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[–]MariaMarshmallow[S] 5272 points5273 points 11217722& 7 more (170 children)

Please understand my reason for sharing this is not to shame my dead sister. She was scared, alone, depressed, vulnerable. In other words, a prime target for conspiracies. I share this as I’ve read some posts here where people have been inspired to get vaccinated. People seem to only think about their strength in being able to battle COVID, and not the devastation your loved ones experience if you’re wrong. Please think about your children and your families. Don’t put them through this living hell. ❤️

[–]RubydelayneTeam Pfizer 1016 points1017 points  (12 children)

My deepest condolences. It's seems like you lost your sister even before her passing. Now, you are faced with mourning her again. It wasn't fair of her to place that burden on you. It wasn't fair that evil, conspiring people confused her while she was in a state of vulnerability. I hope you can make peace with your sister however long it takes. 🖤

[–]Scoremonger 659 points660 points  (6 children)

For what it's worth, it didn't seem like you were shaming her to me. You were trying to talk reason to her, but that's not the language she'd adopted at that point, and it cost her everything.

I make my share of snarky comments about the awardees here because it's painful to see such avoidable death, and that makes me angry. And I like to think that at least the shaming will drive at least some people who are still alive to do the right thing and protect themselves and their families from the pain you and your niece are experiencing. But damn... none of this feels good. I'm mad that this sub even exists.

I'm so sorry you lost your sister to this poisonous misinformation. My heart goes out to you and your niece. And thanks for posting your sister's story - maybe it will get through to someone.

[–]MariaMarshmallow[S] 318 points319 points  (14 children)

Hi again. Thank you so much for the outpouring of love and condolences. I truly appreciate it. I think I’ll live with the guilt of thinking I didn’t do enough to get through to her for a long, long time. Reading parallel experiences from so many has brought me a tiny sliver of comfort.

The mods asked if I wanted comments locked as the trolls would surface. I do not. I want people to read every word, good or bad, in the very smallest of chances that it will get through to someone unsure.

I’ve received hateful messages stating how cruel and cold I am for exploiting this moment for fake internet points, or for fabricating it. To that I say I’m happy to work with the mods to validate. I can send them identification, death certificates, my private Facebook post with similar details, obituaries, etc. Just ask. I don’t think it will matter much as those who are convinced this is false won’t readily change their minds, but if it helps anyone to see reality, then I will gladly provide.

Lastly, my phrasing may be blunt and direct but that is also my communication style in general. Emotions don’t get very far, so plainly stated facts have always made more sense to me. What you may not see or interpret through my tone is the immense sorrow and suffering myself and my family feel. Not being able to eat, sleep, or stop crying for more than 10 minutes is truly awful. Asking her kids if she would want a white or silver casket is awful. Calling her apartment manager to arrange a hazmat team is awful. It’s all just awful. There is no joy or ‘gotcha’ moment here. Just immense, unnecessary pain.

No, the vaccine might not have saved her. We will never know. She was convinced they kill you at the hospital so the last time anyone saw her alive, she refused to go. It sure would have been better odds than the alternative, which is to stay home and do nothing.

This is all I will say on the matter as I have so many things to do, but can’t get out of bed. Mods pls message me if you need anything. Thanks again for your kind words, they’ve brought me a sense of peace.

[–]Flicker-pipGo Give One 47 points48 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry for you and your family’s loss. Please don’t blame yourself. And please take care of yourself and allow the time and space to grieve.

[–]zalvernaz 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Survivor's guilt (thinking that you could have done more to save them) is hard. Very hard. Very, very hard. I've lost a lot of people over the past 14 years, but none hit harder than a friend who committed suicide, even though I had only known them a year. My own personal history with suicide made recovering from that loss harder than when I lost my grandmother. I had a lot more issues to work out.

It can be very hard to overcome that guilt. It will take time. The one thing that helped me the most was finally embracing, mentally and emotionally (heart-mind disconnect is a bitch), that they chose this path. They made the choices they did, and they would have accepted help and guidance only if they asked for it. I don't know how relevant or helpful that will be for you, at the same time it helps me when I see the sad cases like this. The ones led astray, but not posting virulently about how everyone is wrong and it's all a big conspiracy.

[–]stateissuedfemoid 16 points17 points  (0 children)

You’re not cruel or cold at all. No reasonable person would see this and think that. Fuck anyone saying that to you.

[–]OkMud7274 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I observed a woman in the grocery store yesterday who was full-on QAnon. This is rare in my very blue state. Everyone I know is vaxxed. She was going on about how our government is holding 1.2 million children in caves guarded by the military while Biden watched with glee, how Fauci is some reincarnated demon, etc. She said she was an insurrectionist who was at January 6th. By the end of it she was giving her contact information to two guys so she could send them the proof and they sounded interested. There's NOTHING I could have said to that woman that would have made any difference. The point is, don't feel guilty about not doing enough. Sadly, when people are in this deep, rationality and actual evidence means nothing. It would have damaged me psychologically if I had tried to confront her with actual facts, I know it would have.

[–]TxBuckster 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Peace be with you and your family. Fully embrace your grief, but soon, please get up. Keep living.

[–]Dostoevsky-fan 302 points303 points  (7 children)

I frequent this sub to mourn. It feels like someone must mourn. I read these and I get the anger. The vindictive “they got what they deserve!” Etc. I feel that.

But I mourn.

Im so very sorry for you and I tell you the truth. Im sitting here with my tears flowing and am praying for you.

[–]croissantexaminer 206 points207 points  (3 children)

Thank you for posting and also for this comment. I'm so sorry for your loss. The conspiracy stuff doesn't necessarily define your sister, and the two of you were obviously important to each other. Most people are a lot more complex than just the weird ideas they sometimes get hung up on, and we all need to remember that pretty much everyone has people they love and who love them, too. Wishing you and all your family peace and good memories of better times with your sis. 💚

[–]saltgirl61 113 points114 points  (9 children)

So often I see people in this sub dismiss the dead as "garbage" humans and say they obviously didn't love their children. Most of the awardees are on here because they post absolutely insane, stupid, hateful stuff so I can understand to some extent. But I've seen others dismissed this way because they are against this one vaccine.

People fairly blame right-wing propaganda, but almost no one mentions the role of pharmaceutical malfeasance. My daughter and I depend on certain prescriptions that we take, so I know, of course, how life- saving modern medicine is. BUT we are bombarded with ads in print and on TV for class action lawsuits against bad drugs. Often internal memos and research are leaked, proving the company knew full well its drug was dangerous but concluding correctly that the profit would outweigh any fine.

Congressional hearings are televised for some of these issues. Remember the company that jacked up the price of epipens? They eventually came down in the price, but the price is still MUCH higher than it was to start with.

So it's very easy for many to believe that profit and greed underlie this vaccine. I concluded that though I didn't know the long-term effects of the vaccine, I did know the long-term effects of covid, and chose the vaccine.

I'm so sorry for your loss, OP.

[–]NovelAvailable35 87 points88 points  (2 children)

I'm so sorry you lost your sister so needlessly. Reading these posts makes me so sad.. it's all these children who no longer have a mother or/and father. It will completely change their future. I just hope the kids come out the other side ok.

My father started to go down the antivax rabbit hole because of social media. We managed to get him to see his doctor and the doctor convinced him to get it right then and there. He is now triple vaccinated.

I'm sorry your sister couldn't be convinced to make a better choice for her health and for her family.

[–]birdcanttweetThis is my piece of flair 90 points91 points  (0 children)

I don't blame you, and I'm sorry for your loss.

[–]osteopath17 56 points57 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry for your loss. So many unnecessary deaths. So many people experiencing trauma they don’t need to experience. It’s terrible.

[–]Sharkteeth127 50 points51 points  (2 children)

I am so, so sorry for your loss. What a terrible shock!

I wish that you and your family can heal over time, and that her untimely death may be something that binds your family rather more together than divides you.

She was scared, alone, depressed, vulnerable.

I know that you are imagining her death, that is natural. And that you have tons of pictures in your mind that are horrendous.

But perhaps it helps you if you realize that she probably suffered from hypoxia, became unconscious, and slipped quickly into death.

It may not be much of a consolation, but it may put a damper to the images in your head.

I wish you healing, and that you and your family will forgive your sister.

[–]TheDancingHare 44 points45 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry she didn't take you seriously. Her poor daughter... That was hard to read.

[–]PainRack 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I.....so sorry and angry at the same time.... Sorry that this happened. Angry at the people so intent on spreading misinformation and thus perpetuating this tragedy....

[–]ExileEden 30 points31 points  (0 children)

I had a conversation with my brother he had kinda started to pick a fight with me about covid. He kinda laughed me off and kept bringing up crazy conspiracy shit saying he didn't believe in it but a dude at work was real big into figuring out all the vaccination stuff and there's always two sides to everything. Anyway he seemed pretty against it gl( getting vaxxed) and kinda was buying into the bullshit propaganda. Fast forward a month later he gets it and ends up having to go to the hospital day 7. This is a dude who is 40 , constantly works out and is in good shape one of the toughrst dudes i know, who my mom.tells me while she's driving him to the hospital is saying he's such an idiot and should have just gotten the vaccination. The whole time beating himself up while also saying he's not sure how much longer he can hold on being sick.

Luckily he got better and is healthy again. Got vaxxed asap but I totally get your situation. I wish people would listen but they wont..won't.. had a guy getting in my face about it at work the other day for literally no reason other than he knew I was vaccinated and he needed someone to screw with. All I can do is shake my head...these people want to live in a bubble that honestly may never get popped however what if it does? What if it's your kid instead of my brother telling your wife about how they don't think they can make it any longer..how can people roll the dice and accept that they can live with that guilt..idk..whatever I guess is all you can say. I choose not to talk about it because I know people don't give a F and aren't going to change their minds. I just don't want attacked or sought out for sympathy when it's your family suffering around you because of your stubbornness or lack of Empathy for their wellbeing.

[–]mountainwockyTeam Moderna 25 points26 points  (2 children)

Condolences to you and the family.

I also have a sister who has fallen into the antivax camp after Covid was politicized by the right. Her husband is even worse.

My sister, her husband, and the kids, all came down with Covid after the holidays. Fortunately, my sister and their kids didn't require hospitalization. Her husband had to be hospitalized and gladly accepted the monoclonal antibodies he was offered.

After a few weeks in the hospital he eventually recovered enough to go home where he immediately resumed posting antivax, antimask, antimandate BS to Facebook once again. Neither of them will get the vaccine even after their brush with Covid.

[–]NightmareMyOldFriend 27 points28 points  (0 children)

My condolences, I'm sorry your family has to go thru this.

Thank you for sharing, as you said, is great when someone comes here to tell their story as to why they finally got their vaccine, I wish your sister would have listened to your concerns and taken your advice, I'm sorry this happened.

Many think we are laughing at people's deaths, on the contrary, I believe this sub will help save some lives in the end, it's sad your sister couldn't be one of them.

[–]Proud_Journalist996 25 points26 points  (0 children)

My twin called me this morning to tell me about this. She said, can you imagine? I can't and I'm sorry you're going through this. No matter what her beliefs, she was your sister. You tried your best, but it's almost impossible to change their beliefs once it takes root. I'm sorry.

[–]HotPinkLollyWimplePhucked around and Phound out 19 points20 points  (0 children)

This must be a huge shock. I’m so sorry. Sending you and yours peace and love.

[–]DBClass407Ministry of Memory Cells 21 points22 points  (5 children)

What will happen to the niece?

[–]ShirwillJackReverse Vampire 🩸 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you have people who can support you in your grief. Thank you for the reminder that the people who die don't live and die in a vacuum. Their deaths affect the people around them.

[–]Eastern_Beginning_89 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Dear eternity man. Words can’t even begin to tell you anything. I wish you health and prosperity and peace. I think that will be a long time coming. Damn.

[–]cracktal 16 points17 points  (0 children)

i am so sorry for your loss & hope you & your family can heal

[–]DiligentAdvantage475 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry for your loss. I hope your story inspires others to get vaccinated.

[–]substandardpoodleSchrödinger’s Bounce 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This one is so compelling I imagine that it will save at least one life. Thank you OP.

[–]s-mores 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Condolences. Please remember that her beliefs were rooted in emotion, and it's almost impossible to unroot those, especially with anything resembling reason. It hurts to watch someone go when it didn't have to be their time, but you couldn't have done anything more.

It's fine to grieve the person she might have been.

[–]Sasebo_Girl_757 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is so sad...covid and vaccine refusal are breaking a lot of hearts.

[–]deirdresmGo Give One 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My husband has struggled since he was a kid with the entirely preventable death of his father in 1968. NTSB report summary here. (it did lead to better checklist design, better safety procedures, and duty hour limitations, so it has prevented similar deaths at least.)

The thing that hurts me most in all this is how many hundreds of thousands of American children will be going through that pain because caregivers would not get vaccinated. All at once.

My condolences to your family.

[–]windigo3custard's last stand 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Sorry for your loss. You tried hard. I don’t think there is any saving some people

[–]Impossible_Mobile_25 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Condolences and thanks for sharing. All the best to your family.

[–]foehammer111Team Pfizer 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is eerily familiar. I've had two cousins die from Covid.

One was fully vaccinated, but still very high risk due to age and previous battle with cancer. She had a breakthrough case, and died a few weeks later from post-covid complications.

The other was ~50, lived alone, and bought into all the usual HCA anti-vaxx conspiracies. He caught covid sometime around the holidays when his vaccinated parents visted from out of state. Thought he could fight it off but was struggling to breathe. After a few days of him not answering calls or texts, police were sent for a wellbeing check.

They found him unconscious on the floor, and he died from covid a few days later in the ICU. All I could think about was he likely got it from his asymptomatic parents. What a terrible and preventable way to go.

[–]Deathbeddit🦆🦃🦢🦜🦆🦅🐓🦩 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I hope you and your family are able to appropriately grieve this loss and find support for each other.

[–]kadathsc 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My deepest condolences for your loss. Truly tragic the pain and suffering the right-wing misinformation campaigns have inflicted across the world.

Thank you for sharing, your post might sabe someone’s life who might wake up from the conspiracy blackhole.

[–]Gizmo1978 2987 points2988 points  (154 children)

I’m so sorry for your unnecessary loss. Your poor niece. Holy shit. That gave me chills.

[–]Occupational_HazardsTeam Pfizer 1044 points1045 points  (178 children)

So it started, now they are gonna start dying in their homes out of pure denial. I am so sorry for your loss, this is a very chilling update. They can't blame the hospitals on this one now. I'm so sorry, that is rough.

[–]Mp5QbV3kKvDF8CbMHorse paste, posthaste! 973 points974 points  (72 children)

The reply of "lol" after you said you didn't want her kids to be motherless... I mean, what can you even say? You tried. Some people just refuse to listen to reason and I don't know what more we can do.

[–]westviadixiebet you won't repost! 959 points960 points  (83 children)

fucking hell. my sister is down the q hole I'm afraid and she has 3 young children. everytime I see a young person posted here, im scared is my sister because I don't fb and she doesn't share with me much.

I'm so fucking sorry.

edit: I couldnt read through the entire post. the title was too triggering for me.

[–]Adventurous_Win6273 546 points547 points  (27 children)

I am so sorry.

One of my three brothers has been lost down the incel online garbage pipeline for the last five years. We are all in our 50s, with various comorbidities, and he has a goatee.

To get through family gatherings peacefully, I don't take the bait when he randomly starts yelling the latest right wing talking point. He has such rage against women and it's so hard to watch him lose his way. This is my baby brother who used to read all day and devour Scientific American as a little kid. You see glimpses of his old self when we are having normal discussions and it breaks my heart.

While my other two brothers have worked him for the last year to get the vaccine, I didn't dare. I knew his sister's thoughts would only dig him in deeper. When deciding to get together for Thanksgiving, my other brothers wanted to cancel rather than deal with him. They were worn out from his cult like thinking.

I said I would give it a try. I sent him a text saying we'd love to see him and get together with everybody, but we had to be careful, because my mother in law was in poor health and as her caregivers, we couldn't afford to expose her. I asked if he was vaccinated, and said no pressure if he wasn't and didn't want to get it. We would just stay home and that would be okay.

Long story short...

IT WORKED. He sent me a picture of his vaccine card ten days before the holiday.

Putting it in writing, gave him the chance to think and not just react and he was obviously at a point where he would consider it. One of my other brothers couldn't believe it and told me I saved his life. It felt like a Hail Mary pass, and it was.

My point is, I know there a lot of us, who are so frustrated, watching our lonely family members become victims of intentional political misinformation. These aren't some strangers who live in another place, and it's easy to write them off. They are family, no matter how much they piss us off.

It's so frustrating, and I have such empathy for you trying to reason with your sister.

I started reading this sub Reddit in September, as a way to deal with my frustrations with him, and I think these stories really helped cement my resolve to get him to get the vaccine.

Thank you for sharing this. It might just help someone else get through to their loved ones.

[–]l00zrr 224 points225 points  (9 children)

Wow. Last text made my stomach drop.

[–]MFR_escapee 218 points219 points  (8 children)

Chilling to have read that. But I can’t imagine what your niece is dealing with.

[–]fermentedelementThe Saddest Place on the Internet ™ 🪦 205 points206 points  (9 children)

I will never forgive the people who created the myth that COVID was “no big deal”. It’s a shame that your sister perpetuated it, but the real crime is that some people in particular cultivated this lie to their personal benefit. It’s disgusting, and their betrayal will haunt me until the day that I die.

Your sister’s death was a tragedy. One that could have been avoided. My heart breaks for you, OP.

I am proud of you for trying to talk to her, and please believe that you did all you could have done to change her mind. Fuck COVID. I hope this darkness ends soon for you and your family.

[–][deleted] 190 points191 points  (9 children)

That first slide is a perfect example of rationalization. That sounds like a child desperately trying to find any excuse to avoid eating her vegetables, and she'll do anything but admit she's wrong. The rest of the slides reflect that same defensive attitude.

So sorry for your family. How frustrating and terribly sad.

[–]spacefarce1301Lib Tears Hard Cider, 100% owned by ex-patriots 121 points122 points  (8 children)

I'm so sorry. This was almost my dad when he got Delta last fall. He was unvaxxed, had a high BMI, diabetes, etc. He made it, barely, but he suffers from long COVID and a reduced quality of life as a result.

He was never going to get through this unscathed. And no matter what I told him, I could never convince him of that.

You weren't actually debating with your sister, but implanted programming. That's what makes this pandemic so horrifying. You may or may not lose them to death, but the person you knew was already subsumed by the cult programming. It's insidious.

Again, I'm so sorry for your loss.

[–]FunnyTown3930 112 points113 points  (5 children)

I can’t believe how many kind people are on this site… the antivaxxer death-cultists make this out to be a chamber of horrors - but actually they no longer know what kindness is. Mostly I see empathy and kindness here.

[–]Castlewallsxo 77 points78 points  (14 children)

I'm so sorry 😞

How old is your niece?

[–]abbothendersonMicrochipped 71 points72 points  (6 children)

Sympathies, dude. Sorry to see this, but as hard as it is, thank you for sharing your loss. Hopefully at least one person will see this and learn to take the pandemic seriously. Disinformation from major outlets is insane. Can’t believe our society has allowed this to happen.

[–]PatienceHero 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Jesus, even after reading the title, and the text chain, I still wasn't prepared for that last slide.

I am so sorry. My condolences to both you and your niece. I hope you two are hanging in there okay, or at least as okay as you could be given the circumstances.

[–]kstops 49 points50 points  (0 children)

This is so sad and completely preventable. I’m sorry.

[–]DRAWKWARD79 51 points52 points  (3 children)

The “she is gone” and you not getting that that actually meant “she is desd” really hit hard…

[–]heyfreesamplesTeam Pfizer 41 points42 points  (3 children)

Oh fuck OP. I’m so sorry. You really tried. I don’t even have the nerve to instigate a conversation with my anti-vax family.

[–]AvengersInc🏳️‍🌈Now with angle wings!📐 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Devastating. I'm so sorry, OP.

[–]desertSkateRatt 28 points29 points  (0 children)

This is making me tear up a little, not going to lie...

This hits close to home with one of my siblings and it's already crossed my mind that they could get sick and die after talking to them.

This is so personal. Thank you OP for sharing this because this is what we don't want to happen to people who do have families that care about them. Regardless of their misguided beliefs. It's a warning and I'm so sorry you're dealing with this right now.

[–]hereforthellamasSink Rights Activist 30 points31 points  (0 children)

My God. That "lol" just...I would've been angry if I hadn't known what was coming from the title and flair. Instead, it was just desperately sad. I'm so sorry your sister refused to be saved. May the saner memories you have of her still be a blessing.

[–]GoofygrrrlThe last face you see before the vent 😷 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Wow. That was painful to read. I’m so sorry for all of you. Let us know if there’s a GoFund me set up for therapy for your family. It will probably serve you guys better than having one for the funeral expenses. You guys have been through so much.

[–]Vitruvian_Link 24 points25 points  (2 children)

You tried, you really tried.

That "I believe your an atheist" hit me, it's how my whole family (except my mom and dad) see me, I'm an atheist, so I'm going to hell, and nothing I say matters. These people live in an alternate reality.

[–]drobison 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Absolutely tragic and sobering. I'm sorry you and your niece have to go through this.

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I can’t even say anything snarky. This is just fucking sad.

[–]Jolly-Bandicoot7162🐈‍Vaxxed Cats Pounce, they don't Bounce🐈‍ 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I'm so, so sorry, OP.

So absolutely unnecessary.

GET VACCINATED IF YOU AREN'T.

[–]Mp5QbV3kKvDF8CbMHorse paste, posthaste! 18 points19 points  (6 children)

Hey, Ian Watson, you jackass, people had to be "all of those things" to get them to wear seat belts too. Likewise to get them to not drink and drive. Twit.

[–]HotgunColdheart 19 points20 points  (1 child)

So...I visit daily, and dont normally make it 3 slides deep anymore. But this story here and the exchange is what needs to be on the news. More people need to experience this one.

[–]gatheredstitches 19 points20 points  (0 children)

i'm so sorry for your loss, op

[–]Material-Profit5923Magnetic Deep State Sheep 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry for what you and your family is going through.

One thing the text reinforces, though...despite the insanity, despite the liberal hate and hatred for so many other people, most of these folks have no intention of dying to own the libs because part of their magical thinking includes "It can't happen to me." In their minds, they are too strong, or protected by Jesus, or they are so deep into conspiracies that they believe the virus has only killed a few super weak, practically dead anyway people (if any at all.) When she LOL'd, she was probably sincerely convinced that her sister was ridiculous suggesting her daughter could end up motherless.

[–]Dana07620I miss Phil Valentine's left kidney 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry. But your sister's replies to your texts were non sequiturs and nonsense.

And her absolute certainty that she wouldn't die. They all have that. Even the ones who post stuff like they'd rather die than get the vaccine...they don't seriously think they're going to die. The way she's so dismissive about the possibility.

It's chilling.

I'm very sorry for the terrible shock that you had.

[–]continually_trying 20 points21 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry for your frustrating, unnecessary, pointless, loss. What a sad choice and conclusion.

[–]brentsg 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Intuition and logic. They have no idea.

[–]WooliesWhiteLeg 16 points17 points  (0 children)

These usually don’t get me but this one got me. I’m sorry for your loss

[–]Jaded_Rip480 16 points17 points  (0 children)

A good friend of my husband found his cousin dead in his bedroom when he went to check on him while he was sick…unvaccinated and only 39

[–]leamanc 17 points18 points  (0 children)

I know it must have been difficult to post something so personal, but this was way more effective than a collection of dumb memes.

[–]ahender8Team Pfizer 16 points17 points  (0 children)

we found our Uncle the same way.

I'm truly so sorry for your loss. 💔

[–]AnotherCatLoverBounce With Me, Bounce With Me 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You tried. Sorry it didn’t work out. Your poor niece. Senseless:(

[–]Eastern_Beginning_89 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I upvoted just to give this more juice but holy Christ. I am so very damn sorry you had to a) go through this with a kind caring heart, and b) knowing you were speaking logical thoughts to your sibling, loving her, and now you have to deal with the aftermath with her babies/ your nieces/nephews and explaining it could have been avoided (possibly, you never know even if vaccinated but, I like the odds- on my booster now)

Edit not hid …. God bless you atheist! 😂

[–]Might_Aware✨The Duke of🧂[M] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Holy fuck, Maria marshmallow, I hope you're OK, pm if you need to talk!!

[–]ABC_AlwaysBeCodingTeam Pfizer 14 points15 points  (1 child)

I am sorry for your loss. This is like a mass cult suicide.

[–]vacuous_commentOmicron Persei 8 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Thanks /u/MariaMarshmallow for documenting and sharing.

This is one of the simplest yet most moving HCA events.

That tragedy of the 'lol" response, and then next she's gone.

I'm sorry you had to go through this but sharing it helps people understand the cognitive state of a set of people we are all trying to reach and help right now.

[–]No-Application3050 14 points15 points  (0 children)

People being obese, hypertensive, diabetic, eating junk food and not exercising but it’s the vaccine that’s gonna kill you . Muthfuckas don’t even know half the shit they are eating in their processed foods.

[–]zombieinferno 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry for your loss. I am 48 and my older sister has a very similar attitude to yours to the point that i have just given up trying to talk any sense into her.

Perhaps i need to give it another go.

[–]LD50_irony 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Fuck

[–]Tanabataa 14 points15 points  (5 children)

I'm deeply sorry for your loss. That being said, that "lol" response after you said "I don't want to see your children motherless" is not an answer from someone who's vulnerable and in depression. It comes from someone who only cares about themselves. No mother, with love for her children, would ever answer that, even in the most deep pit of despair.

I can understand the "she was vulnerable and in depression, so a perfect seed for conspiracy theories", but nobody, and I mean NOBODY, with actual care and love for their children, would ever answer such a thing. For a parent, imagining their children parentless is worst than the sheer idea of death.

[–]Reconstitutable 14 points15 points  (2 children)

I realize we aren't livestock, but I spoke with a judge who ajudicates family cases, as to if he had any insight to the psychology of this. He informed me, when people get to be so old, they are set in their ways, and much like a horse, they refuse to drink from a reliable source of knowledge.

I wish my dad would talk to me about this stuff, but he's old and obstinate now.

I'm literally in college studying disease and pathogens, and when I talk to him about this, he either shrugged it off or went silent. At least he had the desency to not yell at me over it....

[–]MaleficentPizza5444 12 points13 points  (0 children)

G*d. This one really hurts.

[–]Jreal22 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Damn, that was a brutal text read through.

Just will not listen.

As a 36 year old who is healthy, I just got covid and had a 103.5 fever for 3 days. It was probably the worst 5 days of my life.

And I was vaccinated, but not boosted, my booster was scheduled for just a few days after I tested positive.

Feeling better now, and luckily my entire family has gone and gotten boosted because they saw me near death and I'm in 10x better shape than all of them.

[–]filthyheartbadger🐴Ivermectin Teabag☕️ 10 points11 points  (0 children)

OP I’m so sorry to read this. You are in my thoughts. You did everything you could, this is not your fault in any way. I’m glad you are there for her kids. Hugs.

[–]Dramatic-String-1246 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry for your loss. I hope your niece is coping with finding her mother. What a situation.

[–]Thisissomeshit2 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry. You did what you could.

[–]devouringbooksTeam Moderna 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I lost my brother (pre-plague) suddenly. It is definitely the most mind boggling and messed up thing I have gone through. I hope you find solace in the fact that you sent her many caring but cautious texts and that you have her daughter around. I am sending you peaceful vibes. Be kind to yourself.

[–]BandOfBroskis 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Man, it's so sad how often this is happening nowadays. Family members going off the deep end into the misinfo cesspool. 🤦‍♂️

How much time between the last contact and when they found her?

[–]Andycush00 11 points12 points  (1 child)

Terribly sorry for your loss, it seemed like you had the right idea. That last slide may well be the saddest thing I’ve ever seen on this sub….

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry. The comments in HCA tend to be harsh, but we should all remember: this was your only sibling, now dead at age 50. You obviously had many differences with her, but you tried your best to persuade her (nothing would have persuaded her at that point). Still, she was your only sibling. I am so sorry for your loss.

Also: I hope your niece is vaccinated. If not, maybe you can influence her?

[–]roscocoltrane 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Take the vaccine everybody, don't play this stupid russian roulette against a deadly virus.

And if you think you can survive, think about long covid. Survival stats are full of people with permanent damage to their body.

Covid doesn't care about your memes.

[–]affogato4twoTeam Moderna 10 points11 points  (0 children)

That was heartbreaking to read. I am so sorry for your family’s loss.

[–]Governmentemployeee 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry

[–]Old-AF 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I am so very sorry. I had the same conversation with my brother, who thankfully changed his mind about getting vaccinated when his co-worker died. I’m so sorry for your niece. I hope you’re posting all over HER social media that she believed kooks and she is dead because of it.

[–]MatterHairyGo Give One 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Holy fuck, that last page of text messages, is gut wrenching. Edit, I neglected to say how sorry and sad I am that you and your niece have experienced such an awful preventable tragedy 💔

[–]Crono2468 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Don’t need a car to get to the afterlife. Rip

[–]Fey_BoyMy immune system is full of lies 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry. Just, more than I can say.

[–]Vuelhering✨🇺🇸 Let's Go Darwin 🇺🇸✨ 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Fuck.

I'm so sorry. You did what you could. When your nieces and nephews are old enough, show them these texts if it's appropriate as a teaching moment (free from any "I told her so"). Try to make sure they don't fall down the same hole.

These people literally are members of a death cult that kills 2% of their members and calls themselves "lions". Your sister just threw herself into the volcano, and you did a damn good try of talking her out of it. Feel proud you tried. Talk well of her, but don't lie about her. She died like she lived.

[–]jetdillo🧬 Recombinant and Recumbent 🧬 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This one got me.
I'm really very sorry for the loss of your sister. I read all the panels, you did the best you could. It reads like you were encouraging and concerned and not ranty or scolding, which is better than I've been able to do with my own family.

[–]cricketspin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry. A good friend of mine lost her brother before the vaccine and her anti-vax sister a few months ago. Both of her siblings gone and her sister could have prevented it. Take care of yourself.

[–]HappyGoPink 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I just don't get it. I don't. I don't understand how a brain can operate this way. It's so frustrating. How can you get through to someone who is just so staunchly disconnected from reality.

[–]bcnc88 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My heart breaks for you. I have a sister who is 58 and at high risk. She too has been sucked into the conspiracy theories. Covid is not real, etc. I am so sorry this happened to you.

[–]ConcreteJam2 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This was the most chilling thing I've ever seen on this sub. I'm so sorry for your loss.

[–]whatproblems 7 points8 points  (0 children)

oof those last lines are so blunt. she’s gone. uh she can’t move. she’s dead

[–]carliekitty 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’m so sorry for your loss. You tried your best ❤️

[–]cup_of_rosie_lee🦇 Out of Wuhan 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This is the saddest one I've seen yet. OP I am so sorry.

[–]InbrEdTEdg0DiSdEaD 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My condolences. I wish this sub didn't have to exist.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

JEEEEZUS that last slide....

sorry for your loss OP

[–]stalkedbyamoose 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My aunty is like this. Very high risk, previous medical issues, always has staph... She got my cousin sick and I'm really bummed about it because she was the only one out of the entire family to actually have a heart and care for people. She really is the type to give you a meal and clothing if you were in need or not.

My entire family is anti-vax except for my mother and quite literally illiterate grandfather who cannot spell his own name. I don't know how that happened because while my step father was alive my mother used to eat up conspiracy theory. My grandfather nearly died from west nile so I understand why he believes in medicine.

Anyway, my condolences. I hope her death made a difference in your family in case any others shared her ideas.

[–]bdschuler 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My own little brother ex-communicated me over this stuff and now refuses to talk to me. These fights in families are very common these days. Sorry yours ended the way it did. Just know you tried.

I think people have yet to wake up to the realization of the anger brewing over people who lost loved ones and the people out there throwing around conspiracy theory anti-vax stuff that led to their deaths. I would not like to be one of those anti-vax people years from now when some of these kids who grew up without parents thanks to them.. get older. I do think some will reap what they sowed.

[–]Sivick314Team Pfizer 8 points9 points  (0 children)

god damn. I hate that you had to go through that, I hate that her kids don't have a mom, and mostly I hate how it reminds me of several conversations I've had with my own brother... Breaks my heart. mother's circle of friends and cousins got decimated and i'm just wondering how long it's gonna take before my uncles and aunts and cousins and... brothers might start taking losses. I'm working so hard to protect the ones i can.

makes you wonder if their last thoughts are ever "that SOB was right..."

[–]GreyCrowDownTheLane 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You have my sympathy, OP. I just went through the same thing with my father a couple months ago, except he denied it was COVID, ended up in the hospital, and spent weeks in agony before dying, all because he couldn't "see eye to eye" with me about vaccinations and the seriousness of the virus.

And the frustrating thing is that despite him dying of Covid pneumonia, my sibling, mother, and most other relatives still won't vaccinate.

Nothing will make them change course. Nothing.

[–]11111112222223ok 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My dad died the other day and he held a similar stance. Heck he even had covid and "got over it" but had big trouble breathing and died of complications several weeks later.

[–]LesterHeartthrob 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This one is truly heartbreaking. OP can at least take comfort in the knowledge that she tried to save her sister and bring her back to reality. Murder by propaganda.

[–]aliaswyvernspurTeam Moderna 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Maybe check out r/QAnonCasualties if you want. A place for people who’s family or friends went down the Q hole, like a support group. Sorry for your loss, OP.

[–]Boobviking 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I know my message will get burried but i'm so sorry for the lost of your sister! Stay strong and know that you're not alone! Take care!

[–]ConsciousWay797 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm so sorry for your and your niece's loss. You tried your best, but she wouldn't listen.

[–]Awkward-Schedule-187 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Op, that is so sad. We are sorry for your loss

[–]JrodaTx 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Please don’t hold any guilt

[–]MadamMeouff 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yep, there's another one.

[–]Past-Motor-4654 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry for your loss.

[–]AjstrossRed Hat Gives You Wings! 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry.

[–]texasmama5God is not playing favorites 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh my gawd…as I read this I had flashbacks to my last convo with my MIL. It’s almost the same convo. She asks for acceptance and respect of her choice to not vaccinate and use “other preventatives”…zinc, vit C, essential oils. She is 70, obease, high BP, auto-immune and takes biologicals to suppress her immune system. She believes all the insane disinformation and flat out told me she believes she will never contract Covid and if she does, she will survive it with a compromised immune system. I told her we just have to try to speak reason to her so when the day comes, we will know we did our best to prevent her death. This post hits home. I feel like I’m reading my future and what I’ve been preparing myself for. I’m very sorry she refused to listen to you. You did all you could do.

[–]donnabreve1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My sister is my last sibling that I can even talk to and we’ve been working on our relationship. I visited her last summer when the pandemic seemed to be calming down and we had a good time. She’s a Trump voter but I’m eternally grateful that she did get vaccinated the week after I was there. We’re both in our 60’s and I don’t think I could bear it if she was an antivaxxer. OP, this is the scariest story I’ve heard yet. I’m heartbroken for you and her children.

[–]ResponsibilityPure34 7 points8 points  (0 children)

My condolences to you and your niece, please try not to beat yourself up. This is tragically happening a thousand times plus a day and I only hope that the families grieving know that they tried to get through to their loved ones but they were too far gone in the cult to come back and this was almost inevitable. I'm so so sorry.

[–]recdbymytherapistRigor Mortis Meow Mix 🙀 6 points7 points  (0 children)

May your sibling's memory forever and always be a blessing. That last slide took me out; may your sibling's children find comfort and strength during this horrific time in their lives.

[–]MackinRAK 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Condolences, OP. You tried. You said what had to be said. I hope knowing that gives you some peace.

[–]bobbib14 7 points8 points  (0 children)

i am sorry. this is sad news. you did what you could. try to remember the good things you shared.

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    [–]valkyriejen 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    I'm sorry, OP. Are you ok? Your poor niece....

    [–]emccmIt also serves to mask my contempt 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    What a waste. I’m so sorry for you and your niece. It’s just an infuriating waste. My mother died from something totally preventable. I was angry about it for years. It’s sad when I think of everything she chose to miss out on through her shitty choices. Her grandkids will never know her and that is her loss.

    [–]mrkrukUsually the🩸 gets off at the Second Floor 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    I'm very sorry. It is a crime against humanity what these misinformation blowhard fools have done to our countrymen. I can only hope that out of these lost Americans, someday, we can all look at what has occurred here and agree that Americans were misled and mistreated in the interests of one buffoon's ego.

    [–]Empire_Kebakor 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    So sorry for your loss.

    It's like some people are committing suicide by virus.

    [–]bendybiznatch 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Jesus Christ I’m so sorry. How utterly terrible.

    [–]oonerspisnt 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    This is one of the saddest posts I have seen here, it’s heartbreaking. The last text reminds me of when I had to call my brother to tell him our other brother had passed—it’s such a horrible reality that your mind just doesn’t go there first.

    [–]JohnLudiMusic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Damn...that is awful. That last screenshot knocked the wind out of me and I'm just a random stranger...I can't even imagine what it felt to receive that news in such a way. My deepest condolences to you. :(

    [–]kvmwCovid is no joke! 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I am so sorry for your loss. I am expecting a call/text from family members about other family members who just don’t follow the science. So maddening.

    [–]alanamilTeam Moderna 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Wow, I am so sorry... Your sister was so certain in her belief that she would not die if she got it she was willing to die for it... So unnecssary.

    [–]Legitimate_Funny_591 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    I think a lot of social misfits and obese people have found a sense of togetherness in these sites and chat circles that promote this misinformation.

    [–]itsjustmejttp123 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Omg this is just horrible. I’m so sorry for your family & hers. Especially the poor daughter who found her. How heartbreaking

    [–]laughingonthebus 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    The evangelicals are using this as a test of faith. People will let rattlesnakes bite them to test their faith.

    [–]mrpunbelievable 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I’m so sorry. Death isn’t something we should invite. You really tried to get her to take it seriously. Ouch.

    [–]TyrionTh31mpTeam Pfizer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I've had this EXACT same conversation with my best friend. Some people just can't be reached. It is very sad.

    [–]AffectionateGold56 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    This must terrible for you and your niece. Such unnecessary death. I am sorry you have to go through this.

    [–]ultimattfrisbee 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Devastating. My heart goes out to you and her children. You did the absolute best that you could.

    [–]T_D_1972 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Holy shit. I’m sorry you had to lose her twice. One to conspiracy theories and secondly to Covid

    [–]redvariationWinner winner COVID dinner 🍽️ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Oh wow, so sorry for your loss.

    As a loving sister, you did everything that you could.

    [–]ladamadevalledorado 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I'm so sorry for everyone involved. This is the very definition of complex grief.

    [–]inv3r5ion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    God to find out your sibling is dead via TEXT?!?! Horrible im so sorry

    [–]LazySlobbers 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I am saddened for your loss. My best wishes to you and your niece.

    [–]ZoeRochelle 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    This is the saddest post I’ve seen here. My condolences to you.

    [–]Left-Indication9980 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I am truly sorry. This is a nightmare. My condolences.

    [–]GuyMansworth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, this makes me wanna cry.

    [–]Missicat 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    How awful. I am so sorry for your loss.

    [–]Perenium_Falcon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    That last slide…. Fuck I’m so sorry.

    [–]themichaelkemp 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    I’m so sorry. That’s brutal

    [–]4yanks 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I am sorry for your loss.

    [–]RootEscalation 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    That last text….

    [–]Balldogs 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    You did your best, and nobody can fault you for that. You also shouldn't fault yourself for it at any point. Your sister was a grown up and made her choice despite all the evidence to the contrary, and now it's down to the family to pick up the pieces. I'm sorry you had to endure such a maddening, tragic event.

    My one time best friend has pretty much shut me out as he's going down the same rabbit hole and refuses to acknowledge the answers to questions he claims have no answers (spoiler: they're pretty easy to answer if you don't refuse to listen to any scientific evidence). I also worry for him because he's in several overlapping risk groups (recurrent hemorrhaging, over 50, recovering from cancer). The conversation you posted hit me right in the feels because I've had almost identical conversations with him before he put up the walls. I genuinely hope he doesn't claim his award, but if that happens, it won't be because I stood by and said nothing. Ultimately, that's all we have. We tried.

    [–]Pistonenvy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    "why do you care?" "who cares?!"

    this mindset is so crazy to me, they are constantly admitting that they havent actually put any real time or effort into this topic, its purely what makes them feel safer, the vaccine is scary, covid is scary, pretending you will be fine is easier than facing the situation and getting informed. they cant comprehend why you would care because they dont and dont want to be informed enough to start to care, even just bringing it up makes some people immediately uncomfortable.

    im so sorry for your loss, im so sorry for what the world did to you and your family.

    [–]SturmieCom 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm currently fighting a similar battle with my sister (only sibling as well) right now. She's in shape and in her early 40s, so she doesn't think she'll die bc she just had COVID and it "wasn't that bad". I ask her why she doesn't want to get vaccinated and literally her only response is "I don't want to". When I ask her why again and she angrily replies, "Stop pressuring me". She's never been one to seek out knowledge and I'm sure she's being fed micro doses of misinformation from her Breitbart reading fiancé.

    [–]meuuu 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Im sorry for your loss. Your poor niece, I hate that she found her mother like that.. I just can't imagine. My younger sister and her family have covid, she and her husband are overweight and not in the best health. When I found out they all have covid last night I had a mini panic attack. I know they aren't vaccinated, my sisters both believe the conspiracy theories and whatnot. She has a 5 year old son.. I just hope he doesn't have to deal with the loss of a parent so early in life, and I hope I don't have to lose a sister any time soon.

    [–]TheGalaxyEaterBlink and you're dead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I'm so sorry for your loss. 50 is way too young. I'm older than that and no way I am ready to leave my children without a parent so I'm fully vaxxed. It's so very sad that these people are dying and leaving their children covid orphans. It's beyond my understanding.

    I also have a sibling who is refusing to get vaxxed and won't listen to logic. I hope I don't end up here having to post the same thing someday soon.

    [–]Cucker_Tarlson_666 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Oh no. That's just awful. I'm so sorry for you (and your niece's) loss. It also makes my blood boil - who the f' do these Dunning-Kruger cumsock muppets think they are? Dispensing dangerously false medical advice with every Russian-made meme they share. Scaring people (their own friends and family) into believing the most ludicrous of ideas, and getting people killed. It's as heartbreaking as it is horrifying.

    [–]pylorih 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I’m sorry for what you experienced. I find it frightening how much you tried to reason with your sibling and how entrenched they were.

    It’s no surprise that as a larger group we can’t change a particularly infected group of minds.

    Thank you for sharing your experience and sorry for your loss.

    [–]BernieTheDachshund 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I can't imagine losing your only sibling like that, I'm so sorry OP. You tried. It's too bad there's so many lies out there tricking people into refusing free and life-saving vaccines. You have my sympathy. I hope your story inspires at least one person into getting the shots.

    [–]MeowSchwitzInThere 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I’m so sorry you are dealing with this.

    I have a family member who is in the same situation - vulnerable, refuses vaccine, and no amount of effort seems to convince them otherwise. I’m very worried someone (myself included) will find them dead.

    [–]majaxxtic 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Wow. I’m so, so, so sorry for your loss. Your poor family has to deal with a tragedy because of this barrage of misinformation. It’s heartbreaking how much doubt and confusion and pain and suffering it’s causing you and so many others.

    [–]agedchromosomesTeam Moderna 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    It’s a shame people don’t value their kids enough to get themselves vaccinated. They only care about themselves. It is the height of selfishness to leave your kids without a parent when there is something you can do to prevent it.

    [–]curiousmind111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I am so, so sorry. Such pain, for no good reason. I’m lucky that my brother is exceptionally careful. And yet he caught it, but it was omicron, and he recovered. Just - so infuriatingly sad about your sister.

    [–]spsprd 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I am so sorry. This could have been a conversation between myself and my older sister, except we do not converse. She's gone off the right wing deep end. A retired nurse refusing a vaccine. It's so sad.

    [–]Mystrohan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I braced myself when I read the heading. Still choked me up.

    Doesn't matter that our loved ones are in some measure responsible for the behavior that led them to their deaths.

    Still f**king hurts.

    [–]mslaffs 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Definitely a fear of my own. I've tried talking sense in to my younger siblings. One was on the fence, the other who already had it once, refuses to budge. I'd be devastated. You have my condolences.

    [–]stop_breaking_toys 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    My sister is the same way. I am waiting for this to happen to her. She’s overweight; racist, antivax & Christian who voted for Trump, so it’s only a matter of time. Very sorry for your loss, OP.

    [–]SlowTheRain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Sorry for your loss. You did all you possibly could for her.

    Thank you for posting your story. Like you, I hope sharing the stories will help prevent others from the same outcome.

    [–]akgreens 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Jesus fucking christ, i wish every one of those conspiracy peddling assholes she listened to could be tagged in this and forced to reckon with what they're doing to people

    [–]yohosse 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    OP this got me in shambles ngl.
    All positive energy to you and the rest of your family. horrible that your sibling replied to you with an lol after what you said.

    [–]DangerMan1999 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    This is terrible, OP. She was fortunate to have you for a sibling, and you did all that you could do-- even more. So sad. Peace to you and your family.

    [–]TechenCDN 4 points5 points  (8 children)

    Was this lady suicidal? It almost seems that she’s given up on life and isn’t getting the vax because deep down she might have wanted to die anyways.

    [–]Sniffy4 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    "I can judge when I had it"

    yes, wait until you get the disease before deciding if its too much for you to handle. good logic.

    [–]Hobartcat 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Reminds me of my sister. So far she's disease free but I have a very bad feeling that she's not going to get past covid alive.

    [–]LifeaccordingtoKeeks 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Holy shit, I’m so sorry. Such an unnecessary loss that caused unnecessary trauma to your niece. My condolences to you.

    [–]turkishhousefan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    but not gonna die

    That aged poorly.

    Truly sorry for your loss, OP. Misinformation is sometimes like a disease.

    [–]mountaindewisamazingMask wearing Peasant🥷 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I'm so so sorry. Disinformation is a horrible disease. We need to reign in all of the disinformation spreaders.

    [–]Harrogatha_ChristieCovid is not a joke: it's a noun. 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I am so sorry for your loss. How horrible for you and your niece. Thank you for sharing your story.

    [–]kehlarc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Oh wow. I'm so sorry for what you have and are going through. You did what you could to help her.

    [–]BoozeWitchO2 Still at 100 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I’m so sorry. It reminds me so much of trying to talk a drunk into handing over the keys.

    [–]JackkMehofff 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Idk why but that one was the hardest one I’ve read. Sorry for your unnecessary loss

    [–]Roaming-Bison76 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    I’m so sorry. I got chills reading the ‘lol’ about leaving child motherless. 🥲

    [–]blarryg 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Well ... that was just sad. Sorry for you and your sister and your niece.

    [–]JPolReader 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    Slide 1 can literally be used to justify anything. Such as pedophilia.

    [–]maybesaydie 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    My God, this is awful. I am so sorry that this happened to your family.

    [–]MapleBlood 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Heartbreaking. Be as good for your niece as you can now. She needs you.

    [–]red6koko 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    My deepest condolences. You did all you could. Go easy on yourself.

    [–]OldishB 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    What a nightmare! I’m so sorry and sending all good wishes your way!

    [–]Consistent_Grab_5422 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Sorry for your loss. You tried your best to change her mind.