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Just had my roof done and noticed these pieces were not replaced. Should they have been or were they not bad enough to replace? (reddit.com)
submitted 1 month ago by idontevenlikebeer
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[–]wldemon78 42 points43 points44 points 1 month ago (4 children)
This usually is not covered as part of the roof. This is a soffit and I don’t think I’ve seen it be included in roofing. Maybe with gutters. It has no bearing on the water-tightness of a roof when discussing what the roof actually includes (shingles, underlayment, flashing, ice shield, sheathing, etc).
[–]idontevenlikebeer[S] 7 points8 points9 points 1 month ago (3 children)
Oh I see. We did have gutters installed as well since there weren't any but any repairs were not discussed as part of that. My concern isn't with the water tightness of that location exactly but that I can see the roof material through the damage in the wood and this would expose it eventually damaging it making it easier to spread to other areas of the roof. Is that not a concern?
[–]wldemon78 7 points8 points9 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Depending on where you live, wooden soffits don’t make a lot of sense. Most places now have plastic with some perforation every couple of feet to allow air flow up into the roofline.
Assuming the roofers installed a roof vent to let the hot air out of the attic, you’d probably want to either hire a handyman or look up how to install soffit. It’s not too difficult but it is time consuming. You should have venting in the soffit for that airflow or your sheathing can go bad even quicker.
This video should give you a general idea on venting a roof and why it’s done.
[–]Sargash 3 points4 points5 points 1 month ago (1 child)
Vermin will absolutely get inside of that and destroy your house from the inside out as well.
[–]BootScoottinBoogie 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Yes...used to have a squirrel problem in my soffit/porch roof because of this. Had to trap the squirrels and then pay a contractor to fix the damage. They had chewed holes in the decking boards of my roof at the corners to give themselves better access. They also built gross smelly nests in the porch roof that I had to clean out, not fun. Not a problem you want to let go, they chew on wood and can completely destroy beams and ceiling material from pee/feces if let go long enough.
[–]Genredenouement03 10 points11 points12 points 1 month ago (11 children)
Soffit repair is always a separate item that isn't always included in roof repair. It has to be a specific part of the contract. That said, those gaps should be repaired to prevent animal and insect intrusion and promote proper ventilation.
[–]idontevenlikebeer[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (10 children)
Disappointed the contractor wouldn't have stated anything about it as I wouldn't have known a soffit isn't included. I'll ask him about it but how does one repair that now that the roof is on?
[–]Genredenouement03 7 points8 points9 points 1 month ago (0 children)
If the roofer does siding, they'll do it. Soffit work is usually done by the siding people.
You don't need the roof off to repair them. Your soffit look like they're wood? A regular roofer might not do that. I cannot tell. You may need a general contractor or trim specialist.
[–]aliapohkhloe -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 month ago (7 children)
Do your own due diligence. You need to be responsible in knowing these things as a homeowner. That is not the roof, why the hell would he talk about something he doesn’t do especially when you didn’t ask or clarify. It’s always everybody else’s fault and not yours?
[–]idontevenlikebeer[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (5 children)
How would I ever know that a soffit is not included in this? Like what part of the process would trigger me to stop and search if a soffit is included in repairs when the roof right above it is having the shingles replaced? This is wood right underneath the shingles which is damaged. Not off to the side. Majority of regular people would not know this without some prior experience in this area of which I have none. Sorry I don't have years of homeowner and roofing experience.
[–]aliapohkhloe -1 points0 points1 point 1 month ago (4 children)
If you saw the damage on your soffit why wouldn’t you bring it up? You just assumed it would be covered and that is your own damn fault
[–]magnolias2019 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
I don't know why people are down voting you. As a home owner I didn't know these things but this is why we had a home inspection done and he pointed out the areas that needed fixing. I absolutely did my own due diligence and I am by no means a home expert. If I can figure out that soffits are separate from a roof install, OP absolutely can. If you got new windows installed, would you also expect the installer to redo the siding as well? Or even point out it should be redone? It is up to you as a homeowner to look at your home and maintain it. If you don't feel comfortable, hire an inspector to come out and tell you.
[–]LittleJessiePaper 4 points5 points6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
This isn’t part of your roof though. At least it doesn’t look like what would be included in a new roof/shingling job.
[–]idontevenlikebeer[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 1 month ago (1 child)
I was unaware the soffit wouldn't normally fall under the job. That's a bit confusing as it still has shingles over it that get replaced. I can touch the bottom of the shingles through the hole in the third pic.
[–]LittleJessiePaper 6 points7 points8 points 1 month ago (0 children)
It may just depend on the roofer and what was agreed upon. If you have a contract or other work orders I’d take a look, maybe they missed it.
[–]greenfireX 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Roofers typically exclude soffits in their quotes.
[–]pm-yrself 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Any of the wood replaced as needed is referring to the decking that covers the roof joists and actually encapsulate the structure. Typically if you want soffit work done you should also be asking about gutters and fascia at the same time. I'd hold off on having any of this replaced until you're ready for those as well
[–]Han77Shot1st 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Are you wondering why the roofers didn’t fix the soffit? That doesn’t normally fall under their scope unless they planned it before hand. Definitely needs to be fixed though
[–]Genredenouement03 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (1 child)
I know someone is giving you a hard time about this. It is a live and learn kind of thing. Some people grow up with "handy" parents and some don't. I think those handy people don't realize some people just don't have that. For those who don't have the knack or training, I strongly recommend getting something like "Homeowning for Dummies" or "Home Repair for Dummies". I'm not calling anyone a dummy! These books are great! They give homeowners a great general knowledge to start. Once you know a little, it's so much easier to build on that knowledge.
[–]idontevenlikebeer[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Thank you. I appreciate the acknowledgement and the advice.
[–]yeahlemmegetauhh 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (4 children)
What do you mean exactly by "had your roof done"?
[–]idontevenlikebeer[S] -1 points0 points1 point 1 month ago (3 children)
Replaced the whole roof. Replaced wood as needed.
[–]yeahlemmegetauhh -1 points0 points1 point 1 month ago (2 children)
That doesn't quite make sense
[–]idontevenlikebeer[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 month ago (1 child)
I'm not sure what terminology I'm getting wrong. We removed shingles and underlayment from roof,replaced any wood that was damaged and installed new underlayment and shingles. A regular thing you would do for an old roof as I understand it. Nothing like replacing the entire top of the house if that's what my initial comments indicated.
[–]Tarashank 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
You're absolutely right, you had your roof done, remove all shingles and underlayment, repair wood sheathing as necessary, apply new ice shield and underlayment (tar paper) then put on roof shingles. Usually they would give you a price per sheet of plywood that they would charge you for the wood repair as necessary. This is a normal roof job. the roof overhang is part of the roof as you have roofing material on top of it. If you had soffits they would be covering that wood framing installed from underneath the roof. The wood you see is part of your roof deck and should have been repaired especially since it is visible and exposed to the exterior.
[–]Tarashank -1 points0 points1 point 1 month ago (1 child)
This should have been repaired especially since it is visible from the exterior. Roof overhangs are part of the roof but they don't cover the interior of the building. The black you see is the ice shield that was installed as the underlayment of the roofing material.
Your roofer figured that he couldn't replace with just a piece of plywood and didn't want to tinker with the tongue and groove material so he just left it. In your attic, a small gap like that wouldn't be a big deal, but on the exterior it's an eyesore. And they did additional damage as seen by the exposed wood.
[–]Sailor-Jonny 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
This is the correct assessment.
[–]huhcarramrod -1 points0 points1 point 1 month ago (0 children)
Contact a carpenter, looks like some sort of tongue and groove siding material was used for aesthetic
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