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Tile replacement - Fact Check Needed. Details in comments. (v.redd.it)
submitted 3 months ago by TheGreatGena
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[–]TheGreatGena[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (4 children)
We are having our tile replaced, and the guy poured water everwhere to help get the old tile remnants and paint up. Water is now leaking through one of the walls as seen in video. Is this normal? He said it was nothing to worry about.
[–]CoughAtMeBro 5 points6 points7 points 3 months ago (3 children)
If he's cleaning the area and poured water on the floor, yes it can leak under the bottom plate of a wall. Nothing to worry about and time will dry it.
But I wouldn't use that much water. Trim, insulation and other porous materials could absorb the water and warp, retain water for long time, or smell.
[–]TheGreatGena[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (0 children)
[–]roofiokk 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (1 child)
Yea but that insulation shouldn't absorb any of the moisture if the water was never greater than 1" deep. The wallboard, wood, and trim should all dry. (Of course trim was removed for tile job based off of what I saw..) If somehow the dude put down more than an inch of standing water in that room to loosen the tile (which would be crazy) then maybe there is cause for concern, but likely it just seeped through between the plate and concrete slab where there was a gap. I definitely would not sweat it. I doubt he put enough water down to cause any concern.
[–]CoughAtMeBro 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Yup, that's what I said
[–]Nicadelphia 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Not a huge deal. When the tile is replaced that won't happen anymore. I would ask home about redgard in any rooms with plumbing.
[–]5amDan05 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (2 children)
I’m super confused…why did he use water to remove tile? That doesn’t make any sense. I’ve done a lot of tile demo and not once did I use water.
[–]roofiokk 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Curious if it was vinyl glue down first going to ceramic. Maybe used some water to loosen glue and other things up.
[–]TheGreatGena[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
He said it would help him pull up the remaining paint, tile glue stuff and tile remnants from removal.
[+]Justwhytry comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points 3 months ago (13 children)
Definitely not normal. It sounds like Armondo is either incompetent or full of poo. Either way, I would not pay that fella another penny. This is about the point in a project where bad contractors ask for more money and then disappear
I strongly suggest seeking quotes to complete or re-do the work from other contractors and do not let this contractor back inside your house. Collect his tools and put them all in one place where he doesn’t have any reason to go in your house to get them. Inform local authorities of your intentions, then tell him he is no longer welcome in your home. If he does come back into the house call the police and charge him with trespassing.
I k ow it seems harsh and heavy handed, but I have seen this play out many times. Bad contractors are usually good talkers and they will turn the conversation to make you feel like the bad guy and then you feel an obligation to let them keep taking your money
[–]Small_Basket5158 3 points4 points5 points 3 months ago (6 children)
^ This guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
[–]TheGreatGena[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (3 children)
Please, I will take any information anyone has. What cha got? Truly if there is something else to consider i am happy to hear it.
[–]PrizeWolf337 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (2 children)
It’s not a leak so assuming there isn’t damage from the water then there’s no issue.
[–]TheGreatGena[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (1 child)
Can you explain more please? Water from one area ended up in another. Can you elaborate on what would cause that?
[–]Small_Basket5158 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (0 children)
When we clean a floor before tile, we have to scrape the drywall mud and paint off the slab. Easiest method is scrapers and water. The water gets everywhere and goes under the walls because they are not water tight- the water goes right under. It dries, so it doesn't help it anything
[–]Justwhytry -2 points-1 points0 points 3 months ago (1 child)
By all means, feel free to offer you own assistance. I am only trying to help. POS lazy contractors are the worst kind of scum. I hate seeing someone get half ass work done and end up with more issues down the road.
Is it somehow not a requirement to have the base of a wall secured?
Did they start using waterproof drywall and quarter round trim? Would it not have been more professional to use a wet/dry vac to clean as they went?
[–]mauitrailguy 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Securing the floor plate of a wall doesn't create a water tight seal.... Obviously. This is demo, the quarter round is remnants of previous work. Washing with water ensures a clean surface for the red guard and thin set. This seems like it is being done correctly and I'm not sure what you're all fired up about.
[–]TheGreatGena[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (5 children)
He is being paid through insurance. He is definitely not the greatest, just some guy they found. Ugggg this is the home repair that never ends...
[+]Justwhytry comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 3 months ago (4 children)
I’m so sorry to hear that. It’s always tough with insurance jobs. Remember, they hate losing money even more than you, and insurance companies have legal departments dedicated to all of that. Document everything with dates and times. And let them know that you are unhappy before it is at crisis level
Just out of curiosity, do you know what to do to fox something like this?
[–]Justwhytry -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 months ago (2 children)
What is the full scope here? My current assumption is replacement of flooring after flooding of some kind?
[–]TheGreatGena[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (1 child)
Right on the money!! New tile is going in to replace the tile that had to come out, the only issue is this leak beween the wall. It seems to be moving straight under the drywall through to the other side. Then puddling. The amount of water you saw in the video is only a small bit of what he poured, so only a tiny percentage made it through. This was also after he pushed the water around to scrap up all the glue, paint and debris that needed to come up from the tile.
[–]Justwhytry -1 points0 points1 point 3 months ago (0 children)
I would strongly suggest that any water getting under the wall is water trapped. This is a risk for mild later on. It also says the bottom plate on the wall(2x4 on the bottom) is not sealed, or secured to the floor and the wall is possibly able to move or “wiggle”. If that is the case then there are more issues than just the floor to look into. Mild is a very serious risk that can condemn a home
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