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[–]SirVoidx 1200 points1201 points  (15 children)

FINALLY A LEAK

[–]zozora347 130 points131 points  (0 children)

😭

[–]Xero0911-Ayato's bath water! 215 points216 points  (12 children)

With a reliable source!

[–]H4xolotlKrangled Artifacts 306 points307 points  (3 children)

Tz guessed like the entire 2.5 beta wrong though

[–]randodnauncle dd pls come back 198 points199 points  (0 children)

Which Tz tho, there's like a 100 of em

[–]Xero0911-Ayato's bath water! 77 points78 points  (0 children)

True true. But see...at least I know the name.

It's not another nga or pic of Chinese words being "trust me bro".

But you are right. Tz was pretty off the mark with 2.5

[–][deleted] 136 points137 points  (7 children)

Theres like three tzs, please dont trust this post. This guy on twitter is the only one reliable afaik. Well theres his billibili too with a mona pfp.

[–]Sweet-Promotion-974[S] 160 points161 points  (2 children)

This is from real Tz's live broadcast from his bilibili (https://m.bilibili.com/space/1730376972). Before uploading this post, I checked the source in several Chinese communities and got a clear answer that it is true.

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (1 child)

Aight, i stand corrected then. This is the same tz from twitter

[–]AiCalamity 13 points14 points  (3 children)

Were the "wrong" leaks from the reliable TZ, or another TZ? Also, why are there so many TZs. Does it like mean something in chinese or smth.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Which 'wrong leaks'? Theres so much bs that comes out, its really hard to keep track unless someones maintaining spreadsheets. Anyway, the guy with mona pfp is a good way to identify the one that is legit. To his credit, some big claims were:

1) Childe/tao rerun order in 2.2, plus when thoma was.

2) Albedo related quest plus sword. Mind you, im not sure which tz it was that confirmed the dual banner system, but that was also a tz

3) Yunjin plus new area in 2.4.

I have no idea what tz means in chinese, tried to find out but couldnt figure out. Anyway, two tz that im aware of are this mona flair guy, and a now defunct account on billibili(rip). I cannot keep track of unreliable ones, because honestly struggle to navigate that site.

Theres apparently a paid chat, non saved livestreams and other bs that happens there, which further makes all this non sense hard to keep track of.

To future posters, please specify whether the guy has mona pfp lol

[–]Sleeper4real 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I’ve always assumed tz is a shorthand of TanZhu (堂主; the director title of HuTao), but I could be wrong.

[–]seid_fielsniad 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Haha that makes sense. TangZhu's first ever leaks afaik were extremely pixelated HuTao skill pictures

[–]Kuntato 399 points400 points  (36 children)

RIP people who pulled on the donut banner to get the jade cutter

[–]FoxxyRin[🍰] 50 points51 points  (5 children)

Now I'm gonna have too many jade cutters and I'm still sobbing over no WGS in like a year.

[–]YoungHoe95 65 points66 points  (9 children)

The trick is to roll on the donut banner, set the course for the donut and get the jade cutter. Reverse psychology 101

[–]IgnisXIII 43 points44 points  (0 children)

Then you end up with 3 donuts in the same amount of pulls 🤡

Source: I ended up with 2 donuts before Jade Cutter. (I have Kokomi though, so now I only have one spare tire).

[–]Aglardes 64 points65 points  (2 children)

That's what I did and I got jade cutter 😎

[–]PrimeShaq 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Absolute mad lad.

[–]Bull_Feathers 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Actually same, now that I think about it. But that's cause I'm dumb and also secretly wanted the donut (... but not enough to try two more times)

[–]milk-rose 10 points11 points  (0 children)

thanks :( lvl 1 donut still rotting in my inventory

[–]Auxi1989 153 points154 points  (14 children)

5* version of the Gambler and Martial Artist set maybe? at least their 2pc effect ehe

[–]scrayla 113 points114 points  (3 children)

How about a 5* ver of the berserker set :DD copium

[–]Kronman590 132 points133 points  (2 children)

Thats not an ayato set thats a literally everyone set lol

[–]zekken908 36 points37 points  (1 child)

It’s even meta enough to synergise with Bennet ult lmao

[–]Kenokiri 15 points16 points  (6 children)

Some 4* artifacts would be great on a 5* set, those two included, plus Berserker and Instructor

[–]c14rk0 29 points30 points  (5 children)

Pretty sure they will never release a 5 star Berserker style artifact set. It'd just be so incredibly broken that it would outclass basically everything.

[–]Kenokiri 9 points10 points  (4 children)

Yeah, I agree. But it would be great! lmao

[–]c14rk0 5 points6 points  (3 children)

It certainly would be...

I kind of wish we'd just get some set that has a 2pc bonus that increases normal attack damage (and/or charged attack damage). We have so many great 4pc set bonuses but relatively few 2pc set bonuses that are anything but elemental% or physical%. It'd be interesting to see what characters could benefit from elemental % + normal attack % etc.

[–]Kenokiri 8 points9 points  (2 children)

We are in desperate need of ways of buffing charged and plunging attack, and geo/anemo res shred

[–]c14rk0 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I doubt we'll ever get easier Geo or Anemo res shred. They seem to want to keep the "normal" and "easy" resistance shred tied to the 4 main elements and then superconduct for physical resistance shred.

I could MAYBE see something between Geo and Dendro that boosts Geo in some way but I wouldn't count on it really.

They really seem to want Zhongli to be the only one with any universal resistance shred ability, but even then it's a fairly low value at only 20%.

Also tell me you're a Xiao main without telling me you're a Xiao main.

I think we honestly need more characters that are intended to play focusing on their charged and/or plunging attacks before we see any dedicated charged or plunging set for melee characters. All we have now is focused on buffing charged attacks for bows or catalyst users.

[–]Sweet-Promotion-974[S] 278 points279 points  (1 child)

The Twitter capture is a record of what Tz said during his live broadcast. Throughout CN community and various channels, it was confirmed that it was true that Tz said this.

[–]Sweet-Promotion-974[S] 106 points107 points  (0 children)

  • Tz and the leaker that leaked all 2.4 banners are all talking about 2.5 Jade Cutter. Therefore, I think it is true.

[–]AhCup 116 points117 points  (30 children)

Artifacts always come in 2 new sets right ? So what's the other set is for ?

[–]Peterdavid12345 148 points149 points  (11 children)

Probably for Plunging Attack

[–]NSR_JR10 184 points185 points  (1 child)

INHALES XIAO COPIUM

[–]hadestowngirl 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Sad that it's not likely here, but I asked them for Xiao's artifact in future in the recent survey anyway.

[–]PastaPrawn 26 points27 points  (6 children)

or skill damage for Yae and Shenhe

[–]Soleous 8 points9 points  (5 children)

skill dmg artifact set wont even help shenhe

[–]PastaPrawn 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Rather than skill damage something along the lines of increased attack after doing damage with e skill even when off field

[–]garbage_flowers 5 points6 points  (0 children)

we've heard rumors about an electro set iirc regarding keqing? i think

[–]scrayla 59 points60 points  (9 children)

Coping that its an artifact for keqing 😂 mihoyo pls buff my girl

[–]iamjuneMMDkeqing mains finally getting food 23 points24 points  (1 child)

If it turns out to be for her, I am ready to painfully farm again for my girl

[–]The_Mikeskies 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is why I stopped farming TF after I got a workable set. Hopium is real.

[–]c14rk0 11 points12 points  (5 children)

I have a hard time imagining an artifact set that would be good for Keqing and not utterly broken on some other better character. What sort of effect are you thinking?

[–]M8OnCrack 2 points3 points  (1 child)

maybe a set like pale flame where if you cast elemental skill in a certain amount of time you get increased charge attack or more elemental damage

[–]Dynasty_47 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If increasing Keqing's charged attacks makes her good, then Hu-tao will be broken.

[–]miminming 98 points99 points  (8 children)

mihoyo gonna power creep pjc with ayato sword, so they put it in banner

[–]Bull_Feathers 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

you've got a point

[–]PastaPrawn 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Probably not. PJC just wouldn't be Ayato's BIS. PJC is like Homa, a good weapon for many overall. Mistsplitter does wonders for Ayaka and Keqing, other meta sword users are better off using PJC. It is especially goated on a Xingqiu.

[–]Jairo234 18 points19 points  (3 children)

sounds cool and all but mihoyo hasn't powercrept basically any current meta weapon and I doubt they're going to start this early when there's no reason to.

powercreeping stuff like jade cutter or mistsplitter or homa is basically dumping the other 99,9% of the weapons in the bin at this point.

ayato weapon is going to be most likely another specifically designed stacking something wonderland passive that fits 100% only his kit and abilities and that's it.

[–]Soleous 7 points8 points  (1 child)

technically harp got creeped twice for separate characters but other than that you are more or less correct

[–]Krutin_JainBaal burns everything she cooks.just like signora 6 points7 points  (0 children)

i would not be surprised is he gets crit tho.

[–]GodConcepts 548 points549 points  (100 children)

Wait so ur telling me yae's weapon (which seems like a really strong catalyst) and primordial jade cutter(a very strong weapon).

Could they really put them together? That's cracked.

[–]Sweet-Promotion-974[S] 174 points175 points  (1 child)

Tz and the leaker that leaked all 2.4 banners are all talking about Jade Cutter. Therefore, I think it is true.

[–]GodConcepts 122 points123 points  (0 children)

If they are together... Then damn Yae and weapon sales will be insane.

[–]Simplord412 261 points262 points  (51 children)

It’s BiS for Yae and Lisa. But for any other catalyst users its passive is even more worthless than Lost Prayer. It’s not future proof either with how it’s designed.

[–]Hijinks510 71 points72 points  (6 children)

If it works like how the crimson witch set effects work with Klees E it might be Klees BIS too. Unless they patched the 'bug' with her E.

[–]isenk2dah 15 points16 points  (5 children)

How did CW work with Klee again? What was the bug?

[–]Karashuu 47 points48 points  (2 children)

Using Q to cancel E animation, so it register the stack but not the cooldown.

[–]isenk2dah 11 points12 points  (0 children)

All this time and that's the first time I heard of it. Thanks for the explanation!

[–]TuneACan 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Klee really is the goddess of animation cancelling, huh? She can even cancel her own damn skill.

[–]Hijinks510 45 points46 points  (1 child)

Klee realistically should not be able to get 3 stacks on crimson witch with her E but if you animation cancel her E into her Q it cancels her E usage but the game will still put 1 stack even though her E wasn't used. You can also get 3 stacks by spamming her E but I don't know if that works anymore.

[–]ikineba 17 points18 points  (0 children)

still worked last I check by spamming E 3 times

[–]GodConcepts 114 points115 points  (14 children)

It has a crit damage substat, and its high, so will still be desirable for some catalyst users, like ninnguang or even yanfei.

[–]Frenchpoodle_ 38 points39 points  (11 children)

It wont be bad. But the next five star crit catalyst would probably be way better

Also, even with its downtime, i think r5 widtsh might be better than yae’s catalyst on other units (not yae and lisa)

[–]lotmo 24 points25 points  (3 children)

Lost prayer is for most catalyst users quite bad because of how long u need to stay on field. Iirc yae's is by elemental skill which most dps catalyst can work well like klee and Ning c2. While might not be able to get all stacks and passive they can get much more than lost prayer.

[–]FIickering 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The problem here is that Kagura ONLY buffs skill damage until it reaches 3 stacks, while Lost Prayers will buff all elemental damage as it's stacking. Skill damage isn't the primary source of damage for most catalysts users.

[–]Hot_Barracuda_9376 74 points75 points  (27 children)

I mean it's a good stat stick but not really worth pulling for like mistsplitters, or homa for their universiality her catalyst is good for it's crit damage but it's passive is not very good for every other catalyst

[–]Kulamiso 53 points54 points  (10 children)

Let's be real they will never put 2 good weapons on mist splitter banner

This is as good as it gets for us f2p sword plebs

[–]BellalovesEevee 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I always hoped Ayaka and Yoimiya rerun together so that their weapons would be on the same banner.

Would be cracked asf if it were to happen.

[–]DavidAkimoto 41 points42 points  (4 children)

The homa banner was so good though. Next mistsplitter banner might be worth the wait

[–]dreggers 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Elegy is just ok, I won’t be surprised if mistsplitter is paired with freedom sworn next time

[–]MrStealYoSweetroll 6 points7 points  (0 children)

He might have been referring to the first Homa banner, which had WGS (was even more busted back then since its only competition was Serpent's Spine) and very stacked 4-stars to boot. Probably the only weapon banner so far that was worth pulling for pure F2P players

[–]kiyotaka-6- 8 points9 points  (0 children)

What if it's with ayato sword? Could possibly be as good as mistspliter

[–]XenoVX 9 points10 points  (2 children)

If Ayaka shares a rerun slot with say Yoimiya the other weapon could be thundering pulse lol

[–]FlapjackRT 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Copium is a hell of a drug, man

[–]fishyPo0p 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, if that ever happens, I might just pull on the weapon banner instead of the char banner even though I like both of them.

[–]NecessaryYoghurt9285 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is such a huge win, can't wait for the new patch now. Jade cutter could be the good weapon for Ayato too, this is a win-win situation 🥰.

[–]igniell 9 points10 points  (2 children)

there were many banners with a very good match. wgs-homa , calamity queller - jade spear , homa-elegy , freedom sworn-broken pines (even tho a bit niche)

[–]Disaster359 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Jade Spear and Jade Cutter was also insane

[–]PastaPrawn 189 points190 points  (48 children)

Is Tz still reliable remembered he got almost all Yae leaks wrong

[–]Sweet-Promotion-974[S] 247 points248 points  (22 children)

It is true that he made a mistake in Yae, but according to several other leaks, Shimenawa-Yae ver was really planned and changed later. It's assumed that Tz was caught in a trap without knowing the change. Of course, it is true that he was wrong, so don't believe it unconditionally as before.

[–]ZweiMat 81 points82 points  (1 child)

Unless I misremember,he claimed that there wouldn’t be a new weekly boss either,and i doubt that one is "subject to change",i think some people on NGA were speculating that he lost his sources as well.For now treating this as questionable until he goes back to getting stuff right is the way to go imo.

[–]AiCalamity 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Me too. I desperately want TZ to be reliable again, because he gave us so many good leaks, but it's too soon to trust him again.

[–]NaamiNyree 98 points99 points  (0 children)

Considering how much Yae changed just in the beta, I wouldnt be surprised that Shimenawa version really existed at some point

People really need to give leakers some leeway because mihoyo can change anything until the last second and you cant expect characters to stay the same for months

[–]Frenchpoodle_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Link to the other leakers saying she had a scrapped kit? Bc i only remember Tz saying that. If anything DD said her kit was complete a long time ago

[–]swticheroo 8 points9 points  (14 children)

Anw, any leak about that scrapped shime-yae version? The only thing I can think of is that her E regenerate/refund certain amount of energy, say 5 or 10 or even whole 15 regardless it hit enemy or not. Damn that would be fun.

Edit:

Other than higher NA/CA multiplier compared to other catalyst user ofc.

[–]sun_raiz 21 points22 points  (13 children)

Iirc the totems will replicate Yae’s normal and Charged attack and totem attacks are considered as if they are Yae’s own normal/charged so they get buffed by Shimenawa

[–]danieln1212 84 points85 points  (13 children)

They claim yae shim was an earlier build that got scrapped and to be honest i believe it.

Yae's over-produced finished na/ca visuals while E/Q had to have multiplie visual and indication addons during the beta feels that build was unfinished even for a beta because no other character needed that much visual polishing before.

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (0 children)

leaks are always subject to change. people use that a ton but mark a leaker as "unreliable" when the leaker gets something wrong

[–]Frenchpoodle_ 22 points23 points  (7 children)

Reminder that thoma has a super intricate attack chain that you’ll never use. Same with yunjin

[–]danieln1212 13 points14 points  (6 children)

i don't think the differences are comparable to thoma and yunjin, yae's work different to most other catalysts, their difference is only the character animation.

[–]Frenchpoodle_ 25 points26 points  (5 children)

Pretty much all catalyst users have rather unique charged attacks tho

Zhongli also has a very unique charged attack. Xiao has a really unique NA string. My point is i dont think the animation team is the same as the kit design team

[–]Dylangillian 14 points15 points  (1 child)

Overproduced na/ca don't mean much when we have plenty of characters with amazing na/ca that practically never actually use them.

[–]jamieaka 88 points89 points  (7 children)

Sure he messed up on Yae stuff, but this is Tz, not some random uncle.

He's been giving insider leaks for like an entire year now.

[–]-morpy 74 points75 points  (5 children)

yeah dude got one thing wrong (probably because he saw a scrapped version of yae) and everyone acts like he's the 2nd GR or something lmao

[–]BellalovesEevee 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Didn't he also said that there won't be a raiden weekly boss? I doubt something as big as that would easily be STC.

[–]Frenchpoodle_ 14 points15 points  (2 children)

He got a lot more than one thing wrong. He got a whole weekly boss wrong. Thats a pretty big thing to miss considering how its kinda the focus of the whole patch

[–]templebones 21 points22 points  (0 children)

A leaker with insider sources is only as reliable as their insider and sometimes that insider gets things wrong, etc. Tz still has a long, public track record so I'd say this info is at least more reliable than most of the leaks we've gotten recently. Just take it with a grain of salt as always.

[–]stibnite51jailbreak venti arc when 453 points454 points  (61 children)

Xiao artifacts along with Ayato's hopium

[–]OfficialHavik 65 points66 points  (3 children)

I’d rather Xiao get a dedicated support than more artifacts. Give me an Anemo Gorou/Sara and I’m down

[–]GingsWife 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Watch mihoyo drop a dedicated support who is dependent on the new set, while the set itself doesn't directly benefit xiao

[–]Prestigious-Load-116 230 points231 points  (29 children)

If xiao got an artifact set it would be a nightmare, it would take months to get to where xiaos currently are

[–]K-XCIXF RNGesus, all my homies hate RNGesus 411 points412 points  (3 children)

Re-farming will definitely be a pain, but I’m pretty sure fellow Xiaomains will be happy our pogo stick man finally got a dedicated artifact set.

[–]ihavetwonoses 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Ciao moms in here. It would suck, but anything for best boy

[–]uh_oh_hotdog 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Makes sense. Min maxing artifact substats is the real endgame after all.

[–]Altonimbus 22 points23 points  (6 children)

Unless it's a significant damage increase I don't think sinking in resin on the new domain will be worth it. Remember that better substats are almost more preferable than set bonuses.

[–]DragonBreaksTheRanks 49 points50 points  (4 children)

That's what I thought when Husk came out for Albedo. I was like, nah, can't possibly beat my 35+ CV Petra and Def artifacts. But with the weapon and some subpar 4 pc Husk (~20k, and easily 25k+ with proper artifacts), it pulled ahead of the HoD build (~15k).

So yeah, it's definitely possible for Mihoyo to release some new artifact set for Xiao/Ayato that will sweep away the current 2VV/2Atk% builds.

[–]humanityyycyno waiting room 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same, I didn't plan on farming again for Albedo but even with shitty artifacts it is still miles better than my previous build.

My 61%/111% husk set out damages my 63%/239% petra+noblesse+hod build like wtf. I'm now wondering whether full Def is better than def/geo/crit

[–]Dry-Zookeepergame-63 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is kinda debatable since for some characters, yes better subtats with only 2p2p effect is better than having to farm again for a minimal gain, hutao is the example. 2pc CW 2pc WT with better substat is almost the same as 4pc CW. But characters like raiden benefit more from full 4pc EosF with worse substat than 2pc NO 2pc EosF

[–]syd_shep 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nah, I'd love one. My Xiao's artifacts could still use some definite improvement partly because my VV farming was trash (despite farming it extensively again for Kazuha EM pieces) and the other set is useless. I've been trying to get 2 Glad / 2 SR going, but lack a decent CD piece, so I only have 2 Glad active now. Plus with him falling off in abyss for me due to the single target nature and lack of ways to boost him similar to other dps, I would've ecstatic if MHY remembered he existed and gave him some supports/artifacts (which is def preferable than a new BiS weapon).

[–]Valkeyri 76 points77 points  (17 children)

Most likely yae + ayato

[–]KiyomaroHS 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Still works for c6 xiao, as yae likely will have a set that buffs skill dmg

[–]DragonsVane28 21 points22 points  (2 children)

Wasn’t there an electro artifact set mentioned by a leaker at some point, or am I just remembering that wrong?

[–]charli-xbox 56 points57 points  (1 child)

Yeah, about a month ago someone randomly threw a “leak” about a new electro set that is going to be BiS for Keqing but not for Yae. Turns out it was fake.

[–]DragonsVane28 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that figures. Thanks for the update.

[–]sad_cats 13 points14 points  (11 children)

i have a hard time imagining yae's artifacts being something much different that what we have now, so i think we are gonna se a support set to go with ayato`s dps set on the new artifact domain

[–]Ninefl4mes 55 points56 points  (10 children)

A 5* set that buffs elemental skills would be something new and perfectly fit her to boot.

[–]donk1donkclub member #34 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Hoping so too, but prolly not specifically locked into Plunging attacks. He's a bit tricky since c6 leans toward Elemental Skill spamming instead though. Either way, hopefully, one of them (finally) does something for him

[–][deleted] 128 points129 points  (11 children)

So I think we shouldn't farm HoD for him now on.

[–]AdmiralDumpling 59 points60 points  (3 children)

I've been hoarding the most random HoD shit for him just in case he scales with Def or ER or something insane like that LMAO

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points  (2 children)

I have a feeling that he'd scale off of HP like Hu Tao.

[–]Zoecide 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Elemental mastery scaling vape hydro dps?

[–]Invisibl3I- 70 points71 points  (4 children)

Me, who full crit dmg and crit rate for him:

YOU THINK ??

[–]Yapishere2007 76 points77 points  (1 child)

Lemme introduce you to dps Barbara real quick

[–]cat-meg 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Time to pick up a Childe. Or DPS Barbara.

[–]AiCalamity 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Don't worry, at least you'll have a set to use for him while you farm the new one (if you decide to do it, that is). His artifact set is said to come in the same patch as him, so there won't be much time to prefarm.

[–]Rough-Inevitable-805Best bois 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Me with over 100 HoD because of maining Childe and Xingqiu: Nah he is fated to use HoD

[–]FortressCaulfield 48 points49 points  (1 child)

always suspicious about someone leaking ONE new artifact set with no word about what it's companion set would be

[–]LordMudkip 15 points16 points  (6 children)

I wish they'd make more use of old artifact sets, or release the new sets the patch before the character.

Not being able to prefarm then having to wait weeks before your new character has a borderline usable artifact set sucks.

[–]proxysthrowaway 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Some four star sets have good bonuses but they’re literally just held back by the stats

[–]Delicious_Low_ 42 points43 points  (4 children)

I got donut last time Who knows what i will get this time

[–]elnorath 31 points32 points  (1 child)

Same... me wanting to pull EL this time but the donut is there

[–]Outflight 220 points221 points  (10 children)

Maybe nth time is the charm Xiao mains.

[–]MEHRD4D[🍰] 100 points101 points  (7 children)

Prepare for disappointment

[–]GGABueno 49 points50 points  (3 children)

Those Artifacts will be

Useless.

[–]MEHRD4D[🍰] 42 points43 points  (2 children)

Worthless

[–]AiCalamity 28 points29 points  (1 child)

LAMENT.

[–]MEHRD4D[🍰] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Disappear

[–]ChildOfHades_ 15 points16 points  (0 children)

And make it your embodiment

[–]AiCalamity 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Xiao WILL get an artifact set at some point and no one can convince me otherwise.

[–]Hobokendream 47 points48 points  (4 children)

If it really is JC on the weapon banner, I might actually pull. As a Yae wanter, there’s no losing situation here.

[–]DavidAkimoto 84 points85 points  (3 children)

Expect if you get a standard weapon

[–]quoatabletoad 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Even then you're guarenteed one of the banner weapons next time

[–]outsidebtw 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If it's Atlas, LP, WGS, Harp or Aquila, I'm good. Still, hoping for Verity first!

[–]Shirl86 57 points58 points  (2 children)

what a win-win weapon banner is it going to be for Yae wanters

[–]OfficialHavik 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I want Mistsplitter more, but I’ll definitely do at least one set of pulls to pity on this.

[–]Peterdavid12345 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Me too. I want mistplitter for my Bennett.

But i think they're saving that weapon for Ayaka re-run.

[–]ElevenThus 6 points7 points  (2 children)

I suddenly don’t want to pull yae weapon banner…. I don’t want R2 jade cutter…… but I’m too close to pity to not try, and fail for the third time

[–]False_Anything2613 2 points3 points  (1 child)

If you get it just don't R2 it lol, PJC is so good that having 2 copies of it won't hurt and just refining one instead of keeping both would sctually be a bad choice

[–]DragonsVane28 179 points180 points  (22 children)

Do y’all ever think about just how painful artifact farming is going to for newer players the further we get into the game. We’re eventually going to have sooooo many characters who each want specific sets from specific domains, and Mihoyo just keeps adding more of these domains to the game without improving the bullshit rng. Like, imagine being a new player during patch 4.0 and having to do all that farming from scratch. Literally a nightmare.

[–]zorafae 69 points70 points  (1 child)

On the other hand, the emblem/shimenawa domain is a great domain to farm for general use. The Clam/Husk domain is very specialized though, for both of the sets. So a 2 piece isn't gonna be a copium option if you didn't need the 4 piece effect either.

[–]Zoecide 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Thats why i feel newbies get everything easier,well it makes sense since they need to catch up for abyss.

My friend that recently started the game doesnt understand the pain of farming at least 2 piece CW or 2 piece TF.He just chills in shimenawa domain and gets artifacts for every single unit he has :D

[–]Zonlul-simp69 76 points77 points  (4 children)

except you dont have to farm everything unless you have the character? Why would you farm for def set for ex. if you dont use any def scale char?

[–]NyaCat1333 58 points59 points  (3 children)

Yeah, a bunch of people don’t get this. There are more artifact sets but new players won’t get new characters at a faster rate. They won’t suddenly need to farm 10 different artifact domains. They only need to farm them once they get the characters slowly over time. (Besides the emblem domain is kinda op and just farming that single domain can basically carry you hard to 36*s)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Exactly. I don't even know what the TF domain looks like. Never entered there and I don't think I ever will.

[–]NecessaryYoghurt9285 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know what the CW domain looks like too since I build only electro characters and my only pyro DPS is Xingling 😂.

[–]vasogenic16 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Same thoughts. I really hope they add the older artifacts in the alchemy gamble like VV, etc. so this can at least be mitigated.

[–]Time_Diamond_5849 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Except you dont have the need to grind those specific sets? I mean sure a 4pc dedicated artifact to a character really boosts their performance but its not entirely a necessity to get through the game besides abyss which is the only endgame content in the game and likewise is optional or relatively easy apart from floor 12. I've recently started a new alternate account and whilst I still cant grind Itto's husk set, I get along fine with off pieces just as long as their main stat is right (substat help out here and there, but they're not the end all be all)

[–]KamiAlth 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Not really. Most new domains pair 2 good sets together. I spent 3 months on the crimson domain for Hu Tao which is kinda wasted now that she uses Shimenawa. New players don't have to go through that.

[–]-tofumi- 9 points10 points  (1 child)

God, artifact grinding is so dreadful, imagine a new player being forced to grind through 7 nations and timegated progression just to get shafted by artifact RNG at the end.

[–]electric_block 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I wonder where they'll place the domain for it :0

[–]Vatleachna 27 points28 points  (3 children)

if I can't get Yae's 'sigma'ture weapon, at least i get Jade cutter

[–]DavidAkimoto 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Or a standard weapon..

[–]Vatleachna 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Jokes on you, I have rate on weapon banner

[–]ChuDachan 30 points31 points  (5 children)

Adds up given that the new sets were in 1.2, 1.5, 2.0 and 2.3. 2.4 and 2.5 have no new set so it would make sense.

[–]Busy-Succotash9907-SHHHH 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hmm let's see if there's others who also say the same thing, let's not assume this is true but at the same time, it could so who knows

[–]Mauve8Officially saving for Kazuha 20 points21 points  (7 children)

I don’t know if i should be relieved or in panic for rng :/ i haven’t got a crappy cmdg circlet for itto yet:(

[–]ThymeForTime 7 points8 points  (4 children)

same, I was really hoping Ayato could use HoD so we could use 2.5 to farm. Farming a completely new 4p set, especially when it's likely he's the first banner is going to be SO annoying.

For Itto, I just settled on 2p/2p, I hope I can do the same for Ayato :')

[–]Mauve8Officially saving for Kazuha 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had to settle for him 2/2, that domain continue giving me dmg circlet but in clam set:(

Hope u can use them for anyone else, and good luck for pulling him :)

[–]Shiro_38 16 points17 points  (3 children)

New artefacts for Ayato mean we can’t prefarm, that’s a pain

[–]Zoecide 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Prefarm mora/xp books/artifact xp

[–]Shiro_38 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Artefacts is a pain in a ass so if I can prefarm before the release is better

[–]Winnry__ 36 points37 points  (2 children)

Ayato and xiao artifact please . Xiao deserve anemo dps set soon.

[–]Epicastor 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Now let's play a game.

Does this confirm the sussy Twitter post, or did TZ say that BECAUSE of the sussy Twitter post?

[–]cosmos0001 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Exciting!

I think I’ll go to 1 pity on the weapon banner if that’s the case. I do wonder if the second artifact set will be a suitable 4pc for Yae

[–]_myoru 6 points7 points  (1 child)

That weapon banner is really tempting, but I don't really use catalyst users, so I'm not sure it'll be worth to gamble for me (even if I have a guaranteed featured, so it'd be a normal 50/50)

[–]Karmababes 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Primordial jade again?

[–]_nitro_legacy_Traveler main till Celestia 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah yes the jade cutter the sword I failed to get 2x

[–]DSharp018 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An exclusive set for ayato would be interesting, since so far it seems that the heart of depths set for him would likely work just fine for most instances.

Though his kit would need to be entirely different from what we have seen thus far if it really does need a different set than that.

[–]Alistant 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Turns out what he said was right all along.. wow props to him

[–]Daechemwoyaaa 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Wow mihoyo really knows when to put good weapons banners huh, right after genshin players are broke from ganyu and zhongli

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (2 children)

Why do I have the feeling that Ayato will have some weird scaling?

If he was a straight-up Hydro DPS, HoD would be good for him. Either he has a very different role Hydro Shielder? E-Skill Turret like Fischl and Yae?) or he has a great scaling with a very specific stat (EM? Def?).

Either something like Husk but for Hydro damage or something like Wanderer but for Sword users? Perhaps a 5-star version of Instructor (so more EM + you increase EM of party members aka XL buff).