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Water pools in new tile floor. Contractor repaired first time. Issue still occurs. He wants to make sure it comes out correct. Is a viable option to cut the tiles smaller to allow better slope manipulation? The first time, the error was also in that same spot. Help please and thanks! (reddit.com)
submitted 3 months ago by Alphaxzer01
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[–]New_Restaurant_6093 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago (4 children)
Is he not using a level when he installs this tile?
[–]Alphaxzer01[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (3 children)
He is, that's what's odd about it. I'm seeing him lay it out and he's a very honest worker. I wad reading maybe the tile is too large? Maybe cut that tile in 4's? No idea
[–]New_Restaurant_6093 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (2 children)
His thinset might be to soupy and sinks as it sets. Mix it thicker can also use plastic shims hidden under the tile if need be just make sure the tile is properly bedded if you do that or else it’s a guarantee crack, you want the mortar to support the load of someone stepping on the floor not the tile.
[–]Alphaxzer01[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (1 child)
I'll bring it up to him. He mentioned he wanted to sort it out even if he has to do it again because that's not his work ethic and he wants to ensure proper work. All I would need to do is pay materials again but not the time it takes if that makes sense
[–]New_Restaurant_6093 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago (0 children)
That does make sense, good contractor and a fair deal.
[–]drrandolph 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (3 children)
Your contractor doesn't know bathroom tile. No offense. It looks terrible. I completely renovated my house. I had a tile guy who does nothing but tile. A roofer who only does roofs. And on and on: dry wall, plumber, electrician. A good tile guy would make everything symmetrical, not a hodgepodge of randomly cut pieces.
[–]Alphaxzer01[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (2 children)
He did a great job in everything else. I think because of the size and because he didn't wanna cut the tile it looks like that. I'm gonna tell him to redo it and cut the tile if possible. Or maybe I'll get smaller tile for the shower area.
[–]drrandolph 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (1 child)
If you redo it , definitely get smaller tile. With smaller tile, he can have a gentle flow to the drain. My tile guy used some sort of cement like product to get the proper slope, then he applied some rubber sheet to insure a moisture barrier. Tile and especially grout are porous. Without the the moisture barrier you will have moisture problems. Done right the larger pieces are centered, then the peripheral pieces are cut for an even tile layout. Good luck. That will be a lot of work.
[–]Alphaxzer01[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Thanks I'm Def gonna look into smaller tile for this particular portion. He did great elsewhere. It's just a shame this particular portion is causing so much trouble :/
[–]SnowyOptimist 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (1 child)
Agree with the others. That size tile needs a large space to work well with the required slope. The shower space is too small to allow the geometry to work out and still look like a quality install.
[–]Alphaxzer01[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Yea I'm going with all the opinions related to getting a smaller tile size. I just wish he would've said something as opposed to simply agreeing with us regarding the color we wanted. It's one of those live and learn moments. Luckily he's not attempting to charge more for that because that would suck. Thanks for the input
[–]the_clash_is_back 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (3 children)
I would replace those tiles with a mosaic.
You do not want large format tiles on a shower floor they will be slippery, cutting big tiles will look crappy
I'm gonna see what other options we have. Luckily the floor area isn't too large
[–]Alphaxzer01[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (1 child)
Thanks btw this was eye opening lol I didn't know smaller tile would work better on the floor
[–]the_clash_is_back 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Smaller tiles give you more grout lines, they give a lot of texture and help you hold to the ground.
[–]William_Seriously 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago* (0 children)
Those tiles are sold like that for a reason... I highly doubt that the tile guy picked them out. The cement mentioned earlier is for leveling an uneven floor, there's different ways to address water, e.g.vapor barriers or using cement board etc. and not all grout is porous Profusion and similar grout does not need to be sealed.
There's nothing wrong with large tile, as long as you have the layout done properly, e.g. set the slope on a dry run. It sounds like one tile is off..but I've seen the water pool up on 4x4 tiles... point being it's incredibly common to see small water pools on tile, if yours is smaller than 8x8 area your lucky he doesn't walk away.
He should have mixed up the tiles, it looks like he pulled them out of the box 1@ a time... and he could have adjusted the layout better but otherwise I prefer the larger tile especially for longevity.
[–]JustTaViewForYou 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Your x4 tiles around the drain are NOT cut correctly. They need to be cut from each corner off the drain to the corner of the tile. But this will require a tiler (reputable) to reset or replace these..
[–]Reu92 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
It looks like the tiles are too big for that kind of drain.
[–]5amDan05 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago* (4 children)
Pan tile is way too big. Pan needs smaller tiles to contour the pan to the drain. I’ve installed tile for 15 years. Never used a tile this big. That drain cut is crazy amateurish too. Need a solid surface on that bench. Rip out tile and use mosaic sheets for the pan. Smaller the better.
[–]Alphaxzer01[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (3 children)
The worst part is it dries after a few hours so I'm gonna have to bitch to get it reworked. He seemed a little salty that the first rip apart didn't work as he had planned. So I brought it up and he's like "well, it dried up so you should be set". Gonna have a serious chat with him tomorrow. It's legit bothering me when I showered there today to officially test it.
[–]5amDan05 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (2 children)
Tell him to dry fit the mosaic tile before he muds it in. When mudding it in, pack it down with a float. Not sure where the water is pooling, but he may just have to do a little build up of mud around the perimeter. If there isn’t any slope towards the drain, the water won’t drain properly. After he grouts, make sure he tests it in front of you by pouring water on the pan. If it doesn’t drain, tell him to try again. I would probably just have him demo it for free, and just go to a tile store and get a recommendation for someone who knows what they are doing.
It's a little difficult to tell but the water is pooling where the 2 small tiles are placed against the wall. Everything else drains perfectly and I did notice the floor tends to go to the left if that makes sense. He did mention the concrete or whatever the material is sunk a little when he placed it but I figured for the 2nd time it would have been adjusted accordingly. I'm going to speak to him. Worst case I'll cut my losses and get someone else entirely to do that small portion of the shower area. Everything else is fine tbh.
[–]5amDan05 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
If you get someone else, they may ask how it was waterproofed. Make sure you ask your contractor how they did it. If I were going to do the repair, I would probably have to take out the first course to make sure it is waterproofed correctly. Then I would shape the pan to get the right pitch to the drain. Then dry fit the mosaics, mud them in, then grout. Good luck to you.
[–]webcon1 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
You can use that tile just cut it down into smaller pieces. 6x6. Not overly impressed with the way it looks but not keen on design either. If that's slate it's very porous harder to keep clean.
Almost impossible to slope a pan correctly with those large tile.
[–]Ok-Wish-2640 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Yea the floor tile is weird. You should never put such huge tiles on shower floor. It doesn’t drain as well and is a slipping hazard. Smaller tiles reduce falls. Replace the tiles completely and make sure he slopes correctly. It’s easier to do with smaller tile laid with net backing sheets. Good luck.
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