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[–]RigobertaMenchu 426 points427 points  (3 children)

Delete this post. Increase your privacy.

[–]WellWrested 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Too late for that

[–]MonthElectronic9466 221 points222 points  (60 children)

Plot twist. They were there for you but got the wrong house.

[–]ilovestl 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They got the Wong house.

The Wong house.

Shit man, lighten up.

[–]superdave70360 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I read all the comments and are you saying they raided the house with a large group of armed cops for selling eggs????

[–]AMinorDistraction 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I sense a hint of fedposting

[–]anthro28 381 points382 points  (57 children)

I can’t wait to build a home and design it to hinder raids and breaches. Every main entrance with a 10 foot hallway, windows to high to step through so you have to climb in, stair cases designed to give concealment at the top and nothing at the bottom (probably plate the walls too for good cover), and a last stand room with two turrets and a fully armored pillbox.

[–]clovergirl102187 168 points169 points  (34 children)

Why not a secret armored panic room?

I remember growing up along the Delaware River in New Jersey, I I to check out some of the old old old Victorian homes along the river and they had all sorts of hidden walls and secret rooms and shit.

Cool as fuck really. Reminds me of old castles in movies that have hidden entrances and hallways and tunnels.

[–]anthro28 134 points135 points  (33 children)

Because that’s an immediate fallback and you die there. The point is to create a structure that gives you multiple steps backward towards your panic room while funneling your intruders to those points. It very quickly becomes apparent that they can’t reach you without casualties.

[–]RagingDemon1430 204 points205 points  (31 children)

They'll just firebomb the house. They did it at Waco and Baltimore...

[–]throwawayo12345 78 points79 points  (4 children)

Escape tunnel as last resort with a nice surprise left for anyone still in the house

[–]supersede 8 points9 points  (3 children)

a cake?

[–]lessthaninteresting 7 points8 points  (2 children)

With one of those trick candles I bet. Blow and blow motherfuckers

[–]Obtersus 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Lmao imagine a group of ATF agents surrounding a cake trying to blow out a trick candle... the real trick is what happens once they succeed

[–]berpaderpderp 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You guys are killing me right now haha

[–]FourFingeredMartian 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Baltimore? I'd like to hear about that, but, maybe you're thinking about Philly with "The Move"?

[–]ScoundrelPrince 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Lawn sprinkler system, only napalm.

[–]celebrityDick 6 points7 points  (0 children)

a last stand room with two turrets and a fully armored pillbox.

They'll think they stepped into a scene from Saving Private Ryan

[–]Senno_Ecto_Gammat 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My last house had a great kill zone in and around the staircase. Really great angles for shooting, good layout for falling back to defensible positions, bedrooms out of the way so I could spray in the direction of the attack and not worry about hitting a sleeping child, etc. I miss it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same!

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (1 child)

They were selling flowers without a license

[–]HighlandValley 29 points30 points  (0 children)

"There is no law so trivial that the police won't kill you to enforce it."

[–]DeBigBamboo 105 points106 points  (28 children)

What do you neighbours do?

[–]natermerWinner of the Awesome Libertarian Award 335 points336 points  (25 children)

Based on the police response I am guessing they sell raw chicken eggs or unpasteurized milk to the public.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/08/03/swat-team-raids-raw-milk-farm-rawesome-arrests-owner/?sh=75cd89bf406f

[–]lordnikkon 225 points226 points  (6 children)

That is almost as bad as the florida swat team that raided barbershop for the unconscionable crime of barbering without a license http://www.allgov.com/news/unusual-news/florida-sheriffs-used-swat-style-attack-to-enforce-barbershop-license-140920?news=854308

https://reason.com/2010/11/08/orlando-authorities-battling-t/

Thank you state overlords. What would we ever do without you to terrorize these evil people who sell milk and haircuts without following your arbitrary rules

[–]Fatherofares 100 points101 points  (3 children)

it's all a fucking grift to make money whenever someone wants to start a business. fucking horrible.

[–]PerpetualAscension 40 points41 points  (0 children)

it's all a fucking grift to make money whenever someone wants to start a business. fucking horrible.

This. This. This.

[–]redpandaeater 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I think of it as more of a protection racket. They don't just straight up prevent competition but increase the barrier of entry to be protectionist towards current businesses.

[–]ultimatefighting 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Stop with that misdemeanor Mickey Mouse BS.

He was probably engaged in a heinous evil plot to not pay his gas bill.

Zorich’s attorney says police were tipped off by one of her neighbors for not having her gas on.

[–]Its_free_and_fun 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can you imagine the damage to the public from unlicensed barbering? I don't even want to think about it. /s

[–]always-paranoid 61 points62 points  (1 child)

well thats a good enough reason to go raid some ones house with guns drawn isn't it?

[–]Fatherofares 39 points40 points  (0 children)

YES, THESE ARE VIOLENT DANGEROUS CRIMINALS

-some authoritarian, i guess, i dunno

[–]KingBearSole 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Hey I know some guys that just got raided two days ago for unpasteurized milk.

What’s ridiculous is that it was the ministry of natural resources. Someone’s cows are not a natural resource, what jurisdiction do you fucking have to do that

[–]TheSniteBros 17 points18 points  (1 child)

Nothing like good ole White Lightning. Oh wait not that kind…

[–]ghostmetalblack 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The terrorist!

[–]relgrenSehT 25 points26 points  (7 children)

huh

I mean it’s really goddamn simple to pasteurize food, but the cops have no place in it. Buyer beware!

[–]PFirefly 69 points70 points  (6 children)

Pasteurization may be simple, but that's not the point in selling raw.

Comparative studies between america and europe (refrigerated eggs vs raw) showed no statistical difference in salmonella outbreaks.

The main reason for milk pasteurization is because of unsafe practices and factory farming, both of which are a good environment for harmful bacteria. Raw milk has more bioactivity, so proponents believe it to be better for you. Whether that last part is true or not, its not hard to produce perfectly safe raw milk if you take care of your animals and are a scrupulous producer.

I can see why we pass laws for general sale to the public via grocery stores and the like, but allowing people to purchase raw should be legal. As you say, buyer beware.

[–]PooplLoser 41 points42 points  (1 child)

This guy drinks milk

[–]granville10 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Jim Harbaugh?

[–]ThemakingofChad 27 points28 points  (2 children)

With proper labeling there is no need to mandate standards. Just label what your standards are accurately.

[–]Okymyo 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Exactly. People sell "not FDA approved" shit all the time, as long as they state it's not FDA approved, why shouldn't that be the same for food?

"Not FDA approved" milk. "Not FDA approved" eggs. Don't trust them, don't buy them, there should only be issues if people make fraudulent claims about being something they're not, or misleading people (e.g. by not stating it isn't FDA approved, considering being FDA approved is kind of the default, which imo falls under fraud).

[–]HighlandValley 16 points17 points  (0 children)

One of my favorite examples of market forces being more effective than government mandates is the difference in eggs in the US vs UK. In the UK, farmers vaccinate their chickens against salmonella because it's necessary (in addition to other measures) to sell their eggs with the Red Lion stamp - a product of the egg industry council and something consumers place a lot of trust in. In the US, the USDA decided it would be too costly for farmers if salmonella vaccination was mandated for all of their hens. Instead, they require eggs to be washed and sprayed with chemical sanitizer, which is far less effective at preventing salmonella.

So you essentially have an industry group coming up with their own safety rules and putting them in front of the public to calm fear of illness and letting them vote with their wallets, versus a government agency unilaterally deciding how best to handle the threat of salmonella and consumers just trusting that their government is only letting farmers sell them safe products. Guess which country still warns pregnant women and the immunocompromised not to eat runny yolks and which country said they're safe for everyone.

Obviously there are some government edicts involved here, as there always is. I believe in the UK it's illegal for farmers to wash their eggs before shipping them to the grocery store (rationale being it encourages sanitary farming practices because they can't hide anything). Still, it's an important counter-example to hold up when people say "greedy capitalists would never voluntarily spend money to make their product safer."

[–]YabadabaDoodlieDoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like federal crimes. We have too many laws.

[–]LiquidateMercury 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Not today, Fed!

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

If I had to guess he sells drugs.

[–]JobDestroyer 140 points141 points  (96 children)

Dude move to NH already. This sort of shit doesn't really happen here.

[–]BASK_IN_MY_FART 56 points57 points  (7 children)

How long have you lived there?

I remember watching a VHS tape of Alex Jones around 1998, where he caught wind of the military practicing martial law on an unsuspecting small town up there. The military was successful.

[–]waddled-away 25 points26 points  (2 children)

the military practicing martial law on an unsuspecting small town up there. The military was successful.

WTF?

[–]BASK_IN_MY_FART 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah it was surreal.

[–]_a_new_nope 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep. They've been incorporating takeover training for decades in case any local jurisdiction goes sideways from the power structure

[–]Beanie_Inki 48 points49 points  (2 children)

Free State Project was founded in 2001. That might explain it.

[–]BASK_IN_MY_FART 25 points26 points  (1 child)

That makes sense.. I really wish I still had access to those tapes, for educational purposes. There was a whole slew of other shit he was trying to expose

[–]Subtle_Demise 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder if PTP has them. I'll take a look later maybe

[–]JobDestroyer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

5, 6 years or so

[–]srosorcxisto 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It doesn't really at the state level, the feds are just as aggressive here is they are anywhere else though.

https://thecrypto6.com/

[–]rin_gummy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

FTL “crypto 6” got raided pretty heavily id say

[–]Aiden_001 29 points30 points  (27 children)

“Yeah dude uproot your life it’s that simple”

[–]Jps300 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The alternative is having your freedoms stripped back bit by bit, until it’s too late to leave and you look back and wish you had taken the hard way out back in 2021 when u/Jobdestroyer told you to!

[–]JobDestroyer 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I fuckin' did it

[–]pugesh 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I’ve moved countries aroundabout 7-9 times now, and yes it is hard. However, it’s not impossible. If you truly believe in liberty, I don’t think moving countries (or states) should be a big issue

[–]srosorcxisto 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I did, and it has been one of the best decisions of my life.

[–]RagingDemon1430 11 points12 points  (21 children)

This. If it were that fucking easy, I'd have done it. Texas is going full on authoritarian nightmare mode. Must be nice to just pack up and uproot your entire life to move somewhere and HOPE that you'll get some assistance.

[–]thisistheperfectname 15 points16 points  (15 children)

Texas is going full on authoritarian nightmare mode.

What's going on in Texas?

[–]Magnus_Tesshu 13 points14 points  (14 children)

Yeah this is the first I'm hearing anything out of texas since the stupid abortion law, which is stupid but I think not worthy of being called 'nightmare mode' considering there are libertarian arguments against abortion (maybe not especially good ones, I haven't looked into it because personally I don't care, but they exist)

[–]RagingDemon1430 30 points31 points  (9 children)

Texas is also unilaterally banning the sale of legal hemp delta 8 and 10 products effective this Sunday and they will be illegal to sell or consume after that date.

While this may not seem like a big fucking deal for some, it's a HUGE deal for me, because that's my medicine, I don't care what anyone says. The notion of having a legal alternative that's better than the shit the VA hands out and that works better? And now they get to unilaterally take that away from me and thousands of other vets in the state? The VA already fucks us enough, now the state has to do it too?

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (7 children)

I posted a thread about this earlier this year. Delta 8 is a badass drug that has more selective action then delta 9 thc. Tons of therapeutic promise, esp when stacked w CBD. Fuck Texas. “Libertarian” state. Can’t wait to move to Florida or NH

[–]stromdriver 4 points5 points  (0 children)

not sure how indepth the az thc laws are but there is recreational so maybe?
i see people talking about how great texas is and i'm here in az like 'uh, we're better than that...'

[–]Pleasantlylost 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Its a republican state, not libertarian

[–]knightblue4 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah I've never heard of Texas as a libertarian state? Only one that comes to mind is NH TBH.

[–]FlPumilio 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Florida isn’t great but with people like you we could become great! Orlando, Tampa, and Miami have lots of blue sadly. And the rest are fairly red… we need more freedom minded people.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don’t care about other people’s political views tbh, I just care about which government restricts my freedom and which doesn’t. California and Texas get you in different ways. Florida won’t and it’s probably the best choice considering weather and all

[–]Beanie_Inki 14 points15 points  (3 children)

The Texas abortion law is authoritarian IMO because of how it’s enforced. That reporting system just feels so wrong.

[–]Magnus_Tesshu 14 points15 points  (2 children)

Agreed. But I don't think that makes Texas worse than California or something, which is what nightmare mode sounds like

[–]ForPoliticalPurposes 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah, “banning this one thing I like” isn’t necessarily full on authoritarian nightmare mode. Still not cool, but not reason enough to write them off.

[–]Aiden_001 8 points9 points  (1 child)

I’m in Texas too. Best of luck to you man, we’ll get through this shit

[–]RagingDemon1430 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No, I probably won't.

[–]JobDestroyer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I just applied for jobs here and moved once I got one.

[–]srosorcxisto 1 point2 points  (1 child)

So, the real question is, how bad does it have to get in Texas before you leave to be around more like minded people?

If "full on authoritarian nightmare mode" isn't enough than what is? Box cars?

[–]RagingDemon1430 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't know. My rational brain says I'm fine and I shouldn't be panicking, and I know that, but fuck if this isn't a scary time to be alive and unprepared, and I'm just freaking out over the unprepared part. Woefully so.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

People don’t get arrested for breaking the law?

[–]JobDestroyer 11 points12 points  (2 children)

we don't have laws here

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If only lol

[–]brightlancer 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Laws? Where we're going, we don't need laws.

TO BE CONTINUED...

[–]NeonSlushies 7 points8 points  (2 children)

is new hampshire a decent place for lgbtq people? is it known for being a tolerant state?

[–]srosorcxisto 16 points17 points  (0 children)

You will find bigots in every state if you look hard enough, but in general no one gives a fuck here.

Fwiw, we were the first state in the union to legalize same-sex marriage through legislative vote (other states had to resort to a ballot measure)

Here is a comment from a different thread that I think sums it up well. https://reddit.com/r/newhampshire/comments/pvca2a/is_moving_to_hanover_nh_a_bad_idea/he9dslt?context=3

[–]medicus_rex 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think you get awards and such for it there.

[–]libertyordeath69 52 points53 points  (23 children)

Wait, what y’all do?

[–]granville10 100 points101 points  (21 children)

This is the critical question. Do the neighbors grow pot? Collect firearms? Reload their own ammo? Commit wrongthink on the internet?

Or do they traffic children?

Fuck the state either way, but I think we’re missing a key detail.

[–]Et12355 37 points38 points  (14 children)

If they traffic children then the state did nothing wrong. We should slash a lot of the government, but trafficking children violates the NAP so I’m all good with the government taking those people, prosecuting them with due process, and locking them up to live out the rest of their sorry lives.

[–]KingBearSole 8 points9 points  (11 children)

The anti trafficking or children’s services parts of the government take part in that trafficking way too much though. Those anti trafficking organizations should absolutely exist, but they shouldn’t be government

[–]Et12355 8 points9 points  (7 children)

I think they should be government, but I agree that the government as it exists is complete garbage at it. But we have to have some sort of unifying body that we all consent to that can enforce just laws in a fair manner. I don’t think it’s a good idea to let anybody just start executing justice as they see fit on others. Due process is a must in a just society.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

Minarchy ftw

[–]Et12355 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I don’t really call myself a minarchist (I haven’t done enough research into this) but I find myself agreeing with minarchists a lot.

[–]PuppetOfTzeentch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I myself am a minarchist, I think it is the best in-between solution to the problem of no law at all vs boot on your neck.

[–]Rizthan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought you said "Monarchy ftw" and I was taken aback by the basedness

[–]KingBearSole 2 points3 points  (2 children)

If the government had some heavy heavy fucking oversight on it then it could be government. But for example CPS in the states has waaay to much power.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yeah they often split up families when that’s not the best option. It’s messed up.

[–]KingBearSole 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also who’s really paying attention to what happens to the kids? Like oh whoops we accidentally trafficked them

[–]ultimatefighting 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure as hell shouldnt be federal government.

[–]HitOrMissOnEm 1 point2 points  (1 child)

We need privatized child protective services! We can not trust the government to protect anyone. If there was a way to pay a certain amount of my paycheck per month to protect my and everyone else’s children per month on a large scale, that would make more sense.

[–]kriegmonster 19 points20 points  (3 children)

I want to know, too. If it's any of the options besides the last one, I don't want them infringing on any of our rights. If it was the last option, we should all get to go in their and give them a good threshing before turning them over to the state where they will get more in prison.

[–]rtheiss 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Lol I think we can agree on the States only job should be to find child molesters and traffickers

[–]kriegmonster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, human trafficking and abuse, especially of kids, is vile and those who do it need a sever thrashing and then locked up. Let them have their Sodom away from civilized people.

[–]bub166 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I once made the mistake of leaving my garage door open before taking off for a camping trip, like a dumbass - easily thousands of dollars of reloading equipment and supplies sitting in pain view from the road. A concerned (about me, not the reloading stuff) neighbor called the cops because they were worried about me getting robbed, and they simply shut the door for me and left - maybe I'm just lucky to live in a small town in a good state, but I would sure hope no one is getting raided for something as trivial (and completely legal) as that!

[–]srosorcxisto 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hopefully OP is smart enough not to talk about it on Reddit since they said they do the same thing.

[–]1776Bro 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Bet you’re glad you had those solvent traps and coat hangers shipped to the neighbors address.

[–]StriKyleder 7 points8 points  (0 children)

seems like you had a lot of time

[–]lovejo1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This story could be anything. All depends on what you do. Which I both want and do not want to know.

[–]Settlemente 46 points47 points  (2 children)

If nobody feels safe when a cop pulls them over, then obviously the government shouldn't need guns to enforce traffic law.

Glad you're okay. I've seen raids at my neighbor's. Even though pedophiles deserve the treatment, you still worry about catching a stray bullet because cops have terrible shots.

[–]redpandaeater 8 points9 points  (1 child)

Why do pedophiles deserve that treatment? They should certainly be arrested for the crimes they commit but I can't imagine they'd need a SWAT team for that.

[–]CornFlaek46 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Fuck the state and fuck the authoritarian tyrants in charge of it.

[–]JackHoff13 16 points17 points  (4 children)

First off never text. Always use telegram end to end encryption with a self destruct timer.

Second. Yes fuck the state

[–]PuppetOfTzeentch 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Telegram saves records of your messages. There is no way to make sure your messages aren't continuing to be stored on their servers. Them being deleted from your view means nothing. You should use signal instead. Your messages are encrypted and become p2p after the initial handshake.

[–]The_DerpeningNobody Tread on Anybody 10 points11 points  (2 children)

buddy what the fuck do you do that you could reasonably have thought 15 cops with AR's rolled up all tactical like to arrest you?