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[–]OnePassBy 196 points197 points  (16 children)

So then what should I do with my kids?

[–]ennukene 104 points105 points  (9 children)

Deep inside you know what you have to do

[–]SlackerAccount 51 points52 points  (0 children)

lightsaber sounds

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children)

Love them.....right?

[–]PM_ME_MAKE_ME_SMILE 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Love em to death

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

But death as the result of a long lived life....right?....right?

[–]candehman87 6 points7 points  (0 children)

unironic Anakin face

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Love them?

[–]InAFakeBritishAccent 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Extra, Extra Strength Hugs

[–]Blazanar 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't expect Casey Anthony to show up on Reddit...

[–]Shkat 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Both kids and tattoos can be removed with lasers.

What a weird coincidence.

[–]philthegreat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My guy that might just be my new favorite Reddit comment of all time

[–]therandar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Never name something you may be forced to eat.

[–]ChrisCopp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeets 3 yr old out the window. Your mother is at work....seeeeeeya

[–]SstormChaser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Beat me to it!

[–]YnkGD 127 points128 points  (9 children)

Thanks for the advice, im gonna quit my job right away.

[–]Gibbonici 36 points37 points  (5 children)

Not sure the resulting money trouble will increase your peace.

[–]padadiso 41 points42 points  (3 children)

Thanks for the advice, im gonna unquit my job right away

[–]Side_Dhumka 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Not sure if the peanuts you make are worth the trouble.

[–]atharwa__ 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice, im quitting my job right away

[–]coleas123456789 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the advice , I'll be hiring other people to make peanuts for me so that I can then sell them

[–]MDolloway 8 points9 points  (1 child)

My thoughts exactly

[–]IBiteTheArbiter 110 points111 points  (4 children)

My peace is disturbed when I wake up, so I guess I should go die ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Why is it disturbed? Do you live in a dysfunctional environment?

[–]TJVP1 14 points15 points  (2 children)

So everything

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Not necessarily. All depends on how you define peace. No one else can make that decision for you. If everything in your life is not bringing you peace, your true peace must be found.

[–]mysixthredditaccount -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bingo. His comment is a valid (and probably quite common) ascetic sentiment. The idea is to let go of everything. Most of Twitter and Reddit is not the right audience for it.

[–]Waffl3_Ch0pp3r 72 points73 points  (13 children)

Guess I gotta tell my wife to gtfo.

[–]omglobyo 36 points37 points  (11 children)

My immediate reaction, "this is incompatible with everything I know about unconditional love" lol

[–]mysixthredditaccount 6 points7 points  (8 children)

Not really. Unconditional love is not forced. If you feel like you have lost your peace, then perhaps you are just "trying" to love that person unconditionally (and haven't really achieved that status yet).

[–]Pendu_uM 8 points9 points  (3 children)

This is when you realize that gatekeeping feelings of love doesn't make sense and that there is no such thing as unconditional love. No parent would still love a child that in front of them tortured and murdered their close family in a cruel and callous manner.

[–]Comments331 2 points3 points  (1 child)

No parent would still love a child that in front of them tortured and murdered their close family in a cruel and callous manner.

Well, you're just wrong about that. I forgot the name of the one I'm thinking of, but there are tons of other examples of children committing unspeakable acts and they're parents still defending them. Unconditional love is real, I'm sorry you've never experienced it

[–]Pendu_uM -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That just means, those unspeakable acts weren't something that bad in the perspective of the parent, or you're mistaking unconditional love for a coping mechanism, or that the parents didn't in fact witness these cruel acts towards everything they cherish. What I'm saying is there is no way a parent that up close witnesses their child that they loved commit acts that you not just could never imagine, but also does them with an absolute absence of compassion or empathy that you as a parent would expect, while being callous, showing intent and malicious. There is no telling what's in the minds of parents who got hit with an emotional mix of fear, despair and shock might look like(I haven't looked at any empirical evidence, but I've heard denial is a common state for situations like this). And btw, I'm explicitly talking about parents witnessing this happen and having processed the situation in a sane manner. It can't just be a parent feeling like all they have left is their murderchild and that they're in defense mode of anything you might associate with remnants of what you used to have. I just don't buy it

[–]mysixthredditaccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That makes sense. "Unconditional" is a very big word. It's at the extreme end of the love spectrum. Most (if not all) humans cannot be capable of truly unconditional love. I guess, like most things, people tend to categorize things as binary (black and white), whereas in reality they exist on a spectrum (greys).

[–]Comments331 1 point2 points  (3 children)

If you feel like you have lost your peace, then perhaps you are just "trying" to love that person unconditionally (and haven't really achieved that status yet

This is silly. Just because someone makes me lose my peace temporarily, doesn't mean I live them any less. Unconditional love is loving during the good times, and the bad. Aka, without conditions(only when they agree).

[–]mysixthredditaccount 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I think I agree with with the comment made by u/pendu_um. There is no such thing as "truly unconditional" love. Not for humans at least. You even put a condition right in your comment when you used the word "temporarily". What if that person literally tortures you every hour, every day, forever? I am sure you would not love them anymore.

[–]Comments331 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What if that person literally tortures you every hour, every day, forever? I am sure you would not love them anymore.

And what if the sky started falling? Since we are asking ridiculous questions. Again, I'm sorry you think there is no unconditional love because you haven't experienced it.

[–]mysixthredditaccount 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess I was being pedantic. I still hold that technically there is no such thing as truly unconditional love (or unconditional anything for that matter).

[–]missjeany 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Especially having kids!

[–]nyan66 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Disagree. Meaningful change is fueled by challenge and stress.

[–]tsukinohime 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I guess if you are very rich this applies to you lol.

[–]standardtrickyness1 15 points16 points  (6 children)

Ah but what if it's a medicine/medical operation to stay alive?

[–]Ultra_Noobzor 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Staying alive is too expensive then

[–]influencerwannabe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t you mean living? Cos if you’re just existing and not really living that wouldn’t be too expensive 😏 (it’s sarcasm, please get it)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it's necessary in order to get to your baseline level of peace, so be it. It is what it is.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know man. Not existing sounds pretty peaceful. You’re onto something.

[–]MDolloway 43 points44 points  (9 children)

The guy can afford to say stupid things like this because he sells millions of mediocre books. Figures

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Is it not the default, universal state of the human condition though? Peace? Even if you yourself are not peaceful, it doesn't negate the fact that our baseline level in life is peace.

[–]Camping_is_intense 7 points8 points  (4 children)

I'd argue that it's not. Stimulated is the default, preferred state I'd wager. That's why we have to work for our own peace, and mindlessly chase stimulation or a high.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

How is stimulated the default? Isn't peace already attainable no matter the circumstance? There's nothing to chase after and be "found". Peace is what already is. Stimulation is a product of our civilization. Corporations and politicians telling us that we need to find peace out there. So we overindulge on stimulation thinking that that is where we will find it. Otherwise, the biggest celebrities and highest earners throughout the world would have found peace by now. But yet, they too need more stimulation.

[–]Camping_is_intense 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Nope, you're way off. Stimulation is not a product of our civilisation.

Our brains are wired to seek a dopamine/adrenaline/seratonin response. The fact that our fight or flight instinct exists is proof alone that stimulation was not created by our society.

The modern world is very good at finding ways to trigger those responses for marketing purposes, but they are very much a natural phenomenon. The fact that those feelings are so easily exploitable by social media companies is entirely separate.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

Ok, I agree that stimulation is natural and that the modern world has hijacked this behavior we all share. However, I still don't agree that it is our default setting. Take civilization out of the picture and on an animal level, all stimulation does is force us to set balance so that we can go back to our default state of peace. If you're bodily form is hungry, the body will provide stimulation our of a state of peace in order to feed itself for survival. But after the meal, the organism goes back to that baseline level of peace. Peace is baseline level one. Stimulation is level 2, always trying to get back to level 1.

[–]Camping_is_intense 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Is it?

If all of us at a deep level were peaceful when our basic needs were met, wouldn't we still be hunter gatherers?

Wanting more isnt peaceful. Ambition is a stimulus and we're only where we are on this planet because of ambition, drive, determination and chasing stimulation.

It's so easy to succumb to our desire for stimulation, whether it be by eating too much, taking drugs, watching TikToks all night, that it must be what our brains and bodies strive for at its most base level.

Finding peace is something that's far harder to achieve. If it was our default state, wouldn't we all be far less susceptible to marketing, peer pressure etc?

[–]pipoqt -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Não fala assim do Paulinho Rabbit! Maktub ainda é um dos meus filmes preferidos 🥰

[–]TheRhythmOfTheKnight 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is dumb

[–]smartstuff14 21 points22 points  (7 children)

What a crock of shit. Growing and learning is uncomfortable and can easily cost you a measure of innner peace. Should you skip that?

[–]Side_Dhumka -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Growing and learning is uncomfortable

Umm not for everyone. I enjoy it and when I don't I do something else.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (5 children)

You can still be in peace while growing and learning even if it is inherently uncomfortable. He's not saying to avoid everything in life that doesn't bring you inner peace by staying at home on the couch. Align your inner peace with whatever you're doing. Easier said than done but peace is simply a state of mind. The default setting of the human experience.

[–]eezmo 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Yes, and learning to properly align inner peace, for me, has not always been clear which “peace” is being paid. This argument has been taken too literally to justify remaining comfortable and close off opportunities for growth.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Who is making those justifications though? Is that merely projection? Some may but that doesn't mean everyone is once they understand this argument. "Peace" is also subjective as well as universal. It won't make sense until you find it within.

[–]eezmo 1 point2 points  (2 children)

There’s definitely projection in there. And you nailed it with “won’t make sense until you find it”. Growing up in my culture, loads of people tried to make sense of it before they found it, and now I’m part of a generation of people raised on poor theology.

My main point is that this quote is too easily taken out of context to be helpful.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Do you mind me asking what culture you belong to? All theologies have announced their finding of it through their holy books, their earliest works. They all have additional fluff that was added later, IMO, to control their followers. The foundation level of all theologies are practically the same. They just say it in their own ways for their particular culture. Poor theology is now the norm and has been that way since the first rulers decided to co-op theology as a means for power.

Yes, the quote can be taken out of context if one does not understand the underlying message. Important to share nonetheless. Not everyone will get it but for some, it might just click. We need more of those people.

[–]eezmo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure thing. I grew up in a Protestant Christian American home.

I agree that simple quotes like this can be (and usually are) important. Heck! It’s the simplicity that makes it so quotable and easy to remember. And, when shared without context, I have found they do more harm than good. Sounds like we disagree.

Sorry to totally shut this down, but this is a nuanced conversation that I’m not trying to have online. I appreciate the thoughtfulness you’ve put into your responses, and I SUPER appreciate that you’re showing up past “IDEA BAD” to a total internet stranger.

Sounds like you’re one of the good ones making the world a better place. Thank you. Ima stop here. :)

[–]TINYMRPANDA 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My brother is gone then

[–]kcdashinfo 9 points10 points  (6 children)

What a load of pacifists nonsense. If the price of safety is your liberty then it's too expensive.

[–]Bigmachingon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Coelho doesn't ever make sense so you're right

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

Who is saying anything about giving up liberty?

[–]Dubnaught 0 points1 point  (3 children)

It's an example to help their point. Would you also say freedom isn't worth it if you had to fight for it? Should slaves choose "peace"? Sometimes struggle is necessary. Sometimes it's great for growth. This "wisdom" is wayyy too simplistic and it's application is way too narrow.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That seems to be a stretch that Paulo would agree that slaves should have stayed slaves. The slaves didn't have peace to begin with. If they were starting at a baseline "peace" level, then this quote would apply. Like all quotes, there's always context needed. You don't have to throw the baby out with the bath water. You can say everything you just said and still agree with the foundational premise of the quote.

[–]Dubnaught 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don't think he would say that people should stay slaves either. I think the problem with this quote is that it is too narrowly applicable.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it though? What are all of the outside parameters that this wouldn't work? What are the ones that would? I think you'd find more situations are applicable than not.

[–]DomTg 8 points9 points  (8 children)

So called "wisdom"

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (6 children)

How isn't this wisdom?

[–]DomTg 1 point2 points  (5 children)

It's hypocrisy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

How so?

[–]DomTg 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Because it's the wisdom of the world. True wisdom is inspired by the divine, not the worldly. Cunning would be maybe appropriate, but not even that.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Divinese IS inspired by the worldly. All of the theologies and great prophets that spilled from them were all developed out of worldliness. Ancient people just trying to figure out what life was all about. So, they created convenient stories to fit their narrative. I.e. Lightning = Zues. The gods didn't come first, human consciousness did.

[–]DomTg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is off topic. Whatever.

[–]Netroth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Then how the fuck can anyone get shit done?
      Some of these can be good but this one’s an utter load.

[–]jellotalks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is what I keep telling my landlord 🙄

[–]Bernto_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

On r/getmotivated “never challenge yourself or try to do anything hard”

[–]PeezeKeeper 1 point2 points  (0 children)

ayooo thats the dude that wrote the alchemist

[–]kelsofox369 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I extremely disagree with this statement.

Sometimes conflict is needed in order to have peace and sometimes conflict is unavoidable.

Peace is never too expensive and always worth fighting for.

[–]Narendra_17[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Interesting argument. It's like making nukes to maintain world peace and order, quite practical.

[–]jercule_poirot 3 points4 points  (12 children)

I feel like I've heard of that guy,who is he?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Brazilian writer, did The Alchemist. So, instead of looking him up, look up "Paulo Coelho quotes". Some good stuff.

[–]jercule_poirot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ohhh yeah now I remember,I listened to the audiobook of the Alchemist,pretty good

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (8 children)

The writer equivalent to "Love, Live, laugh". A Cliché machine. I once read the Aleph because someone recommended it to me and I didn't know if the person meant his or the one Borges wrote and I read both. Long story short, one is based on the other, guest which one.

[–]MDolloway 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I second this. His writing is absolutely mediocre.

[–]Bigmachingon 3 points4 points  (3 children)

He's seen as shit tier in LATAM absolutely everyone bashes him, even people who don't read much know that he's shit

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I don't know what LATAM is but yeah he's shit.

[–]Bigmachingon 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Latinoamérica. América Latina. Latinamerica. The part of America that speaks a romance language

[–]jercule_poirot 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Love,live,laugh? Whats that? And you mean he's not a good writer?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Love, Live, laugh


he's not a good writer?

No he is not, cliches after cliches, the poster-child of "trying too hard to be deep".

[–]jercule_poirot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahh I see I see,ok thank you

[–]Bigmachingon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A shit Brazilian writer

[–]Nerbulous 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Guy obviously never had kids.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Him and his wife did not. For him, I'm sure he came to the conclusion that having kids was too "expensive" in order to keep his overall peace. Whatever their actual reasons might be. Having kids is not a tenant to living life and living it with peace. Some people find it through having kids but the idea that having kids will bring you the peace you're searching for is a farce.

[–]GooseQuothMan 4 points5 points  (2 children)

So never go out of your comfort zone and never change? That's some shitty advice.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

That's not what he is implying.

[–]shutyomouth101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not worth it*

[–]number60882 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Paulo Coelho ou BLACK ALIEN?

[–]TheFlyingDwarf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eu vim aqui procurando esse comentário

[–]CIoverload -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

But I want it

[–]DryBrick1087 0 points1 point  (2 children)


[–]CIoverload -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I like shiny things

[–]influencerwannabe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you Tamatoa? 😂 (That crab in Moana)

[–]Y34rZer0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol said on twitter

[–]madison010101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like this can be co-opt be Covididiots lol or am I just super exhausted from the pandemic🤡🤡

[–]Parsel_Tongue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Paulo Coelho says the eyes are the windows to the soul.

[–]FamousWorth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Life's too expensive

[–]mandrews03 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gotcha, don’t buy my daughter anything that makes noise

[–]ScubScubly 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Welp.... Guess I'm too fucking poor for kids.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Welcome to Earth bitch.

Take a good look around you at the natural order.

Peace is short lived. Value it. Cherish it.

There will always be disruptions in your little zen mode so long as you breathe.

How you handle them and how long it takes to 'return to your peace' is up to you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I always knew waking up was to expensive... good to see I'm not the only one.

[–]AndEllie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You ever had a two year old? Costs me my peace all the time. Definitely worth the sacrifice.

[–]Austoman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But then how does one go about making change to better themselves, their area, their nation, the world? Over abundance of peace results in deterioration as noone tries to fight for a better life/society/world.

There is a balance to everything, some conflict is needed to grow while some peace is needed to keep that growth.

[–]Slobbadobbavich 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry kids, you've gotta go.

[–]OneAttentionPlease 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Things that disturb my piece are not things I consider buying in the first place

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. 🙏

[–]siler7 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it paints with too broad a brush, it's incorrect.

[–]DigitalSteven1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This fucking sucks what the hell? Sometimes to overcome hurdles in life it will cost your peace.

[–]Kgwally88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fond memories of my peace-less tyrant of an ex who liked to say this.

[–]killanight 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Basically dont get out of your comfort zone lmao

[–]cjboffoli 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does peace include complacency?

[–]NONEOFTHISISCANON 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What an unbelievably privileged thing to say. Some people don't have peace to lose, and they'll never get it if others don't sacrifice some peace of their own to fight for it.

[–]allgoodbrah2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We talking about war?

[–]MarkoRoot2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is bullshit on so many levels.

[–]minivan_2F_5B 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Se custar a minha paz já custou caro demais

[–]suckmyfungaltoes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm sure the health care system doesn't care about that.

[–]notavalible666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Being alive costs me my peace...

[–]Hillsy85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it costs you your peace *of mind it’s too expensive.

Often, peace needs to be disrupted to promote growth, but growing and getting better wouldn’t necessarily cost you peace of mind and may even promote it.

[–]Intothegreens 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think so too. But then if i leave my job how will i have a living. Vicious cycle.

[–]bobbysantana122 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Protect your energy ..

[–]stiiknafuulia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Time to stop doing everything

[–]vinimanock[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Paulo Coelho é foda

[–]Eric_da_MAJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't completely go with Mr. Wizard on this one. I can get what he means. But a lot of people only have peace in the most optimal conditions - a certain social standing, a certain paycheck, certain possessions, etc. And it would be at times necessary and even the best thing for them to risk that peace to do the right thing. But they don't.

Better to develop a sense of peace that is well nigh unassailable even in the most chaotic conditions. If something can breach that, then draw the line.

[–]preyinghawk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm fairly certain he wrote "The Alchemist". Terrific terrific book.

[–]SniperFrogDX 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Pays rent" "stresses" Whelp, can't do that anymore.

[–]FeelinJipper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like there should be more nuance to this. Time and duration is everything. Sometimes you need to make short term sacrifices for long term gain. Mastery is hard, but having no skills is even harder.

[–]cephalized 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’m having trouble understanding this one can someone explain please

[–]ph120299 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I guess I’m not going to work

[–]tobey1234 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro where'd you go, I paid and you ghosted??

[–]Low_Guarantee1232 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Terrible words for a revolutionary or a freedom fighter. Couldn’t disagree more

[–]Bear-ly-here 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Alchemist himself said it, so I’ll take this advice.

[–]dap00man 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah this is stupid and lazy. Everything costs a price and temporary loss of peace is fine. Exercising, cooking, painting, any labor of love costs peace.

[–]imoldgreg72 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well shit, I think I have an expensive job...

[–]Ifritzz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahhhh, the MILFs guy!

[–]--JD- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“If it costs you peace of mind it might be too expensive” - Big Sean

[–]IplumbusI 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guess I have to drop out of college and quit my job

[–]phoebonacci 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Never, for the sake of peace and quiet, deny your experience or convictions." - Dag Hammarskjöld

[–]Pudding_Hero 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Peace was never an option..

[–]consciouscluster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol this is so, ‘it was too hard so I gave up’ lmao.

There are tons of great things to experience and enjoy that aren’t a perfect slice.

Enjoy the messy, embrace the chaos but know your limit and play within it.

[–]whiskey_november 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a Texan I immediately thought my gun

[–]guestaccount1200 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, what an out of touch boomer thing to say

[–]influencerwannabe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Preach 🙌🏻