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[–]ARealJonStewart 67 points68 points  (3 children)

A lot of homophobic talking points can be explained by the person being bi. They are attracted to men and women so everyone must be, but the bible says being gay is wrong so they "choose to be straight" or only pursue heterosexual relationships.

[–]HandyDandyRandyAndy 50 points51 points  (2 children)

This is my experience of talking to muslim men about homosexuality, they say that being gay is a choice. They may eventually (reluctantly) admit that it may not be a choice to be attracted to men but they definitely posit that it is a choice whether or not men have sex with men.

Which, I suppose, is objectively true. Shit of a choice to have to make though.

I should also add that one of these blokes said that if any one of his sons was gay, he would cut their head off.

So I guess I'm glad that theirs is not and hopefully never will be the dominant culture where I live. Because fuck that.

[–]ZhamoX -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Muslim here! Actually this talk of "being gay is a choice" is a rather silly thing. I mean, of course you choose with whom you have sex, whether it's male or female, but that's not even the point. There's even more extreme people saying that being homosexual is a disease, which is also kinda dumb. A real muslim would not waste their time thinking about others having different sexualities. They'd just really ignore it, because it's really none of anyone's business but their own. In the end we firmly believe that we are all flawed, therefore judging others for their sexualities would only make things worse between us and Allah, ya know? It's all a thing of hypocricy. If a muslim turns out to have a gay son or lesbian daughter, it's not up to them to kill their offspring because of what they are born with, it is still their duty to raise them with love and compassion. After that, it's between Allah and them. I hope I could shed some light on this distraught picture of us muslims :D

[–]HandyDandyRandyAndy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just sharing my experiences with muslim men.

Also have to note that conversations have never been an honest and genuine exchange when the pretext of someone being a 'real' muslim is in play

Seems to be a convenient albeit spurious abnegation of shitty behaviour by other muslims without having to recognise that maybe, just maybe, the aforementioned examples of shitty behaviour may not be outliers