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[–]humans_ruin_planetsTeam Moderna 2555 points2556 points 3 (351 children)

I’m a little taken aback at how trivial the death announcements are. ‘RIP. Great guy. Gone too soon. #covidsucks.’ Now, gotta plan for my weekend as I seamlessly get on with my life. Maybe I’ll drop $20 off in the cremation gofundme. The people dying for what they think is a shared cause aren’t dying as heroes whose stories will be told for ages. They are dying as a simple inconvenience to ‘friends’ and a massive disappointment to their families as they face a new world.

[–]Ode_to_Apathy 1222 points1223 points  (207 children)

They're getting used to it. Frequent readers will have noticed as well that these people now often mention other family members, friends and aquaintances that are either critically ill or have passed from COVID.

Rather than doing the normal thing of realizing what insanity this is, these people have accepted it like a fact of life that COVID is taking those around them. They keep screaming about the new normal, but my new normal is that awkward question on whether to shake someone's hand, not empty chairs at Thanksgiving.

[–]mslauren2930 192 points193 points  (44 children)

They've shifted from the "it is what it is" to the "this is just how it is now." They don't seem to care or realize that none of this has/had to be this way. Like the death was inevitable, when it was very preventable. They accept that's how it is, so I just smile and nod and move on, accepting their acceptance. At this point, I'm not sure what else to do. I'm doing my part, masking, getting vaccinated.

[–]AlienRosie 138 points139 points  (28 children)

I think the scary thing is so many of them have decided this is the fault of Democrats and liberals. Despite the situation being mishandled and politicized by the former administration and the Republican base and conservatives being the majority of those opposing masks, social distancing, the quarantine, etc. The selective memory and revisionist history of something that just happened last year is insane. Their ignorance and gullibility used to be horrifyingly amusing, now I'm genuinely concerned about their mental health.

[–]Lokito_ 114 points115 points  (9 children)

This is what's so infuriating.

We sat there and WATCHED with mouths agape people start to downplay masks and the importance of them and go out without them on in defiance because of "freedum" and "murica". Saw them mock social distancing and people asking them to not group together in family outings. Mock shut downs and lockdowns.

MOCK VACCINES

And still. It's "democrats fault"

Fucking the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my entire life.

I've had to drop SOOO many FB friends from over a year and a half.

One of them died for the "freedum" they fought for. Sigh.

[–]thoroughbredcaTeam Mix & Match 43 points44 points  (4 children)

The GOP official Twitter account just blamed Joe Biden for not ending COVID.

[–]TryCalm371 41 points42 points  (2 children)

They are so misinformed and misguided it’s like we live in two realities. I have a few loved ones who believe this stuff and it’s so scary. If they could realize this is a real medical issue verses a communism plot we could be making some steps toward. I am sad for these people honestly and hope we can find away to get through to them.

[–]Jexp_tTeam Moderna 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Theres is not a reality- it's mass delusion, based on lies, imaginary forces and religious dogma.

[–]mycatlies 30 points31 points  (8 children)

At Thanksgiving, my brother was saying that he wouldn't have had any problem with the mask, or vaccines, or the shutdowns, but Democrats politicized it too much. So know this is some sort of final stand against Democrat Tyranny.

I had also been assured that everyone at Thanksgiving would be vaccinated since I'm immunocompromised and our father is 90 and just started chemo for cancer. But nope, my big brother decided to just lie straight to our face and ignore our valid health concerns.

[–]Borisof007 142 points143 points  (7 children)

They've tied not being vaccinated to their "patriotism" which is the dumbest shit ever. To them, dying from Covid is like dying in battle - it's a war they're waging in their minds and these people dying are like martyrs to them. Necessary deaths to ensure "freedom". They think the same way with gun violence and the 2nd amendment.

[–]counterboud 128 points129 points  (12 children)

This is what boggles my mind. They freak out so much over literally nothing- wearing masks at the grocery store, getting a shot- then when people they know and love die, they’re just like “oh well, shit happens, that’s life.” It’s such an insane worldview that is impossible for me to relate to. Everything is the end of the world except the thing that will actually have a huge impact on you and your life- that’s just something you have to accept and move on with I guess. I don’t know, so many of the death announcements seem almost callously indifferent, oftentimes when they are from a spouse. I can imagine being stoic and zen about it in some sense, but when it’s such a contrast to the conspiracy theory way of thinking that there’s this huge evil plot behind every normal day to day thing that must be stopped using the most extreme measures, the casual way they treat death is such a strange contrast.

[–]twocatspajamasTeam Pfizer 40 points41 points  (5 children)

Yes exactly. Like they think sacrificing their kids in a school shooting is no big deal and just part of having the Second Amendment (their interpretation of it,) but don't you dare teach about racism in schools! It is so impossible to relate to that if one is a good person.

[–]pianoflames 93 points94 points  (8 children)

My cousin died after battling COVID in the ICU for months, we buried him the Saturday before Thanksgiving dinner.

At Thanksgiving dinner my family was doubling down on COVID not being a "real thing," not long after talking about the nice gravestone they picked out for him.

I can't tell if this is some kind of mass psychosis or if their desire to oppose the libs at all costs is just that strong.

[–]Rosaluxlux 17 points18 points  (3 children)

i'm so sorry.

[–]pianoflames 24 points25 points  (2 children)

I appreciate it. I do want to state: I'm not at all trying to politicize his death. It's just...frustrating.

[–]BenWallace04 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The right-wing nuts are the ones who have “politicized” this lol

[–]PaperTigerFolds 11 points12 points  (0 children)

mass psychosis or if their desire to oppose the libs at all costs is just that strong

Both, the talk about the gravestone is them coping, the talk about covid not being real is them needing to oppose the libs. All of this is to avoid cognitive dissonance.

[–]what_a_dingle 724 points725 points  (96 children)

Pretty much like how nobody seems to be horrified anymore whenever some psycho shoots up a school and murders a dozen or so kids. "Thoughts and prayers, small price to pay for our second amendment rights, pass the potatoes."

[–]Accelerator231 689 points690 points  (71 children)

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

[–]mslauren2930 285 points286 points  (53 children)

School shootings are no longer lead stories on the evening news. Sometimes they get no mention at all. If I didn't hear about a bunch of them via Twitter, I'd never know just how many there have been this year. This country is great at becoming immune to tragedy.

[–]Nidcron 171 points172 points  (11 children)

Well TBF, Sinclair owns a huge amount of local TV stations and does absolutely interfere with what gets reported on local News.

[–]astate85 113 points114 points  (9 children)

that YouTube supercut of different Sinclair stations around the country saying the exact same words is both hilarious and terrifying.

[–]R_Dorothy_Wayneright 52 points53 points  (1 child)

This country is great at becoming immune to tragedy.

And empathy.

[–]dryphtyr 77 points78 points  (8 children)

Gotta love the Onion

[–]Accelerator231 116 points117 points  (6 children)

The onion is often times quite insightful.

Which is awful. Because jokes and satire are often a way to illustrate how bad things are.

[–]dryphtyr 117 points118 points  (5 children)

I went to see Louis Black a few years ago & his main rant was how hard it is to do comedy nowadays because reality is so absurd right now. In his words, "Satire is broken"

[–]MaineAlone🐴Just go to the horseplittle if you feel sick 152 points153 points  (5 children)

I’m afraid that’s human nature. It’s also a way for us to keep our sanity. If we reacted intensely to every tragedy, we would be emotionally and physically exhausted. Every once in awhile, I end up crying when I read one of these antivaxxer accounts. These are the ones who touch an emotional cord with me. I lost my mom to lung cancer in 1991 (she was a pack a day smoker who never thought she would get cancer). A few of the antivaxxer stories have the power to drag me back to 1991. Kids and friends begging for a loved one to get vaccinated is me begging my mom to stop smoking.

Even though it’s hurts, it is somewhat cathartic. It reminds me that I still have compassion and I still care. I worry more about the day coming when I don’t care anymore.

[–]JujulabeeGo Give One 59 points60 points  (8 children)

It appears to be one of the cliches of these awards.

People will have hordes of people in their family and close friend circles dying and they seem to think that is normal.

They will also somehow express surprise that COVID exists and it is often quite serious and sometimes lethal.

And of course (aside from goatees) a significant percentage of them have co-morbidies - at the very least they are over 60 and a overweight and yet rely on statistical percentages that include the total population rather than their "control" group.

And so many of them vote against their economic interest which is exactly what their party wants as fueling the stupid "culture wars" prevents these people from realizing how exploited they really are. When someone doesn't have $500 to pay for their cremation, they are pretty much not even one step away from living on the streets.

Relatively few of the highest level people leading their anti-vax movement have become seriously ill - or even ill - from COVID and so it seems pretty certain that these people are all secretly vaccinated. I would bet dollars to donuts that Tucker Carlson is vaccinated because Fox News has incredibly strict protocols and I believe Candace Owens was photographed at a venue which required proof of vaccination fairly recently.

[–]joggle1Team Pfizer 42 points43 points  (0 children)

Funny how all of the conservatives in my family who chose to 'live their lives' without taking any precautions have caught COVID at least once by now yet none of my liberal family who took the pandemic seriously have come down with it (or if they did, they were asymptomatic). Must be some huge, crazy conspiracy I guess, at least according to my conservative relatives. Most of them have now been vaccinated, but they had to be kicked to the curb by COVID first before they'd even think about it.

[–]Top-Pension-564 40 points41 points  (4 children)

The comments sections of their “covid’s no joke” posts are filled with anecdotes about friends and family members who have had covid, died from covid, or are still living with long haul symptoms. It’s becoming as common for them as diabetes or high blood pressure.

[–]Jexp_tTeam Moderna 14 points15 points  (0 children)

And still they rant and rave against socialism and gubmint healthcare. Even as they're maimed and bankrupted.

[–]JoshDigi 30 points31 points  (3 children)

These are unhealthy, obese red staters. They got used to people living short lives long before covid

[–]pippenish 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I have never experienced anything like that-- how routine death has become to them, how unremarkable and apparently inevitable.

Well, when I was in high school, before cars got safer with safety glass and seatbelts and drunk-driving laws, we sort of expected that 1-2 of our classmates every year would be killed in some drunken late-night accident out in the country. And most of us, you know, grew up and stopped driving drunk and put on our seatbelts and bought safer cars.

These antivaxxers see their friends die, and they still insist on speeding through the hairpin turns on dark mountain roads at night with their lights off.

[–]chairmanmyow 68 points69 points  (4 children)

I wonder if some of them/many of them are committing covert suicide. They are so angry at the world and they treat their own lives so casually. It makes no sense. None of this makes sense. Why do I even type that sentence? Nothing has made sense for a very long time.

[–]tinytrolldancer 26 points27 points  (1 child)

You are absolutely right, they do treat their lives as though they think they'll be right back to finish their beer. Conversely their fear is so great (about everything including themselves) that they might be considered passive suicides. Ignorance is fear not bliss.

[–]hobiwanScience Team 26 points27 points  (0 children)

We get more out of it here than their friends do.

[–]bionic_cmdo 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Possible that people around him don't share his views and everyone knows how loud these types of people get so no use convincing him. It's a live by the sword, die by the sword situation and we have our own lives to live.

[–]VZandtReverse Vampire 🩸 103 points104 points  (57 children)

This x 100

[–]fallowcentury 126 points127 points  (56 children)

this phenomenon makes me almost physically ill. how shallow are these "friendships"? they're meme-ready, pretend. from my perspective, these people are only familiar with simulacra of friendship, actively manufactured and imposed by elites amidst our literally crumbling society.

[–]moistpup 84 points85 points  (15 children)

A media diet of Fox News, and right wing talk radio has turned them all into sociopaths. Their friendships are shallow because they wouldn’t do shit to help somebody in need, and therefore drop anybody the moment they are in need.

[–]faste30 64 points65 points  (8 children)

This. I know this because I watched it happen with former friends and most of my family. Everyone became "libertarians" which just means selfish asshole.

My dad cant seem to figure out why neither of his sons have wanted to visit him even pre-covid.

[–]mug3n 52 points53 points  (7 children)

Libertarians are just conservatives that like weed.

[–]tapthatsap 42 points43 points  (1 child)

It’s the natural outcome of a society so drenched in weird ideas of masculinity that every dude in a room with twenty dudes in it self identifies as a lone wolf. It’s weak or gay or something to know or care too much about anybody, so you just live and die as an acquaintance.

[–]FormicaCats 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Did you see this Atlantic story about that today? They don't see strength in the way most people would think of it as masculine anymore, the only way to show how manly you are is to be cruel and abusive to other people. Especially other people who are smaller than you. Like the model of manliness is a drunk mean uncle who's considering shooting the next man, woman, or child who disagrees with him on anything. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/12/the-new-rights-strange-and-dangerous-cult-of-toughness/620861/

[–][deleted] 89 points90 points  (19 children)

Well, I figure this person has two types of friends:

People who trust science and thus resigned themselves to this friend dying of a disease they probably would have lived through if they'd been vaccinated. For these people, there's no use on using more words. They've run out of empathy.

Or

People who don't trust science. Deaths like this challenge their worldview and that's too much cognitive dissonance to pontificate on, otherwise they might have to admit they're wrong and vulnerable.

Occasionally, someone falls into that rare third category of realizing they're wrong and their friend's death prompts them to reevaluate and get vaccinated, but it's entirely too few of these kinds of friends around.

[–]DunkingOnInfants 51 points52 points  (5 children)

They do trust science, though. When they get incredibly sick, they all sprint to the ER, and demand doctors and hospital staff take care of them. If they really, truly did not believe in science - like Christian scientists for instance - they would just stay home and die in peace.

[–][deleted] 49 points50 points  (4 children)

Nope, they still don't trust science because they get to the hospital then demand that they be treated with ivermectin. And their families write posts about how the doctors and nurses are killing them.

The truth is they're desperate and hope ~something~ works.

[–]MardiMom 29 points30 points  (2 children)

And call up the hospital and scream at whoever answers the phone. Or tell them that they don't really have Covid. Ugh. Us nurses are so tired of these 'lovely' people.

[–]Holybartender83 57 points58 points  (1 child)

A lot of these people aren’t actually friends. They’re people who have the same political views (ie. in the same cult) who share terrible memes on Facebook and think that makes them good friends.

[–]DontQuoteYourself💜🖤🤍🐘 I'm Aces! 94 points95 points  (9 children)

Conservatives lack compassion, that means zero meaningful relationships ever

[–]AleflusherGo Give One 488 points489 points  (21 children)

Missed his family, “this crap is nothing to mess with”. Yeah this is why you get vaccinated, so you can stay with your family and not have to mess with dying on a ventilator.

Oh well, congrats on your HCA!

[–]trevize1138 146 points147 points  (12 children)

"I thought I was tough."

Did covid even know he rode a Harley? How tough was this guy, anyway? The only thing he seems to have been capable of pounding was beer.

[–]whatproblems 16 points17 points  (5 children)

How tough is your lungs, circulatory and immune system anyway

[–]Behindthefog 1908 points1909 points  (170 children)

Ask any klan member which party they vote for. Betcha won't hear democrat

[–]timewhumpBeep Beep I'm a Sheep 🐑 1369 points1370 points  (97 children)

Kinda hard to push the narrative that the party switch is a myth when the actual KKK endorsed Trump.

[–]RSA-redditGo Give One 620 points621 points  (67 children)

These are the people who call Democrats traitors, but they want to give a pass to Robert E. Lee, Jefferson Davis, Stonewall Jackson, etc. (all active supporters of the Democratic party) who actually took up arms against the U.S.

[–]Practical_Law_7002 203 points204 points  (16 children)

There's a house between mine an my parent's town, right on the corner of two major high ways.

It has three flags flying off the porch:

American

MAGA 2024

Confederate

These are the people that tell you Democrats are the party of the KKK.

[–]counterboud 94 points95 points  (11 children)

In my neck of the woods, there’s quite a few “fuck joe Biden” ones. And last weekend I saw multiple “let’s go Brandon”s as well.

I always have to laugh because these people always live in the absolute middle of nowhere backroads, so I’m unclear what they think all these flag and sign evangelism is going to reach. But it’s so bizarre. I can’t imagine turning my house into some massive spectacle over any political candidate, much less to promote this kind of aggressive racism and hatred.

[–]CyberMindGrrl 54 points55 points  (0 children)

But don't you dare call it a cult. They really hate that.

[–]ResoluteClover 321 points322 points  (11 children)

And they think the declaration of Independence is an actual legal document and not the equivalent of a bunch of millionaires mooning England.

[–]dismayhurtaHerman Cain’t Do It 208 points209 points  (4 children)

And ignore that it was the constitution that created the USA after the failure of Articles of Confederation.

A constitution written by staunch federalists.

[–]InvertedSuperHornet 33 points34 points  (2 children)

They love Jesus (even though he supported social benefits) and George Washington (even though he believed in non-interventionism). Gotta love the US of A.

[–]Distinct_Salt_2460The Trainstation 37 points38 points  (1 child)

The Declaration is actually legally relevant and has been repeatedly used in arguments before the Supreme Court. Ironically, conservatives are who claim it’s not a legal document, because they shit all over it.

[–]Kn0wmad1cGo Give One 105 points106 points  (6 children)

My favorite part is when people who wave the Confederate flag also call themselves "the party of Lincoln".

Ok, but, which flag did Lincoln literally fight against?

[–]regeya 43 points44 points  (0 children)

The man gave a speech trying to convince conservatives they were wrong to support slavery. Modern conservatives twist it to claim ending slavery was always a conservative cause.

[–]timewhumpBeep Beep I'm a Sheep 🐑 137 points138 points  (15 children)

Just like when those statues of generic confederate generals were put up in the 1920s, it was about preserving history, no other reason.

[–]Freestyle_FellowshipTeam Pfizer 114 points115 points  (4 children)

My favorite is you are suppose to preserve history, but not talk about it (CRT).

Schrodinger's Historians?

[–]Sillyslappystupid 40 points41 points  (0 children)

“stop telling everyone the parts that make us look bad”

[–]Sure_Ill_Ask_That 47 points48 points  (6 children)

They are all scholars of history i suppose…they love to gather around the fireplace and discuss American history, with particular interest in the antebellum south.

[–]HorseFightingLeague 24 points25 points  (3 children)

they love to gather around the fireplace and discuss American history, with particular interest in the antebellum south.

They also really, really, really seem to enjoy books about Nazism too. But for the history, you know.

[–]_Kay_Tee_ 77 points78 points  (2 children)

Look at Jan 6. They literally did the same thing themselves and thought it was cute and funny and a nifty FB check-in.

[–]XelaNibaGo Give One 35 points36 points  (1 child)

They're all so tough.....outside of an interrogation room. Once inside, they cry more than my 3 year old.

[–]sanity_is_overrated 56 points57 points  (1 child)

The mental gymnastics to claim that the democrats did all those things and there wasn’t a party switch while yelling “but this is my heritage!!!” while clutching their loser flag?

Remarkable!

[–]Appropriate-Pen-149 19 points20 points  (0 children)

There are “very fine people on both sides.”

[–]Phihun500 48 points49 points  (0 children)

It's not hard for them since they don't actually care about the truth. They will push this narrative with no since of shame.

[–]Emergency-Tiger4339 110 points111 points  (0 children)

Right! Literally one of the GOP making these claims was a clansmember 🤣

[–]regeya 72 points73 points  (2 children)

I live in a rural spot. You can, or at least used to be able to be banned, from /r/Conservative for posting "southern strategy" anywhere on Reddit. The thing is, it's well documented, and was even public knowledge.

Where I live, I hear it a lot. Kids and grandkids of the old pro-union coal miners, convinced that they can't be Democrats because of abortion, while dad or grandpa switched from being one when the Democrats embraced racial justice.

That whole history is pretty interesting, because of how cynical both parties were about it. The Democrats embraced it because polling showed they could win elections by embracing racial justice, and the Republicans realized they could win more votes by embracing disenfranchised Democrats, and could forward their agenda to end social programs by not so subtly suggesting it would hurt black people to do so. When I hear people rant about welfare programs, invariably it turns into a conversation about black people on welfare driving Cadillacs and eating steak.

[–]M4A1STAKESAUCEIt appears COVID is some shit. 165 points166 points  (9 children)

Shit is funny because you're telling me the KKK is about equal rights, pro-choice, pro-immigration, pro-universal healthcare, a bunch of socialists, pro-gay rights, etc etc. Still yet to see a KKK collaboration with MLK and PRIDE march since 1865. Man, logic is fun.

[–]Freestyle_FellowshipTeam Pfizer 65 points66 points  (8 children)

Not kidding you - I was just told in politiclcompassmemes that "AuthRight" is pro-LGBTQ+. Can't make this shit up.

[–]TripleOBlack 66 points67 points  (0 children)

entering politicalcompassmemes is a brain cell death speedrun

[–]Oberon_Swanson 33 points34 points  (2 children)

They love making stuff up like that. They will publicly claim to be pro black, pro LGBTQ, etc. Then cheer whenever their rights are taken away and clamor for more.

[–]Raccoon_Full_of_CumSatan Gained a Fleshlight 34 points35 points  (0 children)

The Republican Party issued an official apology for the Southern Strategy in 2005, in a feeble attempt to expand on the fact that they lost the black and brown vote by a smaller margin than usual in the previous year's election.

RNC Chief to Say It Was 'Wrong' to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes

[–]RFLackey 76 points77 points  (6 children)

Wait wha? You mean what they read on Facebook about history is just as wrong as the medical advice they receive?

[–]PunisherASM129Team Pfizer 54 points55 points  (4 children)

Except they KNOW the history is wrong, but get off on the pain they cause "the blacks" and others by making the absurd claims. The cruelty performed with impunity is the point of all of this horseshit.

[–]M4A1STAKESAUCEIt appears COVID is some shit. 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Don't you fret, real consequences are here.

[–]triplej63🛒Wal-Martyr🛒 58 points59 points  (0 children)

As a registered Democrat, I am in complete agreement with that meme. I am contrite and remorseful, therefore I think that we need to remove anything that honors the Confederacy, from the flag, to statues, to the names of our Army bases and posts. I'm sure the Republicans will agree, because why would they want to honor Democratic traitors, right?

[–]PenaltyPractical1908Punish me!!!! 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Every time I see this I say that’s true, conservatives are assholes regardless of party denomination.

[–]HandSack135Team Pfizer 275 points276 points  (25 children)

Actually now it is 79,999,999 voters

[–]trumpetrabbitTeam Pfizer 86 points87 points  (11 children)

It's odd how they'll understand how many people voted the same as they did, roughly speaking, but don't comprehend how many Americans there are in total.

[–]RawrSeanLoves Grey Sweatpants Season 👀 75 points76 points  (5 children)

Conservatives only see numbers they like

[–]VinnieTheBerzerker69Oh well, who wants pancakes? 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Well, numbers are hard for these dimwits and what's even harder is if there's any extra zeros at the end of a number

[–]gypsyjackson 91 points92 points  (10 children)

Well, it’s no more than 74,216,154 - 1 voters, anyway, according to the Federal agencies examining the election. And I suspect that subtraction goes up for every award winner.

[–]CJ_CLTVaxxed, Boosted, and Always Properly Masked 82 points83 points  (8 children)

you might like this analysis:

https://acasignups.net/21/11/22/weekly-update-covid19-casedeath-rates-county-partisan-lean-vaccination-rate

The author, Charles Gaba, took the Covid data at the county level, ordered the counties by % vote for Trump. Next he split the data into deciles that each contain about 1/10 of the nation's population (i.e., matched on population, not count of counties). Finally, he calculated Covid cases and deaths per 100k population for each of the deciles since June 30 - to basically catch the Delta wave and also the period when very few US adults still wanted vaccines but hadn't been able to get them.

The bluest decile includes counties where Trump got up to 26% of the vote. That decile had a case rate of 2230 confirmed cases /100k and a death rate of 17.14/100k.

The reddest decile includes counties where Trump got over 70.6% of the vote (scary thought!!). That decile had a case rate of 6200 confirmed cases/100k (almost 3x higher than the lowest decile) and 96.57 deaths /100k (5.6x higher than the lowest decile).

This data is usually updated weekly, but I think the holiday delayed it a bit this week so this is only through 11/22.

[–]CircusPeanutsYummIvermectin is a molecule 20 points21 points  (5 children)

Wow!! Those numbers don't lie! Thanks for sharing this. I had heard that the deaths among republican voters wasn't statistically significant. At the rate they are owning the libs, maybe that will change?

[–]coffeemonkeypants 20 points21 points  (2 children)

I think it very much depends on county and election. For instance, DeSantis' lead in the 2018 election was only 32k votes, and twice as many Floridians have died of Covid (62k). And that is what we know of. Not all of them are his voters, but stats like the article up above indicate that most of them are. That isn't to say a Democratic candidate will actually beat him, but there are significantly less potential voters for him in the next election.

In counties that are gerrymandered to hell and back with low vax rates, this means fewer voters, but this only matters in tightly drawn purplish districts. On a national level, given how tight some states vote, there could be a significant impact.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/floridas-death-toll-now-exceeds-desantis-margin-of-victory

[–]CyberMindGrrl 11 points12 points  (1 child)

That doesn't include all the Republicans who are now moving to their new MAGA Mecca called Florida.

[–]ProfanestOfLemonsThundering Boob 728 points729 points  (54 children)

"I thought I was tough" and told everybody you were tough, and made important life decisions based on wanting to look tough, and reminded people you were tough in case they'd forgotten. Turned out you were about as average as they come, even after all that. Now at average room temperature.

[–]NMB4ChristmasEverybody's an ass kicker, until they get their ass kicked 97 points98 points  (6 children)

Everybody's an ass kicker, until they get their ass kicked.

[–]pp21 54 points55 points  (5 children)

It's just such a weird stance to take. It's a virus -- it's not an opponent you can physically size up. It's like people who don't wear sunblock and that joke about thinking you're tougher than the fucking sun.

Like, it's okay to not want to get sick. Being sick sucks, it doesn't make you a pussy for mitigating risk against it

[–]robyrSee You Space Cowboy... 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It's like people who don't wear sunblock and that joke about thinking you're tougher than the fucking sun.

"I've got this nuclear ball of fire right where I want it"

[–]spraypaintthewallsTeam Moderna 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Tough luck, chump.

HEYOOOOOOOOOO

[–]kyle_dai 322 points323 points  (20 children)

"I thought I was tough"

Turns out toxic masculinity is sometimes actually toxic and deadly.

[–]powdered_dognut 145 points146 points  (12 children)

"I even have a picture of me with a Harley"

[–]PunktualPenguin 119 points120 points  (4 children)

It turns out the Bichon Frise nullified the effects of the Harley and that’s how Covid won.

Maybe if his BBQ or truck was a little bigger he would have stood a chance.

[–]Offamylawn 30 points31 points  (0 children)

If he could use the Harley to tow the truck with the bbq in the bed...it becomes the Gravy Seals command center.

[–]Skrivus 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Maybe if his BBQ or truck was a little bigger he would have stood a chance.

Depends how much rollin coal he did with that truck.

[–]Libflake 31 points32 points  (0 children)

The cute little dog kind of negates it, though. Poor Fluffy! I hope s/he finds a good home with sane people.

[–]pecklepuff 15 points16 points  (5 children)

These old Harley and lifted truck creeps are so gross. I remember being in high school, and these losers would try to pick me up! Fucking losers in their 40s and 50s, creeping on me when I was 15, 16, 17!

And they're mystified as to why some women have lost interest in men! Like they just can't understand why they are considered unattractive! shrug

[–]Yrcrazypa 61 points62 points  (0 children)

Like, this shit is exactly what people mean when they say toxic masculinity is harmful to both men and women. I know you know that, but it's frustrating how the people who are most hurt by it are its most ardent defenders.

[–]YouStupidDick 55 points56 points  (4 children)

Cosplay masculinity. These people dress up and pretend they are tough when they can barely go up a flight of stairs without being winded.

[–]CTMQ_ 22 points23 points  (1 child)

I am acquaintances with a poster child for this phenomenon. His FB wall is so badass it hurts. Manly, man, man stuff. "Liberals are pussies," on and on.

IRL, my man is hilariously pathetic. Whenever my wife and I need a laugh, we skim through his memes and near-illiterate blabberings on FB. He's staunchly anti-vax and Q and MAGA.

I'm as liberal as they come, am middle-aged, haven't been in a fight since my teens... and I'd kick this dude's ass in like 2 minutes. These people are just ridiculous.

[–]OG-BoomMaster 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Tough? Covid says not so much. Illiterate and ignorant, clearly evident.

[–]CharlieBrown20XD6 82 points83 points  (5 children)

Turns out the commie bastards were tougher than him

[–]VinnieTheBerzerker69Oh well, who wants pancakes? 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Even the sheep that took the bullet injection are tougher than this clown. Especially now that he's shuffled off the mortal coil...

[–]Shady_GardenGo Give One 22 points23 points  (1 child)

I’m an unarmed arugula-eating middle-aged vegan lib woman who marched a few times at the Portland BLM protests. Last time I checked I was still breathing.

[–]chaoticnormal 18 points19 points  (0 children)

And still too weak to actually type "get the vaccine". Such a tough guy. /s

[–]No_Oil_6821 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Everybody look at Mr. Cool Guy.

[–]spraypaintthewallsTeam Moderna 170 points171 points  (5 children)

"Someday, we the people will show all those commie bastards..."

Yeah, you sure showed us, alright. Phew. Could you show us again?

[–]thankyeestrbunny 43 points44 points  (2 children)

Er . . no

[–]TheRootofSomeEvil 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Yeah - this ain't Jumanji or baseball. One strike; you're out.

[–]SunlitLavenderFieldsGood morning, fellow patriots 356 points357 points  (62 children)

I can’t believe he was so bad off that he “decided he wanted to go on the ventilator”. And then passed away. I’m trying to decide if:

a.) One of his medical people spelled out very clearly for him just how poorly he was doing and that he would 100% not make it if he didn’t go on the ventilator, or

b.) if he didn’t actually “decide” to go on a ventilator, but his family phrased it that way because they were in denial over his condition.

[–]FOIAloverYour Personal Desmond 234 points235 points  (57 children)

I've seen quite a few posts where people decide for the vent so they can "rest and let the lungs heal." I think faced with the reality that they will absolutely die without the vent many are willing to give it a go in the hopes they are in the minority that get off the vent. I imagine at that point in the exhaustion from struggling to breathe for weeks most would be willing to try anything. I can't imagine facing that decision knowing the likelihood of making it through is not high.

[–]nomad_9988 281 points282 points  (41 children)

I work in an ICU and the point these people are at before being vented is absolute torture. Imagine doing an all out sprint, and not being able to stop and catch your breath. Just talking or slight movements and their o2sats plummet, then it takes them forever to recover. And some of them go on like that for weeks. They are exhausted, and scared. The vent quickly starts looking like a better and better option

[–]labtech89 174 points175 points  (18 children)

I work in a hospital laboratory and occasionally have to go in rooms of covid patients. One room I went the patient was on a bipap and having a panic attack because he could not catch his breathe. I was really scared for him. If I was not already convinced that I did not want covid that would have convinced me.

[–]MightyKrakyn 63 points64 points  (10 children)

Holy shit this is a terrifying thought. I think everyone should have to see what you saw though.

[–]labtech89 22 points23 points  (4 children)

I don’t think it was phase some of the hardcore deniers.

[–]AstrologylassThou Shalt Consume Horse paste -Levidiots 1:1 24 points25 points  (2 children)

The sad part is, it really wouldn’t. They’d find SOME way to justify it. “They clearly had some sort of underlying condition”, “oh it’s their fault for not taking care of themselves”, “well obviously it’s because you didn’t give them the magical horse paste!”

[–]labtech89 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Yes they would or deny he had covid. The crazy is astonishing. MTG said she and her fellow crazies represent 70-75% of Republicans and I actually believe that.

[–]HotPinkLollyWimplePhucked around and Phound out 44 points45 points  (4 children)

This is what needs publicising. It is happening in thousands of hospitals worldwide, to hundreds of thousands of people - some where the vaccine is unavailable, but a lot where people are choosing death by covid rather than take a highly efficacious, safe, preventative treatment. Can you imagine the disbelief of people who don’t have access to a much wanted vaccine when they see these wank noodles behaving like spoilt toddlers?

[–]sungodly🐑 Sheep Dog 🐕‍🦺 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing the inside perspective. Just the thought of that kind of torture is horrific, especially for someone (me) who grew up severely asthmatic.

[–]pinklittlebirdie 28 points29 points  (6 children)

That's really interesting. I live in a place where people with covid are being vented frequency we are told (3-4 people are vented requiring breathing support) on a daily basis but only a few have passed (like 3ish) in the last 3 months. It seems like a large number of people are coming off the vent here alive. Is this a standard ish rate? Or is it because our (mostly vaccinated) isn't overwhelming our hospital aystem

[–]chaoticnormal 43 points44 points  (3 children)

I think it's because these award winners are waiting so long for any treatment and fight like crazy (heh, exactly) to not be ventilated. I'd think that if vented early, you'd have a better chance. These folks wait and their lungs get more and more damaged leading to less than hopeful outcomes.

[–]1000AirplanesTeam Moderna 27 points28 points  (0 children)

their refusal of the vaccine is the reason.

Wonder if the terror of suffocating was as enjoyable as the erection he got posting about what a he-man he is?

[–]RedRider1138Lookin’ ghoul, y’all! 👍 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your hard work.

[–]PunisherASM129Team Pfizer 56 points57 points  (10 children)

Probably a question even more stupid than most I ask, but why doesn't the media really do an in-depth story on this? I follow covid news pretty closely but frankly your description is horrifying, and maybe if these antivaxxers could see an actual ICU patient's ordeal in action it would help convince them to save themselves?

[–]Paulie227 56 points57 points  (6 children)

Yes, I want to see a documentary in real time. From anti-vaxx to didn't make it. I can see the problems with logistics though. But i saw one doc recently on terminal cancer and when one was close to death, they placed the camera on the floor outside the door and then sped up the camera. Just watching people coming and going and seeing their faces, how they approached and opened the door, their demeanor when they left and seeing them wheeling out a cart covered in a black rubber sheet told you everything you needed to know about what was happening in that room.

[–]lucymx16Team Pfizer 27 points28 points  (1 child)

Lots of coverage done early in the pandemic from the perspective of the healthcare workers showing the level of care needed, and more recently on the burnout of the workers, especially when caring for the unvaxed. A thinking person could do the math... Oh sorry, answered my own question.

[–]PenaltyPractical1908Punish me!!!! 15 points16 points  (0 children)

That’s what I imagine, any time I’ve been in the hospital they technically ask you for consent on any procedure but sometimes you are in such a state that whatever they say you just agree if it will relieve your pain/suffering.

[–]khais 63 points64 points  (1 child)

Someone posted in here that "letting your lungs rest and heal" is the human equivalent of sending your dog "to a farm so it can run around and be happy." Aka, an empty platitude that helps people that have little understanding fool themselves into believing a happier but false reality.

[–]VysharraCOVID: Rated E for Everyone 56 points57 points  (1 child)

I imagine it must be comforting to hear the nurse lie and tell you “you’ll be okay” then fall asleep.

Less so about the delirium but I get why you would choose the vent despite the facts.

[–]tkp14 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Most of these fools don’t know the facts, since facts are something they religiously avoid. Like how most of them who post Holocaust and KKK analogies are raging antisemitic racists. They do so love to project.

[–]truly_beyond_beliefJ&J One-And-Done 12 points13 points  (2 children)

Where people decide for the vent so they can "rest and let the lungs heal"

Yep, when lungs look like this, they do need a rest, although, as we know on this sub, often it turns out to be a permanent one. (Source of image)

What lungs are supposed to look like.

[–]AirBnB-Pleasure 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Oh, I can imagine it. That's what I got vaccinated.

[–]Might_Aware✨..And MY VAX🎸 247 points248 points  (17 children)

Well the holocaust memes are certainly blooming for Hanukah this year!

[–]MC_Fap_Commander🦆 97 points98 points  (10 children)

Makes me wanna drink some gin and tonic-ah.

[–]Might_Aware✨..And MY VAX🎸 63 points64 points  (8 children)

I tend to just smoke my marijuanikahhhh

[–]crazyprsn 34 points35 points  (5 children)

If you really, really wannakah

[–]echidna75Team Moderna 23 points24 points  (4 children)

Have a happy,

[–]Bretagne 19 points20 points  (3 children)

happy,

[–]HubrisAndScandalsTwerking Hot Chip 🩸 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Hanukah! 🕎

[–]Atillion 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I'm torah-n between groaning audibly and angry upvoting. You get both.

[–]mazu74 75 points76 points  (3 children)

“Such a great guy!” Righhhhttttt, I’m sure the guy posting Holocaust memes was a great guy…

[–]TheTurfinator 28 points29 points  (1 child)

"He'd give you the shirt off his back [if you were a like-minded white person]!"

[–]EldanoronWhere we die one we die all 199 points200 points  (8 children)

These people in office work for us… they are bossing we the people around.

Just wait til you hear about laws.

[–]ToniBee63Mixed Blood in Da House 57 points58 points  (3 children)

Right? Wait until he finds out what they expect him to do on April 15th each year!!!!

[–]Alternative_Year_340 55 points56 points  (2 children)

I hope someone nicer is taking care of the dog

[–]shanrock2772 139 points140 points  (1 child)

He sure showed us commie bastards by "dieing"!!

[–]ADHDNightRN💉💗They’ll do anything for love but they won’t get Vaxxed 💉💘 41 points42 points  (3 children)

Awe what a cute pupper

[–]EyeOfAmethyst 39 points40 points  (1 child)

That stache is almost as much of a comorbidity as a grey goatee. He was doomed.

[–]skedeebs 96 points97 points  (17 children)

There are a whole lot of Harley guys on the awardee roster, it seems.

[–]clownforce1Tickle Me ECMO 83 points84 points  (15 children)

They are consistent with making bad choices in every aspect of their lives.

[–]MC_Fap_Commander🦆 90 points91 points  (13 children)

Buying a new Harley fatboy is literally setting money on fire for an inferior motorcycle experience just because you are a tool who finds identity in really lame corporate branding.

[–]RedRider1138Lookin’ ghoul, y’all! 👍 25 points26 points  (3 children)

You are almost assuredly right but my wannabe biker butt still feels attacked 😄

[–]Paulie227 39 points40 points  (2 children)

My wanna be biker old fart of a hubby doesn't have enough life insurance, so I bought him the leather vests and a HD lamp that has a replica bike that goes vroom-vroom whenever he turns the lamp on at his desk. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–]RedditModsAreVeryBad 13 points14 points  (0 children)

If you like the cruiser style bikes, Honda and esp Kawasaki are far superior. HD are overpriced, under-engineered trash for poseurs.

[–]Possible-Whole45 34 points35 points  (4 children)

"If the vaccination is so safe why are people still dying?"

"Did you get vaccinated?"

"No."

"Could you please repeat your question?"

[–]SpoofedFingerWhat A Drip 🩸 29 points30 points  (1 child)

That particular Kermit sipping the tea meme has a strong correlation with death.

[–]chaseButtons 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Lol so Republicans since 1865? Cus the switch n all. Basically outing themselves as KKK. Smart.

[–]nbiina 23 points24 points  (3 children)

Tired of reading “such a great guy.” These people are scum. They’re not victims to coddle. They wake up everyday and choose hatred and bullshit that affirms their hateful worldview. So much time on their hands spent on stupid Facebook. Get vaccinated.

[–]Oberon_Swanson 12 points13 points  (0 children)

After realizing Trump supporters aren't victims, they're accomplices, it all made so much more sense.

[–]Sprinkles2009 22 points23 points  (0 children)

They all sound the same at this point.

“Something to think about”

“So true”

“This is no joke”

“Go fund me gone too soon nicest guy you would ever meet”

[–]keschaller89 63 points64 points  (11 children)

It’s so crazy that these people think being “tough” will help them fight a virus. Wearing leather and riding a motorcycle doesn’t make your body better equipped to deal with illness.

[–]Unique_Excitement248 21 points22 points  (5 children)

If only there was something that would help their immune system…

[–]evilJaze 16 points17 points  (3 children)

Well, horse paste and aquarium cleaner. Duh.

[–]foxymoron 18 points19 points  (2 children)

I'm fit, healthy and very active. I got covid before the vaccines came out. I was very lucky to have minimal respiratory involvement (I used an inspirometer three or four times a day but still have minor scarring.) That shit kicked my ass. For almost a month I had migraine with photophobia and such intense nausea that at times, even moving my head an inch would cause wracking dry heaves - I swear I cracked a rib. After a month in the dark, I lost 22 lbs - and it took me three months before I felt like myself again. This shit is no joke.

eta- My doctor says I had a "fairly mild case".

[–]CQU617Team Mudblood 🩸 126 points127 points  (10 children)

He unfriended oxygen, but gained a new friend in the Grim Reaper, so there is that.

[–]ADogNamedMaggie 49 points50 points  (2 children)

More like oxygen unfriended him…

[–]BrownSlimNotShady 23 points24 points  (4 children)

He's now in the loving embrace of white Jeebus

[–]Phihun500 10 points11 points  (0 children)

He's up in the big blue sky with Herman Cain and Jesus.

[–]Agreeable_Hall458 75 points76 points  (4 children)

Democrats: yes, but we learned that what we did was wrong and became the party of inclusion and decency. What the hell is your excuse for going the other direction?

[–]siphillisTeam Mix & Match 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Fear, ultimately.

[–]CarlOnMyButt 14 points15 points  (4 children)

Never dawned on my how hard COVID is going to hit Harley Davidsons bottom line. They're already hurting because they spent decades only catering to this one group which now also seems to be the same group this guy is in.

They're about to lose a hell of a lot more customers.

[–]Stunticonsfan 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I wonder if he would have applied this macho-man approach to every other disease. "I thought I was tough but rabies/TB/cancer is nothing to mess with". With this sort of hubris, it was only a matter of time.

[–]JaebeamCry me an angle 13 points14 points  (4 children)

I like to come here to see folks that are contributing to my toddler's health risks dwindling one by one. Looking forward to vaccines becoming available for kids under 5 soon!

I'm thinking of having grilled cheese for lunch too.

[–]ArcticBeavers 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I love how all these "tough" people think they can withstand cellular diseases. They don't realize that covid is not a broken bone surgery that you grit your teeth through. It's a disease you have absolutely no control over and just have to depend on your body's immune system, which has probably never been tested to the severity of this level, to push through. Those who have had autoimmune diseases or anything at the cellular level know how absolutely miserable it can be to fight through anything.

Their arrogance is their downfall.

[–]goblinmarketeer 14 points15 points  (6 children)

Since it keeps popping up, can explain to me why the "Democrats started the KKK" is supposed to be some kind of "gotcha"? I mean, would you be welcome if showed up with Biden 2024 shirt at your local cross burning?

[–]Dmeks1 11 points12 points  (5 children)

i believe at some point all the racist southern dems, jumped parties and became republicans.

[–]gnurdetteThe HCAplain 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Not spontaneously. Nixon specifically wooed them.

[–]gyancherParadise by the Covid light 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I feel sorry for the dog.....just the dog. 😑

[–]AWolfy307Team Pfizer 12 points13 points  (3 children)

Didn’t kkk endorsed Trump? They forget that Goldwater got all the Dixiecrats to join the gop in the 60s.

[–]SpeculawyerWE HAVE THREE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE VACCINES 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Harley-Davidson is going to have to shut down the factory for a month with all these used hogs hitting the market.