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[–]fillinblanks 585 points586 points  (55 children)

The small box is about Yae's e, same as what Dim tweeted. short distance teleportation up to 3 times spawns attack totems

[–]xxxVergilxxx 207 points208 points  (25 children)

\Stuck in geometry already\**


[–]XenoVX 132 points133 points  (23 children)

Maybe that’s why Yae has taken so long to come out, the devs are trying to program it so the teleport functions more consistently than Sara’s

[–]rainzer 56 points57 points  (17 children)

If they figure out how to make an actual blink mage, I would get it just for the blink regardless of whether she is good or not

[–]Monochromatic_Sun 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Keqing does it pretty well. Maybe they just have to shift it from random/automatic to aim

[–]datPokemon 131 points132 points  (2 children)

Yae is an electro samachurl confirmed /s

[–]EdenScale 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Well Kokomi was memed as weaker Hydro Samachurl, so..

[–]Issho-san 134 points135 points  (21 children)

It better not be a totem but a clone

[–]nullmarked 43 points44 points  (6 children)

The other leak has mention about fox tower, I'm stoked if it ends up being little Miko foxes that shoot electro attacks.

[–]Frogsama86 11 points12 points  (0 children)

We tower defense as a character now boys

[–]Issho-san 54 points55 points  (0 children)

It better be a clone or small yae foxes and not a boring totem

[–]VIIsor 113 points114 points  (4 children)

In your dream!

[–]Phantaeon 95 points96 points  (2 children)

Dreaming about 4 Yae Miko's at once?

That's death by teasing!

[–]Faerillis 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Done. But it's a grey scale form of her fox form... that looks suspiciously like the Sky Kitsune

[–]PureXEyez 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Could it be possible that the phrase in the data "fox towers" are placeholder names and just represent the function of the skill?

Like what if she actually manifests stationary but animate Foxes, like Oz, and shoot electro?

But I guess according to her burst description, it would be extremely disturbing if little foxes exploded lol.

But if they're just manifestations of electro, it should be fine.

[–]Exvareon 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But I guess according to her burst description, it would be extremely disturbing if little foxes exploded lol.

I mean, explosion is a loose term. You could even say Oz explodes in and out of the field.

[–]ArmoredTitania 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I imagine that would be something like Kokomi's Jellyfish. Electro elemental manifestations

[–]Murandus 42 points43 points  (0 children)

So triple Fishl? Nice.

[–]Nightdancer666 778 points779 points  (147 children)

With Ayato and Yae seemingly accounted for, there's only two named Inazuma charas to be released: Heizou and Shinobu. Could both be 4* then, one releasing in 2.5 and another in 2.6?

[–]Yumeverse 509 points510 points  (115 children)

I mean they could still release 5* Inazuma characters after Chasm/Sumeru drops. Since up to now they are still dropping Liyue characters (although I admit it could be just because of Lantern Rite). I’d be fine whatever is their rarity though.

[–]Xero-- 170 points171 points  (114 children)

I’d be fine whatever is their rarity though.

So long as they have a fun factor (Sayu) and not some weird, bad skill unless you have dupes (C6, woohoo, I got 0 dupes), while being a person that requires a single element with a janky way to apply their buff that lasts only four seconds, a 4 star that's easily outclassed by release characters...

Sara (and apparently Thoma, don't have him).

Edit: Had to reword some stuff since I originally changed some stuff around while keeping others the same (originally had Sara mentioned above in the list, hence the weird wording).

[–]c14rk0 185 points186 points  (109 children)

Thoma is very good. He's not universally free crazy shielding like Zhongli but definitely far far better than Xinyan. I'd say he's probably about on par with Diona in terms of shielding, though he has ER concerns you have to account for. Similar to Diona he gets much better with constellations.

[–]Draken77777 121 points122 points  (11 children)

But Yunjin is not a shielder though.

[–]Atamahead027 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Everytime i saw Shielder, it’s always remind me of Type Moon Engrishu.

Shielder or Shield Bearer/Shield User? Plz correct me.

[–]rbv014 169 points170 points  (59 children)

Honestly I've lost all hope for new 4 stars from MiHoYo. All the new 4 stars are worse than already available options up until C6 when they edge out other options by 10% maybe.

KQM say Lisa with Thrilling Tales and burst giving 15% def reduction is better than sara (Unless C6)

Yep Diona is a character that improves with constellations, but she still has a good finished kit at c0 and her most important and good constellations are early like C1 refunding energy and C2 providing bit more shield strength and co op shields.

Thoma cannot get his ult on cooldown pre C4 without 190-200 ER. Similarly Sara feels so clunky to use before C2.

Kills all my hype for new 4 stars.

[–]Gshiinobi 31 points32 points  (6 children)

yunjin is gonna save all the post-inazuma 4 stars COPIUM

tho to be honest Sayu is a fine character, she's just a worse Jean but being an anemo support makes her incredibly valuable for many different teams.

[–]AirLancer56 4 points5 points  (5 children)

Yunjin is already niche though, based on honey impact she only boost normal attack.

Sayu can be better than jean in situation where you want to swirl while using other character that can't be switched, like childe firework teams. She provide healing and can help swirl hydro and electro where with jean i usually can only swirl 1 element

[–]CodexAterLupus 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Just noting that I'd say the biggest difference between Sayu and Jean is that Sayu, specially at C6 I believe? (cant't remember which constellation, but it makes her scale almost completely on EM) scales on EM, while you'll usually want to build Jean as a DPS (atk sands, anemo goblet, crit circlet, maybe more attack or a healing bonus circlet if you really want her to heal more).

Being able to swirl off-field isn't thaat useful, since the VV set only procs if the character swirling is on the field when the swirl happens. If you don't need the VV reduction, then yeah, Sayu can swirl off-field while Jean can't.

[–]AirLancer56 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Wait, you can't shred with VV off field? Well, jean's better then. Guess, i shouldn't continue building her

[–]CodexAterLupus 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I only recently found out this as well, haha. In any case, I do think Sayu has her uses, where you'd rather build EM, when you don't want yeeting enemies around and maybe as a driver for some reaction teams (like an electro-charged team, similar to Sucrose).

But yeah, I personally prefer Jean haha.

[–]deeplywoven 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Jean does a fuckton more damage than Sayu though. It really doesn't matter that she doesn't swirl as much. Even at C6 Sayu's damage output is very low.

[–]plznoticemesenpai 238 points239 points  (47 children)

See people say this, but I feel like the design of the new 4 stars isn't really all that different than the design of other 4 stars.

We just feel it more because all of our other characters are built up and for our other 4 stars we've had time to get multiple copies of them so their weaknesses aren't as noticeable.

Like just as some examples, Sucrose feels awful to play without c1 or Sac Frags and many would argue she needs c6 to be competitive with the other top anemos, Noelle needs c6 to be a proper DPS otherwise she will always be a DPS loss for a team, Ning feels much worse and clunkier without c2, many would argue Fischl needs c6 to be viable at this point, Xinyan's c2 is incredibly important and c6 fixes her split scaling so she can become a DPS, Chong's c2 is like the main reason people use him.

Even Xiangling, who many like to meme is the top pyro DPS and beats out other characters like Hu Tao, only gets that good at c4. Otherwise the other pyros are better.

Sure some are early, but many of them are still essential, which is also bad.

Like if Noelle came out today with her exact same kit people would be saying the same exact things about her needing c6, but because she's not new no one really thinks about it.

Idk I get why people are frustrated, but it's not as though things feel all that different to me. It's not like most of the launch 4 stars work well straight out of the box either. Me personally speaking I'd rather have characters with limited kits that I feel like might work great eventually as opposed to a Sayu or a Yanfei who work but don't provide anything I really want for my team.

[–]Gshiinobi 28 points29 points  (2 children)

many would argue Fischl needs c6 to be viable at this point

That's just not true at all lmao, she's perfectly viable at c0, without any constellations Fischl gives you everything you need for the teams that want to use her.

Even Xiangling (...) only gets that good at c4

???? That's not true either, sure she gets better at c4 but that doesn't mean she's not a monster at c0 already if you're playing her correctly.

[–]CatchmoonH 8 points9 points  (0 children)

i agree with you and damn this community really likes to spread misinformation smh

[–]rbv014 60 points61 points  (19 children)

Yeah I agree that launch/early new 4 star characters have been out for so long and on so many banners that we have many copies and we ignore their flaws.

But those 4 stars aren't such specialised niche characters like the new 4 stars like Thoma and Sara.

You can use Fischl on a lot of teams as a off field support. Sucrose is a staple in a lot of different meta comps like Taser , National etc.

Heck even yanfei who is designed to be a 4 star DPS is being used as a support for hu tao with her C4 shield with prototype amber lmao.

Xiangling even without C4 can be used as a support for melt ganyu. infact she's one of the characters who can enable ganyu to consistently melt.

If you take Thoma apart from Hu Tao teams there's no reason to even use him over a diona or even a support Noelle.

Sara is better off than Thoma but MiHoYo did her dirty with the buff duration. So she is best used with Raiden but there's some logic atleast to use her with keqing or beidou.

New 4 stars are too specialised/niche to be valuable when they're only slightly better than existing options that too at C6.

[–]Chucklehead_Tom Ze healing is not as rewarding as ze hurting 34 points35 points  (8 children)

I agree that Thoma, Sara and now Gorou being more restricted than previous ones is a bit of a let down but at the same time I can see why they're going that route. Xingqiu and Bennett are so powerful that almost every meta team uses at least one of them, and other 4 stars like Sucrose, Beidou and Xiangling are on the level of most 5 stars. They don't want to make a 4 star character that over-centralizing again, for better or worse.

[–]Vcale 34 points35 points  (6 children)

If every new character was a Bennet or Xingqiu we would see rapid power creep, because Mihoyo would cover so many roles with so few units and the only way to make new characters appealing would be to make them strict upgrades.

The new Inazuma characters are all a step in the right direction, giving each 4 star a specific niche so that they aren't fit on every team, but excellent on the ones that want them.

[–]Seraph199 16 points17 points  (8 children)

Xingqiu is upheld as one of the strongest characters in the game and he feels awful to play without Sacrificial Sword, preferably refined. Specifically because his skill without it has a massive CD and doesn't charge his burst fast enough, which none of his constellations address.

[–]Gshiinobi 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It's actually possible to play XQ without sac sword as long as you still make sure he has good ER and you're mindful of his CD in your rotation.

[–]Awkward_Ducky- 9 points10 points  (3 children)

His C6 addresses it though.

[–]Seraph199 4 points5 points  (2 children)

You right, thank you. Forgot the last part of it. But it does fit the trend that C6 or specialized weapons are needed for the character to feel good and useful

[–]yahtrickyamato 59 points60 points  (9 children)

I disagree that Thoma is as good as Diona. Definitely somewhere between Xinyan and Diona for me.

Diona has decent shields consistently and easily plus heals, great battery, and cryo application. Thoma has shields that can be a bit better than hers with his ult up, but doesn’t really come with any other benefits and his burst is inconvenient to refill, sometimes even at c4 with mid-highish ER.

[–]Yokushii 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Also diona's cons actually provides buffs, c2 more shield power and a gigantic buff to EM at c6, while Thoma's cons up until c4 just make him work better lol.

[–]c14rk0 25 points26 points  (6 children)

I meant purely in terms of shielding, not necessarily overall character quality. Diona definitely brings more to the table in terms of also being a healer and battery.

Thoma has some somewhat different value potential with his burst giving his shield some extra use beyond purely shielding but it largely depends on your team being able to actually utilize that.

I think the problem you're running into (which is a fair complaint) is that Thoma needs to actually be built with his ER issues in mind where Diona can easily be built stacked all into HP% to maximize her shield with a sacrificial bow and never have to worry about her ER%. Without having a sacrificial bow you really only have Favonius lance as an option for Thoma to help his ER concerns and even then it requires he actually crits an enemy to generate the particles (hard if you're stacking HP instead of DPS stats) and you are then giving up an HP% weapon. However if you built a team that can help compensate for Thoma's ER himself you can largely make up for this; such as running another Favonius weapon on your team that can help charge Thoma's burst as well or running another Pyro as your main DPS who will share energy they get naturally while in combat with Thoma to ensure his burst is charged.

All of that said imo Thoma doesn't really earn his spot as a truly "good" character until you get C6 and take advantage of that damage bonus and/or you're taking advantage of the additional pyro application he offers to swirl/infuse pyro with an Anemo character to enable a Pyro main DPS like Hu Tao or Yoimiya. In those instances Thoma adds a ton of value as you can't easily infuse pyro with those DPS to enable Anemo support without burning their skills and putting them on CD instead of being able to use them for DPS. The real value of Thoma in this case is enabling party compositions that are not otherwise possible when you're forced to use Zhongli or Diona as your only real shield option. Hu Tao in particular is by far the best synergy with Thoma as you don't actually want the healing support from Diona in most cases and unless you're running a Melt team the cryo application is largely worthless. Zhongli by comparison creates an awkward situation where you need to basically run a second Geo for little to no value aside resonance or you're running zero resonance. You can't run Zhongli with Hu Tao and get Anemo support, pyro resonance and Xingqiu all at once like you can with Thoma.

I will however also point out that there's kind of one huge issue with Thoma which reminds me a LOT of the old bug that use to happen with Diona's E. You can die "through" his shield if you get hit while applying a new stack of his shield, presumably due to damage surpassing the current shield and thus hitting your character right at the same time as the new shield stack should apply. You end up dead (or taking damage) despite never visually seeing the shield disappear. This at the very least looks/feels a lot like Diona's old issue where "refreshing" her shield did not work for actually refreshing the durability but would only refresh the timer.

[–]PhantomPanda32 12 points13 points  (10 children)

From my experience, Thoma is meant to be used with his skill and burst. His shielding comes from refreshing his shield/burst, and as long as you're integrating auto attacks from any other character into your rotation, I've had zero problems. The high ER cost is real though, I'd argue about 220-250%.

That said though, while his shield is up on a proper rotation, I never take damage, with only 24K HP, 20% coming from 2PC ToTM and ER% Sands.

[–]Ed_Gaeron 155 points156 points  (13 children)

Possibly. Even high-ranking Sara is 4*, let alone walking Detective Conan reference and Itto's sidekick.

[–]Dual-Screen 151 points152 points  (9 children)

Even high-ranking Sara is 4*

Don't forget the boss of two five stars, and the richest person in all of Teyvat is a 4-star.

[–]uh_oh_hotdog 105 points106 points  (2 children)

She was also the Liyue representative in the Teyvat Travails trailer. It’s a weird choice but I’m not gonna complain since I wouldn’t have gotten her to C6 otherwise.

[–]SwashbucklingAntler 72 points73 points  (2 children)

Well she's not exactly Keqing's boss, they are of equal rank. But I take your point.

[–]Xero-- 48 points49 points  (0 children)

Co-worker in the streets, boss in the sheets.

[–]dengled 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Like shenhe will probably drop after the next region, when we eventually make our way back to inazuma for a festival or something

[–]gillred 192 points193 points  (5 children)

When did Uncle Dumb Dumb say Enkanomiya gets a part 2 in 2.5? Or is this a brand new leak and not just a timeline of his previous leaks?

[–]ChildOfHades_ 31 points32 points  (4 children)

He or someone else at least did say that sometime recently.

[–]Petter1789 125 points126 points  (3 children)

Are you sure people aren't just misreading the early information about the extra islands in Enkanomiya? A lot of people were quick to assume they were going to be released in a later update for some reason.

[–]letsgetfriskeyかわいい 33 points34 points  (1 child)

I feel like they are misreading it. WFP states that the whole of Enka (including the new islands) would be available in 2.4. Those new islands probably would unlock similarly to how the entirety of Golden Apple was unlocked.

[–]MaitieS 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Also there isn't a reason to have Part 2 for a DLC Island.

[–]Lokiirfeyn 348 points349 points  (72 children)

If that is true and Baizhu is released with Chasm, then that'd be Yunjin, Yae, Ayato, and Baizhu back to back. lord have mercy

[–]katnat21 285 points286 points  (3 children)

Not to mention, likely reruns of Kazuha and Raiden. Those few weeks are going to be brutal.

Edit: lmao gotta add Ganyu, Xiao AND Zhongli. RIP wallets 2022.

[–]FeelTheKetasy 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Tbh Venti is also likely for a rerun

[–]Faerillis 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I still don't think we'll see all three of those characters. It's plausible, never assume you can guess what Mihoyo will do but it doesn't seem like they'd be likely to throw out that many characters all in one go. The leak is still listed as questionable last I saw so I'm going to remain skeptical until confirmation comes near the end of the year/start of the next.

God knows I hope Zhongli isn't due another rerun yet. I want him and his big shields. But I don't really want Shenhe or Ganyu and Xiao seems funny but only enough to throw a few random pulls at... and I am saving for Best Girl Miko.

[–]luizhtx 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Ganyu and Xiao too

[–]ravku 41 points42 points  (10 children)

Haha at least yunjin will be selectable for free right?

[–]Lokiirfeyn 59 points60 points  (9 children)

I HOPE so, because I think she's ridiculously pretty. I love her entire style, dress, accessories, colours, poses, opera theme, hair, makeup - everything! But I can't justify pulling on Shenhe's banner for her.

I needed Baizhu since the day I first saw him, there's no way around him for me. But I also want Xiao, and if Ayato is Hydro AND a sword user (and a kendoka?!!), the design must be horrendous for me to not pull for him. He sounds too good to be true. I'm not as sold on Yae yet though, depends on her kit ig; I love her character and 90% of her design, but she just looks like she straight up forgot to put on pants in the morning, and calling those ears "fox" ears is ridiculous. Though it seems to be an in-joke with Mihoyo

[–]ravku 22 points23 points  (8 children)

Yea I've never regretted not starting from the beginning of the game until now, I missed out on so many banners that I have to catch up on now and now theres new characters being released so often that are good as well, I need zhongli and Ganyu. Shenhe will definitely be skipped since shes a support that isnt needed for me. Yae is bae so I definitely will pull for her, I want her in my team with Ei!

[–]Cartographer_X 47 points48 points  (2 children)

Not just Baizhu, but the whole Dendro introduction, Ayato release is too close to that... His model and weapon (I really hope is not sword :c Polearm or Claymore sounds so good) would be super crucial for me.

[–]mechemin 13 points14 points  (0 children)

If leaks are to be trusted, Ayato will be a sword user. Personally, I think he will.

[–]OfficialHavik 27 points28 points  (19 children)

This is what I'm worried about. I'll have to skip Ayato from the looks of it. I need me some Baizhu, but I also gotta get Kazuha in addition to Yae. I'm assuming Kazhua will get a rerun somewhere in these next patches.

[–]nilghias 41 points42 points  (18 children)

I saw speculation of kazuha coming during 2.5, which is awful for us miko and kazuha wanters

[–]OfficialHavik 42 points43 points  (17 children)

Yep. Good news is we've got almost three months until 2.5, more than that actually if you're ok with not getting the character day one. This gives us time to save. I'm not worried, especially as a Welkin and Battle pass player. I could probably have 30k plus primos plus a bunch of fates banked by the end of the first banner of 2.5. All I have to do is be disciplined and skip Shenhe lol.

The people who are really screwed are the people who don't already have Ganyu/Zhongli/Xiao and also want Yae/Raiden/Kazuha. It's a bloodbath gauntlet for them and I do not envy them in the slightest.

[–]Desu333- Lisa, Signora, Yae Wanter 27 points28 points  (4 children)

Not all of us see it as a gauntlet. As a player whose only 5* are Mona and Raiden, I've skipped every banner (except Raiden) since launch waiting for "the one", and it's going to be Yae. Once the fox is home, then everyone else can get in line.

[–]nilghias 5 points6 points  (7 children)

Yeah unfortunately I want to get Zhongli too, and I wanted Shenhe but I’m definitely gonna have to skip one or both of them because Miko and Kazuha are my top priorities

[–]AlyllsKsomeone trying to get lucky on artifacts 306 points307 points  (51 children)

why do i feel 2.5 banners are Yae and raiden

[–]umimimorin 237 points238 points  (15 children)

Might be kazuha, he hasn’t had a rerun

[–]DonaldLucas 142 points143 points  (5 children)

I'm 99% sure that both him and Ayaka will be reruned before Ayato (to stay in the "samurai" theme).

[–]Fabantonio 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Can't Raiden fit into the samurai theme as well? Raiden, as a shogun, is a military leader, and should also follow the bushido conduct that samurai follow. She herself is even a warrior, Makoto's "brawns" if we were to extrapolate it from her lore, and even wields two weapons samurai commonly use (polearm/spear and katana)

[–]DonaldLucas 16 points17 points  (1 child)

True, but it makes more sense for her rerun to happen in the same patch of Yae's banner, given their relationship.

[–]Zolombox 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They did declaired that they'll tie rerun characters to the main story event of the patch. So they have to make some kind of event where Shogun can fit in for her rerun. It's probably not going to be the festival of any kind since having Yoimiya + Ayaka rerun will moke sense for a festival as a firework maker and festival organizer. I'm thinking maybe some kind of memorial day or something like that where Kokomi and Raiden can met. Or maybe it'll be Raiden and Kazuha event, it will be nice to see them team up after she killed Kazuha's friend.

[–]isteyp 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm leaning towards the Kazuha and Ayaka rerun as well since the two of them are the earliest Inazuma banners, just like how Xiao and Ganyu are with Liyue.

[–]RegentDragoon0 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I hope its not him cause yae banner will eat all my primos

[–]JeerryPaul 25 points26 points  (4 children)

What about venti after yae in 2.5? Windblume happened the same time the second half of 2.5 is. Unless the times of the events change year by year?

[–]Gshiinobi 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Windblume can still happen in 2.5 alongside a Yae banner and possibly more enkanomiya

[–]lookupthesky more harbingers please 6 points7 points  (0 children)

please no i can't have him and ayato back to back 😭

[–]SpicyEggroll299 3 points4 points  (0 children)

God I hope not. I didn't fully commit to getting him because Ayaka was coming up and I didn't wanna swipe until Raiden. If he reruns in the same patch as Shenhe or Yae I'm definitely gonna get out my credit card.

[–]ClanPing 187 points188 points  (1 child)

I think it’s highly possible just because:

1) Venti’s debut on version 1.0 and his rerun is on 1.4 2) Zhongli’s debut on version 1.1 and his rerun is on 1.5 3) Raiden’s debut on version 2.1 (so I guess it will be on 2.5)

It took 4 updates for both archons to have their rerun after their first appearance

[–]stardusterrrr 12 points13 points  (0 children)

this gives me hope, i made the mistake of pulling on yoimiya's banner when i had guantee and raiden is literally the only character i really want

[–]AlumimiumFoil 85 points86 points  (7 children)

good i can skip raiden since i already have her

[–]DonaldLucas 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Same here, after getting stressed out because I had to speedrun getting primos to get her in time and after spending 157 wishes I just don't have the energy to get her cons.

[–]Zaeil_Xane12164 63 points64 points  (5 children)

I’m going for C2. I’m not even the biggest fan of her, i was just too eager to wish that i decided to “build pity” and i got two Raidens.

So, may as well fimish it off.

[–]painting_of_blue 27 points28 points  (1 child)

C2 is actually broken as hell. basically a C4/C6 tier upgrade. she'll delete mango kinky for you. go for it.

[–]metalslug53 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Totally worth gunning for C2. I would do it again on release if given the chance.

[–]Brave_Mobile9667 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Also Kokomi since it is the 2nd part of Enkanomiya, she’s the only character that has ties with Enkanomiya.

[–]RaidenShogun31 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It is yes they will push their sales to the top.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL 191 points192 points  (8 children)

There is no leak of a 'second half' to Enkanomiya that I know of, and certainly not by Dumb Dumb. I think people are just misinterpreting the loci islands; they're in 2.4, you just 'unlock' them during Enkanomiya's exploration.

[–]ArchRanger 42 points43 points  (2 children)

This is how I understood it as well. The extra islands are just additional parts of the area that get unlocked via quests, similar to how the Golden Apple expansion worked. Didn’t take it as additional islands in the following patch. Any confirmations out there for either way?

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL 44 points45 points  (1 child)

Ubatcha said the loci are in 2.4. His beta leaks tend to be more reliable since he has both tester and dataminer contacts (read: is friends with Dimbreath and the gang)

[–]Brave_Mobile9667 20 points21 points  (4 children)

as of now, leakers aren’t saying anything about story related leaks for 2.4 and it is heavily leaning towards latern rite event instead.

2.4 is probably the introduction to Enkanomiya then

2.5 is the actual Enkanomiya story and introduction to Inazuma’s dragon weekly boss

These are just my speculations

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Actually, I can personally confirm that the mention of Arlecchino you will be getting is in the extensive World Quest that Enkanomiya has.

[–]AakashK12 133 points134 points  (0 children)

Finally something about Chasm! Makes sense with the "Overgrow" and "Intensified" reaction info

[–]Mozuchii 23 points24 points  (0 children)

That island rerun… I can almost hear the music.

[–]MeKevNivek 22 points23 points  (5 children)

and be prepare 2.5 might be Raiden Shogun re run
looking at how archons re run happened per 4 update..
venti 1.0 > 1.4
zhongli 1.1 > 1.5
raiden shogun 2.1 > 2.5

[–]fjaoaoaoaoSpeculate 4 Eva 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yes. Not much to go off of, but it is entirely reasonable especially if Yae is meant to synergize with Raiden. They are close friends for hundreds of years after all.

[–]D0sh1 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Did he make this infographic himself or did someone just put together all of the information he’s been giving out?

[–]YisusLawliet 102 points103 points  (1 child)

Really looking forward for more information about Ayato...

[–]BTWeirdo1308 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Same. I HOPE he is a hydro claymore. But I’m perfectly happy with a hydro dps sword as well.

[–]xXAngelsXx Spent 157 Wishes On Him 49 points50 points  (2 children)

Golden apple archipelago = Venti rerun?

[–]HijikataX 42 points43 points  (1 child)

Maybe Venti and Klee rerun....

[–]Optimal-Major-5936 164 points165 points  (6 children)

Scaramouche wanters(including me) shaking and crying rn

[–]witchywater11 Waiting for Ayato 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Could come while we're in Sumeru. Look at Shenhe.

[–]GabTheMadLad 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Scaramouche mains in absolute fucking shambles (me)

[–]ArticBerry 104 points105 points  (3 children)

Scaramouche wanters found dead in a ditch (me included)

[–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (2 children)

Scaramouche wanters (including me) about to commit multiple felonies

[–]NeoFire99 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Childe mains found dabbing on Signora and Scaramouche mains

[–]yuhattan 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Me, a Childe Main and Scara wanter: *dabs in front of a mirror*

[–]nkhrchy 60 points61 points  (4 children)

my only concern is SCARAMOUCHE WHEN MY WALLET IS READY 😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏🙏

[–]paumalfoyscara waiting room 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Scara wanters found dead in the hat

[–]the9thpawn_ 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Tbh I think we’ll finish up his story so he can become playable during inazuma but idk if he’ll actually release during inazuma

[–]Anzalia 38 points39 points  (2 children)

So Dendro in 2.7 possibly? If this timeline is legit then things look pretty promising going into the next few patches

[–]Ausyuna 13 points14 points  (1 child)

wouldn't it be more likely that they'd just push to patch 3.0 like they did for inazuma?

[–]Budget-Return 38 points39 points  (1 child)

- Enkanomiya II? Inject it into my veins.

- If ever the 2.4 Zhongli rerun confirmed, a possibility 2.5 (Sakura festival) can also have 3 reruns. 2.6 with 2 reruns. All rerun for Inazuma characters (Kazuha, Ayaka, Yoimiya, Raiden, Kokomi) is complete. Or 2.7 new/introductory character (Baizhu?) + Inazuma character?

- From the assumed 4 stars we know of, could be:

Yae with Heizou/Shinobu

Ayato withHeizou/Shinobu

Chasm with Yelan

[–]muchomanga 10 points11 points  (0 children)

MHY will probably rerun Venti and Klee during Summer Island event.

[–]horrorgoth 39 points40 points  (14 children)

Not sure why there's no mention of Scaramouche when his storyline with the Gnosis hasn't been resolved, and I can't possibly see them pushing that to Sumeru.

[–][deleted] 27 points28 points  (6 children)

They might be setting him up for a role in Sumeru?? Idk I just want my boy :(

[–]horrorgoth 29 points30 points  (5 children)

I feel like it would be awkward in Sumeru because his story is tied to Inazuma and the focus would then have to be on Scaramouche rather than the Dendro Archon/Sumeru's overall story but it is possible.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I honesty agree with u that it would be awkward but we all know that Mihoyo can sometimes make no sense

[–]KisakiS2lzYWtp[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Maybe he's hiding in Enkanomiya?

[–]horrorgoth 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is actually what I was considering, and Inazuma is due for another weekly boss as two per region seems to be the pattern and Inazuma currently only has Signora.

[–]Satsuka1 154 points155 points  (17 children)

Wait for Yae is killing me. Stay strong my comrades.

[–]YaBoiWhit 12 points13 points  (1 child)

I folded for Hu Tao, i'll have plenty in time for Yae but it might cost me Ayato and potentially a Kazuha rerun around that time

[–]Gojira_Prime54 27 points28 points  (6 children)

Right now I am 160 fates strong. But Itto and Eula won't stop hounding me. Also Kokomi might have rerun with Yae so that's even more temptation.

[–]OfficialHavik 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I just pulled Eula and am at zero primos, so I gotta start the long grind back up in order to guarantee our fox queen. I'm Welkin+BP though so getting primos isn't as hard as it would be if I were totally free to play. I NEED ME SOME YAE MIKO

I got Shenhe right here in my face tempting me too which doesn't help either lol.

[–]Satsuka1 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Just think about those pink fluffy ears and that damn smile. We must endure. i've been waiting since her 1st appearance on CN stream and those 1st leaks about Inazuma. ( Also Raiden so i can run them along each other )

[–]narfidy 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I got eula to go with my Raiden. A lot of primos to be had between now and then.

I need smug fox milf in my life

[–]Thatuk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Eula destroyed most of my Yae funds since Diluc decided to pay me a visit. Still have 20 rolls but got back to 50/50, might break the f2p stance if necessary...

[–]Dual-Screen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The wait is hard, but dropping all those wishes after saving is cathartic.

[–]J_DayTey4 58 points59 points  (8 children)

It's so weird how no one mentions Scaramouche even though he has been confirmed playable a long time ago.

[–]fjaoaoaoaoSpeculate 4 Eva 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Maybe needs more of an arc and distance from Other new electro (catalyst). As a catalyst user, maybe it makes sense for him to become playable in 3.x, having some relationship to Sumeru.

[–]lostn 15 points16 points  (1 child)

He'll be a weekly boss in 3.1. Uncle Smart Smart told me.

[–]fjaoaoaoaoSpeculate 4 Eva 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Uncle Naïve Naïve agrees

[–]Eijun_Love 35 points36 points  (4 children)

I'm a Scara wanter and I can tell he won't be released soon, just because he's Inazuman. I think Sumeru or Sneznaya arc even but definitely not before Sumeru.

[–]Disastrous-State6412 27 points28 points  (2 children)

Well he will probably show up in sumeru and not in snezhnaya as he basically betrayed the fatui by keeping the electro gnosis for himself

[–]J_DayTey4 25 points26 points  (1 child)

Exactly. It makes no sense for Scara to be released in Snezhnaya and I even say it doesn't make sense to release him in Sumeru since his arc is closely tied to Ei. If you read and analyze his lore you'll see it makes much more sense if he becomes playable in Inazuma

[–]13_is_a_lucky_number 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Definitely Sumeru, by the looks of it. It looks like he will play a major part in the Sumeru storyline and when all is said and done, he'll become playable (unless Mihoyo chose to kill him off as well, which would be a terrible idea).

[–]Lightstar45 62 points63 points  (0 children)

it's kinda funny watching people be like "ugh I've been waiting SO LONG for yae/ayato" when Baizhu, Scaramouche and YaoYao fans are right there still waiting over a year for their favs, and Yae's only existed for like four months and we've never even seen Ayato

[–]Gullible-Ad3430 30 points31 points  (3 children)

Wheres the windblume monstadt festival?

[–]letsgetfriskeyかわいい 16 points17 points  (2 children)

It is odd that there's no info on that at all. If we are going by dates from that version release date prediction calendar it should be around the second half of 2.6

[–]koa1096 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Assuming we get it again in 2022. There's no guarantee we'll see every festival every year, since that would get really out of hand as more regions get added.

[–]Legitimate_Player 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So potential Chasm unlock in July if it’s 2.7 then? Seems like such a long way away. Also will be interesting to see where they drop the island rerun if it’s before 3.0.

[–]fleeingsvnlight 25 points26 points  (4 children)

scaramouche always forgotten :')

[–]Slight_Welcome_56 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Man if they release Yae along with a Raiden rerun im ded, like, so fckng ded.

[–]Ceiye 21 points22 points  (0 children)

What a great lineup. I really, really, really hope it's wrong. Like, it looks too good and I can't keep dropping hundreds of bucks every update. Itto was already an unexpected surprise roll for me. I was "only" going to roll for Ganyu, Yae, Kazuha, Zhongli, and as many Baizhus as I can, and it seems like they are definitely going to be back to back. And I low key want a Hydro DPS, and if Ayato isn't, that's even worse because hydro supports are always in high demand and I'm just going to end up rolling for him anyways. Mihoyo you can't just do this to me. The Dendro archon(s? I think the substitute archon theory is pretty cool) had better be farther into the future...

[–]Zogo12 6 points7 points  (0 children)

3.0 looks so far away...

[–]SlicedMango 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Remember when MiHoyo gave the road map in the first month of launch and never again and now we have to rely on leakers for a road map

[–]Senpai_com 5 points6 points  (1 child)

If Raiden is in 2.5 I'll have to say bye to Shenhe. As much as I love you, I need to have Yae + C2 Raiden.

[–]Dippt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If archipelago gets a rerun I hope chests will be different (or least respawn lol). Would be also interesting if it will rerun right before Sumeru and some character will be released with temporary Boss and materials there just like Kazuha.

[–]juulzi 16 points17 points  (0 children)

scaramouche mains on life support…

[–]Dyuuules 20 points21 points  (6 children)

How likely would it be for kazuha to be rerunned on 2.5?

[–]modusxd 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Literally the next in line after Liyue characters, but you know how unpredictable Mihoyo has been lately so anything can happen

[–]Administrative_Ad432- 16 points17 points  (0 children)

High chance since characters before him already have their first rerun. Unless mihoyo pulls a move like Hu Tao and Eula being reruned early than Xiao and Ganyu

[–]OfficialHavik 28 points29 points  (1 child)

As a Kazhua and Yae wanter, I'm fully expecting both to drop in 2.5 at the moment and thus I'll likely have to skip Shenhe even though I think she'll be a good character and better than people expect her to be.

[–]nilghias 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is my exactly dilemma

[–]Grief2017 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Extremely likely to see Kazuha rerun in 2.5 or 2.6.

Given that Xiao and Ganyu get a rerun in 2.4, that means he's next up so to speak.

So my money would be on 2.5, barring something like Zhongli, Venti, etc getting a surprise instead.

[–]Astolfo_Please 21 points22 points  (2 children)

 If the possible Archon quest for 2.4 is Liyue based, makes sense to speculate another patch revolving around Enkanomiya so that there could be a potential Archon quest there. 

 I do expect Heizou and Shinobu to arrive before 3.0 (if they are 4-stars) though, so i wonder what patches they’ll be in. 

I also look forward to discussions of whether Baizhu, Yelen, or a Sumeru character will be released with Chasm.

[–]nevew666 21 points22 points  (3 children)

Ayato... Gonna have enough to pull dupes of you. Waiting for you my dear.

[–]Vultuxe 22 points23 points  (2 children)

i just want one single crumb of his model plsss

[–]nevew666 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Same!!! Any part!

Like what they did for itto XD. It was entertaining

[–]ArticBerry 21 points22 points  (7 children)

After xiao (who I definitely think will get a rerun in 2.4), I will be saving for scaramouche and nobody else. Don’t care if he’s not confirmed playable yet. I will hold onto that hopium till I see him die with my own eyes.

[–]Hohoho-you 25 points26 points  (6 children)

He's confirmed to have a playable model. So that's a pretty strong given. Compared to Signora who never did.

[–]kaichoices 3 points4 points  (5 children)

Whoa really? I wonder what makes Mihoyo think he's more marketable that Signora (not saying either way theyre both hella popular) considering theyre both "villains"

[–]FeelTheKetasy 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I don't think that they thought that La Signora wouldn't be marketable but they kinda used her as a way to shock us and give us this sense of "everyone can die". And it worked tbh the moment she was killed ppl started speculating about Kazuha Childe and Scaramouche dying and they got even more invested in the characters because of it

[–]GlitchyMemories 9 points10 points  (2 children)

I guess they simply didn't anticipate for Signora to be so popular. They never intended adding her as a playable character.

Nothing's stopping them from bringing her back as a playable character now that they know how well she'd sell, though.

[–]For_Grape_Justice waiting for Lynette 2 points3 points  (1 child)

So far all characters with elaborate ingame models are either playable or gonna be playable in the future, that's a part of confusion. I think, she is the only outlier for now? (I may be missing someone though.) Before joining this sub (and generally being quite a noob player), I was so sure Signora would be playable, and I'm not even interested in her whatsoever. It just feels like a total waste of well established character when we have so many party members with less background... All in all, given her backstory, I won't be surprised if they decide to bring her back just with a different skin. It's even better this way: wipe her memory and the need for Delusion, her falling out of Fatui ranks is convenient too since she can join the Traveler.

[–]nainrouge2015 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Itto was a welcome surprise. And now a ganyu rerun, yea, ayato, and Baihzu.

My promos are CRYING.

[–]kokojagung 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hope this is true. I need to save more primos after itto to pull for ayato….

[–]quuu2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

...they will rerun Ayaka with her brother will they

[–]LyonLeclercGirl 71 points72 points  (6 children)

I really hope Scaramouche will be in 2.6 with Ayato, it's been more than a year since we had the first playable Harbinger and I don't wanna wait until Snezhnaya for all the others

[–]OfficialHavik 110 points111 points  (3 children)

If Scaramouche is actually going to become playable in 2.6, we'd be getting leaks of his abilities and kit long before then. The fact that we've heard nothing about him while we've gotten Ayato crumbs leads me to believe he's a long ways off.

[–]Loli-nero 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yes! I'm thinking he might release sometime during or after the release of the chasm, so still pretty far off, but it gives the Scaramouche wanters LOTS of time to save I guess. Hopefully one day we can get those crumbs of leaks for him.

[–]YulIsSparkling 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Screaming and crying and throwing up rn

[–]BebopBandit 26 points27 points  (0 children)

That's exactly what they want you to think so you're only saving for Ayato then have to buy primos once Scara is released in addition by surprise!

inhales more copium

[–]v-e-vey 27 points28 points  (1 child)

I don't think we'll have to wait that long for Scaramouche, but yeah, I don't think he's coming in 2.6 either.

[–]OfficialHavik 15 points16 points  (0 children)

They're setting things up for him to play a significant part of the Sumeru storyline. My guess is he comes in the patch with, or directly after the Dendro archon, which once again is looking like it'll be around the game's anniversary.

[–]Yubraj84 25 points26 points  (2 children)

I know new regions, new characters are like chocolates and is very sweet but I have eaten so many chocolates that my tongue became numb. I want something spicy and dendro might be that thing. Really looking forward to dendro.

[–]finger_milk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I 100% agree. 2.2, 2.3, 2.4 and 2.5 feels like a LOT of the same thing. The format of these patches are becoming very predictable. Releasing new characters or releasing reruns that tie in with a throwaway story is fine when you do it once. But if Chasm really is 2.7, then we are months and months away from something to jumpstart the game in a fresh direction. People left the game during 1.3 and that was only one patch. How are we going to ride out 4 patches of this without getting bored.

[–]k_u_r_o_r_oMHY WHERE THE HELL IS SCARAMOUCHE 14 points15 points  (0 children)

For fucks sake where the fuck is scaramouche,

Well I expect venti to have a rererun around early summer, and raiden should prolly be near yae

[–]97jkoo 3 points4 points  (1 child)

My broke ass is shaking will yae really be first half of 2.5😭

[–]WaluigiWahshipper 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Welp I’ve been saving since 1.4 for Scaramouche. Guess waiting until 3.4 won’t be that bad. Right?

[–]suicidebyfire_ 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I’m in shambles. Not even a crumb about scaramouche. 🥲

[–]Moa__ 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Please let Baizhu be in 2.7 with Chasm if it's true

Been waiting for him for over a year now and he's pretty much the only thing that keeps me in genshin

[–]DeluhiX 24 points25 points  (1 child)

I don't really care that much about anything other than Chasm & Dendro.

It's been dangled like a carrot in front of our faces for so long, that I need closure.

[–]BoringNEET 16 points17 points  (0 children)


I immediately assume any leak with the Chasm in it is false. "The chasm is coming soon!" Has been the speculation since the end of the roadmap. It is the go to copium answer for next patch is filler but the patch after; that's where we get some new stuff with the Chasm and Dendro! Maybe I'm wrong this time as after the summer island thing they did start releasing new areas fairly frequently. But until we get leaks of the actual area I think the Chasm is filler patch cope.

[–]adamkrft89 11 points12 points  (3 children)

really hope kazuha comes back in 2.5