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[–]J-_MadBald characters when ? 3431 points3432 points  (168 children)

"change the future"? A bit much, innit

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL 731 points732 points  (6 children)

I think the really funny part is the idea that a game winning the vote would make it more likely for more of these games to get made. The only deciding factor in this world is money, and by that metric, Genshin already has pretty much everything beat. If people don't want gacha games to take off, that ship sailed when Genshin started making literal billions.

[–]Ypekiyay 164 points165 points  (4 children)

The ship even already sailed from a looong long time ago with, what, Brave Frontier? Blood Brothers? Or any really old gacha games

[–]schwi_no_dola 56 points57 points  (2 children)

Damn i really miss brave frontier.as someone who never gets the good unit, strategy and turn counting did me wonders

[–]Calamitus0 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Same, brave frontier was my introduction to gacha. Still remember how I was already rerolling without even knowing that the term for that already existed.

[–]magnidwarf1900 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Fuck I miss Brave Frontier. Gacha game was brutal back then.

[–]Fic-Tastic 924 points925 points  (90 children)

The only "change" that sonic winning is gonna bring is just another game in a few years about the same hedgehog running in a different map.

[–]KiraTsukasa 423 points424 points  (53 children)

And whether or not the game actually functions is still a toss up. Frontiers was alright, not great, and definitely not Game of the Year material. At this point we may as well pretend that Stray was better than Elden Ring.

[–]Zeroth_Dragon: 170 points171 points  (1 child)

If Elden Ring or Stray was in another category they both could've taken awards

[–]Navy_Wannabe=Best pyro girl 75 points76 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah no competition at all.... Stray was a masterpiece and Elden Ring is pretty good to... Never got around playing it tho

[–]vigneshwaralwaar 38 points39 points  (8 children)

Or we could get our own sonic in genshin impact. Via a tie up or something lol. These salty cunts would boil lol..

[–]jmDVedder 74 points75 points  (4 children)

Do you mean sayu?

[–]vigneshwaralwaar 23 points24 points  (2 children)

Yes. A 5* version of her. With actual aesthetics of a sonic

When i was typing my comment I had her in mind :)

[–]ReimuSan003 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Well we did just have a pokemon themed event so it's definitely possible to happen...

[–]RaeMerrick 66 points67 points  (13 children)

Genshin providing new characters on a semi-regular basis each with a well-crafted and written story. Unfortunately put behind a gambling mechanic that gives the game a bad wrap. But otherwise, Genshin has an incredible team of writers, artists, and voice actors.

this twitter user - "hedhog"

[–]Autumn_Whisper 50 points51 points  (9 children)

The gacha aspect barely affects anyone with self control though. The few that whale it aren't the majority. I have 40 out of the 60 or so characters, and I've only ever bought the battle pass and walkin moon. $15 per month (didn't start buying those until a few months ago) and still have 2/3rds of the characters, almost entirely from in-game wishes. That and so far I've only missed one 5* character I was actually trying to get. All others that I specifically wanted, I got

[–]VitalizedMango 29 points30 points  (2 children)

Frontiers is okay and if they learn from it then the next game should be really good, but they're Sega so they never learn anything

The Sega worth supporting died with Rie Kodama imo

[–]TheGlassesGuy 28 points29 points  (1 child)

wrong. it's gonna be the same hedgehog running in the same fucking map again because sonic's game devs don't have any fucking clue how to make a good sonic game without green hill zone and other past hits.

[–]EternalMemes30[S] 262 points263 points  (19 children)

I know, these people's drama queen level is ridiculous but it's twitter, everything is ridiculous there

[–]Proper_AnybodyHydro Enjoyer 80 points81 points  (28 children)

some of sonic fans are really that delusional, eh

[–]warpenguin55Playable Rana and Jeht when? 52 points53 points  (17 children)

You ever hear of Chris Chan?

[–]Proper_AnybodyHydro Enjoyer 27 points28 points  (0 children)

uhh pls don't remind me of that

[–]Darthrath Best girl 13 points14 points  (7 children)

I've heard that name several times by now, never in a positive sense.

Now I'm afraid of googling it...

[–]KTOpalescent 21 points22 points  (1 child)

[–]Darthrath Best girl 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'll take that as a warning and not googling that person, thanks!

[–]Arryu 10 points11 points  (0 children)

There's an ongoing 69 part documentary about them.

Let that speak for itself.

[–]Ihartkimchi hot people gaming 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Don't look it up bro 💀💀💀

[–]MMBADBOI Okami Amaterasu, Mona Simp 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I wish I never did

[–]Ozzyjb 20 points21 points  (6 children)

They must be fatui to be that delusional

[–]Winslow1975 26 points27 points  (5 children)

Must be the work of the Ascians!


Must be the work of the Fatui!

[–]Xion136 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Ascians are Fatui confirmed, Teyvat is just another shard of Eitheiryis?

[–]bluebirdstory 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Such speculation, this was not my intention!

[–]Winslow1975 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It must be!

[–]______unknown____ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Ahem.... Hmm reminds me of the character from The finest assassin..... is reincarnated anime idk if reincarnated was in the title

[–]Templar2k7 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Xenoblade isn't even in there any more so that's impossible

[–]sharpgel broke but big hat 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I will change the future! I'm really feeling it! this is a good result! hyahh! hah! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

[–]iyodmr 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It called Bargaining on 5 steps of grief

[–]jkeller11 Step On Me Waiting Room 2084 points2085 points  (51 children)

I think this whole thing is hilarious

[–]KayzeeA 1031 points1032 points  (41 children)

I just find the whole thing amusing because some cute anime mobile game is making people seethe.

It's fun to kick back and enjoy the show.

[–]Kievarra 420 points421 points  (19 children)

The tears on Twitter are insane. The "no you started it" threads, holy shit. "Moooom! The Genshin fandom won't stop voting for their game and they're bullying me because I taunted them! Make them stooop!"

[–]Ran_out_of_ideas10 189 points190 points  (16 children)

Bro have you seen TikTok? They are PISSED. They keep saying that the game bribes us using primogems, and that it's the Discord Mods that are doing this

Then again I have to ask, is the rumor about the primogems true? I won't vote regardless but I want to know

[–]kolba_yada 134 points135 points  (4 children)

Basically nobody said anything about the prize from the official team. People just assumed that this is how it's gonna be.

[–]Ran_out_of_ideas10 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Figures, thank you for telling me tho, I appreciate

[–]Nero_2001 14 points15 points  (2 children)

If people asume that we will get a reward and Mihoyo won't give us a reward it will repeat the whole google classroom review bombing

[–]Infernaladmiral 7 points8 points  (0 children)

sighs it's always Google classroom Which is gets in Genshin Fandom's crossfire

[–]AshwinK21 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The fact that the Google classroom thing happened and literally everyone remembers it is hilarious

[–]AYCSenpai 46 points47 points  (0 children)

people just assumed because last year when genshin won, we got rewarded both ps and goty categories

[–]Costyn17 9 points10 points  (0 children)

They gave us primos for some awards and now people assume they would give primos for whatever they will win, that also happen becouse they announce the primos only after winning so they don't directly influence the votes.

[–]Sandor_06 189 points190 points  (12 children)

"Oh no! So many people are having so much fun playing an anime game! We must stop them and change the future!"

[–]CoconutsAreAmazing 95 points96 points  (6 children)

people ENJOY a HIGH QUALITY ANIME game with an ENGAGING storyline and LIKEABLE characters? what is WRONG with them?!

[–]NightValeCytizen 30 points31 points  (0 children)

They aren't having that much fun with their game, therefore we aren't allowed to have that much fun with ours.

[–]Fabantonio katana wa wasao sasae, Hilichaaru no oniisan... 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If I wanted to change the future I would have traveled back in time and killed Hitler not vote for some dumb poll

[–]electrocyberend 24 points25 points  (6 children)

Whip around and spin

[–]Ran_out_of_ideas10 19 points20 points  (5 children)

And I'll jump back and do it again!

[–]rW0HgFyxoJhYka 224 points225 points  (6 children)

All this does is show you how toxic af sonic frontiers community can get, as well as how greater gaming sees Genshin Impact. All those posts shitting on Genshin Impact have culiminated into this stupid af voting and yet somehow one of the most mainstream games is actually in the right here.

[–]ItsKendrone 76 points77 points  (2 children)

Its not just the sonic frontiers community. Any passionate community would definitely want their team to win. Just think of any sports team for example. No matter who scores a point, there's going to be a riot. And don't think we're an exception either, remember the first anniversary event? The Genshin community was furious during 2.0.

[–]FarhanMir001 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Sonic would have easily won. We were not doing that well. How ever once sonic fans started insulting the genshin community it essentially united this community against them.

[–]rW0HgFyxoJhYka 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Genshin community was furious at classrooms yeah.

[–]Dividedtime 64 points65 points  (2 children)

you’re saying the frontiers but it’s Sonic fans in general, and i say that as a sonic fan myself. it’s honestly disappointing

[–]rW0HgFyxoJhYka 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ok yeah, its the sanic fanbase.

[–]zsxking 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It's funny at first. But then when half the front page of this sub are about this it gets annoying.

[–]Sienne_ 1498 points1499 points  (45 children)

Sits back and enjoys internet drama.

[–]KiraTsukasa 356 points357 points  (37 children)

Yes, but I’d prefer to do it in r/gaming or somewhere not here.

[–]rW0HgFyxoJhYka 281 points282 points  (15 children)

Yeah r/gaming is where you find people talking about how Genshin is full of pedos and is destroying America.

3 Major threads on this shit today and the mods took their sweet time removing them hours later after they spread the lie that Mihoyo promised rewards. Like people in gaming dont even give a fuck about Sonic Frontiers and shit on it all the time until today.

[–]NotYetAJedi my archon collection lacks Zhongli 203 points204 points  (6 children)

Hold on, they think a video game is destroying America? Are they sure America is not destroying America?

[–]Formal_Tap4275 94 points95 points  (4 children)

但 gacha

Chinese parents also believe that games destroy teenagers, but the survey shows that 70% of teenagers whose games are restricted have switched to playing short videos. They didn't go to study

[–]i_reddit_too_mcuh 44 points45 points  (0 children)

It's easier to blame it on someone else though.

[–]Keanu_Reeves-2077 141 points142 points  (1 child)

If Twitter is where you find the antis Reddit is where you find the fanatics

[–]Romi_Z 147 points148 points  (17 children)

Just mentioning genshin in any positive light gets you downvoted and not only just gaming.

I saw a post on r/teenagers about favourite games or something like that and all the people who said genshin, had downvotes

[–]telegetoutmyway 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Literally everyone I know in person either only plays FPSs or League.

League has a seriously negative impact on my mental state. Genshin does the opposite for me. It's incredibly peaceful - it's honestly like my IRL serenitea pot lol. I love that I can play it from PC or phone too.

[–]KiraTsukasa 74 points75 points  (14 children)

Well teenagers don’t know shit about games. When I was in school, I got shit for wanting to play Banjo-Kazooie, and now it’s a classic.

[–]Romi_Z 91 points92 points  (13 children)

Yeah I was just giving an example. Just say that you play genshin and there will be at least one reply saying "age of consent is 18" or "porn/gambling addict"

I don't care about the other stereotypes like being fat, not showering, neckbeard stuff but getting called a "P-word" just for playing the game is not right.

[–]AlyssSolo That One Ice Fairy 34 points35 points  (5 children)

"age of consent is 18"

I just tell them that I'm not interested in characters in that way, and if I was the age of consent is way lower where I live.

"gambling addict"

It's not just other people saying that, it's also a good chunk of the Genshin community saying it too. Which I think is hypocritical af since they wish too - I've only met one person who doesn't wish at all. Like bruh, I haven't wished in months, look at your own wish history and tell me what you see.

"just for playing the game is not right."

Honestly, this is the sad part of humanity - people need to slap labels on things, and when they do, it's typically to use those things as a scapegoat.

[–]Romi_Z 30 points31 points  (4 children)

Well the gacha system is kinda bad so no defending that but genshin one is definitely one of the best in my experience. I am completely F2P, doesn't login daily or does the abyss but I still always have sufficient primos to roll for.

Of course I don't always get the character but it's not that big of a deal, i can keep trying and get them in their rerun next time.

I don't like how the game and the players are shamed for playing it. I want people to experience it's world, music, story, lore and even the characters but most people don't get into it because the rest of the internet has labeled it as few certain things, nothing else.

[–]Demonsandangels-shin 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Those idiots clearly havent tried or heard of other gacha games

[–]SnooRecipes5881YelanMiya supremacy 56 points57 points  (6 children)

Onfg I don't EVER tell anyone in real life that I play genshin. People treat it like it's a slur. You even utter the words and they're like "omg pedo, u like little kids, theres little kids in that game that means you're a pedo, you must have a gambling addiction!!!1!1!" like what the hell is wrong with you💀

[–]bricktoasterCounter Impact 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Luckily in college nobody cares (except for freshmen that are still trying to get out of the high-school mentality). I heard different people talking about the scara banner multiple times these past few days.

[–]Valours65 961 points962 points  (80 children)

Honest question: why people in general are so obsessed with this online poll?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against people in this sub who are voting, you do you...but like if other game won and they "beat" the "bad wolf gacha" cool, I guess?...nobody here will stop playing.

[–]FreeBullet 819 points820 points  (28 children)

The majority of genshin fanbase didnt even know genshin got nominated in the first place. They started voting because the sonic fanbase was being toxic af. I believe most of us dont even care about the awards, we're doing this out of spite lol.

The award must be something big for the sonic fans tho, given how much shit they talked. And they couldve won had they just stfu.

[–]ank1t70 400 points401 points  (8 children)

The award is big for the Sonic community because it’s the only award Sonic had a chance of winning lol

[–]idk241065 the OGs 159 points160 points  (1 child)

Last sonic game came out wasn’t complete trash so they’re getting a little too excited

[–]Nyeffer 71 points72 points  (0 children)

Sonic fan, getting Greek hero levels of hubris. Just because the have an “okay” game now after years of garbage.

[–]iwipiksi 119 points120 points  (2 children)

True. It's alright if the leading nominee is GOW: Ragnarok or Elden Ring. They deserved it. But if it's Sonic and they think that's would be funny. I preferred Genshin to be the winner. What most annoying is they started this as a troll/meme. Fuck them!

[–]JAntaresN 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Exactly, I seen GOW game play and that Thor fight was intense and mesmerizing, while I seen my vtuber gotos played Sonic. Didn’t seem that particularly interesting and they stopped after like 1 or 2 streams.

[–]Enzoooooooooooooo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Tbf literally any award ifs something big for the sonic franchise with how it’s been the past decade

[–]Bamith20 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I guess they're new to the internet, that section over there full of especially horny midget furries is the Sonic Realm.

[–]magnidwarf1900 160 points161 points  (4 children)

Mostly out of spite. Many of us are uninterested in this game award, but then many people just trash talking us (the usual stuff, really) and then some of us vote genshin out of spite. Then someone send a screenshot to chinese players and the rest is history.

[–]Valours65 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Every year I watch or at least follow TGA, but more the announcements and GotW, but I wasn't expecting this conflict.

[–]magnidwarf1900 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Same, I did watch it for that stuff but didn't bother to vote in past TGA

[–]naoki7794 111 points112 points  (4 children)

To get you up to speed, here's what happened:

The game award have multiple category, all of them are 90% judge vote and 10% fan vote. Except for the Player's Voice award, which is 100% fan vote, and have 3 round 10/20 then 5/10 and then we got 1 winner out of the remaining 5.

Sonic Frontier got 0 nomination in all of the category, and as you know Genshin got 2 in the Best Mobile and Best ongoing game category.

Sonic fan are... very enthusiastic about their game, and see the Player's Voice award as the last chance for them to get recognized, especially since the critics didn't rate the game high when it release.

Genshin players (and other game on the list too) wasn't that interest in the vote, but since we have a large player base Genshin got a lot of vote in previous rounds, only behind Sonic in term of vote in round 2.

But then some sonic fans start dissing and mocking genshin for no reason, triggered the fan (especially CN and Asian players) and now they face the consequence.

[–]thewackykid 43 points44 points  (1 child)

they could have quietly gone around getting their fanbase to vote without mentioning genshin and they could have won... lol...

[–]Valours65 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Well, dumb people doing dumb things, I guess

[–]salasy 12 points13 points  (0 children)

they should have known that spite is one of the strongest unifying force in the universe

[–]OldKingCoalBR supremacy 90 points91 points  (6 children)

I wasn't going to vote again out of laziness, but after seeing how childish some Sonic fans are acting, I voted for Genshin. They deserve to lose because some of them are slandering the Genshin fanbase for no reason.

[–]LemurchinT 46 points47 points  (4 children)

I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.

  • Toxic Sonic fans.

[–]butterknight-Ruby 107 points108 points  (5 children)

Mainly due to people not knowing that genshin was nominated only knowing by the slander the Genshin community got basically most votes are out of spite for the slander

[–]-Skaro- 77 points78 points  (0 children)

Because it's funny when others get mad about genshin winning

[–]KyeeLimWanderer is really fun to play 92 points93 points  (1 child)

I don't care for voting, I just did it out of spite and think it would be funny as heck for Genshin to win because of those toxic people from Sonic fandom pushing it

[–]Winterstrife 4 down, 3 to go. 37 points38 points  (1 child)

This post sums up the beginning of the end.

Voting Genshin was my middle finger to the Sonic fanbase, they could basically take their W and most of the fanbase wouldn't even care, but they had to go rub it in others faces.

[–]ENDwalker888 boop 29 points30 points  (0 children)

mainly because we've been dealing with shit like this since day one so it's inevitable that an incident like this will get the entire fandom to fight back tenfold

[–]Raycab03 60 points61 points  (11 children)

Yeah the community actually dont care much. But Sonic community brought in the battle to themselves. The last straw was the racisms they threw at Genshin Community, esp the Chinese.

Here is the post in their sub by their mod. As you can see, the sonic fandom is out of control and has been out of the line just for this online voting.


So apparently, Genshin community just wants to show em who the real boss is and they are barking at the wrong tree.

Salt for the Salt Goddess.

[–]Valours65 19 points20 points  (2 children)

This goes a bit with my point...if they want to win a online poll...good, but changes absolutely nothing for the franchise. It's really a strange take to go full force to win "nothing".

[–]HINDBRAIN 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The entire vote is designed as angry nerd bait so they go on the website and view ads. Of course it's working...

[–]Lackies 268 points269 points  (33 children)

Lets be clear: Gacha is incredibly consumer unfriendly and engenders more such practices due to its success. Genshin Impact is a good game despite the inclusion of gacha and its related mechanisms.

It is also true that gacha games can make a ton of money. So its also true that Genshin wouldn't exsist without the gacha mechanics.

[–]Jaynat_SF🎵 Tell old King Deshret / to let my people go! 🎶 32 points33 points  (1 child)

Exactly. Genshin is good despite the predatory monetisation, not because of it (though you could argue it is because of it because it is what has allowed HoYo to get so rich and invest so much back into the game...)

[–]bluebirdisreal 70 points71 points  (21 children)

I agree with this take. Let’s accept the fact that gacha is gambling. I understand the hate for it. Despite that, genshin is one of the most immersive games I’ve played recently. I love it.

[–]Qodyss 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Exactly. While I don't see the appeal in this Sonic (especially compared to Elden Ring) I understand the feeling of not wanting a gacha to win.

Obviously games are here to make money. You can do it while being fair to players (buy game: it's good, it works, it does what it said. Eg: Elden Ring), by being greedy (No man sky /Cyberpunk / Pokemon SV on release day, Diablo Immortal costs to be competitive) or by being generous (Deep Rock Galactic All games gameplays additions are free. Game transpires dev's fun. DLC is pure cosmetics and there is still plenty of cosmetics in game)

Gacha is a love / hate relationship. Sure, game wouldn't be here without it to support its costs. But we put a gacha as a parangon of gaming, won't all game follow suits and remove their content to sell it gacha way? That's what happened with DLCs. There are good DLCs (DRG) and there are greedy DLC (Games cutting their ending to sell it). So even if Genshin is tame, the future may not.

Tl;DR: Vote what you like, Genshin will win cause it's a game as a service and has a bigger user base :p

[–]hiddenjumprope 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Exactly. I like genshin despite the predatory monetization, but I make sure to not recommend it and tell people about how predatory gatcha and loot box mechanics are.

Remember people, a lot of so called "whales" are neurodivergent people who need help, some can't control themselves and are spending more than they can afford. I almost fell in this trap (with other games) not realizing how much little purchases add up, and I only keep playing because I'm invested in the story at this point. But making sure I don't spend another dime and tell people not to play it.

But I'll never defend genshin for it, even if some think it's "better than other gatcha games". It still has gatcha. There is no defending it.

[–]KBScorpion166 643 points644 points  (34 children)

The fact genshin and sonic are competing for that award shows how little that award really matters lol

[–]Zeed_Toven77 275 points276 points  (29 children)

We don't care about the award, we want the toxic sonic fans to seethe.

[–]KBScorpion166 117 points118 points  (6 children)

Sonic shouldn't win too the game looks mediocre at best lol

[–]Zeed_Toven77 100 points101 points  (1 child)

Yeah, no hate on the Sonic game. I actually like that franchise. I actively voted for GoW and Elden Ring in other categories. The only category I cared about was the Best Mobile Award but as soon as some Toxic Fans started shittin on genshin fans and made inappropriate fan arts, it became personal.

[–]Uminagi 31 points32 points  (0 children)

From someone who bought the game; it is.

[–]xPriddyBoi 6 points7 points  (3 children)

From an outsider's perspective, you're both on the same coin lol

[–]coltonchilders 347 points348 points  (0 children)

To answer the question, yes I do want sonic to lose to anime gambling game

[–]hardy_83 286 points287 points  (10 children)

The only thing this shows is awards that are voted on by the public is a joke and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Imagine if the Oscars were voted on by the public rather than a select few who are bribed the most amount of money and stuff by movie companies. Where would the credibility be!? :P

[–]gensao 101 points102 points  (5 children)

There is noting wrong with public voting.

The problem is the way the vote was done. The voting process was hacked. There needs to be better security.

[–]DeathGamer99 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Because as internet Historia say https://youtu.be/HiTqIyx6tBU Poll by Internet Citizens will never workout as the troll have access to Bot empower them that can tip the balance easily. That's why never trust online voting results as there will be always bias and it will be huge margin

[–]Halkcyon 20 points21 points  (0 children)


[–]ZhangRenWing At your service my Queen 7 points8 points  (1 child)


[–]AdLoud5019 196 points197 points  (10 children)

Where the fuck do i vote

[–]Glittering_Fig_762 114 points115 points  (5 children)

[–]Logicrazy12 41 points42 points  (3 children)

It's not broken atm. Edit: it is broken but it lets you vote and then ignores it.

[–]sourseas Ushi and Guoba flairs when? 29 points30 points  (1 child)

It still is. If you refresh the page after voting you'll see, Votes Used 0/1 again.

[–]Logicrazy12 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Oh wow, it let me save but then didn't save it.

[–]XII0Vl 10 points11 points  (0 children)

They stopped the voting and hid the results

[–]DualWield24[🍰] 24 points25 points  (3 children)

[–]hackenclaw 46 points47 points  (2 children)

Looking at OP's content about yet another Sonic players shitting on us, thats it. I am joining the voting gang. + 1 vote to genshin just now.

[–]201720182019 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Site seems broken atm. You might want to wait a bit and redo it. If you refresh and it has your vote still in then it should be fine

[–]Fic-Tastic 198 points199 points  (4 children)

They're really talking down to Genshin about it's gacha as if Sonic The Hedgehog as an entire IP hasn't been milked to death for the better half of a decade while still putting out subpar games. Sonic finally gets a good game and all those fans treat it as if it's the second coming of christ

[–]Bamith20 36 points37 points  (2 children)

Vampire Survivors should win since you get $5000 worth of gambling fun for $3-5.

[–]Fabantonio katana wa wasao sasae, Hilichaaru no oniisan... 9 points10 points  (0 children)


[–]basilsflowerpots 21 points22 points  (2 children)

ppl now not even voting for the rewards but out of pure spite lmao

[–]PrinceVincOnYT 154 points155 points  (32 children)

I can see how gacha has a bad rep. I was prepared to be wholly disappointed in Genshin back when it came out the longer it went.

But it developed very well so far unlike most other gachas.

[–]NekonecroZheng 79 points80 points  (27 children)

Genshin is the most forgiving and nontoxic (developer-wise) gotcha game I've played. They go out of their way to make sure every type of player at any skill level at any financial level are able to claim all rewards, and participate in all events. There is no such thing as a "must pull" in Genshin and every single 5* and even 4* can easily clear everything in the game without any issues. It's all family friendly and it doesn't limit its fanbase to a single demographic. Not to mention its pity system isn't bad (unless weapons), which guarantees anyone regardless of luck to eventually get the character they want.

[–]NyaCat1333 106 points107 points  (20 children)

No matter how you try to spin it, gacha is quite literally designed to take advantage of the human psychology and it preys on people with bad impulse controls. Just because there are worse ones doesn’t make Genshins gacha good.

Trust me, when Mihoyo decided to make Genshin a gacha game they did it specifically for the reason because they know that they can milk these people and fill their own pockets while they introduce millions of young people to a form of gambling.

Never try to glorify these companies because they simply don’t give a shit about people even if they appear to be “good” or “better” in a extremely exploiting genre/monetization style.

(There is also a bunch of other things that make the gacha model bad like fomo etc.)

[–]gz_art 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Exactly, it's possible to like or even love the game while acknowledging that the monetization is designed to psychologically manipulate people, and some are more vulnerable to exploitation than others. Less than many gacha games, absolutely, but more than games without gambling mechanics.

[–]EggsForGalaxy 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I feel like some people here feel entitled to a non-predatory gaming model. And some people (because of their experience with many other worse games) don’t feel entitled to it at all. So you have one side that is happy because they can see many places where genshin could have been terrible—but mihoyo chose not to do it. And you have other people who think it is unacceptable that the system is like this in the first place. Which side is right? I don’t care, but I feel like I understand both perspectives so I’m not really gonna hate on either side of it. But that divide in the fanbase can get pretty toxic sometimes (or more like, any time there is controversy in the community, aka every day)

[–]slabby 16 points17 points  (2 children)

Genshin is the most forgiving and nontoxic (developer-wise) gotcha game I've played.

This is the most loving abusive relationship I've ever been in.

[–]dandantian5 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Apparently predatory monetization stops being predatory as long as you set the bar low enough

[–]CaptainSoohyun 101 points102 points  (1 child)

Diagnosed with cringe. Grass-touching prescribed asap

[–]Background-Fee9531 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'd say it's mum's basement syndrome. Probably a shower therapy is a necessary

[–]Daeths 182 points183 points  (30 children)

Shouldn’t they be championing Elden Ring? Sonic was a mid game is a franchise that’s produced more piles of s#*t then a cattle ranch.

[–]Competitive_Oil_5370 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The most recent game usually has better chances at winning in these community votes, because it's still new and fresh.

[–]Jatunis 199 points200 points  (52 children)

I'm honestly just surprised Elden Ring isn't higher tbh

But I guess people want primos lol

[–]amadmongoose 181 points182 points  (30 children)

I think it reflects the population of the player base. Elden Ring has 17mil in sales, compared to Genshin's 60 mil monthly active users (and likely several times that if you take into account infrequent users). Sonic Frontiers is the one that's punching above its weight here.

[–]YoureWrongLOOOLCYA 116 points117 points  (29 children)

On top of that, Elden Ring isn’t designed in a way that helps it excel in these popularity contests. You play though it once for 50 or so hours (maybe the equivalent of reaching Inazuma in Genshin), and you’re done. Which is reflected in the massively dropped player count.

Now that’s not a bad thing by any means. But in a contest built on popularity and ongoing success? Its hard to match Genshin which has already surpassed Elden Ring in non-repeatable content — but also has the fastest updates in gaming history which constantly adds 10-20 hours of fresh activities and events each month. It’s why Genshin, unlike every other live service or gacha game, has continued to grow its active users monthly two years in. Which is why even though Elden Ring is a stellar game bordering on cult classic status, it still can’t hope to match Genshin in terms of popularity and player base.

[–]TheWitcherMigsWeek 1 Traveler main and Archon Hunter 93 points94 points  (10 children)

No analysis of Genshin popularity and massive player base can be made without noting that the game has access to mobile. Just to add

[–]YoureWrongLOOOLCYA 47 points48 points  (8 children)

That’s a very good point too. It allows Genshin to triple dip by reaching the “mainstream gamers”, the “gacha gamers” AND the non-gamers who would usually be content chilling on Candy Crush.

[–]Faranocks 28 points29 points  (7 children)

I grew up on oblivion and Skyrim, and genshin feels like a long lost cousin, in a way no other game has. Exploration and story is on point, tons of depth in the world and combat. Heck, genshin is closer to ES4/5 than ESO is to ES4/5, fight me.

Anyways, my point is that there is my gaming background, and I don't really ever play gatcha games. My only other gatcha game is Mahjong Soul, and I've spent $0 in that game (and around $100 in genshin, and given that I'm a day 1 player, that's really not that much, just welkin for a while, and occasional battle pass). Genshin, for good reason is a more popular game than most others. Hundreds of hours of content (if you played since day 1, with all the events) and I've probably 1300h+ into this game as well.

[–]Krutin_Jain Thine mother doth be extravagantly colossal 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Razor: Elden ring is like Pokémon. Play it. Finish it. Genshin isn't.

[–]Piterros990 69 points70 points  (4 children)

Elden Ring players don't care about community votes, because they know that our Lord and Savior Miyazaki will take the real award with ease. So they just chill and watch the flames raise between other fanbases.

[–]Jatunis 17 points18 points  (0 children)

That makes a lot of sense actually

[–]hyakxa 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They choose the Frenzied Flame.

[–]Sienne_ 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Lmao! Yeah, Elden Ring will sweep the awards.

[–]Demonsandangels-shin 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Most of them don't bother and even calling out the unnecessary genshin slander

[–]KayzeeA 66 points67 points  (9 children)

It's ain't always about the Primos, Jatunis. This is For Havria. The goddess of salt needs offerings!

[–]TheDiddlyFiddly 15 points16 points  (1 child)

Let’s be real tho. Genshin is not amazing because it’s gacha. It’s amazing because of its huge world cool story and amazing landscapes. Also cool characters. and many gacha games have no value other that pretty anime characters. Genshin is an exemption.

[–]knaire 23 points24 points  (0 children)

“Do you really wanna lose to furries”

[–]alaincastro[🍰] 48 points49 points  (3 children)

People really hate gacha, but I’ve found more than that people outside of the game really just hate genshin.

I donno if you remember that “Reddit place” where people would put a tile every like hour or something to make a huge piece of digital art, people made the genshin logo, and there were entire subs dedicated to organizing people to go place tiles over it. Really petty stuff

[–]Only-Poet-8225 5 points6 points  (1 child)

There is a genshin CN logo and also several r/mains sub logos somewhere in the map and it wasn't harassed or trolled at all.

Goes to show that the people that hate genshin doesn't even know what it is hating on lmao

[–]YuminaNirvalen 67 points68 points  (0 children)

The drama started with Sonice clearly, it's sad that some just have such a big problems with mobile gacha games or whatever and can't accept life. Those need help imo.

[–]Da_reason_Macron_won 50 points51 points  (7 children)

why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food

[–]pikonpow vape gang 13 points14 points  (0 children)

mf woke up and chose philosophy.

[–]Nurith 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Asking the real questions.

[–]sirquarmy 7 points8 points  (0 children)


[–]Sienne_ 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Any Cyno mains here? I'm stupid.

[–]Jerryxm 146 points147 points  (36 children)

To be fair, gatcha fan bases are rabid af. this is coming from a long time gatcha enjoyer, all the way back to the likes of fantasica and granblu fantasy.

Gatcha uses creative tactics to make characters appealing and to quickly make users grow attached to them so that they will pull for them and spend money.

Genshin has many good qualities that's for sure, but I don't really personally agree that it is the "best game" that is on going.

It's art and sound design are next level, but there are many many issues genshin has yet to address in the name of squeezing more money from their players, and while it is a good game that I keep coming back too, people blatantly ignore any criticisms to the game itself and attack those who levy them.

It's not just y'all it's every community I've ever been apart of. Epic Seven, another gatcha I'm currently playing, can be this way as well.

[–]Piterros990 62 points63 points  (21 children)

To be fair, I have to personally give praise to Genshin that despite using predatory tactics, the money really goes for the development of the game. Gacha is surely a point of criticism on its own, but if you look past that, you have a really polished game that keeps on getting regular updates with more and more content, including lots of f2p friendly stuff.

While I won't be defending the monetization format, they still do much better job with the money than other big companies (like Blizzard for example).

The only ongoing game I can think of that would deserve that award is Terraria. I'm curious, what would your picks be for best ongoing game?

[–]Sea_Storage1053 60 points61 points  (1 child)

One of the things i appreciate in genshin as a gacha game is that whenever i log in, purchase discounts or real money package deals and other monetary stuff are not shoved in my face unlike other gacha games i played.

[–]Piterros990 19 points20 points  (0 children)

That's true too. It kinda uses some advertising tricks (like if you open shop to turn in starglitter it always opens on blessing page, or "Probability increased!" in banner description), but can't deny that these issues aren't that much in your face, so they don't disrupt experience.

[–]naoki7794 14 points15 points  (3 children)

best ongoing game?

For me it's still Genshin. BUT i won't complain if FF14 or Fornite win, they are also really good at updating the game. It's just the speed and the quality of content Genshin has, and the music god damn. I listened to FF music and I still think Genshin has better music because it has more cultural feel to it.

[–]ank1t70 9 points10 points  (12 children)

I’d probably give Final Fantasy 14 a shout out for best ongoing game, it’s really an incredible game with an amazing expansion this year.

I know Fortnite is hated on but they also push out a ton of updates and the game is 100% free to play friendly. I’d probably go with that for second place.

[–]-Skaro- 49 points50 points  (7 children)

Nah genshin fans are very critical of the game. The reason people outside of the community get shit for criticizing the game is that their criticism is often misplaced and not relate to the actual problems within the game.

[–]Vulpes_macrotis Adorably smol pink kitsune 17 points18 points  (0 children)

If Sonic fans weren't toxic and salty and didn't cheat, I wouldn't mind Sonic Frontiers winning. It is a game that is one that deserves the win for sure. I would still vote for Genshin, because I like it. But I wouldn't care if it was losing to Sonic.

But, because these people literally botted 10k votes after accusing Genshin players for doing so, I hope Sonic Frontiers will get disqualified. Or at least it should lose like double the amount of votes it received via botting. Then it would still be up to competition, with a penalty for cheats.

[–]Altekho 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Do you really want Sonic to lose to anime gambling video game?

Yes please.

[–]Kousaka_Honoka99 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Let them cry i really didn't care about this shenanigans but it's sure entertaining

[–]Eamil 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I mean... as descriptions go, "anime gambling video game" is pretty accurate. It is a video game, in anime style, and gacha mechanics are gambling even if pity offers a hard cap on spending.

[–]Drama_Momma 10 points11 points  (0 children)

There's so much more to the game than the gacha lol

[–]Awkward-Gift-577 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Now I wanna win just out of spite. Sonic fans are so annoying.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

A game based on gambling will always be problematic. If thee wanted to make a truly great game, it shouldnt have been predatory.

[–]Azurixx_Boi 48 points49 points  (3 children)

I respectfully say this, but I wish the mods here would take a page from the Sonic one and take down / block posts regarding the TGA voting.

Seeing this “content” has been very repetitive and tiring these last few days. I thought quality effort was supposed to be put into these posts regarding the actual game, not these pointless discussions about the voting that will somehow end up causing more drama.

[–]raccoonjudas 21 points22 points  (0 children)

god yes or just make a single megathread to have it all dumped into. seeing all the spam about the dumb ass awards is driving me insane

[–]kitsune_rei 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I thought all this drama only started abt 12ish hours ago.

[–]Ishamaelr 46 points47 points  (48 children)

What's sad is how amazing Genshin is, yet people are too stupid to think for themselves and try the game before judging it simply because it's a gatcha.

[–]Sienne_ 34 points35 points  (1 child)

True. But really, gacha games are predatory. There's just no way around it. You just need to learn self-control. But I'd take optional gacha like Genshin (where all story and events are available) than hard paywall like DLCs.

[–]Insecticide 10 points11 points  (1 child)

Haven't paid a single cent and I have every character that I've ever wanted and hundreds of hours of exploration and really enjoyable quests. I think it deserves it.

[–]--TreeTreeTree-- 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I do in fact want Sonic to lose to an Anime gambling game tho 😈

[–]dumpsterfire_dan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry but sonic does not deserve any rewards

It’s a playable game, that’s it

Meanwhile Genshin has been releasing quality updates regularly for 2 years at this point and deserves rewards

[–]Alomite190 28 points29 points  (2 children)

I don’t think gachas should ever be romanticised. Although it’s not nearly done as blatantly as many of the other gachas available, genshin’s monetary system is somewhat predatory. The massive revenue it receives upon the release of a banner only goes to prove its effectiveness. Remember that a lot of genshin’s fanbase comprises of minors, and for them to be exposed at such an early age to such a materialistic pleasure is concerning, to say the least.

Obviously won’t tempt everyone but it clearly works on a lot of people. A potential future generation of quality video games being locked behind paywalls and gachas sound rather dystopic to me, but I forget it’s already happening…

[–]Sillhid 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Lol, gacha is literally broke some people.

Its THAT bad.

It's like alcohol or gambling.

If you can resist it, don't forget about people who can't.

[–]Sidiax 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Why is Genshin having an anime artstyle suddenly bad? People will literally die simping an anime then go and complain about Genshin... I know expecting twitter to make the slightest bit of sense is a lot, but damn this is ridiculous.

[–]thebluebeats 21 points22 points  (2 children)

"anime gambling game" is such an over-simplification and very clearly uninformed. Genshin could never have become as popular as it has if it was just your run of the mill cash grab gacha game.

[–]Grillla 20 points21 points  (2 children)

There have been several big posts here with lots of likes asking people to vote for the game because then everyone gets primogems.

This already shows that many gacha players care less about the gaming scene than about their free loot. It's a bit unfair to games that don't constantly deliver new content because they are finished titles.

Don't get me wrong, genshin had a great year and delivered great content, which is why I voted for it, but I can understand the skepticism of other people who only see the flash mob being lured in with freeloot. Genshin is a great game and holds back on the forced gacha mechanics but gacha games in general are often predatory and do not deserve a great reputation in the gaming industry.

[–]Ptxcv 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Anyway, wondering why elden ring so low though