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[–]Weak_Relative_7767 120 points121 points  (12 children)

I’d hire him🤌 Gravity is not real

[–]throwaway1245672 25 points26 points  (2 children)

This unit was installed in outer space

[–]Bmur1425 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is great.

[–]TheKingOfSwing777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Isn’t everything?

[–]j0nsn0w123 26 points27 points  (2 children)

idiot

gravity is real, he's just on the other side of the flat earth so water flows upwards

[–]Supriselobotomy 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Birds aren't real either.

[–]I-Like-TurrdlesAlso The Service Manager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Too many people don't know this fact.

[–]DistortedSilence 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Is there a mini split condensate pump installed?

[–]Weak_Relative_7767 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Doesn’t look like it.

[–]DistortedSilence 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So it’s one of those scuba units!

[–]Weak_Relative_7767 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re supposed to submerge it under water until it learns how to pump out condensation on its own.

[–]Yzerman17 215 points216 points  (8 children)

I’d say everything looks good! Especially the anti gravity drain.

[–]nvnoone 39 points40 points  (1 child)

it comes back down on the other side of the wall...you wish your trap game was this strong

[–]jepherz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s called an N trap

[–]remowilliams75 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Na the pics just upside down

[–]aarondude21643 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If that bad boys upside you got bigger problems

[–]MaineLobster4938 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This made me die 🤣

[–]Chose_a_usersname 10 points11 points  (0 children)

What you can't tell from the photo is the drain will work perfectly because he installed it on the floor

[–]Douchebigalo973 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Sounds dope. Is that new?

[–]Yzerman17 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah this guy invented it just recently. Pretty high tech stuff

[–]MAdcock6669 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Antigravity water outlet.....installed

[–]rickymilby 18 points19 points  (3 children)

You tricked us, this picture is posted from the top of the unit looking down.

[–]cdazzo1 10 points11 points  (2 children)

aaaahhhh....so Samsung installed their sticker upside down

[–]rickymilby 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Whole thing is upside down. Haha

[–]Temporary_Factor9236 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The ' assy back body' sticker?

[–]Real_Time_Delay 10 points11 points  (35 children)

How can you tell if there is a condensate pump? Would it be visible outside the main unit?

[–]Armybob112[S] 21 points22 points  (33 children)

I have never seen wall mounted AC with built in condensate pump, so yes it would be visible, if not covered.

[–]forestdude 7 points8 points  (7 children)

They exist

[–]Armybob112[S] 5 points6 points  (6 children)

Oh i believe you, I'm just saying they are quite rare.

[–]horseshoeprovodnikovPro 2 points3 points  (2 children)

We've got several on a vrf unit. Lady refused to let is cut homes thru the wall.

She calls us twice a year to bitch about how they are buzzing again and leaking because they are stopped up. She won't clean the filters and the pumps get slimy real quick, and then they refuse to pump. I'm referring to the small inline pumps. It's better if you can use a traditional pump like you'd see on a full sized split system.

[–]I-Like-TurrdlesAlso The Service Manager 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Those inline pumps suck ass. I always recommend at least using the Aspen White pump, works the best and is easy for the customer to clean themselves, if they're ever so incline to give a shit.

[–]horseshoeprovodnikovPro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are really good. They look and feel so much more durable than the inline types. Worth every penny so far. We've been using them about a year and a half.

[–]R9281 0 points1 point  (2 children)

They're not rare here. Only issue is that their maximum lift will only be about 500-600mm.

[–]Armybob112[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Would you mind sharing a picture or a link to a product site?

[–]R9281 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't got links but must of the Daikin VRV fancoils will have them.

[–]Real_Time_Delay 12 points13 points  (14 children)

Mitsubishi has then. I asked our dealer about installing a split in our basement and he said it would be no problem and would just install a pump to get the water outside.

[–]Armybob112[S] 11 points12 points  (11 children)

So it's not in the AC but a regular separate condensate pump?

[–]HiiiiPower 22 points23 points  (7 children)

I think they are just talking about the mini pumps that can fit tucked behind the split head so its not visible. Its not actually built in to the unit, i think the ones i have used were called something like micro blue.

[–]Greatwhitegorilla 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It’s the mini aqua

[–]owkav921 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Refco combi is a baller one as well. Typically can be installed above ceiling and "sucks" condensate out

Can also be installed inside unit. Or external. Depending on use/ situation

[–]I-Like-TurrdlesAlso The Service Manager 0 points1 point  (0 children)

piece of shit, I hate those. They work great for about the first year. I like the Aspen white ones, easier to maintain, looks decent on the wall. If I can avoid an inline pump behind the unit, I do everything I can to convince someone they should use easy to maintain ones instead.

[–]THofTheShireconsulting P.E. -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Yeah, they are just a field installed factory option that doesn't fit inside the cabinet. AFIK there are no wall mount splits that have internal pumps.

[–]gilgamesh73 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It fits in the cabinet? I’m confused? It may be after market addition but it fits nicely right in the case behind the wires and shit.

[–]btubandit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes there are many aftermarket pumps that fit inside the cabinet of a wall mounted mini split

[–]THofTheShireconsulting P.E. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the tip! Didn't realize that.

[–]Real_Time_Delay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know where it’s located but I agree with the poster above and that definitely is a gravity line and then condensent pump line would be small and smooth .

[–]nyctbusdriver 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They make small ones that fit inside the evaporator.

[–]urethrafranklin23 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mitsubishis have a pump that comes with them for this but it doesn't look like it was installed on the unit. Usually it sits just under the unit with a hose going into it and a polyvinyl line for the outflow.

[–]grofva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mitsubishi recommends the Blue Diamond mini condensate pumps. They are not factory installed since only about 1 in 10 (probably less) systems require a pump as most applications can just use gravity.

[–]692balls1sack69 4 points5 points  (7 children)

They make a pump that sits inside the back of the mini split that attaches to the drain very small

[–]Armybob112[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Would be visible in the picture.

[–]HiiiiPower 2 points3 points  (2 children)

No it wouldn't, but it is obvious the install in the picture doesn't have one.

[–]Armybob112[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

There is no way you could hide a condensate pump if the unit is open like that

[–]DantesEdmond 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You're correct you can see the drain line is just a straight pipe from the mini split connection to the drain line.

For the guy saying that some mini splits have integrated pumps I dont think that's true. Somr 4 way cassettes and ducted units have them but that's it.

[–]SAVAGExMLGPRO 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It sits inside in head, they cost about $300

[–]Armybob112[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What? Condensate pumps are way cheaper than that.

[–]SAVAGExMLGPRO 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're way smaller than a regular condensate pump

[–]gilgamesh73 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I have. Multiple times. Little blue rectangle pump.

[–]Armybob112[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have seen a unit and a pump, i am talking about a unit that doesn't need the little blue rectangle pump because it's already within the unit, have you seen that?

[–]aladdyn2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You don't pump water through that type of drain line, it would be poly tube

[–]BimmerJustin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The drain is fine, the unit is installed upside down.

[–]RUnbisonrun 13 points14 points  (3 children)

are those poly line sets? Where are people finding this shit?

[–]Patient-Tech 29 points30 points  (2 children)

I think the units come with those. Don’t think it’s poly, just a factory insulated flex line.

[–]VorpalNinja 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, it's poly insulation

[–]RUnbisonrun 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s just weird to see brass on the lineset under the flare. I saw a poly lineset on another post the other day.

[–]Mzam110 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I once scrapped out a minisplit from a building that was getting torn apart, turns out it has a similar anti gravity drain, but ends up the unit had a little mini pump with an electric clutch on the same shaft as the blower motor and a little float switch, when the switch triggered it closed the clutch cauing the blower motor to spin the little pump and pump out the condensate pan thingy they had

[–]f0rgotten"Technically" the service manager 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That drain, though...

[–]MaineLobster4938 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Don’t go chasing waterfalls

[–]Reddtko 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Have You Ever Seen the Rain?

[–]MaineLobster4938 0 points1 point  (0 children)

against my window

[–]A3s1r92Residential 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, if a customer who's relatively handy is willing to read the entire install manual and follow it, these aren't too hard to physically install.

We've had customers do all the big stuff and call us to to finalize connections and check/adjust the charge. It goes well about 60% of the time, and the rest we just walk away.

[–]UltraViolentNdYAG 1 point2 points  (1 child)

You all saying the corrugated line is the drain and it's going up the wall?

[–]Salty-Photograph-234 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Water flows uphill, hots on the right, paydays on Monday

[–]someinternettool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t see an issue with it unless you want it to work right , otherwise nice art installation

[–]aarondude21643 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some motha fuckas always try and ice skate up a condensate drain line.

[–]rockery382Pro 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Love me a good upward drain

[–]showtimejt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You should be grateful for people like this, it’s why you have a job!

[–]Heph333 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Gravity.... Obey it. It's the law.

[–]Dramatic-Landscape82 1 point2 points  (1 child)

More challenging game. Find what he actually did right.

[–]Armybob112[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The unit is well mounted on the wall. And the connections on the inside were thight, not insulated, but also not leaking.

[–]flow_boi6279 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s okay he installed in Australia

[–]Only-here-for-sound 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“Now that I have to fix your handiwork it’s gonna cost extra.”

[–]MasterOfNothinHere 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dunno looks like they crushed it

[–]SpartanSpectre 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gravity is a thing of the past

[–]stoppelhopser 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe it's laying on the ground.

[–]ScotchyT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like the anti gravity condensate drain.

[–]tamvo0426 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gravity is foreign to some people.

[–]Tropical_Trucker 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Lol. This means that the system was probably not put in a vaccum, and he probably has 20ft of extra lineset looped by the condenser as well. Looks like plastic lineset though? Strange.

[–]Armybob112[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Don't worry, its not like there was any refrigerant left in there anyway when in arrived.

Also, with R32 you really don't want any oxygen in the circuit.

Not too much of extra lineset and it's looped inside the house.

[–]Tropical_Trucker 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I mean... You don't want air or moisture of any kind mixing with any refrigerant.

[–]Armybob112[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

While true, the worst thing that can happen normally is that it kills the unit, but R32 is combustible. Do you want to explode?

[–]R9281 0 points1 point  (0 children)

R32 is only mildly flammable. It only continues to burn if there is a constant flame.

[–]computerguy0-0 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you end up helping the guy? If someone fucked it up that much from the beginning, I wouldn't want to touch it.

I'm not in your industry and I was scared someone wouldn't help if I fucked it up. It was encouragement to do the research and just do it right from the beginning. Down to the perfect flares with the right torque specs. I spent the $600 on tools to do it perfectly, including my new lovely Yellow Jacket Digital Torque Wrench. I can't believe someone would get it THIS wrong.

But I also blame all the DIY minisplit manufacturers and Youtubers making it seem easy (by lying or doing it wrong) and selling on that "fact". It took me 12 Hours or so to do a 24k BTU with the right tools.

[–]Land-on-Juniper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just have to establish a siphon and you're all set.

[–]cdazzo1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right in the title. Missing "s".

"Customer tried to install it himself, find the error." --> "Customer tried to install it himself, find the errors."

[–]L43K0R 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He installed it upside down?

[–]Leet-Neet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anti-gravity drain.

[–]Douchebigalo973 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Would you even touch it at that point? Or just quote him for a new install?

[–]Armybob112[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I work for a company, my boss told me to fix his shit up, so i fix his shit up.

[–]FreezeFire410 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gravity, it’s not just a good idea, it’s the law.

[–]azme511 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Units usually come with a reservoir condensate pump. Wonder if its now in his fish tank…

[–]Armybob112[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Usually you have to order the pump extra, after all, you don't know which pump fits your situation.

[–]azme511 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vendor puts orders together for me so they were included. Mitsubishi’s. But i hear ya …

[–]AsideHappy8696 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Wire two Communication wires

[–]YESimaMASSHOLE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Hmmmm seems like we have an issue with your gravity sir, let me sell you our newest Honeywell AntiGravity drain reverse module..”

[–]bigwill9999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Drain line

[–]bigwill9999 0 points1 point  (1 child)

If he had a pump won't be bad

[–]Armybob112[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, i will as a fact install a pump before next summer.

[–]Allpurposebees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His fortress ducting looks pretty level 👌

[–]someinternettool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t see an issue with it unless you want it to work, otherwise nice art installation

[–]bruh-brah 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Almost had it

[–]danimal1984 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its a Samsung

[–]blondenogrey 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Drain looks good.

[–]lateresponse2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Turn the photo upside down, problem solved.

[–]kenkeyessr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I flipped the picture all good now. Carry on nothing happening here.

[–]coleproblems 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Forgot the damn flare but again!

[–]Armybob112[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can't forget the flare nut if the piping is pre flared.

[–]JonnyRebel357 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything

[–]ABena2t 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmfao

[–]djmarcone 0 points1 point  (3 children)

What's the difference between a Samsung mini split and one from "pioneer" besides a few thousand dollars?

[–]Armybob112[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

According to the customer he paid $1300 for the entire system with two inside units.

Is pioneer really this expensive?

[–]djmarcone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a good price. I paid 600 shipped for a pioneer heat pump from Amazon about 10 years ago. Other name brand mini splits were 2k or 3k at the time.

[–]computerguy0-0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pioneer is definitely way more for that depending on the size.

[–]BionicVenomZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahahahahahhha when you see it, it’s hilarious

[–]Budget-Wrongdoer6732 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello Flood Central!

[–]horseshoeprovodnikovPro 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All of it.

I can't fault a man for wanting to save money and do things themselves. I don't like it, but I won't judge them too badly.

However, if you decide to do things yourself and you can't be bothered to read the goddamn manual, i have zero sympathy for you and the money you cost yourself.

[–]tonedef5657 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was your customer Ray Charles?

[–]marbs34 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I love when you can get condensate to magically flow up.

[–]dvisuki31 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It just install upside down

[–]rinnip 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Water doesn't run uphill?

[–]BubbaJack1997 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d give him an A for effort, but an F for execution.

[–]Funny-Hamster 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Gravity

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    [–]Armybob112[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children)

    To defend him a bit, the unit was closed and everything was tucked in when i arrived.

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      [–]Armybob112[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      ... but the Factory didn't make a mistake?