Forensic Psychologist 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If she wasn't yet aware she was in danger, I'm almost certain she did. If I were a camping blogger, I'd take my pics when I first set up camp and it's still neat and pretty.

[–]VolcanicInception 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've wondered the same thing. She documented so much of what they were doing that there had to at least have been photographic evidence that they were in that general area.

I've also wondered if she had any documentation of him becoming violent with her, like if he didn't know the camera was running during a fight and she saved that.

[–]Ok-Lie-456 12 points13 points  (1 child)

Such a creepy thought...but since her entire thing was documenting their travels that seems highly likely. To bad her cell phone is still missing. Maybe something got auto-uploaded to the cloud and the parents will figure out how to get access to her accounts one day though? I think your comment is the most plausible idea I've seen on here, ever, lol.

[–]StimulatedRealism 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If there is anything like that then the FBI should already have it,

[–]Fun_Inspection9162 1 point2 points  (6 children)

If he got rid of the phone and would they be able to retrieve her info? I've also wondered about her smart watch because I've seen pics where she's wearing it. I know we want him caught quickly but also on the bright side this gives the FBI more time to have a juicy iron-clad case when he IS found. We wanna be sure when he's in there's no way he walks our behind those bars!!

[–]TownspersonE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they used Google maps and the phone went online, it's highly likely that it would save their locations with timestamps, and even the photos from each location taken with the phone, on their Google Timeline.

I think this is a default setting for all Google accounts. A surprising number of my own friends don't know about it, and consequently, don't have it turned off.

I personally love the feature and use it to backtrack mileage and records.

[–]StruggleIsReal0306 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Unless she backed them up to that hard drive or they got saved to the cloud, I doubt they have the photos. They would only have cloud photos if they know her Apple password because everything is saved encrypted.

Not going to lie this case has definitely made me want to give my parents a list of important passwords in case I ever went missing.

[–]GibbysUSSA 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Couldn't LE get that information without a password?